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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
11th November 15, 11:07 AM
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Stan Goff (b. November 12, 1951 in San Diego, California) is an American anti-war activist, writer, and blogger. Prior to his activism Goff had a long career in the U.S. armed forces, serving in the United States Army from 1970 to 1996 with two breaks in service. After retiring from the military he became a political activist, adopting anti-imperialist, feminist, and socialist/Marxist views, and is now a Christian. He is an active blogger and is the author of several books, including Hideous Dream (2000), Full-Spectrum Disorder: The Military in the New American Century (2004) Energy War (2006), Sex & War (2006), and Borderline - Reflections on War, Sex, and Church (2015).[1] He has also been a contributor to CounterPunch and Huffington Post

Stan Goff - wiki entry. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Goff)

What a guy? :D

Jebus be praised!!

MerkinMuffly
11th November 15, 01:42 PM
Oh, anecdotal evidence. NoB will be along shortly to give a pro-imperialist war speech, replete with Reagan references.

Cullion
11th November 15, 03:02 PM
If it wasn't for Reagan paving the way, there would be no President Schwarzenegger.

MerkinMuffly
11th November 15, 03:46 PM
If it wasn't for Reagan paving the way, there would be no President Schwarzenegger.

i thought you stopped drinking.

Cullion
11th November 15, 03:48 PM
Indeed, and I have not started again. But I am in touch with a source of truth.

MerkinMuffly
11th November 15, 03:56 PM
I'm watching you.

Feryk
13th November 15, 01:59 PM
He likes it when you watch.

MerkinMuffly
13th November 15, 03:09 PM
I usually don't wear them but I suppose I could buy one for his pleasure.

NoBowie
13th November 15, 03:14 PM
I am in touch with a source of truth.

Is it consensual?

Cullion
13th November 15, 04:40 PM
That isn't a question with a totally black and white answer.

NoBowie
13th November 15, 04:52 PM
I'm a switch (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=switch).

Cullion
13th November 15, 07:40 PM
context is everything

Syntactical Disruptorize
15th November 15, 12:17 PM
If it wasn't for Reagan paving the way, there would be no President Schwarzenegger.
I didn't know he was running, man.

MerkinMuffly
15th November 15, 12:54 PM
Now that hit the spot!

Feryk
16th November 15, 04:34 PM
I didn't know he was running, man.

He'll be back.

MerkinMuffly
16th November 15, 09:58 PM
Only in a rerun

Üser Friendly
17th November 15, 01:55 AM
Fuck you ass hole

Pie of Hate
17th November 15, 05:09 AM
Fuck a goat's ass hole

I don't remember him saying that. What film is it from?

Üser Friendly
17th November 15, 05:58 AM
He's from Austria

You know, home of yodeling, buxom milk maids and goat rape

Cullion
17th November 15, 03:23 PM
you always take a good, clean thing and make it about fucking animals.

Üser Friendly
17th November 15, 03:31 PM
you always take a good, clean thing and make it about fucking animals.

if you were a goat I'd fuck you

NoBowie
17th November 15, 03:41 PM
you always take a good, clean thing and make it about fucking animals.

http://i.imgur.com/6o6zYiv.jpg

Üser Friendly
17th November 15, 03:54 PM
^ Prince as a horse

Pie of Hate
18th November 15, 04:15 AM
The horse formally known as prince as a horse.

resolve
21st November 15, 09:53 AM
After retiring from the military he became a political activist, adopting anti-imperialist, feminist, and socialist/Marxist views, and is now a Christian.

According to the scriptures fundamentally christian society should be anti military empire, pro "Christ empire" (spreading the gospel as much as possible so as many as possible can be saved), pro equalization of sexes under God and socially while also pro traditional family (husband is the head of the household and must lead), pro freedom to the extreme except where it may cause oneself or another to stumble in their walk with God (so humility and modesty are encouraged out of concern for others' spiritual states and so they are not mastered by sin but free of its power), and pro socialist in how people are provided for while not trying to reform/take over the powers that be but trying to reform society from the ground up through christian living and spread of the gospel.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
21st November 15, 10:49 AM
...... pro equalization of sexes under God and socially while also pro traditional family (husband is the head of the household and must lead).......

LOL

Üser Friendly
21st November 15, 01:25 PM
pro freedom but slaves obey your masters

Cullion
21st November 15, 02:08 PM
pro socialist in how people are provided for.

