[Cullion]

I think the feeling is mutual.

Does anybody remember the name of that Henry Rollins spoken word track where he fantasizes about a female cop ?

He tells her badge sits nice on her titties, then he taunts her to shoot him, then he tells her he's going to get off in her ass and drive off in her car ?

I really want to find a youtube of that. I think it's from the late 80s or early 90s.

[TheLordHumungus]

Originally Posted by A

And that he romanticizes a criminal organization with... like...pretty strict heirarchical organization. After implicitly being Mr. Laid-back Longhair go-with-the-flow guy.

I don't remember claiming I was a hippy or laid back. I do have long hair, but it isn't a statement of my beliefs, its just a physical attribute. Doe the fact that I'm tall or wear contacts suggest something about my personality, or is it just hair length?

I also don't remember romanticising any criminal organisations. I do remember saying that state violence was no more acceptable than that perpetrated by organized crime, and that a cop was no better than your average street thug. But you must remember that being put at or near the same level as the police is hardly being romanticised.

[TheLordHumungus]

Originally Posted by Cullion

I think the feeling is mutual.

No doubt. His badge does sit awfully nice upon his titties.

[Cullion]

The track's called 'Can you speak this?' and it was on the 'Drive by shooting' EP that came out in 1987, but I haven't found a free copy anywhere on the interwebs yet.

[socratic]

Originally Posted by TheLordHumungus

What about cases like Somalia where there is a government, it's just that nobdy pays attention to it or recognizes it in any way?

Somalia fits the trope perfectly. The reason Somalia's government may be ignored is because of the WARLORDS WITH ARMIES.

I don't really consider Mexico a fail(ing/ed) state. We (the U.S. I realize you and I are from different countries) can't do a damn thing to enforce our laws keeping corporations from raping our economy, but few believe we are a failed state despite our impotence in that regard.

Your chief of police won't get assassinated by his own men if he tried to have the head of Goldman & Sachs arrested, for example. This has happened already in Mexico.

[TheLordHumungus]

Originally Posted by socratic

Somalia fits the trope perfectly. The reason Somalia's government may be ignored is because of the WARLORDS WITH ARMIES.

I'd be more inclined to believe that the warlords are able to exist because there's no government anybody recognizes aside from them.

[/quote=socratic]Your chief of police won't get assassinated by his own men if he tried to have the head of Goldman & Sachs arrested, for example. This has happened already in Mexico.[/quote]

We have had high level officials killed by particularly vicious gangs in this country. But if a police chief goes after a particularly powerful individual, he probably won't be assassinated. He will soon be looking for another job, tho.

[socratic]

Originally Posted by TheLordHumungus

I'd be more inclined to believe that the warlords are able to exist because there's no government anybody recognizes aside from them.

That's because the warlords have big fucking armies and told the government "go fuck yourself" in the language of AK-47s.

We have had high level officials killed by particularly vicious gangs in this country. But if a police chief goes after a particularly powerful individual, he probably won't be assassinated. He will soon be looking for another job, tho.

They literally cannot control the drug cartels in mexico at all. There was a time when they were almost begging the US to end the war on drugs.

[HappyOldGuy]

This isn't what you asked for Cullion, but I'd like to think this is when kein decided his lifes work.


Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCPn0l220MY