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Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
11th July 12, 04:55 PM
Tax-paying prostitutes in Sweden are entitled to sick pay, the country’s National Social Insurance Agency (Försäkringskassan) said this week. Although soliciting sex in the Nordic country is legal, it is still illegal to pay for sex. However, until now, authorities have failed to outline which social benefits are available to registered, tax-paying sex workers.
But this week national insurance officials issued a promise to define the rules more clearly.
Joakim Jarnryd said to Sveriges Radio on behalf of the country’s National Social Insurance Agency, “This situation has been considered to be a gray area, but I don’t think it should be. If you’re not doing anything illegal, I think it should be relatively clear”.
He added, “Prostitutes in this case are engaged in no illegal business and if this person has declared a legitimate income and has proof of a registration with the tax authorities, then we’ll treat this like any other economic operator.”
The lack of terms has led to a wealth of confusion in the system in recent years, and officials hope the changes will address such problems. Many prostitutes in the country currently register as body treatment and spa workers with tax officials, which makes processing benefits fairly confusing for social workers.
Pia Blank Thörnroos of the Swedish Tax Agency explained during the same Sveriges Radio programme how the scheme will work: “If someone has an income from the selling of sex then it’s taxable, as it’s legal to sell sex. We’ve solved it so that these people can submit their income declarations together with everyone else in May and report their incomes. If one wants to avoid arrears, the taxes can be paid at the tax office.”



From here. (http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2012/07/11/swedish-prostitutes-to-get-sick-pay/#ixzz20LyoXU4L)

Hows that for civilized?

Spade: The Real Snake
11th July 12, 05:03 PM
Well, at least we know Obama's endgame......

Feryk
11th July 12, 05:12 PM
It makes sense to me.

Spade: The Real Snake
11th July 12, 05:14 PM
The only thing less appetizing than a waitress with an open wound on her serving hand is a prostitute with an open wound on her serving _________________

Feryk
11th July 12, 05:18 PM
Yup. We want our whores nice n' healthy, thank you.

Harpy
11th July 12, 07:52 PM
Has anyone here actually procured the services of a prostitute? I'm curious and seriously wouldn't judge.

nihilist
11th July 12, 08:20 PM
Yeah but I didn't have to pay.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
11th July 12, 08:25 PM
she felt that sorry for you?

Harpy
11th July 12, 08:27 PM
Did you pick her up knowing her profession and willing to pay or outside her work hours?

nihilist
11th July 12, 08:50 PM
I knew her from before she became a pro.

nihilist
11th July 12, 09:00 PM
She looked almost exactly like Finola Hughes when she played in that horrid Staying Alive film.

Harpy
11th July 12, 09:03 PM
Did you sleep with her before or after? Because if it's before she turned tricks it doesn't count.

nihilist
11th July 12, 09:22 PM
After of course.

Feryk
12th July 12, 02:37 PM
Never paid for sex. Don't see a scenario where I would.

However, I do not believe it is immoral to do so. I think legalization makes sense, as well as regulation. Hell, I'm in favor of a sex trade workers union.

Being a whore should be like any other service being offered. Safe working conditions should be critical. A whore code of conduct should apply, too.

Lollius Urbicus
12th July 12, 03:26 PM
Indeed. I personally would probably not use the service, but its not like its going to go away. Its been with us for tenss of thousands of years.

Far better to legalize it, regulate it and ensure the girls have a structured working environment then make it illegal and push it into the hands of criminal gangs and the dangerous fringes of society.

Cullion
12th July 12, 05:26 PM
But if you legalise it then it won't be as exciting.

Lollius Urbicus
12th July 12, 06:09 PM
But if you legalise it then it won't be as exciting.
Legalize the selling, but don't legalize the buying. Then you can still get your thrill and heart pumping from handing over your hard earned fivers.

Hedley LaMarr
12th July 12, 06:44 PM
But if you legalise it then it won't be as exciting.
Prostitutes will just have to get better marketing. At the hardware store, they have popcorn to entice people to come in. I guess prostitutes should get jiffy pop.

Madgrenade
12th July 12, 06:58 PM
Yeah but I didn't have to pay.

I still don't think that counts. You haven't engaged in prostitution. You just fucked a buddy who happens to be a prostitute. She was probably glad of the no strings sex.

Cheque or no prozzie.

Madgrenade
12th July 12, 07:03 PM
Just so we are clear, no-one here, apart from Lebell, has ever paid for sex?

nihilist
12th July 12, 07:27 PM
The original question was 'have I ever engaged the services of a prostitute.'
She was a prostitute and I sure as hell engaged.

I actually have paid for sex though.

Harpy
12th July 12, 07:32 PM
Paid with money?

nihilist
12th July 12, 07:46 PM
Paid with money? In the incident I'm talking about, yeah.

