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Angry Mandrill
8th November 11, 07:04 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-said-to-be-planning-paternos-exit.html?_r=1&hp

joe paterno and penn state are a religion around here. now it turns out they're catholic. the gory details:

- 1998. pedo scum (jerry sandusky) was reported to police and university for showering with young boys. cops did nothing, university as well.
- 2000. another report with similar results.
- 2002. an assistant coach walks into the locker room and finds sandusky fucking a ten-year-old boy in the showers. literally. said he was drawn by the sound of 'rhythmic slapping' (yes, i almost lost my dinner writing that). assistant tells joepa, joe tells athletic director, AD does nothing.
- 2011. after accusations from molested boys, sandusky is arrested. attention is drawn to penn state's leadership. officials start dropping like flies.

right fucking now, joe's defending himself by saying he reported it up the chain of command. problem is, joe is god in them parts. who the fuck does god report to? why didn't he call the cops? and why didn't that motherfucker assistant coach who witnessed the rape of the child stop it? or call the cops? how do you walk away from that? how do these motherfuckers sleep at night?

i say burn 'em all, every fucking one of them is guilty. especially joe paterno. fuck you, joe.

Ajamil
8th November 11, 10:05 PM
Imagine all the athletes that coach questioned the sexuality of, or called girlish in an attempt to boost training. I never realized that's actually a testing of the waters.

And they called me gay for avoiding​ sports.

Japuma
8th November 11, 10:45 PM
As a Penn State grad I've been conditioned to accept JoePa as God. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this one.

EvilSteve
9th November 11, 08:22 AM
Read about this a couple days ago. Wow- the sleaze and corruption are unfuckingbelievable. It does beg the question though, if they kept covering it up, how long did they think they were going to get away with it? They're not the Catholic church, and even the church got caught.

Spade: The Real Snake
9th November 11, 10:26 AM
fucking disgusting and I nominate Mandrill as High Inquisitor

OZZ
9th November 11, 10:47 AM
This is news, and disgusting news at that,not sports.
It shouldn't be in the sports forum.
Having said that..how someone could live with themselves when they are party to a crime like this and don't say anything ?
The diddler himself should be hanged. But why the fuck would someone cover for him?
If you walked into a shower area and saw someone you worked with fucking a ten year-old boy -what would you do ? I'd pull him off and start beating on him right on the spot. He'd be lucky to get out of there with his life.
Now, maybe most people wouldn't take things into their own hands, but to not report anything ??? I don't get it..I know the rich and powerful look out for one another, but that's beyond the pale. I can't get my head around it.
I looked into going to Penn State at one time, they've got a dynamite philosophy program.

OZZ
9th November 11, 10:47 AM
fucking disgusting and I nominate Mandrill as High Inquisitor

Seconded.

Angry Mandrill
9th November 11, 10:48 AM
As a Penn State grad I've been conditioned to accept JoePa as God. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this one.

i work with a buncha lions, and they're walking around in shock. even guys who graduated 10-15 years ago are acting like their dog just died.


Read about this a couple days ago. Wow- the sleaze and corruption are unfuckingbelievable. It does beg the question though, if they kept covering it up, how long did they think they were going to get away with it? They're not the Catholic church, and even the church got caught.

my question is this: how does someone who knows about something like this cover it up and hope nobody finds out?


fucking disgusting and I nominate Mandrill as High Inquisitor

as long as i get to use a pair of pliers on them motherfuckers until i get a satisfactory answer to the question i just posed.

EvilSteve
9th November 11, 11:02 AM
my question is this: how does someone who knows about something like this cover it up and hope nobody finds out?

Easy, they have no conscience and would happily throw a 10 year old into a meat grinder if it kept alumni dollars rolling in for the football team.

Angry Mandrill
9th November 11, 11:06 AM
*mentally adds wood chipper and chainfall to list of inquisition tools*

Commodore Pipes
9th November 11, 11:14 AM
One of my favorite professors was a lion, too. But it is right for them to feel shame; this is absolutely disgusting. Mandrill, maybe you could take a steel bristle brush and a little sulfuric acid and scrub away parts? This is your show, of course, I'm just pulling a resolve here and using violence to show my disgust.

Spade: The Real Snake
9th November 11, 11:16 AM
I am liking the idea of employing hyenas and baboons with sharp rusty metal instruments

Spade: The Real Snake
9th November 11, 04:23 PM
I am also getting annoyed with the media seemingly trying to soften this by constantly referring to it strictly as "child abuse".

