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resolve
24th February 16, 09:37 PM
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NoBowie
24th February 16, 10:38 PM
Don't care. Unwanted babies are the root of almost all societal ills.

Showing / explaining later in term abortions to impressionable idiot teens could scare them into avoiding first term or even morning after solutions to unwanted children.

MerkinMuffly
24th February 16, 11:50 PM
Flush it out before it develops a nervous system. Something without a nervous system is not a person.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to fapping to resolves video.

Feryk
25th February 16, 01:49 PM
Pretty much. Also, morning after pills. Not hard.

resolve
25th February 16, 06:46 PM
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resolve
25th February 16, 06:47 PM
Don't care. Unwanted babies are the root of almost all societal ills.


Do as I say, not as I do?

Harpy
25th February 16, 06:48 PM
resolve - what do you propose we do with all the child refugees globally? The orphans, the unwanted, the used and abused?

You are being impractical and callous in the name of 'eternal life'.

resolve
25th February 16, 06:50 PM
resolve - what do you propose we do with all the child refugees globally? The orphans, the unwanted, the used and abused?

There are many many solutions that aren't even being considered, because they actually require a bit of effort and compassion.


You are being impractical and callous in the name of 'eternal life'.

That doesn't even make sense >___>; Lily pls.

Cullion
25th February 16, 06:53 PM
I don't see why the rules suddenly change when they pass through the vagina. There are a lot of unwanted children who made it past the bastard-catcher who we could still 'help', if it weren't for all you anti-euthenasia bleeding hearts.

NoBowie
25th February 16, 06:58 PM
I don't see why the rules suddenly change when they pass through the vagina. There are a lot of unwanted children who made it past the bastard-catcher who we could still 'help', if it weren't for all you anti-euthenasia bleeding hearts.

At that point the state needs to take them away. And that's expensive. Which is why I like to think about tackling the other side of things.

Cullion
25th February 16, 07:04 PM
At that point the state needs to take them away.

Why? Why not just throw them into a huge blender?

NoBowie
25th February 16, 08:38 PM
Babies don't make good Pate'.

Harpy
25th February 16, 09:06 PM
Not hard.You can get help for this.

Harpy
25th February 16, 09:16 PM
Ways to get rid of unborn babies:
1) ICY method
2) Princess Diana manoeuvre
3) Judo
4) ingesting dishwasher liquid
5) add to the list!!

MerkinMuffly
25th February 16, 11:02 PM
1) ICY method
2) Princess Diana manoeuvre
3) Judo
4) ingesting dishwasher liquid

5) “Give them, O LORD–what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” (Hosea 9:14)

6) Then the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act),and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

“‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

7)The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

8)At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16)

Feryk
26th February 16, 11:09 AM
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Disingenuous. It's called the 'Morning After' pill because you take it RIGHT AFTER. Not four months later, dipshit.

NoBowie
26th February 16, 11:11 AM
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Feryk
26th February 16, 11:24 AM
Then she sinned. A LOT. And often. And, really, very, very well.

resolve
27th February 16, 07:33 PM
Disingenuous. It's called the 'Morning After' pill because you take it RIGHT AFTER. Not four months later, dipshit.

You know for someone tossing names around like that you sure are full of it. At no point did he call it a morning after. He's talking about the chemical abortion performed up to 9 weeks of pregnancy (first trimester) in the first video NOT the morning after pill that is taken to prevent any embryos (fertilized eggs) from attaching to the lining of the uterus which starts development of pregnancy in the first place.

I bet you didn't even watch the video, which in fact would make YOU the disingenuous one. Come with teeth next time you want to argue this stuff and start being a jerk to people.

Harpy
27th February 16, 08:15 PM
Can one accept Jesus to be their one true saviour and be washed clean of their abortions?

Harpy
27th February 16, 08:16 PM
Because I see a great conversion opportunity right after the procedure.

resolve
27th February 16, 08:39 PM
Can one accept Jesus to be their one true saviour and be washed clean of their abortions?

One of my really good friends used to be super slutty in high school because of many issues in her life. She used abortions as birth control. She was later raped but tried to keep the baby at that time though she had a miscarriage due to complications from the abortions.

After wandering from one life mistake to the other she later fully repented and started following God. The difference in who she was and who she became was literally night and day. She got married and now has 3 great kids that she loves very much. She confessed to me once that of all the things she did in her life the thing she regretted the most was the abortions, because she'd never get to know those children and the people they'd become.

