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NoBowie
11th April 17, 01:25 PM
9uTYQVmTQiQ

Goddamn I am aroused and leaking freedom all over the place. It just gets better and better.

MerkinMuffly
11th April 17, 11:34 PM
I think I just had a libertygasm.

NoBowie
11th April 17, 11:47 PM
I learned eagles can fire machine guns as long as they are mounted.

MerkinMuffly
12th April 17, 11:53 AM
An eagle popping a boner sounds like freedom.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
12th April 17, 12:03 PM
all u need to know about murika

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17862850_669504556574547_634581165951627104_n.jpg? oh=9cbf986dfc9e286b8cf0238f5a5ad11b&oe=5957E9E8

NoBowie
12th April 17, 03:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8GiCSU9.png

Üser Friendly
16th April 17, 04:41 AM
9uTYQVmTQiQ

Goddamn I am aroused and leaking freedom all over the place. It just gets better and better.

It's 50 separate countries AFAIK

Üser Friendly
23rd April 17, 04:36 AM
America

The Land where it doesn't matter how stupid you are, if you're rich enough you can still be president

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
27th April 17, 01:35 PM
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18058144_1322317711157403_8727307613422284129_n.jp g?oh=4ac2082d126bb2c8fd1f49ce33febffc&oe=59BE84C5

NoBowie
28th April 17, 12:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/7IAP9nL.jpg

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
4th October 17, 08:03 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22089887_1913505448970221_2509992815459034842_n.jp g?oh=6a0cba3b3f66c40402f0cbe8799792d8&oe=5A411413

Harpy
5th October 17, 07:50 AM
I seriously hope no one on the forum has had family or friends affected.

Just cannot understand how many more civilian lives are going to be sacrificed to uphold an archaic 'law'.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
5th October 17, 08:36 AM
https://fb-s-d-a.akamaihd.net/h-ak-fbx/v/t1.0-9/22228595_1440630259377129_5207256502001173257_n.jp g?oh=81610a3542bd04cd4917bf5464b95e70&oe=5A794DAE&__gda__=1514430021_39ad717e4f62bd9b8ad811145172f50 6

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
9th October 17, 11:47 AM
No... no problem here...

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NoBowie
9th October 17, 01:49 PM
More of a culture problem than a gun availability problem, but OK.

Harpy
9th October 17, 08:47 PM
From the outside, it is a gun problem. You're too close to it to see.

Cullion
10th October 17, 05:27 AM
It still amazes me how passionate people who've never lived in America, and probably never will, get about ending the 2nd amendment.

Pie of Hate
10th October 17, 06:28 AM
It still amazes me how passionate people who've never lived in America, and probably never will, get about ending the 2nd amendment.

It's always easier to get shout-y about other countries issues.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
10th October 17, 06:30 AM
I've lived in America & if I did again I'd buy a gun, those fuckers are mental!

MerkinMuffly
11th October 17, 07:23 PM
The 2nd Amendment is here to stay. However when it was written, people had to pack their muskets one round at a time.

NoBowie
16th October 17, 01:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Cqmurd7.jpg

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
24th October 17, 07:20 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22789173_10155306889294263_2772442957312535175_n.j pg?oh=2b5a965a15921d3468049e1c0457ef78&oe=5A7F4105

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
6th November 17, 04:33 AM
Yeah still no gun problem in the US. In other news, still no such thing as a white terrorist.

MerkinMuffly
8th November 17, 01:47 PM
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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
9th November 17, 06:00 AM
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NoBowie
10th November 17, 01:39 PM
https://i.imgur.com/94A1DCf.png

https://i.imgur.com/4MRms1M.png

https://i.imgur.com/Tb0W3VL.png

https://i.imgur.com/fRN9wwh.png

https://i.imgur.com/l7REPTX.png

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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
10th November 17, 05:02 PM
Roy Moore!! WHAT THE FUCK!!! (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-moore-alabama-government-defenders-sexual-encounter-allegations/)

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
14th February 18, 04:32 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16195445_793040197510603_4134357723859165012_n.jpg ?oh=8cb8d590bbda358277bc638d3f8fe456&oe=5B1455AD

Cullion
14th February 18, 04:54 AM
You haven't actually read the New Testament, have you Max?

In the actual book, rather than what left-wing atheists wish or imagine, Jesus thinks that non-Jews are dogs/vermin and that people who refuse to work should be left to starve.

'Jesus was a hippy why aren't Christians more like him' memes from people who've never picked up a bible are retarded.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
14th February 18, 07:18 AM
I agree he was a Religious Fascist!

Cullion
14th February 18, 12:06 PM
Fascist is a bit strong, but he would likely have voted Conservative.

NoBowie
14th February 18, 12:19 PM
Jesus had daddy issues.

MerkinMuffly
14th February 18, 11:48 PM
Jesus was about as political as Lily.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
15th February 18, 05:36 AM
Fascist is a bit strong, but he would likely have voted Conservative.

That's what Pence & Jacob Rees-Tree-Frogg would like you to believe.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
15th February 18, 11:52 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28058365_883296441852265_4748931391964434677_n.jpg ?oh=a845dcf4e0111ae1939161df86c8b8c3&oe=5B1BF584

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
16th February 18, 08:49 AM
WASHINGTON—Deflecting questions in the aftermath of the mass shooting in Las Vegas that killed 59 people and injured over 500 more, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Tuesday that this is not the geologic era in which to debate gun control. “Out of respect for the families of the victims, we’re going to hold off on engaging in discourse over the regulation of firearms for a few eons,” said Sanders, adding that it would be premature to discuss enacting any sort of policies to prevent mass shootings until the next ice age has set in, likely long after the extinction of the human race. “Once the nation has had time to properly grieve and the continents have completed millions of years of tectonic migration to collide into one supercontinent, then we can bring this issue to the table. However, until a new dominant species rules the earth, it’s just not appropriate to address this issue.” At press time, Sanders said that a more realistic time to discuss gun control was after the sun expanded into its red giant stage and engulfed the planet.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th February 18, 04:16 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27858407_10156124344773518_3653043042894851419_n.j pg?oh=0a98abeb55cbdd04991f1f3a36de2f59&oe=5B17214B

NoBowie
17th February 18, 06:59 AM
I think the gun ownership laws we have on the books are fine but I wouldn't mind more surrounding folks who train others. School teachers have to be certified and checked.