For the dullwitted or news skimmer, the casual appearance of "child abuse" makes it seem as if the fucking scumbag smacked a kid, as that is the commonly understood concept of "child abuse". It wasn't just abuse. It was worse than that.

If he would have done these same unwanted things to a co-ed, you know damn well the Women's Libbers would be demanding it be called rape. He was a child rapist.

jubei33
9th November 11, 04:59 PM
I think he might have been trying to tell us something (http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575) all along:
8004

Angry Mandrill
10th November 11, 10:08 AM
pedo-enabling scumbag Joe Paterno FIRED. 46 years, Joe! ignominious end, Joe! how's that shit taste?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20111110_Joe_Paterno_says_he_ll_resign_at_season_s _end.html?cmpid=125219969

Commodore Pipes
10th November 11, 11:49 AM
99% (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-Joe-Paterno-riot-police-deployed-110911) - the percentage of Penn State fans who think the football program is more important than a rape-free childhood.

EvilSteve
10th November 11, 01:36 PM
And now there are allegations that Sandusky was pimping out boys to rich donors? WTF?

Linked from the Drudge Report:


"I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."


"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. (Why does) Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"




Link (http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html)

Also:
DA Who Never Charged Sandusky Has Been Missing Since 2005 (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/DA-Who-Never-Charged-Sandusky-Has-Been-Missing-Since-2005-133615093.html)

Commodore Pipes
10th November 11, 01:42 PM
If this is true, man...

Seriously, if this was a movie, critics would deride it as the most tiresome, hackneyed, over the top shock plot ever. It would be blasted for being cheap and exploitive. This shit is fucked up.

EvilSteve
10th November 11, 01:54 PM
It's like the Larry King child molestation thing again. (That's the Larry King from Arkansas, not the talk show host)

OZZ
10th November 11, 03:44 PM
The Penn State Alumni will never be the same if that second report turns out to be true. The school will lose MILLIONS in donations..
This is unbelievable shit, man.

Japuma
10th November 11, 03:47 PM
uhhhhhhhhhnnggggggggggggggg... My head....

Angry Mandrill
10th November 11, 04:08 PM
if that pimping-out report is true, they should all face the death penalty, enablers included.

and why hasn't that bitch mcqueary been fired?

EvilSteve
10th November 11, 04:30 PM
I'm guessing it's true- you know that there have to be rich creeps out there (outside of the Belgian government) who are willing to pay top dollar for young boys.

As to whether these allegations will be swept under the rug, that's another story.

Ajamil
10th November 11, 05:55 PM
I'm amazed at the local support. Everyone at work who commented was sympathetic toward Paterno and upset he wasn't finishing out the year. They say football is a religion, and the parallels are getting more and more uncanny.

Cullion
10th November 11, 05:56 PM
Paedophile rings involving powerful people like senior police officers, social workers, politicians and judges have turned up all over Europe, including, sad to say, in the UK.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/south-wales-child-abuse-inquiry-spreads-to-33-homes-1289058.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation_2008

Paedophiles aren't all Brian Peppers, you know? Perhaps most aren't.

bob
10th November 11, 06:01 PM
What is a college coach doing with such access to 10 year olds?

Japuma
10th November 11, 07:47 PM
He had a football related non-profit set up for "At-Risk" children.

Hedley LaMarr
11th November 11, 02:12 AM
Sports Illustrated article about Sandusky from 1982
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1126185/1/index.htm


Growing up in Brownson House, Sandusky (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Jerry_Sandusky/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) had observed the same thing about troubled children. "So much of what happens depends on the care and concern that people show for them," he says. "I saw so many kids come through there who never really had a family or anybody to care about them or give them any guidance at all. It always bothered me."
It hasn't bothered Sandusky (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Jerry_Sandusky/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) that The Second Mile thus far has kept him from leaving Penn State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Pennsylvania_State_University/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "Many people have talked to me about hiring him," says Paterno (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Joe_Paterno/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm), "but Jerry's been reluctant to talk to them because of all the commitments he has in this area." A couple of head-coaching jobs at the college level have come and gone, as well as inquiries from Oakland (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Oakland/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) and Tampa Bay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Tampa_Bay/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) about interviewing Sandusky (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Jerry_Sandusky/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) to become a pro assistant. "A long time ago Jerry really wanted to be a head coach," says Dottie, "but now there are so many things going that he never mentions it anymore."
"I'm concerned about his future," says Paterno (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Joe_Paterno/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm), who spent 16 years as an assistant to Rip Engle (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Rip_Engle/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) at Penn State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Pennsylvania_State_University/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "I'm proud of everything that he and Dottie have done, and I certainly wouldn't like to lose him, but I'd hate to see him lose his chance to be a head coach."
"The timing hasn't been right for me or my family," says Sandusky (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Jerry_Sandusky/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "It might be someday. We believe the saying, 'It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it.' Dottie and I were disappointed when we couldn't have children, but we took it as a positive thing and it gave us an opportunity to do more."
"It's the way he's always been," says Sandusky (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Jerry_Sandusky/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm)'s mother, Evie. "I guess it's his nature that he's never quite happy unless he's helping somebody else."
TL;DR: he gave up coaching gigs with the NFL to keep "working with at risk youth" with his program at Penn State.

