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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGA JESUS-SAMA View Post
    I figure the difference between the craftsman and artist is that the former makes what you want him to and the latter makes what he wants to; the difference between the unsuccessful and successful artist is how well he convinces you that you need the things he's making.
    false dichotomy, son.

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    elaborate

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    The Sistine chapel ceiling was a commissioned work.

    The skilled craftsman who expresses creativeness in physical form is by definition an artist.

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    As far as success you seem to measure it only by if one uses their creativeness to make a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moleculo View Post
    The Sistine chapel ceiling was a commissioned work.

    The skilled craftsman who expressed creativeness in physical form is by definition an artist.
    It was commissioned; it was not, however, specifically defined. He was commissioned to art all up on that ceiling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moleculo View Post
    As far as success you seem to measure it only by if one uses their creativeness to make a living.
    Not exactly. If he convinces anyone that they need his art to enrich their lives then he's succeeded at some level.

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    Convincing is the job of a salesman.
    Physically manifesting creativity is the job of an artist.

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    And art that is specifically defined is still art as long as the artist is putting some part of himself into it.

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    art is just a method of communication. if no one, anyone, wants to listen to you then you've failed.

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    Only in a commercial sense.

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    Art should speak to the artist first and foremost.

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