A lot of young Christians in the UK think this way, to the extent that they leap to the defence of pretty much any state benefit or welfare program that looks like it will be reduced or repealed, because they believe that by doing so they are demonstrating Christian compassion.

I think compassion is what you do for others yourself, with your own time and money, not what you make a big show of complaining about the state doing or not doing with other people's tax money.

When talking to these Christians one on one they also, to a man, seem to have been unaware of the existence of this verse in the New Testament


For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

And are offended by the very suggestion that some people are on welfare because they are simply extremely lazy. Being on welfare in the UK is a way of getting housed and fed whilst contributing absolutely nothing back to the community around you.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
22nd November 15, 06:26 AM
Yeah they seem less concerned with..


Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

..as well.

Üser Friendly
22nd November 15, 07:34 AM
http://2tzms222h2ff3dfce824gngnno8.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2014/10/Belief-in-God.png

resolve
22nd November 15, 03:55 PM
LOL



His first miracle was performed in response to a plea from His mother (John 2:1-11).
His first revelation of Himself as Messiah was to a woman (John 4:25- 26).
His greatest miracle was performed at the request of two women (John 11:1-44).
His death was memorialized by a woman (John 12:1-8).
Women were included in His expanded group of disciples (Mark 15:41).
Women stayed with Him throughout His crucifixion, even after the men had left (Matthew 27:55-56).
Women observed His burial (Matthew 27:61).
Following His resurrection, He appeared first to a woman (John 20:1- 16).
He commissioned women as the very first evangelists (Matthew 28:1- 10; John 20:17).
Women were included in the group of disciples who met daily for prayer after the ascension of Jesus (Acts 1:14).
Ancient prophecy was fulfilled when the Spirit of God was given equally to men and women at Pentecost (Acts 2:17).
Women were among the very first “believers” or “Christians” who made up the early church (Acts 5:14; Acts 8:12; 17:4, 12).
The first church in Europe was begun with a group of women and actually met in the home of a woman (Acts 16:13-15).
The early church was staffed by many women (Romans 16:12, Philippians 4:3).
At least one early church was co-led by a woman (1 Corinthians 16:19).

In certain instances Jesus referred to the non-gender of God by speaking of both His male and female attributes (since both are image bearers of God). We already know about the male ones so here's some female ones: Jesus referred to God as a female householder finding her lost coin (Luke 15:8-10), to himself as a mother hen (Matthew 23:37) and to the Holy Spirit as a woman giving birth (John 3:5-6).These are obvious allegories, but also fit into the narrative that God is male via being a Father/progenitor of creation.


In regards to your insinuation that:
"pro equalization of sexes under God and socially while also pro traditional family (husband is the head of the household and must lead)"
is mutually exclusive you misunderstand what is being said. One of the consequences of the sinful fall was that women would be "ruled over" by men. Understand the difference between being ruled over and being led. It's a pretty big difference. There is also the very basic fact that on the whole women hold great contempt for men who cannot lead in a relationship. Why do you think that is? Not because they are seeking to be ruled over by someone else, but because they are looking to follow someone who is worthy; someone who will enrich, not take away from, their lives. So a man must step up and become a leader in the household for the sake of the joy, establishment, and care of his wife. Eventually, once the earthly systems are done away with and the new order is established by God where all things are made new again, who knows what an even freer and more holistic version of that will look like? The Kingdom of God does not further establish the consequences of sin but frees people from sin's hold so that they may seek the original divine order. Think of the whole "He's my King. She's my Queen." thing taking hold in the christian african diaspora...

MerkinMuffly
22nd November 15, 04:51 PM
How many of the 12 apostles Jesus chose had vaginas?

MerkinMuffly
22nd November 15, 05:21 PM
1 Corinthians 11

11 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

Head Coverings

2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife[a (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28587a)] is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife[b (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28589b)] who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.[c (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28594c)] 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; 12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God. (Cover up, cunt)


1 Timothy chapter 2:



Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.(shut up, cunt)

John 20:17: Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (Don't touch me, you filthy cunt)
(A few verses later He lets a dude touch him.)


Are any of the elders in the book of Revelation women? No.
Are any of the books of the Bible written by women? No.

Harry Potter OTOH, treats women with respect and as equals.

You are following the wrong myth.