OZZ
11th November 11, 12:24 PM
Look at this :
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_why_mcqueary_still_coaching111011

EvilSteve
11th November 11, 03:43 PM
Sports Illustrated article about Sandusky from 1982
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1126185/1/index.htm

TL;DR: he gave up coaching gigs with the NFL to keep "working with at risk youth" with his program at Penn State.

Something tells me not even the most committed pedo would give up NFL money for his own pedo-ranch unless he was making more money off of the latter.

Pedo ring sounds more and more plausible.

Nasreal
11th November 11, 04:04 PM
I'll start this off by saying, even though I'm from PA I am far from a Penn State fan. My grandfather and uncle were both Buckeyes. That being said, I always thought Joe Paterno seemed like an aged grandfatherly type, and he seemed like a good guy. It appears that I was really really fucking mistaken. I could not believe all the support he received with all this either. Students rallying to keep him on as head coach, and tipping over two news vans. It really puts the whole college football, and football in general, thing in perspective. People treat JoePa like he's some kind of fucking god around happy valley and much of PA.

Now that the truth has come out, and he appears to be a cowardly piece of shit who worked alongside, and covered up for, a damn pedophile. In spite of that, there are still people out there who are all pissed off about his being fired. Jesus christ. I finally heard a radio caller on a sports talk show out of philly say exactly what I had been thinking: SHUT THE FUCK UP about Joe Paterno's legacy and how it's going to be overshadowed, and realize that this guy that your beloved coach covered up for was RAPING children. Jesus. People are way to damn obsessed with sports, and I hope this puts some fucking perspective on things. I hope anyone who was in any way complicit in Sandusky's actions go down in flames, and get all that is coming to them and more in terms of prison-shower donut-punching.

Nasreal
11th November 11, 04:13 PM
Look at this :
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_why_mcqueary_still_coaching111011
Yeah, thanks for that link ozz. Yahoo at least apparently see's the gigantic elephant in the room, the writer is saying :LOOK, LOOK AT THAT MASSIVE FUCKING RAPE WITNESSING ELEPHANT! And yet, curiously, I haven't heard anyone else act as though they see it...hmmm.

jubei33
11th November 11, 05:06 PM
Yes, some people need to man up with some realistic perspective, or at the very least admit that they're not too offended by the idea children being ass-raped and maybe that that kind of thing it ok in their book.

Then we need to line them up and smash their genitals under a rock.

Penn state can suck it, nothing but paedophiles.

Cullion
11th November 11, 05:19 PM
Wow, you guys are going to be sooo mad when you find out what the Mickey Mouse club is really about.

Hedley LaMarr
11th November 11, 05:42 PM
Something tells me not even the most committed pedo would give up NFL money for his own pedo-ranch unless he was making more money off of the latter.

Pedo ring sounds more and more plausible.
I had not considered that possibility, though I still believe that Sandusky didn't take the NFL job because he didn't want to have field a new crop of children to molest. Besides, college football coaches still make a lot of money. Paterno's salary was well over $1 million annually
http://deadspin.com/5857629/joe-paternos-annual-compensation-is-200000-higher-than-the-psu-presidents-and-other-grotesqueries

(http://deadspin.com/5857629/joe-paternos-annual-compensation-is-200000-higher-than-the-psu-presidents-and-other-grotesqueries)That said, NFL coaches make far more than that. I won't say it's good evidence for Sandusky's pedo ring, but it does raise a lot of questions.

jubei33
11th November 11, 06:04 PM
Wow, you guys are going to be sooo mad when you find out what the Mickey Mouse club is really about.

Life time member?

If even half of this stuff is true..these kids had no one to speak up for them.

