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    Mass shooting deaths were down, but violent crime overall hit all-time highs in that period



    The real problem is that large numbers of Americans live in relatively paranoid, isolated micro-societies with poor mental health and culturally reinforced messages about anger and retribution as righteous motives. From what I've seen in silicon valley Americans barely eat lunch together, much less form the kind of long-term workplace friendships normal for Asians and Europeans.

    Their murder rate was way higher than the UK's 120 years ago when you could buy pretty much any firearm you wanted in the UK too. This society doesn't need a heavily armed remote bureaucracy kicking in doors and doing exactly what the people who wrote the 2nd amendment wrote it to prevent. They need a big hug.
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    If you pick only one type of incident, you're not making a good point. Thats why your last post about the relatively tiny incidence of mass shootings missed the broader picture with violent crime.

    Americans need guns to protect themselves from crazier americans.

    'Active shooter' incident stats dont show you how many hot burglaries were prevented.
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    The assault rifle issue is a red herring

    More people are killed with pistols day to day
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    Most of the shootings in the US are due to urban gang violence.
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    It's pretty easy to get a rifle or shotgun here. You just need to join a gu club or have land that needs vermin control

    There just isn't a culture of showing off guns or carrying them around openly, despite the violent history of the armed struggle and the troubles

    The guards intervene quickly if anyone missuses legal fire arms

    However, gun ownership here is not a right but a privalige which does help keep guns out of the hands of nut jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    If you pick only one type of incident, you're not making a good point. Thats why your last post about the relatively tiny incidence of mass shootings missed the broader picture with violent crime.
    If that was the point I was making then I'd agree but it wasn't. There is a very vocal part of the debate that claims that ANY prohibition is a step too far yet the stats clearly show that SOME prohibition has a positive outcome.
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    A positive outcome *for one type of incident*. You aren't doing a net benefit analysis, you just *think* you are.
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    I never mentioned *net benefit analysis* because I wasn't talking about *net benefit analysis*

    Now be off with you & your *strawman*
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