Üser Friendly
23rd November 15, 01:39 AM
The letters were just opinion pieces by Paul

He had no empirical evidence to support them

http://www.dovesandserpents.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2014-01-04-hymns-chart-three.jpg

The Gnostics taught that Jesus had several female appostles, and that Mary Magdalene was head honcho

Of coarse they were brutally repressed as heretics by Father church

MerkinMuffly
23rd November 15, 01:50 AM
Did Jesus provide graphs?

Hell no.

resolve
23rd November 15, 01:54 AM
sIlNIVXpIns

MerkinMuffly
23rd November 15, 02:11 AM
toHTyHffgGs

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
23rd November 15, 05:06 AM
And now for a message from the Stone Age....



In regards to your insinuation that:
"pro equalization of sexes under God and socially while also pro traditional family (husband is the head of the household and must lead)"
is mutually exclusive you misunderstand what is being said. One of the consequences of the sinful fall was that women would be "ruled over" by men. Understand the difference between being ruled over and being led. It's a pretty big difference. There is also the very basic fact that on the whole women hold great contempt for men who cannot lead in a relationship. Why do you think that is? Not because they are seeking to be ruled over by someone else, but because they are looking to follow someone who is worthy; someone who will enrich, not take away from, their lives. So a man must step up and become a leader in the household for the sake of the joy, establishment, and care of his wife. Eventually, once the earthly systems are done away with and the new order is established by God where all things are made new again, who knows what an even freer and more holistic version of that will look like? The Kingdom of God does not further establish the consequences of sin but frees people from sin's hold so that they may seek the original divine order. Think of the whole "He's my King. She's my Queen." thing taking hold in the christian african diaspora...

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Feryk
23rd November 15, 12:43 PM
1 Corinthians 11

11 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

Head Coverings

2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife[a (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28587a)] is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife[b (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28589b)] who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.[c (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11&version=ESV#fen-ESV-28594c)] 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; 12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God. (Cover up, cunt)


1 Timothy chapter 2:



Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.(shut up, cunt)

John 20:17: Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (Don't touch me, you filthy cunt)
(A few verses later He lets a dude touch him.)


Are any of the elders in the book of Revelation women? No.
Are any of the books of the Bible written by women? No.

Harry Potter OTOH, treats women with respect and as equals.

You are following the wrong myth.

These passages were what the church I attended for four years started to try and implement. My wife and I left over it because she stood up in the church to give her testimony - but wasn't wearing a head covering - and people gave her shit for it.

Fuck Corinthians. Seriously.

Cullion
23rd November 15, 05:05 PM
These passages were what the church I attended for four years started to try and implement. My wife and I left over it because she stood up in the church to give her testimony - but wasn't wearing a head covering - and people gave her shit for it.

Fuck Corinthians. Seriously.

you got off lightly. i'd be a lot more careful in a mosque.

Üser Friendly
24th November 15, 01:09 AM
Aren't men and women segregated in a mosque?

Pie of Hate
24th November 15, 04:10 AM
Lots of mosques here broadcast the services so women don't even need to leave the house. How considerate is that!

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
24th November 15, 04:49 AM
they blame pigs as well

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
24th November 15, 05:03 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11987169_440811352786462_7133290217076155544_n.jpg ?oh=b4f370db256fde70b03d631632f0e71d&oe=56AC44DE

Pie of Hate
24th November 15, 05:44 AM
they blame pigs as well

Camels should share the blame too but the muzzies swindled it so it's meat is clean all of a sudden.

Üser Friendly
24th November 15, 10:55 AM
Pig hating cunts

NoBowie
24th November 15, 11:54 AM
^pig fucking pervs

Feryk
24th November 15, 11:59 AM
you got off lightly. i'd be a lot more careful in a mosque.

It turned me off of all organized religious institutions. Frankly, I loathe them all. I'd rather spend Sundays sleeping in.

Syntactical Disruptorize
24th November 15, 12:18 PM
Well, if there's one thing I can say for pagans, it's that we're not organized.

Feryk
24th November 15, 03:03 PM
You had me at Venus.

Harpy
25th November 15, 05:59 AM
You had me at Venus.

Must. Not. Fix.

Harpy
25th November 15, 06:00 AM
Lots of mosques here broadcast the services so women don't even need to leave the kitchen. How considerate is that!
Very.

Feryk
25th November 15, 11:02 AM
Must. Not. Fix.

All good. I had you at 'had'.

NoBowie
25th November 15, 12:31 PM
Must. Not. Fix.

http://i.imgur.com/SknbZec.gif

Feryk
25th November 15, 06:35 PM
Had to go and make it creepy.