Hateful wackos shouldn't be training folks with mental problems on how to be more effective killers.


https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27858407_10156124344773518_3653043042894851419_n.j pg?oh=0a98abeb55cbdd04991f1f3a36de2f59&oe=5B17214B

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th February 18, 08:33 AM
I think the gun ownership laws we have on the books are fine..

Yeah they're really working out well for y'all.



Hateful wackos shouldn't be training folks with mental problems on how to be more effective killers.

That's not going to go down well with the US Marine Corps

NoBowie
17th February 18, 11:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8cjPQFT.jpg

NoBowie
17th February 18, 11:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Mbrub0V.jpg

NoBowie
17th February 18, 11:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VBBl0uF.jpg

Harpy
18th February 18, 12:57 AM
What a load. Cigarettes are a known carcinogen. The purchase and consumption of which are an adult consumer choice. Plz remove from misleading infographic!

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
19th February 18, 06:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/VBBl0uF.jpg

Yeah I mean you can like go out with a pack of cigarettes & kill 58 & injure over 800 in just 10 minutes!!!

Your use of statistics sucks! Stick to shoving assault weapons up your arse.

NoBowie
19th February 18, 11:31 AM
Yeah I mean you can like go out with a pack of cigarettes & kill 58 & injure over 800 in just 10 minutes!!!

Your use of statistics sucks! Stick to shoving assault weapons up your arse.

Obviously you aren't taking into account folks choking on cigarettes, distracted driving with cigarettes, or setting fires.

All of those deaths occur in just minutes!

Oh, and I have been looking at AR15s. Want to get one before some silly new law kicks in.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
19th February 18, 12:28 PM
Yes NoB somebody deliberately goes out & kills 58 people with a packet of cigarettes, they are sooOOoo obviously comparable statistics.

By the way I think you could totally take an AR15 coz I believe in you!

Cullion
19th February 18, 01:14 PM
Yes NoB somebody deliberately goes out & kills 58 people with a packet of cigarettes, they are sooOOoo obviously comparable statistics.

By the way I think you could totally take an AR15 coz I believe in you!

What do you mean by 'deliberately', and why is it important in a risk assessment?

NoBowie
19th February 18, 01:21 PM
What do you mean by 'deliberately', and why is it important in a risk assessment?

Because, feelings are what is important here. Gun deaths feel much worse than others, so volume doesn't matter.

The malpractice deaths are OK, because the medical industry is highly regulated, not just anyone can practice, which control freaks like Fauxtor love.

Never mind that despite all of those regs and government controls, 250k people died, almost 1000 fucking times more than rifle deaths.

MerkinMuffly
20th February 18, 01:37 AM
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MerkinMuffly
20th February 18, 01:39 AM
With that rifle, little Jack can get all the beer, smokes, porn, and scratchy lotteries he wants, as well as shut up anyone who tells him otherwise.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
20th February 18, 04:29 AM
What do you mean by 'deliberately', and why is it important in a risk assessment?

You dont think intention is a factor in mass shootings?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
20th February 18, 04:34 AM
Because, feelings are what is important here. Gun deaths feel much worse than others, so volume doesn't matter.

Your lack of ability to discern between different phenomena is what is important here.


The malpractice deaths are OK, because the medical industry is highly regulated, not just anyone can practice, which control freaks like Fauxtor love.

Next time you go to the hospital remember this, as you obviously would go even if it was staffed by unregulated Woo Practitioners.

Cullion
20th February 18, 06:30 AM
You dont think intention is a factor in mass shootings?

Why does intention matter ?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
20th February 18, 07:41 AM
Well gee if somebody intends to kill someone I guess that might be a problem...

NoBowie
20th February 18, 11:19 AM
You are missing the point.

Either preventable deaths is what we are worrying about and we should focus on the top killers, or you are just making decisions based on 'mah feelings' and are wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/RB1d3SN.jpg



Your lack of ability to discern between different phenomena is what is important here.



Next time you go to the hospital remember this, as you obviously would go even if it was staffed by unregulated Woo Practitioners.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
20th February 18, 11:26 AM
You are missing the point.

No you are trying (poorly) to re-frame the debate so it points to a generalized debate about Death but the debate is about a specific cause of Death namely, Alienated Men with access to killing machines.


2/10 - can do better

PS you only got 2 coz I think you can fit an AR12 up your butt

NoBowie
20th February 18, 11:45 AM
https://i.imgur.com/vtHuXKX.png

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
20th February 18, 01:04 PM
Seriously that's the best you can do?

"Mass Shooting Incidents in the US and Gun Ownership are NOT correlated" - hilarious its as if they dont even understand their own fucking graph HAHAHAHhahahahHAHAHA!

Oh & the primary source for their data doesn't even exist! (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shooting-mother-jones-full-data/)

Try this one out its a little more rigorous.....


Objectives. We examined the relationship between levels of household firearm ownership, as measured directly and by a proxy—the percentage of suicides committed with a firearm—and age-adjusted firearm homicide rates at the state level.

Methods. We conducted a negative binomial regression analysis of panel data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Web-Based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting Systems database on gun ownership and firearm homicide rates across all 50 states during 1981 to 2010. We determined fixed effects for year, accounted for clustering within states with generalized estimating equations, and controlled for potential state-level confounders.