Cullion
11th November 11, 06:36 PM
This will still be happening wherever vulnerable kids congregate up and down the country.

bob
11th November 11, 06:59 PM
I'll start this off by saying, even though I'm from PA I am far from a Penn State fan. My grandfather and uncle were both Buckeyes. That being said, I always thought Joe Paterno seemed like an aged grandfatherly type, and he seemed like a good guy. It appears that I was really really fucking mistaken. I could not believe all the support he received with all this either. Students rallying to keep him on as head coach, and tipping over two news vans. It really puts the whole college football, and football in general, thing in perspective. People treat JoePa like he's some kind of fucking god around happy valley and much of PA.

Now that the truth has come out, and he appears to be a cowardly piece of shit who worked alongside, and covered up for, a damn pedophile. In spite of that, there are still people out there who are all pissed off about his being fired. Jesus christ. I finally heard a radio caller on a sports talk show out of philly say exactly what I had been thinking: SHUT THE FUCK UP about Joe Paterno's legacy and how it's going to be overshadowed, and realize that this guy that your beloved coach covered up for was RAPING children. Jesus. People are way to damn obsessed with sports, and I hope this puts some fucking perspective on things. I hope anyone who was in any way complicit in Sandusky's actions go down in flames, and get all that is coming to them and more in terms of prison-shower donut-punching.

Well, in his defence the current Pope did worse and still kept his job so there is a precedent.

Nasreal
12th November 11, 09:00 AM
Well, in his defence the current Pope did worse and still kept his job so there is a precedent. Damn catholics.

bob
14th November 11, 03:44 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/14/peter-roebuck-dies-in-hotel-fall

Quite famous British/Australian cricket journalist just jumped out a window soon after being interviewed by police in Sth Africa. Nothing being said in the mainstream media about motive but has a reputation for spending much of his time on his charity for underprivileged African boys and has some form...

http://www.vexnews.com/2011/11/peter-roebuck-did-the-abc-and-fairfax-turn-a-blind-eye-to-their-own-criminal-sexual-predator/

Though alleged victims were above the age of consent.

EvilSteve
14th November 11, 09:13 AM
One of the horrors of child sexual abuse is that those NOT involved would often rather sweep it under the rug than deal with it, and can become quite abusive and apparently literally violent against anyone who would prefer to confront the situation.

Ajamil
14th November 11, 09:36 AM
Am I the Sociocider living closest to Penn State campuses? Do I have to go there on behalf of all of us to slap the people saying they shouldn't stop the season (which I agree with) because missing the games would be traumatic?

Also, props to The Daily Show for being the first TV media outlet I've heard actually say the kid got "raped." Not abused, not molested, but raped.

Spade: The Real Snake
14th November 11, 10:27 AM
Am I the Sociocider living closest to Penn State campuses? Do I have to go there on behalf of all of us to slap the people saying they shouldn't stop the season (which I agree with) because missing the games would be traumatic?
You would be better off letting Mandrill do it. They might actually feel some pain when he lays hands on them.
You might wind up in a shower somewhere.


Also, props to The Daily Show for being the first TV media outlet I've heard actually say the kid got "raped." Not abused, not molested, but raped.
So Jon Stewart reads my posts?
Hey, Stewart....you are a faggot.

Angry Mandrill
14th November 11, 11:19 AM
sandusky is out on unsecured $100K bail. prosecution wanted half a mil and ankle monitor. now it turns out the presiding judge (a female!) has done volunteer work for his charity. string her up right next to him!

prosecutors have decided to follow the money and start investigating donors to sandusky's charity. seems like an 'oh, duh' moment, but i'm sorta surprised they're being that smart about it.

SNL fried penn state this weekend. i couldn't find a vid that didn't have ads. youtube done blocked all the uploaded vids.

Ajamil
14th November 11, 02:51 PM
You would be better off letting Mandrill do it. They might actually feel some pain when he lays hands on them.
You might wind up in a shower somewhere.Me and Mandrill can team up. I'll draw them to the shower and he can make an easy clean-up what with the floor drains an all.

Angry Mandrill
22nd December 11, 04:53 PM
unrelated tragedy: bill conlin, revered philadelphia sports writer, is also a pedophile. he preyed on his own relatives. scumbag motherfucker, if i ever run into you, it'll be in a truck. all i can say is that, as a father, i now suspect EVERYONE in general. god help you if i suspect YOU in particular.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20111222_Years_of_silent_fear__6th_woman_acuses_Co nlin.html

Spade: The Real Snake
22nd December 11, 05:05 PM
turn those two scumbags over to the Flyers fans.