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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    Only if you decided not to trade with us just because we left the EU. You don't have to do that. Unless the EU makes you. Is that what you'd want?
    If the UK became belligerent and began a trade war with the EU, as you seem to be suggesting, the hard decisions would have to be made and Ireland would have to consider it's position carefully. It would be a hard choice.

    On the upside, as the only English speaking EU state, Ireland could get more extra-EU direct investment, which is nice

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    They'd lose more export revenue than we would.
    Would you show the numbers for that?

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    That's an entirely spurious correlation. UK per Capita GDP declined during that period because we were a collapsing imperial power. Eventually that collapse stabilised. Would've happened inside or outside the EU.
    That is pure speculation on your part

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    Compare the growth of the following economies over that period: EU, UK, Hong Kong, US, Switzerland, Australia
    Go on then
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    Speculation about trade wars aside, Ireland could come into conflict with IUK (Independent UK) if they try to compete Corporation Tax wise with Ireland to attract foreign investment

    Could the UK try for a Tax Haven style business model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Üser Friendly View Post
    If the UK became belligerent and began a trade war with the EU, as you seem to be suggesting, the hard decisions would have to be made and Ireland would have to consider it's position carefully. It would be a hard choice.
    It wouldn't. You're suggesting that the EU would start a trade war with us if we left.

    Would you show the numbers for that?
    Already did.

    That is pure speculation on your part
    No it isn't. It's based on history and the underperformance of the EU relative to the other economies I cited.

    Go on then
    You find the figures and prove me wrong. Otherwise the point stands. I am right by default.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    It wouldn't. You're suggesting that the EU would start a trade war with us if we left.
    I suggested the EU would impose import duties and the UK would follow suit. Not quite a trade war, but nice try

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    Already did.
    I have already shown that once the loss is federalised IUK comes out way worse than each individual member state so...

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    No it isn't. It's based on history and the underperformance of the EU relative to the other economies I cited.
    Perhaps you could expand on this history andunderperformance, or I will be right by default. Apparently

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    You find the figures and prove me wrong. Otherwise the point stands. I am right by default.
    LOL. I'm not doing your leg work. Don't bother making claims if you can't be bothered backing them up
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    Nine out of 10 of the country’s top economists working across academia, the City, industry, small businesses and the public sector believe the British economy will be harmed by Brexit, according to the biggest survey of its kind ever conducted.

    A poll commissioned for the Observer and carried out by Ipsos MORI, which drew responses from more than 600 economists, found 88% saying an exit from the EU and the single market would most likely damage Britain’s growth prospects over the next five years.

    A striking 82% of the economists who responded thought there would probably be a negative impact on household incomes over the next five years in the event of a Leave vote, with 61% thinking unemployment would rise.

    Those surveyed were members of the profession’s most respected representative bodies, the Royal Economic Society and the Society of Business Economists, and all who replied did so voluntarily.

    Paul Johnson, director of the independent Institute for Fiscal Studies, said the findings, from a survey unprecedented in its scale, showed an extraordinary level of unity. “For a profession known to agree about little, it is pretty remarkable to see this degree of consensus about anything,” Johnson said. “It no doubt reflects the level of agreement among many economists about the benefits of free trade and the costs of uncertainty for economic growth.”

    Economists overwhelmingly reject Brexit
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    Yes, good thing you're not a known partisan lying asshole. I'll totally look into that.
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    Here is the actual survey results and the question that was asked.

    https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...n-Brexit.aspx#

    I wondered if they were diddling with the question to obtain a given result. This one isn't perfect, but it's specific enough to give you a decent dataset.


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    Professor of European Law at the University of Liverpool, Professor Dougan provides his viewpoint on the EU referendum, and discussed the facts and figures circulated by both the ‘Leave’ and ‘Remain’ campaigns.


    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTypBKEd8Y
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Fallacious Imputation
    Here's some guy who agrees with me, carefully presented without context, rebuttal, or anything but a sheer appeal to authority. But you can trust me! I'm a scientician!
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