Results. Gun ownership was a significant predictor of firearm homicide rates (incidence rate ratio = 1.009; 95% confidence interval = 1.004, 1.014). This model indicated that for each percentage point increase in gun ownership, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9%.

Conclusions. We observed a robust correlation between higher levels of gun ownership and higher firearm homicide rates. Although we could not determine causation, we found that states with higher rates of gun ownership had disproportionately large numbers of deaths from firearm-related homicides.

The Relationship Between Gun Ownership and Firearm Homicide Rates in the United States, 1981–2010 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/)

NoBowie
20th February 18, 02:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MlECNBd.png

Cullion
20th February 18, 06:35 PM
No you are trying (poorly) to re-frame the debate so it points to a generalized debate about Death but the debate is about a specific cause of Death namely, Alienated Men with access to killing machines.


2/10 - can do better

PS you only got 2 coz I think you can fit an AR12 up your butt

You want to argue about risks of death without allowing the other side to make comparisons of risk because as soon as they do that your point look foolish. The reason you're obsessed with disarming Americans is that you're a brainwashed leftist and the sight of free people enjoying their weapons outrages you. The reason you've been brainwashed to think this is that people like Hilary Clinton live in constant fear that the one day the mob will come for them with torches and pitchforks.

NoBowie
20th February 18, 06:51 PM
The Fauxtor has inspired me to make a change in my life, something I was hesitant about doing before:

https://i.imgur.com/au73cW2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xwkWfpa.jpg

Harpy
20th February 18, 08:23 PM
Lol - I can imagine one of the twins shooting you accidentally not accidentally :)

NoBowie
20th February 18, 08:59 PM
Lol - I can imagine one of the twins shooting you accidentally not accidentally :)

I bet your son will go there first when he realizes what a ballbuster you are.

NoBowie
20th February 18, 11:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/yfgSrPJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X0KCIMj.jpg

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st February 18, 05:31 AM
You want to argue about risks of death without allowing the other side to make comparisons of risk because as soon as they do that your point look foolish. The reason you're obsessed with disarming Americans is that you're a brainwashed leftist and the sight of free people enjoying their weapons outrages you. The reason you've been brainwashed to think this is that people like Hilary Clinton live in constant fear that the one day the mob will come for them with torches and pitchforks.

FTR I'm not in favour of disarming Americans

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st February 18, 06:29 AM
The Fauxtor has inspired me to make a change in my life, something I was hesitant about doing before:

https://i.imgur.com/au73cW2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xwkWfpa.jpg


Daddy, Daddy there was a shooting at school today


Dont worry Dreadlocked-Trans-Sons the NRA will make sure it wont happen again just like it did last time & the time before & the time before that... oh & the time before that as well

Cullion
21st February 18, 06:40 AM
FTR I'm not in favour of disarming Americans

I don't believe you.

I am in favour or re-arming British people.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st February 18, 07:28 AM
I don't believe you.

I have stated many times that if I lived in the US I'd buy a gun.


I am in favour or re-arming British people.

Are you a gun owner?

Cullion
21st February 18, 09:28 AM
I have stated many times that if I lived in the US I'd buy a gun.

What would you use it for?




Are you a gun owner?

No, I do go shooting occasionally with a rented one though. I'm not very good but I love it.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st February 18, 10:07 AM
What would you use it for?

Making sure NoB doesnt steal my picnic baskets



No, I do go shooting occasionally with a rented one though. I'm not very good but I love it.

I used to hunt with guns when I lived in the countryside, have been thinking about clay pigeon shooting for a while but haven't done anything about it

NoBowie
21st February 18, 10:38 AM
Making sure NoB doesnt steal my picnic baskets



Socialist comrade, those are the people's picnic baskets, not yours.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st February 18, 11:49 AM
The people are welcome to them as long as they have picnic insurance.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
22nd February 18, 05:51 AM
Arming teachers? What does the peanut gallery think?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
22nd February 18, 02:17 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28058517_564863520553385_8787481644658821530_n.jpg ?oh=eb407dda88a19452233fda62f8d184f4&oe=5B132435

Harpy
22nd February 18, 02:40 PM
Why would Cullion need a gun?

NoB - how would my son shoot me if he doesn't have access to guns the way your kids do?

I am all in favour of keeping Americans armed. They continue to provide a great reason for the rest of us to remain as we are and even scale back current allowances - no developed nation's government is going to pass a bill to arm their population.

Pie of Hate
23rd February 18, 05:10 AM
no developed nation's dictatorship is going to pass a bill to arm their population.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
27th February 18, 10:12 AM
Georgia lieutenant governor threatens Delta after it cuts ties with NRA. (http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/375646-georgia-lt-gov-threatens-delta-unless-it-restores-relationship-with-nra)

How is that even legal? No wonder y'all fucked up!

NoBowie
27th February 18, 04:31 PM
LOL:

https://i.imgur.com/WvGvSv0.jpg

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
28th February 18, 05:30 AM
Hey maybe you should be made to buy liability insurance when you buy a gun!

MerkinMuffly
28th February 18, 08:42 PM
Homeowners insurance will cover accidental shootings but it won't cover you shooting a burglar.

Harpy
1st March 18, 02:51 AM
Heartwarming for the family.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
1st March 18, 05:08 AM
Y'all fucked!

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Harpy
1st March 18, 02:53 PM
LOL!!

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
8th March 18, 12:35 PM
"There aren't sufficient scientific facts to establish the theory of evolution, and it deals with the origins of man, which is more from a philosophical standpoint than a scientific standpoint" - Scott Pruitt, the head of the US Environmental Protection Agency

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
22nd March 18, 03:37 AM
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.

On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.