The saddest part of her story was how her family rejected her after she became a christian. She decided that she needed to start being a good daughter and tried to resolve things peacefully in her family and started doing chores and housework. Her mom freaked out on her one day saying that she was a different person and wanted the old her back. She said the old her was a terrible person who would've kept on making mistakes and poor life decisions and the mom responded with "But at least the old you belonged to me!" Her brother who was really into some dark occult ideas and heavy drug use started harassing her more and more when she started to get "preachy" (she was a new christian, and temperance needs to be learned) and eventually threw her down the stairs when she came running to my family for help. Her father was alluded to being abusive as well.

But like I said she eventually got out of that and turned her life around and God gave her such immense strength to do it, and He took away her sin and bore it on the cross, so that she could become reborn and become more, better, whole. You should see how happy she is now and how much joy she has. It's amazing.

Harpy
27th February 16, 10:01 PM
I'm glad to hear she's happy. However 'wanting to know' the aborted children is a fantasy. They would most likely have been unwanted and neglected given the state of her life at the time.

They must have been fortunate souls who didn't have to be born into this world just yet.

MerkinMuffly
27th February 16, 11:13 PM
One of my really good friends used to be super slutty in high school because of many issues in her life. She used abortions as birth control. She was later raped but tried to keep the baby at that time though she had a miscarriage due to complications from the abortions.

After wandering from one life mistake to the other she later fully repented and started following God. The difference in who she was and who she became was literally night and day. She got married and now has 3 great kids that she loves very much. She confessed to me once that of all the things she did in her life the thing she regretted the most was the abortions, because she'd never get to know those children and the people they'd become.

The saddest part of her story was how her family rejected her after she became a christian. She decided that she needed to start being a good daughter and tried to resolve things peacefully in her family and started doing chores and housework. Her mom freaked out on her one day saying that she was a different person and wanted the old her back. She said the old her was a terrible person who would've kept on making mistakes and poor life decisions and the mom responded with "But at least the old you belonged to me!" Her brother who was really into some dark occult ideas and heavy drug use started harassing her more and more when she started to get "preachy" (she was a new christian, and temperance needs to be learned) and eventually threw her down the stairs when she came running to my family for help. Her father was alluded to being abusive as well.

But like I said she eventually got out of that and turned her life around and God gave her such immense strength to do it, and He took away her sin and bore it on the cross, so that she could become reborn and become more, better, whole. You should see how happy she is now and how much joy she has. It's amazing. Y'all motherfuckers need Jaysus!

Harpy
28th February 16, 12:00 AM
There are many many solutions that aren't even being considered, because they actually require a bit of effort and compassion.
How wonderful of you to want to add to the issue then.

There is a balance even with effort and compassion.

Üser Friendly
28th February 16, 04:53 AM
Don't Christians support old testament death penalties ?

It's ok to kill a woman who was raped, but not a group of cells?

Religioners are weird

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
28th February 16, 06:43 AM
Don't Christians support old testament death penalties ?

It's ok to kill a woman who was raped, but not a group of cells?

Religioners are weird

No its stranger than that, for the most part they believe in the New Covenant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant) which effectively means they get to pick & choose which parts to believe in as suits their own particular blend of psychosis.

Üser Friendly
28th February 16, 07:21 AM
Until a bigger bunch turn up with teh r34l truth and kill all the rest as heretics of coarse

resolve
28th February 16, 08:54 AM
Don't Christians support old testament death penalties ?

It's ok to kill a woman who was raped


That is nowhere in the Bible.

There is the stoning of willing adulterers, and the "Skeptic's annotated Bible" say Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is about rape, which is really stretching things to absurdity since it is obviously about adultery in plain reading and both the man and woman are stoned.

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As for what christians support in the Old Testament (and the Dr. has it somewhat right, although please don't link to Wikipedia for religious theology, the moderators of that source are extremely leftist to the absurd... although it does provide a good breakdown of different denominational beliefs):

What's interesting is Gentiles (anyone who's not a Hebrew), even those who were living in Israel, were not required to adhere to the entire Mosaic law. They were simply required to follow the Noahide laws (the things that are exegetically derived from Genesis, which are nearly the same as the 10 commandments, ie: Natural Law) to be considered "righteous among the nations".

According to christian theology God chose the Hebrews to accomplish His work of salvation for the entire world through them via Jesus. The law is thus partitioned:
- How to worship God.
- How to atone for sin (the sacrificial system).
- How to be physically clean (washing and what foods that aren't full of parasites and infections to eat).
- How to be ritually clean so as to be distinct from the pagan nations (clothing rules, tattoos, et cetera).
- How to deal with the rest of the ancient world's systems, to again... be different (such as slavery, trade, farming, et cetera).
- Various punishments for different sins which demonstrate the truth that the wages of sin is death, without causing mass disruption to the society, which happened anyways because...