I don't think my myriad cokewhore tales really count in this discussion.

Harpy
12th July 12, 07:51 PM
Cool.

nihilist
12th July 12, 07:55 PM
You may not think so if you heard the details.

Harpy
12th July 12, 07:58 PM
That's why I'm not asking nor trying to think about how you gave her the money and what not.

My bucket list needs updating.

nihilist
12th July 12, 08:41 PM
That's funny, you don't look Asian.

Harpy
12th July 12, 08:49 PM
NoB is a genius.

nihilist
12th July 12, 09:02 PM
lol

Spade: The Real Snake
12th July 12, 09:11 PM
I had never heard of someone throwing themselves into an Earthquake to be rid of a stalking John, before

Thx NoB

nihilist
12th July 12, 09:17 PM
Nob's dad's name is John?

Harpy
12th July 12, 09:19 PM
I'm getting to the stage where I'm thinking of getting a male escort. Do you get home delivery or does it have to go down at a motel?

nihilist
12th July 12, 09:26 PM
why you ask? is hubby going to be part of the magical cuckold experience?

Harpy
12th July 12, 09:28 PM
I was just kidding but I can understand why forced celibacy turns people crazy.

nihilist
12th July 12, 09:31 PM
You mean like when the sperm backs up so far into your brain that you actually thing God is taking time out of His busy schedule to advise you on what to do with your pathetic life?

nihilist
12th July 12, 09:31 PM
You mean THAT kind of crazy?

Spade: The Real Snake
12th July 12, 09:34 PM
In this thread you will offer up your SKYPE so Lilxzy might relieve stress

Harpy
12th July 12, 09:34 PM
I mean the kind of crazy that checks to see if their Visa has sufficient funds for a mid-range ho.

Harpy
12th July 12, 10:36 PM
What does it say about a man who makes his money from older women? I'm not sure though I think there are some positives when it comes to STDs.

Do you have to roll up the bills and tuck it into their g-string? I need some sort of whore-tiquette list for those with friends who have procured such services or GOD who is the only one game enough to be honest.

nihilist
12th July 12, 11:16 PM
Your mileage may vary.

AAAAAA
13th July 12, 03:00 AM
I feel for your friend, NoB.

Generalizing based on anecdotal experience: a Japanese woman can make you feel like you're with a princess compared to uncouth, loud western women; especially U.S. ladies are like the opposite.

oh and BTW I did pay for sex. I went with a street whore when I was 20, wasted drunk and just messily dumped by the then GF. It was the worst sex of my life and I felt like a slave exploiter, which was quite accurate.

Feryk
13th July 12, 11:30 AM
No, it has to do with her being the top of the pyramid at her chosen profession.

Sometimes, you get what you pay for.

Feryk
13th July 12, 11:31 AM
I mean the kind of crazy that checks to see if their Visa has sufficient funds for a mid-range ho.

The moral of NoB's story is: don't cheap out. Get the best you can afford.

Old rich women would know this.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
13th July 12, 11:54 AM
Your friend should try crack.

Hedley LaMarr
13th July 12, 11:57 AM
Your friend should try bath salts.

Feryk
13th July 12, 11:59 AM
The question is whether or not your friend could have a similar experience somewhere else for $1500? Or whether his standards have been raised so high that only $3000 will do?

Feryk
13th July 12, 12:05 PM
Ah, so. Perhaps your friend was lucky enough to find someone truly skilled in the arts of love. A true master of her craft.

I am sure that they are as rare as any other truly gifted artisan.

The only solution is to either give up, and believe that he has reached the pinnacle of sexual experience, or keep looking.

Feryk
13th July 12, 12:34 PM
So, option 1 then. I'd tell you i feel sorry for your friend, but I really can't.

Syntactical Disruptorize
14th July 12, 01:38 AM
How does one get sick pay when one is paid piece work and not wages?

Cullion
14th July 12, 06:58 AM
Possibly by basing your compensation on your average monthly contribution to the social insurance fund in question.

AAAAAA
14th July 12, 09:35 AM
You missed the whole point. My friend didn't find most of the Japanese women he had time to interact with sexually engaging at all. This had nothing to do with her being part Japanese.

In that case I expect your friend has found several non-Japanese examples of such skill at the same price point? Since we're being anecdotal.

Spade: The Real Snake
14th July 12, 10:19 PM
Strong Zero whores are strong for zeroes

Feryk
16th July 12, 10:49 AM
He's picking women by whichever ones will tolerate him.

AAAAAA
16th July 12, 01:14 PM
I don't have $1500 to spend on a whore so that level of professional excellence is out of my reach. I'll believe your friend when he says that her great skill as a whore was granted by a happy combination of hard work and natural talent. And I still feel for him.

He's not the first to fall in love with a whore, especially among the very wealthy and very lonely.

