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    Today Reuters reported that millions of Americans will be blocked from voting because of "legal barriers, faulty procedures or dirty tricks".

    The largest category of those legally disenfranchised consists of almost 5 million former felons who have served prison sentences and been deprived of the right to vote under laws that have roots in the post-Civil War 19th century and were aimed at preventing black Americans from voting.


    But millions of other votes in the 2000 presidential election were lost due to clerical and administrative errors while civil rights organizations have cataloged numerous tactics aimed at suppressing black voter turnout. Polls consistently find that black Americans overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.
    Not that Democrats are really any better than Republicans, but they've been sold that anyhow.

    I followed this pretty close last election because its unbelievable the things that these people do to stop blacks from voting:
    "There are individuals and officials who are actively trying to stop people from voting who they think will vote against their party and that nearly always means stopping black people from voting Democratic," said Mary Frances Berry, head of the U.S. Commission on Human Rights.


    Vicky Beasley, a field officer for People for the American Way, listed some of the ways voters have been "discouraged" from voting.


    "In elections in Baltimore in 2002 and in Georgia last year, black voters were sent fliers saying anyone who hadn't paid utility bills or had outstanding parking tickets or were behind on their rent would be arrested at polling stations. It happens in every election cycle," she said
    You don't say!

    The article also mentions that in the mayoral election in Philly there were people pretending to be plainclothes police officers standing outside voting stations asking people to identify themselves. There were also unidentified people videotaping them.

    Minority voters may be deterred from voting simply by election officials demanding to see drivers' licenses before handing them a ballot, according to Spencer Overton, who teaches law at George Washington University. The federal government does not require people to produce a photo identification unless they are first-time voters who registered by mail.
    Very simple scare tactic: you tell people they will be punished for something stupid if they vote and then intimidate them at the actual event.

    The U.S. commison on Civil Rights reported that in 2000 black voters were "10 times more likely than non-black voters to have their ballots rejected and were often prevented from voting because their names were erroneously purged from registration lists."

    "This has a huge effect on elections but also on black communities which see their political clout diluted. No one has yet explained to me how letting ex-felons who have served their sentences into polling booths hurts anyone," said Jessie Allen of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University.
    Amen to that.

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    No no, you must be mistaken. Racism was cured in America a long time ago.
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    Oh thats right, I forgot.

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    If blacks are being prevented from voting it is a serious issue. One problem is the number of volunteers. We want to pay every for everything and yet let elections be run in a half-assed way.

    However, the places where black votes are the strongest the democrats still won those states. PA and MD both went to Gore. GA went to bush but probably would have even if no blacks were stopped from voting.
    http://www.archives.gov/federal_regi...embers.html#ga

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    And Florida? Lots of black people in Florida. Reports of State Troopers stopping black drivers on the way to the polls were pretty common.
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    source?



    Pd what is the title of the article you posted i could not find it on reuters.

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    The largest category of those legally disenfranchised consists of almost 5 million former felons who have served prison sentences and been deprived of the right to vote
    Who cares? Do former felons deserve to vote? In Canada the law has gone back and forth on this multiple times in the last 10 years, so to say that this sort of law is archaic is rather silly.
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    Fucking thing disappeared on Reuters! I checked Yahoo and they had a link though:

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...aign_vote_dc_3

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    thanks for the source. I like to read articles not cut up

    The author has a problem with prisons too.
    The largest category of those legally disenfranchised consists of almost 5 million former felons who have served prison sentences and been deprived of the right to vote under laws that have roots in the post-Civil War 19th century and were aimed at preventing black Americans from voting
    I'd like to see him with some evidence for this.

    African Americans are four to five times less likely than whites to have a photo ID," Overton said at a recent briefing on minority disenfranchisement.
    Then a national id might be a good idea. Why do black ppl have less photo id? And i won't even get into the idiocy of calling black ppl african americans.

    The federal government does not require people to produce a photo identification unless they are first-time voters who registered by mail.
    This says nothing about state law which may require photo ID. Federal law is only relevant if it sepcifically states that ID does NOT have to be shown and CANNOT be asked for.

    Additionally, Florida is one of 14 states that prohibit ex-felons from voting. Seven percent of the electorate but 16 percent of black voters in that state are disenfranchised.
    You are not disenfranchised if you got your ass in prison

    There is alot more i could do to this article.

    BTW this is not an objective source. Elsner is a big anti-corporation and anti-prison guy.

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    Originally posted by cyrijl
    You are not disenfranchised if you got your ass in prison

    Sure you are. Whether or not you "deserved" it is beside the point. From that point on you have legal restrictions on your ability to do things, social stigma to deal with, in addition to the poverty and such you might have already been dealing with.


    It's not a constructive social strategy to ignore social problems because you think that you're better than other citizens.

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