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    So Gove is a coke head

    That explains a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robot Jesus View Post
    Clinton was played by Russia, but she let them do it. she lost by a few thousand votes in districts that where very clearly targeted by Putin. on the other end of things Marcon completely trolled Putin and revealed exactly how much effort Vlad was putting into his plan.

    to say Putin wasn't involved is willful ignorance, just because you feel bad that your nationalist bent is being exploited to make you one of his useful idiots.
    You believe things you read in centre-left establishment newspapers absolutely uncritically, don't you ?
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/w...-prepared.html

    but I guess that's not good enough. again what publications should I read or should I just decide politicians are to be trusted implicitly like you suggested a few months ago.


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    This article has nothing to do with the allegation that Russian propaganda influenced an election in the UK. That allegation has already been thrown out by the UK electoral commission.

    The article describes an amateurish attempt by 'people in russia' to access the Macron campaign's webservers and relies on innuendo and unnamed sources who don't rely on opinion, rather than producing evidence, to assure the reader that this was a professional job by a Russian intelligence agency.

    You're just tagging stuff that loosely fits the 'russian intelligence does bad things' meme without really understanding what the material says.
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    But Russian Inteligence does do bad things a most likely did attempt to influence British politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion View Post
    You believe things you read in centre-left establishment newspapers absolutely uncritically, don't you ?
    you were responding to me talking about marcon. Clear Russian interference on one side of the channel doesn't mean there is on the other. Clear Russian influence in the US does not mean clear interference in the UK.

    Clearly the UK is just special.

    Full court press? never heard of it.
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    There wasn't clear russian interference in France. There were some failed amateurish hacking attempts by people in Russia with no evidence of electoral impact.
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    ^Cullion Conway
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    You've retreated into your own version of reality. Brexit isn't the result of a russian conspiracy. It's a long-running grassroots movement that eventually forced Cameron to call a referendum when he saw how much the Tory vote was being eroded by UKIP.
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    the Russian conspiracy isn't to invent movements, but to capitalize on them. Putin didn't invent global right wing populism, neither did Ailes, or Murdock; but it certainly didn't get to where it is today purely organically, and the push from powerful actors has become pretty fucking blatant in the last decade or so.


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