AAAAAA
16th July 12, 01:20 PM
He's picking women by whichever ones will tolerate him.

Well that depends on how much you pay them, that's the point of whores. Actresses, pardon.

Feryk
17th July 12, 12:00 PM
He's not the first to fall in love with a whore, especially among the very wealthy and very lonely.

If this happens, you are doing it (her) wrong.

FTR, I don't believe that NoB's friend fell in love. He was just really impressed, and now he's sad that his favorite flavor is off the shelf.

AAAAAA
17th July 12, 01:15 PM
If this happens, you are doing it (her) wrong.

FTR, I don't believe that NoB's friend fell in love. He was just really impressed, and now he's sad that his favorite flavor is off the shelf.

For some people that's "love"

Feryk
17th July 12, 02:02 PM
Those people are wrong. That is infatuation. Love is more.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
17th July 12, 02:16 PM
...expensive

Feryk
17th July 12, 02:34 PM
Indubitably. A wise friend of mine once told me, you don't pay the hooker for the sex. You pay them to go away.

nihilist
17th July 12, 09:51 PM
Q: What does the hooker say when you only pay her half?

"I think I've been raped."

jubei33
3rd December 12, 05:35 PM
Looks like all of that sick leave is working wonders.

Robot Jesus
3rd December 12, 06:27 PM
in Alberta oil companies usually take December 24 to January 1 off with pay without docking vacation days.

Robot Jesus
3rd December 12, 06:38 PM
Everyone gets that; from secretary and accounting clerk, to CEO.

Robot Jesus
3rd December 12, 07:48 PM
only if your in a company that directly profits from getting the oil out of the ground, oil service companies work their staff like rented mules.

jubei33
3rd December 12, 08:01 PM
I just have this thing where I have realized that the only thing I can kind of count on is my career, it is likely that I will get a return on the amount of time I put into it. When I work harder, I am rewarded.

You can't think that way about people, they always let you down.

I thought corporations were people?

jubei33
3rd December 12, 08:06 PM
But they're still people, right?

jubei33
3rd December 12, 08:08 PM
Do they feel lonely sometimes and need a shoulder to cry on?

jubei33
3rd December 12, 08:11 PM
If they're people, then they deserve time off too, after all they've worked for it (http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/03/news/economy/record-corporate-profits/).

jubei33
3rd December 12, 08:13 PM
Bailouts? That sounds vaguely socialist to me...are you not a closet communist?

Cullion
4th December 12, 07:42 AM
Bailouts? That sounds vaguely socialist to me...are you not a closet communist?

Government largess to well connected for-profit institutions is the other lulzy 20th century ideology.

Syntactical Disruptorize
4th December 12, 10:21 AM
Government largess to well connected for-profit institutions is the other lulzy 20th century ideology.To me, it looks a lot like the first. Whether the state owns the companies or the companies own the state, the result is the same: A DP of the rest of us.

Spade: The Real Snake
4th December 12, 01:30 PM
She has some smoking pix and some meh pix


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jubei33
4th December 12, 02:38 PM
Government largess to well connected for-profit institutions is the other lulzy 20th century ideology.

Wait a minute....so what you're saying is this where two dudes and a girl get it on?

Robot Jesus
4th December 12, 02:42 PM
that's a devils three way, a DP is something that usually happens in that situation.



The real question is, what is the political equivalent to DVDA?

Spade: The Real Snake
18th December 12, 01:35 PM
Stay Classy, Europe


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nihilist
18th December 12, 01:37 PM
RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE SLUTS

AAAAAA
18th December 12, 02:14 PM
Stay Classy, Europe


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No wimpy counter-campaign on the internets: the sluts directly set siege to (maybe) the offender's school. GO SLUTS!

Feryk
19th December 12, 08:58 PM
American girls need to be sluttier. I blame organized religion.

Spade: The Real Snake
19th December 12, 09:50 PM
You need to blame that fucking gut of yours...


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Max Aidan Katja Audi Pegged Jr.
19th December 12, 11:22 PM
Womankind's main purpose is to act as ovens for the perfect loaves of male offspring.

nihilist
19th December 12, 11:25 PM
Are you saying your mom had an element that went out?

Max Aidan Katja Audi Pegged Jr.
19th December 12, 11:26 PM
God, you failed long ago. Have you seen the Pope? Billy Graham? They are your mortal representatives. Sit down.

nihilist
19th December 12, 11:36 PM
They work for people like resolve.

People like Carlin, Dawkins and Einstein do the lord's work.

Syntactical Disruptorize
20th December 12, 04:49 AM
No. Manson, Pol Pot, and Muzak are here to do the work of Melek Taus. He never heard of those other dudes you mention.

John Wayne Gacy was His son, in whom He was well pleased.

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