20,000 Republicans just voted for an actual Nazi (https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/)

https://i0.wp.com/thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/artjones.jpg?resize=1280%2C720px&ssl=1

Pie of Hate
22nd March 18, 07:57 AM
I hate the Illinois Nazis.

Cullion
23rd March 18, 03:06 PM
Let's take a step back. It's very easy to see a picture of somebody wearing a paramilitary uniform, giving a seig-heil salute with a swastika banner behind them to an all-white crowd and draw the wrong conclusion.

Cullion
23rd March 18, 03:07 PM
Maybe this was an Indiana Jones LARP thing?

NoBowie
23rd March 18, 04:36 PM
20,000 Republicans just voted for an actual Nazi (https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/)

https://i0.wp.com/thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/artjones.jpg?resize=1280%2C720px&ssl=1

20k. Hmm.How many green party members are there? Have you read their manifesto?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
24th March 18, 01:11 PM
Are you drunk?

NoBowie
24th March 18, 01:26 PM
Are you drunk?

Nope. Green party's manifesto basically calls for human genocide.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
25th March 18, 09:07 AM
So what's your point?

Its OK to vote for Nazi's because the Green Party are mental?

NoBowie
25th March 18, 10:56 AM
No. Those Republicans who voted for that guy are whack.

But 20k is a pretty small number.

NoBowie
26th March 18, 08:19 PM
Eagles of Death Metal's Jesse Hughes, a survivor of a mass-shooting incident, called the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School "disgusting vile abusers of the dead" for participating in the March for Our Lives protest.

Hughes penned his tirade in the caption of an Instagram post that mocked gun control and the efforts for stricter gun laws. "Obviously … The best thing to do to combat chronic abusers and disregarders of the law (like the law against Murder) is to ... pass another Law," Hughes wrote. "But before we pass this law we're going to denigrate the memory and curse ourselves by exploiting the death of 16 of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention."

"Look how well civil rights abuses as it concerns firearms helped to protect me and my friends in Paris," Hughes added. Eagles of Death Metal were onstage at Paris' Bataclan on the night of November 13th, 2015, when armed terrorists stormed the venue and killed 89 people.

Harpy
27th March 18, 01:25 AM
How many social media likes did he get?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
27th March 18, 08:27 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29541183_820282514828490_7815058283544546786_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEsHJyG_13Kv_2rBTMTaSDbliWGZtUPgCNU QZScYGe6Z3sYb5xcdcub8hkwbMx27eJmvIKHudR4lwFV4Vt1yK 1ZYrn28tRa_V4Zga4PdAHm8w&oh=6e598620b6c6f503f55a9c623a8897af&oe=5B30CBED

Cullion
28th March 18, 03:22 AM
They already have oil in Mexico. As long as they continue to price it in dollars there wont be any problems between them and the US Marine Corps.

NoBowie
25th April 18, 07:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/m49ymh8.jpg

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st May 18, 06:25 AM
The Theocracy is comming for your children (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/05/devos-demands-taxpayer-money-for-religious-schools/)

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
25th May 18, 05:47 AM
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33401831_968497426643832_4167816296735440896_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeFcDUSMGTEpfNUkKMCMzHcU1CZv73jYaC34ZSaaf gUcBgZVClXr60moLRCAcx0HWp8Utt2oKHmTyGPc9RfxKOz1_sm 54qL_ii1iQD4bl6Iovw&oh=6e39476f813e62886319ef0847463d06&oe=5B7671D8

Jean-Paul Sartre
25th May 18, 08:15 AM
America!

Armed citizen kills shooter who opened fire in Oklahoma restaurant.

A man armed with a pistol walked into Louie’s On The Lake restaurant at the dinner hour and opened fire, wounding two customers, before being shot dead by a handgun-carrying civilian.


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/643726002

AAAAAA
25th May 18, 10:15 PM
America!

Armed citizen kills shooter who opened fire in Oklahoma restaurant.

A man armed with a pistol walked into Louie’s On The Lake restaurant at the dinner hour and opened fire, wounding two customers, before being shot dead by a handgun-carrying civilian.


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/643726002

You must really trust your fellow countrymen, no, Humans, to be decent people, if you want them all to be armed. It only takes one crazy...
ohhh....

yes, I see. You already have armed crazies. It's turtles all the way down, now.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
26th May 18, 05:45 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33522240_2180172615333248_3760125936435986432_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=fc32d2b72a2ae6e1fdeb05af83eb2bce&oe=5B8238B5

Pie of Hate
26th May 18, 07:46 AM
Those places are all “shitholes” so they don’t count.

Jean-Paul Sartre
26th May 18, 12:59 PM
Those places are all “shitholes” so they don’t count.

Aye. And rejecting freedom is lame.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
28th May 18, 12:35 PM
After being forcibly removed from their parents Federal officials lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/federal-agency-says-it-lost-track-of-1475-migrant-children/2018/04/27/48960718-49d3-11e8-8082-105a446d19b8_story.html?utm_term=.e077e378f1b8)

Hmmm.....

MerkinMuffly
30th May 18, 01:45 AM
In other news, try the new Soylent Brown.

Harpy
30th May 18, 06:48 AM
Are you happy 'Roseanne' has been cancelled?!

Jean-Paul Sartre
30th May 18, 07:56 AM
Are you happy 'Roseanne' has been cancelled?!

I didn't like the show, but with its frequent back and forth dialogues between liberal and conservative characters it had the potential to make some of the clueless masses at least realize there are different leaning folks out there who are OK people and maybe open some friendlier conversations or more centrist thinking.

What an idiot to ruin a successful show with a racist tweet.

MerkinMuffly
30th May 18, 10:02 PM
Are you happy 'Roseanne' has been cancelled?!

