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resolve
22nd September 11, 08:33 PM
Corpses just being piled up as displays now...

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/que-pasa/mexico-horror-thirty-five-corpses-dumped


They are also blamed for burning down a casino in Monterrey killing 52 people, and a series of mass pits with more than 200 bodies.

Residents brace in fear at what horror the drug gangs could envisage next.

I think it's crazy how the US keeps pursuing interests so far from our shores but ignores something that directly affects our economy in many more ways than the Middle Eastern oil reserves.

I'm also not sure how much oil PEMEX produces but I think I remember it being substantially high on the list of oil imports of the US.

bob
22nd September 11, 09:12 PM
What do you think the US should be doing about Mexico?

resolve
22nd September 11, 10:06 PM
I don't know.

But something rather than providing weapons and money to the druglords...

SoulMechanic
23rd September 11, 01:46 AM
What do you think the US should be doing about Mexico?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlVRos4hZahd0ng5tKwHJBAAMr-AeVRkJN_cclrl1iw7BwKHAJOQ

bob
23rd September 11, 01:55 AM
You should teabag them?

Ajamil
23rd September 11, 01:57 AM
I want to say Mexico is third in our oil provider list.

I would love for the US to be able to go to Calderon and say, "either let us in to help you fight this war that is affecting both of us, or we shut down the border completely." But with the wars we're currently fighting I don't think that can happen. So I honestly think we should shut down the borders as much as we can. I'd love to go no trade, no tourism but I fear that would seriously hurt our economy.

EvilSteve
23rd September 11, 08:04 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this is largely drug related violence? Well, as I recall, we spend more annually on PR (just PR, not enforcement) of our "war on drugs" than the street value of the entire cocaine crop of South America.

Now, I think the rational solution here is to legalize, but since that would ruffle some feathers, why not just BUY the drugs directly from the drug lords an either destroy them or see if they can be refined for pharmaceutical use (both cocaine and THC have medical uses). Sounds crazy, I know, but when the alternative is the wholesale slaughter of innocents maybe it's time to rethink policy.

EDIT: Oh, and SM, please don't nuke the tequila.

Dr. Socially Liberal Fiscally Conservative Vermin
23rd September 11, 08:09 AM
1) Legalise drugs ... simple but hysterical outrage makes this impossible

2) Annex Mexico

EvilSteve
23rd September 11, 08:25 AM
1) Legalise drugs ... simple but hysterical outrage makes this impossible

2) Annex Mexico

Oh hell no! We can't pay for our own citizens, WTF we gonna do with all those Mexicans? We only have so many Home Depots you know!

Craigypooh
23rd September 11, 09:23 AM
Replace the word "guns" with "drugs" in the US constitution and your problem is solved. Alternatively replace "religion" with "drug use".

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 10:48 AM
I can't believe anyone is surprised by this, from a country whose response to the worsening air pollution problem in Mexico City was to construct a series of "Giant Fans" on the mountainside and blow the pollution away.

EvilSteve
23rd September 11, 10:57 AM
Replace the word "guns" with "drugs" in the US constitution and your problem is solved. Alternatively replace "religion" with "drug use".

7810

Ajamil
23rd September 11, 11:19 AM
I can't believe anyone is surprised by this, from a country whose response to the worsening air pollution problem in Mexico City was to construct a series of "Giant Fans" on the mountainside and blow the pollution away....did it work?

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 12:05 PM
...did it work?
they never tried it.
either they didn't have the cash to purchase and install the fans -or- they didn't have the cash to power them

Ajamil
23rd September 11, 03:11 PM
Maybe the cartels will give them a loan.

bob
23rd September 11, 04:22 PM
Colombia kind of won in the end. How did they do it?

SoulMechanic
23rd September 11, 04:49 PM
The funny thing is the richest man in the world is Carlos Slim Helu.

"I've always said that the better off you are, the more responsibility you have for helping others. Just as I think it's important to run companies well, with a close eye to the bottom line, I think you have to use your entrepreneurial experience to make corporate philanthropy effective."
Carlos Slim

HappyOldGuy
23rd September 11, 04:56 PM
Colombia kind of won in the end. How did they do it?

AIUI, this war in Mexico is essentially a continuation of the cartel wars in Columbia. As the US and Columbia managed to take out the highest profile leaders in Columbia, the locus of power shifted north to the gangs that controlled the routes through Mexico into the US.

Dark Helmet
23rd September 11, 05:50 PM
Has it occured to anyone that the police could have killed these guys? Or another agency like the mexican ATF?

HappyOldGuy
23rd September 11, 05:56 PM
Has it occured to anyone that the police could have killed these guys? Or another agency like the mexican ATF?

The police and the cartels are not mutually exclusive.

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 05:57 PM
The Federales, unless they are trying to make an example of the person, would make the bodies disappear

HappyOldGuy
23rd September 11, 06:07 PM
The local police are pretty likely to take orders from the cartels.

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 06:11 PM
Well, yeah.
they don't want THEIR bodies found on the street

Dark Helmet
23rd September 11, 06:22 PM
The Federales, unless they are trying to make an example of the person, would make the bodies disappearUnless the bodies are a message to a particular druglord.

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 06:40 PM
hence the "make an example" part......

Ajamil
23rd September 11, 08:03 PM
The funny thing is the richest man in the world is Carlos Slim Helu.

"I've always said that the better off you are, the more responsibility you have for helping others. Just as I think it's important to run companies well, with a close eye to the bottom line, I think you have to use your entrepreneurial experience to make corporate philanthropy effective."
Carlos SlimNever heard of him until this post. His wiki makes him sound like a modern day Carnegie with the criticism on him being a monopolist and the like. I would bet a lot of Americans right now would be upset at him having the gall to have so much money when people around him don't.

Spade: The Real Snake
23rd September 11, 11:42 PM
Slim needs to KICK-IN on that big ol' wall I gots planned