View Poll Results: How do you feel about the republican party?

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  • Disappointed in GW's handling of the Presidency, but still feel the Republican party is the best way forward

    0 0%
  • Felt like GW did a fine job, it's all these damn commie democrats that are screwing things up

    1 3.70%
  • I'm a libertarian, so I vote republican by default even though the religous right alienates me from the republican party.

    2 7.41%
  • The Republican party just got really unluckly for the last 8 years, and the democrats are only in now because they are backed by the liberal media.

    0 0%
  • I'm nuetral towards the GOP. Both sides are crazy/irrelevant/ in collusion/ a death cult/ select this option if you are Riddeck.

    2 7.41%
  • I like chocolate cake. / I don't vote or care.

    7 25.93%
  • The republican party is a disaster area, and it's their own damn fault. Liberal for Life.

    4 14.81%
  • I used to vote republican, but after GW Bush, they're going to have to change A LOT before I go back to the party.

    1 3.70%
  • I'm an independent, but I just trust Obama more to do the right thing.

    5 18.52%
  • I'm an independent but I lean toward distrusting the democrats because of their socialist ways.

    5 18.52%
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Thread: The Republican Party: Running on fumes?

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    Default The Republican Party: Running on fumes?

    I consider myself a fairly educated guy, but the Republican party of today, looks and sounds only vaguely like the republican party of the 1980's through 1990's.

    My i've just got 8 years of GW's admin stuck in my eyes and ears, but the party doesn't carry any real weight any more. This is probably due a lot to how propaganda was used so strongly by the former press secretaries and the unwillingness of the former president to hold anything resembling a public dialogue.

    Let me ask this question honestly, to all you dyed in the wool conservatives and libertarians out there, what do you think your party needs to do to get back it's once great political clout? And what do you think they should do with it once they have it?
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    Am I allowed to comment?
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    go right ahead i guess.
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    Their coalition has been running on fumes for a long time. Rural white guys are not a growth demographic. And the fanaticism of their base alienated their more centrist supporters among the soccer moms. They've known since Clinton stole the suburbs that they needed to expand their tent. That's why they originally brought in Bush in 2000 was as part of an attempt to reach out to hispanics and try to build a bridge there.

    They are also facing some of the inherent contradictions between the various pieces of their coalition. Libertarian free marketeers and conservative christians have always been an odd pairing that were pretty much only united by their hatred for liberals. These days, most of the leading lights on the christian right have remembered that they are supposed to take care of the poor and are pro social spending, or at least more pro social spending than the small government crowd are confortable with.

    How it all shakes out will be interesting. They might try to retake the suburbs with a moderate approach to social issues and a focus on good government, but that ground is firmly controlled by the dems right now. So it will be a slow fight. The more intriguing possibility is that they continue their outreach to religiously conservative african americans and hispanics and go for more of a classic american populist party combining religion and liberal social welfare programs.

    None of this has to happen tommorow. The trends are all against them, but they are slow. It's still a 51-49 game for at least another decade.
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    I don't get to vote, but even from Canada it looks like the republican party needs to retool it's reason for being. They have an image problem with 'mainstream' voters, and seem to be doing nothing for making it better. But, in a two party system, you can be a total clusterfuck and still get a lot of votes from the people who hate the other party.


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    I think when you talk about it in terms of 'Libertarians' vs. 'Christian Right', you're ignoring the dominant force before and throughout the Bush administration. Neoconservatives.

    They're neither of those, but they sure suckered a lot of both of those types of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    I think when you talk about it in terms of 'Libertarians' vs. 'Christian Right', you're ignoring the dominant force before and throughout the Bush administration. Neoconservatives.

    They're neither of those, but they sure suckered a lot of both of those types of people.

    The Neoconservatives are a war-crazed tyrannical poison in your body politic. And I think most people can see it now.
    They can also all fit into a decent sized motel room and have room to dance. They are (were) relevant as think tankers, but they have exactly zero relevance to electoral calculations.
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    Except that they ran your government for eight years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    Except that they ran your government for eight years.
    Not even vaguely. They were way too influential on our Iraq policy, but there were only a tiny handful of them in the administration, none above cabinet deputy.
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