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    .......doesnt necessarily equate to most people have benefited. Some people in certain groups may have benefited significantly more than others to such an extent that your averages could easily be very skewed.

    And this....

    nobody has lost out
    ...is not justified by your "statistical aggregates".

    Jeez........ please dont go into machine learning you might end up creating Doofa.
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    This is random gibberish. Nobody lost out, people in all groups benefitted. You don't even have a credible mechanism to explain why two different people earning minimum wage would experience significantly different effects from the tax cut. Quite absurd.

    I don't think you're even on the first rung of being qualified to talk to me about machine learning, Max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    You haven't done an analysis. You just got so lost spouting about averages that you forgot that it's irrelevant to the original point; nobody has lost out and every socio-economic group has gained.
    Perhaps you could post your analysis
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    God™ damn it!! I know a random forest when I see one!
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    Distributional analyses of the tax change suggested that the tax revision favored higher-income taxpayers, in part because most of the tax cut benefited corporations and in part because the individual income tax cut largely went to higher-income individuals. During the debate about taxes, however, arguments were made that these corporate tax cuts would benefit workers due to growth in investment and the capital stock.

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    The Department of Labor reports that average weekly wages of production and nonsupervisory workers were $742 in 2017 and $766 in 2018. Wages, assuming full-time work, increased by $1,248 annually. But this number must account for inflation and growth that would otherwise have occurred regardless of the tax change. The nominal growth rate in wages was 3.2%, but adjusting for the GDP pricedeflator, real wages increased by 1.2%. This growth is smaller than overall growth in labor compensation and indicates that ordinary workers had very little growth in wage rates.
    "The Economic Effects of the 2017 Tax Revision: Preliminary Observations" Congressional Research Service 5/5/2019

    Long term impact is still uncertain of course but early indicators are pretty much as the cynics amoungst us thought they'd be i.e. its another rip off.


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    That isn't what it says. It says that people who pay more tax gained more than people who pay less tax (which is kind of obvious). It doesn't say that people who pay less tax got poorer.
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    Have you read the report in full (you wont find many averages in there due to the researchers not being statitically challenged)?

    The indictors show that the much hyped & rebranded trickle down hasn't actually happened & that the primary beneficiaries are (suprise suprise) the already weathly. Rather than address the widening financial gap the measures appear (for the moment at least) to be making the situation worse with a dispropotionate about of money being absorbed by the rich, again.
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    There are several averages on the first page.

    You always combine your dumbest statements with an attempt to sound condescending.

    Real wages are up, and the poor keep more of them. If it's only relative wealth you're concerned about, I simply don't share your moral framework.

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    Well she was right about the Euro but as ever she never got the very real social consequences of the widening gap whether it be relative or not.
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    What social consequences ?
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