I could care less what rednecks watch. I am happy that she blamed Ambien. That gave me a chuckle.

MerkinMuffly
30th May 18, 10:09 PM
I didn't like the show, but with its frequent back and forth dialogues between liberal and conservative characters it had the potential to make some of the clueless masses at least realize there are different leaning folks out there who are OK people and maybe open some friendlier conversations or more centrist thinking.
As a general rule people tend to get more entrenched in their partisan positions and do all their 'dialogue' on social media yelling SJW! and Nazi" at each other.

Harpy
31st May 18, 04:48 AM
I never had time to watch the reboot, but shows like Roseanne, The Wonder Years, Married with Children and I Dream of Jeannie were the background at home in the late 80s and early 90s. My opinion of America was pretty much formed on that bucket as a child.

Yeah, she was silly to do that.

Üser Friendly
31st May 18, 06:23 AM
Eagles of Death Metal's Jesse Hughes, a survivor of a mass-shooting incident, called the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School "disgusting vile abusers of the dead" for participating in the March for Our Lives protest.

Hughes penned his tirade in the caption of an Instagram post that mocked gun control and the efforts for stricter gun laws. "Obviously … The best thing to do to combat chronic abusers and disregarders of the law (like the law against Murder) is to ... pass another Law," Hughes wrote. "But before we pass this law we're going to denigrate the memory and curse ourselves by exploiting the death of 16 of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention."

"Look how well civil rights abuses as it concerns firearms helped to protect me and my friends in Paris," Hughes added. Eagles of Death Metal were onstage at Paris' Bataclan on the night of November 13th, 2015, when armed terrorists stormed the venue and killed 89 people.

LOL @ someone in a.'death metal ' band getting all upset about a bunch of death going on at a 'death metal ' concert

Perhaps they should reform as new country ensemble

MerkinMuffly
31st May 18, 11:00 AM
Doofa doesn't understand death metal.

Üser Friendly
31st May 18, 12:10 PM
What's to understand?

Cullion
31st May 18, 01:32 PM
It's like in Dungeons and Dragons where you don't *actually* attack each other with real swords

Üser Friendly
31st May 18, 01:47 PM
Then perhaps they should rename it LARP metal and quit whingeing

Cullion
31st May 18, 03:08 PM
I have no counterargument

Üser Friendly
31st May 18, 03:24 PM
You've gone soft on me

MerkinMuffly
31st May 18, 11:31 PM
Death metal is more like artwork and less like a filthy bucketshitter posting videos of himself struggling to control a staff, if that helps you to grasp the concept.

Üser Friendly
1st June 18, 06:24 AM
Art lol

When did you get so pretentious Reese?

Harpy
1st June 18, 07:21 AM
Merkin has good taste.

No one wants to talk about Trump's tariffs on China, Canada (go Justin!!), Mexico and the EU? Or his latest meeting with Kim Kardashian? You couldn't write a better tv show America.

Üser Friendly
1st June 18, 08:19 AM
Reese's musical taste or lack thereof isn't really what I was getting at, but his evident butt hurt is always funny to read

MerkinMuffly
1st June 18, 12:10 PM
Reese's musical taste or lack thereof isn't really what I was getting at, but his evident butt hurt is always funny to read
Oh the irony.

Üser Friendly
1st June 18, 12:22 PM
^ closet Alanis Morissette fan

MerkinMuffly
1st June 18, 12:51 PM
^doesn't know the meaning of irony

Üser Friendly
1st June 18, 01:02 PM
^doesn't know the meaning of closet

Jean-Paul Sartre
1st June 18, 06:07 PM
^ closet Alanis Morissette fan

I like her openly.

MerkinMuffly
1st June 18, 11:04 PM
[shudders]

MerkinMuffly
1st June 18, 11:10 PM
...

Üser Friendly
2nd June 18, 09:15 AM
Looks like someone has a black fly in their chardonnay

MerkinMuffly
2nd June 18, 11:36 PM
This talentless bitch can pretend she's all alternative but she's a fraud.

Check this out:
ar7afdfBHj4

MerkinMuffly
2nd June 18, 11:37 PM
Alanis is even worse than Mariah Carey.
V9TXQPEJLOE

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 12:40 AM
And if that isn't bad enough:
tA3dzBrXYtc

Üser Friendly
3rd June 18, 04:30 AM
And yet screaming incomprehensible lyrics into a mic over distorted guitar and bass is somehow 'art'

Wotevs son

Harpy
3rd June 18, 07:33 AM
Many artists struggle to make it big and are probably pressured to perform genres that are not their first choice until they make it big enough to call the shots. Others may experiment with different styles. Not sure why Merkin is being so judgey here.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 12:11 PM
Many artists struggle to make it big and are probably pressured to perform genres that are not their first choice until they make it big enough to call the shots. Others may experiment with different styles. Not sure why Merkin is being so judgey here. I am judging her face, her voice, her terrible acting, and the fact that she doesn't really seem to have the principles that keep her from whoring herself out.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 12:24 PM
And yet screaming incomprehensible lyrics into a mic over distorted guitar and bass is somehow 'art'

Wotevs son

It's only incomprehensible if you don't bother to read the lyrics.



Through vast valleys I wonder
To the highest peaks
On pathways through a wild forgotten landscape
In search of God, in spite of man
'til the lost forsaken endless. . .
This is where I choose to tread

Fall. . .so shall we fall into the nihil?
The nothingness that we feel in the arms of the pale
In the shadow of the grim companion who walks with us

Here is the landscape
Here is the sun
Here in the balance of the earth
Where is the god?
Has he fallen and abandoned us?