The Hebrews within a few generations cast aside God and His law and were quickly conquered by pagans since they were always militarily weak and in their own histories they reveal that without God they would have been utterly destroyed over and over again. There was a short revival and return from diaspora a few times, which is where a lot of the prophetic books come from, but ultimately once the world stage was set God fulfilled His promises to the patriarchs and David by coming into the earth through their flesh.

The importance of this cannot be diminished. The Old Testament law is a unit. Either all of it applies or none of it applies "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it." (James 2:10). Jesus fulfilled the Hebraic law through His sacrifice. What He left behind was a return to the original natural law, with grace in His mediation between man and God.

Ultimately it can be broken down by what Jesus said when asked about the law:


And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.

And to dig deeper you can read Galatians 15-29:


To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not!

For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law,imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

Üser Friendly
28th February 16, 10:58 AM
so it's OK to kill willing adulteresses?

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
28th February 16, 02:22 PM
so it's OK to kill willing adulteresses?

Only if you covet their arse.

MerkinMuffly
28th February 16, 03:42 PM
Don't Christians support old testament death penalties ? Yes, yes they do, but not the revisionist Christians who defy the words of Jesus.


It's ok to kill a woman who was raped, but not a group of cells?

Young women who were raped were forced to marry their rapists. (deuteronomy 22:29)
There are passages in the Bible where women's bellies are ripped open for defying God.
There is also a bitter water abortion recipe for adulterous women.
Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life.
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/21.html#22) The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/27.html#6) Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons. Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/3.html#15) God sometimes approves of killing fetuses. And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html#15)
(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.) Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/9.html#14) Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/9.html#16) Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/13.html#16) God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents. Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2sam/12.html#14) God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives. The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/5.html#21) God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant women. Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/38.html#24)

Harpy
28th February 16, 07:00 PM
You could have shortened that considerably. Whore.

MerkinMuffly
28th February 16, 07:22 PM
Begone, devil woman!

Harpy
28th February 16, 08:04 PM
I'm sorry :/ I just really wanted to call you a whore.

Is there a punishment for name calling in the Bible?

Harpy
28th February 16, 08:05 PM
HEY!!! Why does my name tag say Gold digger??!!!

MerkinMuffly
28th February 16, 08:12 PM
I'm sorry :/ I just really wanted to call you a whore.

Is there a punishment for name calling in the Bible?

Ask the 42 kids God ripped to shreds using only two trained circus bears.

Üser Friendly
29th February 16, 02:29 AM
Thanks Reese

I knew you'd hear the clarion call and get your bible out

MerkinMuffly
29th February 16, 02:39 AM
I know most of the porn in the "good" book by heart.

I would think you would at least have memorized the references to bestiality.

Üser Friendly
29th February 16, 08:05 AM
When i say bible I mean todger

Feryk
29th February 16, 01:07 PM
You know for someone tossing names around like that you sure are full of it. At no point did he call it a morning after. He's talking about the chemical abortion performed up to 9 weeks of pregnancy (first trimester) in the first video NOT the morning after pill that is taken to prevent any embryos (fertilized eggs) from attaching to the lining of the uterus which starts development of pregnancy in the first place.

I bet you didn't even watch the video, which in fact would make YOU the disingenuous one. Come with teeth next time you want to argue this stuff and start being a jerk to people.

Actually I did watch the first few minutes of the video - but I was incorrect. RU-486 is NOT the morning after pill. They are two different things. Something of which I was not aware.

I stand corrected on this point.

As an aside, what is your stance on the morning after pill? Does that count as abortion?

Üser Friendly
29th February 16, 02:30 PM
See NoB, Dr

Ferky shows his strength of character by admitting when he is wrong

Good show Ferky!

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
29th February 16, 02:36 PM
Maybe you should follow his lead.

I've admitted being wrong on the rare occasions that it happens. You just dont notice because when we are arguing I'm always right.

Feryk
29th February 16, 03:34 PM
If I'm wrong, and resolve showed I was, I will admit it. I learned something today - which is never bad.

Üser Friendly
1st March 16, 01:56 AM
Maybe you should follow his lead.

OK

I admit

I was wrong

You are a fagot

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
1st March 16, 04:15 AM
OK

I admit

I am that predictable.

NoBowie
14th June 17, 11:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/TFBgMQd.gif

MerkinMuffly
15th June 17, 12:10 AM
Resolve never got around to explaining why God aborts most pregnancies.
He's prolly busy 'researching' as we speak.

Steve
14th July 17, 05:49 AM
Resolve never got around to explaining why God aborts most pregnancies.
He's prolly busy 'researching' as we speak.

You thought about him masturbating - how many other people have you thought about while they were masturbating? Besides myself, of course.

MerkinMuffly
14th July 17, 01:16 PM
Just you, and josh as the meat in the sammich.