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    Default Islam and Christianity: Is it the same God?

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    It's the same reason that the space-Jesus from Mormonism is not considered the same deity as Jesus from christianity.

    Same titles, or even same name as in Mormonism, but completely and utterly different and irreconcilable natures.


    *goes back to reading about Souls and christian history*
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    For more in-depth and both sides presented:


    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXN7PSVr2-U
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    New Testament is to Old Testament as Mormonism is to garden variety Xtianity.

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    Is Catholic god same as Proddy god?

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    Why do you think there are thirty-three thousand denominations of Christianity?

    The only way Christianity works is if a person reinterprets it till it's palatable or treats it like a buffet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molestulo View Post
    Why do you think there are thirty-three thousand denominations of Christianity?

    The only way Christianity works is if a person reinterprets it till it's palatable or treats it like a buffet.
    Wrong.

    There are 3 extant modes of Christianity from which denominations branch: Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant.

    Most of the splits occurred because of three reasons:

    1) Organizational: This is the biggest reason. This person didn't like that bishop or pastor so went on to form his/her own congregation but the bigwigs running the denomination didn't agree so they pulled funding so that new congregation just forms their own denomination. Or a congregation couldn't decide on how they wanted to structure themselves (do we have lay elders or deacons? does it matter?) so they split and formed identical denominations (see Church of God/Assemblies of God) just with different structure. This can also be from political meddling (for famous example see Anglicanism vs Roman Catholicism) after the mixture of church and state. This is -THE- number one reason for so many different denominations which is truly a modern phenomenon in the history of the Christian church. Many churches in history who would be considered a different denomination to modern eyes in this way would be dumbfounded because they considered themselves in full communion, if not always full agreement, with their fellow churches in their See.

    2) Traditional: This occurs when separate congregations have been apart for a long time and develop different traditions (do we sing? do we read publicly? are we stoic? are we joyful? etc) after the separation. This occurred historically from events like Rome getting beat up by barbarians, Islam splitting the Christian world into 3, Celtic christians being separated from their See for a long time (although eventually they rejoined in communion with Rome), a missionary leads some people to Christ and gave them some Scripture but then does not have contact with them again so they form their own group, et cetera.

    3) Theological: This is what most people think of as being the reason there are so many denominations when it is honestly the first two that account for most of the different denominations and historically it has been over some really petty things (is Christ -in- two natures or -of- two natures? is the trinity the best way to explain Father/Son/Holy Spirit dynamic? is this version of a gospel which was written much later but we feel has some great inspiration or is the original version older version canon? do we include those few apocryphal writings which were part of the old Jewish canon that tell the story between the Old Testament and the New or only the canonical books which made it into the Jews' Hebrew bible? if not, are they spurious or deuterocanon?). Of course there were some pretty famous splits like the Protestants from the Catholics (Lutheranism over indulgences and other warped teachings, Baptists over baptizing infants when they have no choice, et cetera) and the Calvinists vs Arminians' famous battle over free will and depravity.

    I also did not include the many cults of personality (which is huge in Africa) which usually only preach partial scripture or scripture combined with pagan/spiritist faiths or the cults of new/rewritten scripture (LDS/JW's) which are often included in those lists.
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