As I'm stalked by the shadow of death's hand
The fire in my heart is forged across the land

Here at the edge of this world
Here I gaze at a pantheon of oak, a citadel of stone
If this grand panorama before me is what you call God. . .
Then God is not dead

I walked down to a river and sat in reflection of what had to be done
An offering of crimson flowed into the water below
A wound of spirit from which it floated and faded away

. . .like every hope I've ever had. . .
. . .like every dream I've ever known. . .
It washed away in a tide of longing, a longing for a better world
From my will, my throat, to the river, and into the sea. . .
. . .wash away. . .
. . .fade away. . .

Here is the landscape
Here is the sun
Here at the edge of the earth
Where is the god?
Has he fallen to ruin?

As I'm stalked by the shadow of death's hand
My heathen pride is scarred across the land

Üser Friendly
3rd June 18, 12:39 PM
If you have to read the lyrics it might just as well be angsty teenage poetry

Don't get me wrong Reese, taste in music is totally subjective and if you like it, more power to you

But a genre that self identifies with death, torture, s&m etc can't realy be taken seriously when those things actually take place at one of their performances they all start crying 'oh noes. Death isn't quite so much fun after all '

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 01:01 PM
If you have to read the lyrics it might just as well be angsty teenage poetry

Don't get me wrong Reese, taste in music is totally subjective and if you like it, more power to you

But a genre that self identifies with death, torture, s&m etc can't realy be taken seriously when those things actually take place at one of their performances

I'm not into death metal, but I know art when I see it.

Take your last statement and apply it to a Steven King book reading and see how stupid it sounds.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 01:09 PM
BTW,

0LT0tT8wTjg

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 01:12 PM
You've heard of The Eagles, right. farmboy?

Jean-Paul Sartre
3rd June 18, 01:58 PM
Making bad music in the past or the persona you put out does not preclude one's music from being good.

"Hand in pocket" and "You oughta know" are excellent songs.

Hell, some heavy metal / satanic persona bands have members who are secretly practicing Christians.

Üser Friendly
3rd June 18, 04:02 PM
I'm not into death metal, but I know art when I see it.
Don't you mean when you hear it?


Take your last statement and apply it to a Steven King book reading and see how stupid it sounds.

If Steven King was attacked by a creepy clown I would have no sympathy for him at all


You've heard of The Eagles, right. farmboy?

Tequila Sunrise?

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 05:29 PM
Don't you mean when you hear it? No, because we've established that the lyrics must be read to be understood.




If Steven King was attacked by a creepy clown I would have no sympathy for him at all

Of course, but why would you attack him in the first place?



Tequila Sunrise?

Yes, now picture the Tequila Sunrise of death metal.
Perhaps you should learn at least something about the subjects you comment on.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 05:33 PM
Making bad music in the past or the persona you put out does not preclude one's music from being good.

"Hand in pocket" and "You oughta know" are excellent songs.

Two words: Glen Ballard.

Jean-Paul Sartre
3rd June 18, 07:07 PM
Two words: Glen Ballard.

So, like tens of thousands of award winning artists, she found a good collaborator / partner / muse before achieving success?

Deplorable.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 10:37 PM
Take away GB and you have an insipid, talentless, horse-faced chick who sounds like donkeys fucking.
Other than that, she's awesome.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 11:30 PM
Jesus H Christ, I had forgotten how shitty her screetching is.
Her voice should be used instead of waterboarding.
GFW-WfuX2Dk

Jean-Paul Sartre
3rd June 18, 11:50 PM
Take away GB and you have an insipid, talentless, horse-faced chick who sounds like donkeys fucking.
Other than that, she's awesome.

Please show the court on the doll where the evil singer touched you.

MerkinMuffly
3rd June 18, 11:58 PM
Please show the court on the doll where the evil singer touched you.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GpkIm9oj6aE/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjbg723nLnbAhWEhFQKHYoZASsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGp kIm9oj6aE&psig=AOvVaw1VVqd9-KQ50wLv5DsWHjYF&ust=1528174659521127)
It was less of a touch and more of a rape.

Jean-Paul Sartre
4th June 18, 10:06 AM
LOL. Touche'

I do like some of her songs. Some music experts agree with me. I think she won like 5 Grammys.

But, to each his own.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GpkIm9oj6aE/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjbg723nLnbAhWEhFQKHYoZASsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGp kIm9oj6aE&psig=AOvVaw1VVqd9-KQ50wLv5DsWHjYF&ust=1528174659521127)
It was less of a touch and more of a rape.

Üser Friendly
4th June 18, 02:36 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GpkIm9oj6aE/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjbg723nLnbAhWEhFQKHYoZASsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGp kIm9oj6aE&psig=AOvVaw1VVqd9-KQ50wLv5DsWHjYF&ust=1528174659521127)
It was less of a touch and more of a rape.

Dressed as you were in bepatched sleeveless jeans jacket over black leather biker jacket, you were clearly asking for it

Music slut

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
4th July 18, 10:09 AM
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36641619_2236825529667956_777314489878970368_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=0a8aaf094e57dbffe739b9221c9a1c07&oe=5BA6933B

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
29th July 18, 08:15 AM
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MerkinMuffly
29th July 18, 02:34 PM
Why didn't he just eat the baby?

Üser Friendly
29th July 18, 02:52 PM
It was a small baby

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
29th July 18, 06:43 PM
Why didn't he just eat the baby?

Probably cant affoard a deep fat frier

Jean-Paul Sartre
17th August 18, 08:27 AM
Train your kids!

Two North Carolina children got ahold of a gun and fatally shot a man police said was assaulting and strangling their mother.

During the attack, Steven Kelley, 46, said he was going to cut the throat of Chandra Nierman, his girlfriend, and kill everyone in the home, the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office said.

Police said Nierman’s 12-year-old son obtained a gun, and her 15-year-old daughter used it to shoot Kelley in the chest twice.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/16/north-carolina-kids-fatally-shoot-man-abusing-their-mother-police-say.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Interna l+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29

Üser Friendly
17th August 18, 08:43 AM
Girl Power

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th August 18, 10:34 AM
During the attack, Steven Kelley, 46, said he was going to cut the throat of Chandra Nierman, his girlfriend, and kill everyone in the home, the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office said.



Well they would say that.

Üser Friendly
17th August 18, 12:12 PM
I wouldn't get too smug, n0b, a cursory google search brings up loads of tragic accidents involving kids and guns

https://www.google.ie/search?q=child+shoots+sibling&oq=child+shoots+sibling&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j5j0.19905j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Jean-Paul Sartre
17th August 18, 02:02 PM
I wouldn't get too smug, n0b, a cursory google search brings up loads of tragic accidents involving kids and guns

https://www.google.ie/search?q=child+shoots+sibling&oq=child+shoots+sibling&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j5j0.19905j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Yes, UNTRAINED kids. It should be a school class. Firearms safety.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th August 18, 04:43 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39403752_1149242951894301_2791207213111181312_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=03710217a7b44eef059102da9bba7d2d&oe=5C09379A

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th August 18, 05:43 PM
This is a good thing about America....

Baphomet statue: How Satanic worshippers are using a goat-headed creature against conservative Arkansas Christians (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baphomet-satanic-temple-arkansas-beliefs-little-rock-jason-rapert-statue-ten-commandments-a8496726.html)

They're getting there!

Perfect timing too, the creation of a Religious Liberty Task Force is underway to protect it!

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
26th August 18, 01:39 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40219641_478373315974713_5999545043034046464_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=c946e68137545f09e9d6d39d2624c1b4&oe=5C39DBF2

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
25th October 18, 02:23 PM
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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
2nd November 18, 04:27 PM
Onward Christian Soldiers! (https://www.spokesman.com/documents/2018/oct/25/biblical-basis-war/?fbclid=IwAR3JzAzAyTTYF5TeCLWz5C2azm-q9Z9miYAZTDV4_8-PiEJb5rOIYNV0mfc)

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
7th June 19, 01:11 PM
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Robot Jesus
7th June 19, 02:31 PM
should have bought a grade C advantage plan.

Jean-Paul Sartre
7th June 19, 07:46 PM
should have bought a grade C advantage plan.

I get immediate doctor's visits, (no waiting) no co-pays, everything is covered, dental, vision, for $200 a month for wife and 3 kids.

Robot Jesus
8th June 19, 12:21 AM
your not 65, I only really know about medicare.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
12th June 19, 12:30 PM
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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
31st July 19, 03:40 AM
No honestly we dont have a problem. (https://amp.insider.com/mass-shootings-in-the-us-weekend-of-july-26-28-2019-7)

Jean-Paul Sartre
31st July 19, 04:12 PM
Not at all. Not with guns anyway. With violence / mental health, sure.

Üser Friendly
1st August 19, 03:10 AM
Mental health+violence+guns=problem

Cullion
1st August 19, 01:28 PM
Clean minds for a clean world. We've got to make America safe for automatic weapons.

Jean-Paul Sartre
2nd August 19, 11:44 AM
Clean minds for a clean world. We've got to make America safe for automatic weapons.

Not just guns. I want an America so mentally healthy that each of my neighbors could have a tactical nuke and I wouldn't be afraid.

Üser Friendly
2nd August 19, 04:52 PM
America

Where your mental health is judged by how big your gun is

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
5th August 19, 11:48 AM
is "soft targets" American for humans?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
5th August 19, 12:00 PM
.....Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the federal ban period (relative rate, 0.30; 95% confidence interval, 0.22-0.39).

CONCLUSION: Mass-shooting related homicides in the United States were reduced during the years of the federal assault weapons ban of 1994 to 2004.

"Changes in US mass shooting deaths associated with the 1994-2004 federal assault weapons ban: Analysis of open-source data." - DiMaggio et al 2019 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30188421)

Cullion
5th August 19, 12:24 PM
Mass shooting deaths were down, but violent crime overall hit all-time highs in that period

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U0YlrTTCYi550Z4py1MNVenNt-E1oi5vqbMX2nSIAvMVfGW-XDI9VOPjUOa9wKI7fnxsoWyv7kLrHKfJg7iMGIpDNvNC99uBoQ XMbuTEqsqTzvYVcBkSKamYcIRn7E0bTHAFop3w

The real problem is that large numbers of Americans live in relatively paranoid, isolated micro-societies with poor mental health and culturally reinforced messages about anger and retribution as righteous motives. From what I've seen in silicon valley Americans barely eat lunch together, much less form the kind of long-term workplace friendships normal for Asians and Europeans.

Their murder rate was way higher than the UK's 120 years ago when you could buy pretty much any firearm you wanted in the UK too. This society doesn't need a heavily armed remote bureaucracy kicking in doors and doing exactly what the people who wrote the 2nd amendment wrote it to prevent. They need a big hug.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
5th August 19, 02:04 PM
https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/Image/2018/semiautomatic_rifles_graphic_d.png

Data Confirm Semiautomatic Rifles Linked to More Deaths, Injuries. (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/data-confirm-semiautomatic-rifles-linked-to-more-deaths-injuries/)

Cullion
5th August 19, 03:57 PM
If you pick only one type of incident, you're not making a good point. Thats why your last post about the relatively tiny incidence of mass shootings missed the broader picture with violent crime.

Americans need guns to protect themselves from crazier americans.

'Active shooter' incident stats dont show you how many hot burglaries were prevented.

Üser Friendly
6th August 19, 03:20 AM
The assault rifle issue is a red herring

More people are killed with pistols day to day

Cullion
6th August 19, 04:32 AM
Most of the shootings in the US are due to urban gang violence.

Üser Friendly
6th August 19, 06:02 AM
It's pretty easy to get a rifle or shotgun here. You just need to join a gu club or have land that needs vermin control

There just isn't a culture of showing off guns or carrying them around openly, despite the violent history of the armed struggle and the troubles

The guards intervene quickly if anyone missuses legal fire arms

However, gun ownership here is not a right but a privalige which does help keep guns out of the hands of nut jobs

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
6th August 19, 07:12 AM
If you pick only one type of incident, you're not making a good point. Thats why your last post about the relatively tiny incidence of mass shootings missed the broader picture with violent crime.

If that was the point I was making then I'd agree but it wasn't. There is a very vocal part of the debate that claims that ANY prohibition is a step too far yet the stats clearly show that SOME prohibition has a positive outcome.

Cullion
6th August 19, 11:54 AM
A positive outcome *for one type of incident*. You aren't doing a net benefit analysis, you just *think* you are.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
6th August 19, 01:54 PM
I never mentioned *net benefit analysis* because I wasn't talking about *net benefit analysis*

Now be off with you & your *strawman*

Cullion
6th August 19, 02:27 PM
If you're not doing a net benefit analysis then you aren't demonstrating anything meaningful about the social impact of guns.

Cars are dangerous too, we could massively decrease the death rate in car accidents by banning them. That doesn't mean we should.

Americans not going to be any more successful about stopping guns coming into their country than they are at stopping cocaine or alcohol with prohibition. When you take their guns away the stats show that the violent criminals win.

If you want to reduce their demand for guns you need to give them love, not rules.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
7th August 19, 02:48 AM
If you're not doing a net benefit analysis then you aren't demonstrating anything meaningful about the social impact of guns.

Nonsense


Cars are dangerous too, we could massively decrease the death rate in car accidents by banning them. That doesn't mean we should.

SOME cars are banned duhhhh!!!



If you want to reduce their demand for guns you need to give them love, not rules.

Have you ever heard of The Avielle Foundation? (https://aviellefoundation.org/)

Cullion
7th August 19, 03:22 AM
Nonsense

It's not nonsense, it's obvious. If having guns in US society prevents more deaths than they cause, thats very relevant



SOME cars are banned duhhhh!!!

Porsches aren't banned despite there being an obvious correlation between speed at impact and fatality rate.



Have you ever heard of The Avielle Foundation? (https://aviellefoundation.org/)

No. But that's the kind of thing needed, not new laws door-kicking swat teams

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
7th August 19, 03:32 AM
Porsches aren't banned despite there being an obvious correlation between speed at impact and fatality rate.

Errrmm... the 1992 Porsche Carrera 911 RS (964) is banned in the US

Üser Friendly
14th August 19, 01:35 PM
A tyrant in charge of the US military isn't going to be put off by a few Red Knecks with M4's

Jean-Paul Sartre
14th August 19, 02:32 PM
A mass shooter isn't going to be put off by an assault weapons ban.

Fixed.

Cullion
14th August 19, 04:30 PM
A tyrant in charge of the US military isn't going to be put off by a few Red Knecks with M4's

The US military has a lot of rednecks with gun-owning civilian immediate family in it. If they struggle in Vietnam or Afghanistan, you can bet your life they'd have a harder time on home soil when half the soldiers were revolting against orders they thought were unconstitutional.

Üser Friendly
15th August 19, 02:24 PM
A cursory look at tyranies around the world reveals that there are plenty of folk that will support a tyrant

You just need the correct motivation

Cullion
16th August 19, 01:27 PM
Name a tyrant who didn't disarm the general population.

Üser Friendly
16th August 19, 06:10 PM
Julius Ceasar

Cullion
17th August 19, 08:18 PM
It was illegal to carry weapons within the boundaries of Rome itself and slaves were often forbidden from carrying weapons (obv didn't apply to gladitorial slaves).

Üser Friendly
21st August 19, 03:08 PM
Perhaps you would share your source for this claim

Harpy
22nd August 19, 01:27 AM
He was there you fool.

Cullion
22nd August 19, 02:03 AM
Julius Caesar's Conquest of Gaul is one source that mentions traditional prohibitions against entering Rome armed. There was a religious boundary around the city, the crossing of which with a weapon was an act of sacrilege.

Üser Friendly
22nd August 19, 09:37 AM
You over state the religious prohibitions and seem to be claiming Ceasar instigated the prohibitions on weopon in certain areas of Rome

Moreover it was permisible to carry clubs for self defence and weopons for hunting

So not Ceasar disarming the citizenry to further his tyranical agenda

Cullion
23rd August 19, 08:15 AM
You over state the religious prohibitions and seem to be claiming Ceasar instigated the prohibitions on weopon in certain areas of Rome

No I didn't



Moreover it was permisible to carry clubs for self defence and weopons for hunting

So not Ceasar disarming the citizenry to further his tyranical agenda

I didn't say it was; he didn't need to because the urban populace was already disarmed.

Üser Friendly
24th August 19, 03:02 AM
Only in religious precincts or certain classes of slave

The general population were allowed, obliged in some cases to bear arms

Try again

Cullion
24th August 19, 06:04 PM
The city of Rome proper was a religious precinct. Read Caesar's 'Gallic Wars'.

Üser Friendly
25th August 19, 07:16 AM
Meh

Does the book you refer to explain how Julius Ceasar disarmed the plebs to tighten his grip on power?

You could argue that Pompey did however

Cullion
26th August 19, 04:47 AM
Caesar didn't need to disarm the plebs. You missed that part again ?

Üser Friendly
26th August 19, 08:49 AM
Name a tyrant who didn't disarm the general population.

So are you saying Julius Ceasar did not disarm the general poulation?

Cullion
26th August 19, 05:43 PM
They were already disarmed, you're completely missing the point.