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OZZ
4th September 11, 04:02 PM
Here's a fight that could be interesting.
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=37506
It should be exciting, although I think its a safe bet that Manny will win by Decision or a late-round stoppage.

SoulMechanic
4th September 11, 05:04 PM
you left the second 6 out from the end of your link so it just goes back to the sporting index section. Here you go dawg.
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=375066

The fight will be cool. I will watch a stream of it after I watch the UFC fight that airs in competition that night. It's my way of saying "FUCK YOU BOB ARUM, THIS IS WHAT YOU AND DON KING GET FOR RUINING BOXING!" Juan Manuel Marquez is pushing 40 and don't think he will win. I do see this one going the distance though. But I say with confidence its not going to be a snoozefest like the Mosley fight was. Marquez will challenge and bring it to Many. But I am sure as fuck going to watch the UFC fight as top priority. MMA gets top priority over boxing unless its Many vs. Mayweather. Oh yeah, fuck you Bob Arum.

OZZ
4th September 11, 07:53 PM
I feel much the same way you do about the promoters and what they have done to the sport..fucking cocksuckers.
My bro told me today that the UFC was scheduled early in the evening on the 12th so that there will be no conflict between that and the Boxing match ?
If he's right ..that would be swell.

SoulMechanic
5th September 11, 02:49 AM
I hope he is right but just as an added FUCK YOU BOB ARUM I will not be purchasing the PPV and will be more then happy to stream it live instead.

You know what fight I really want to see OZZ? Well thanks for asking so I will tell you. I want to see Andre Berto and Victor Ortiz have a rematch. Berto lost the WBC title to Ortiz via UD. Now he just won the IBF title from Dajan Zavek yesterday. So now that Berto holds a title again and Victor is about to lose his to Mayweather a Ortiz vs Berto fight would make as a great co-headliner for the Many vs. Mayweather super fight! Now that is a PPV I would be more then happy to pay for. Shit, I would pay DOUBLE the regular price of 58.99 to see that shit. Let Kelly Pavlik get another shot at B Hop on the same card and I would jizz in my pants. Even though Pavlik's loss to Martinez kinda makes it hard to make a case for him getting another title shot with Hopkins. But hey, can't a white dude want to see another white dude take a title just for the sake of being white?

OZZ
6th September 11, 02:36 PM
I am interested in the Mayweather- Ortiz debacle only because I am anxiously waiting to see if PBF has lost a step, and I'm hoping like hell that he has.
I can't stand that motherfucker.
Here's the latest in the Arturo Gatti estate war:
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=375238
Civil court is the last gasp for his family. I still find the circumstances surrounding his death very suspicious.
Drawing up a new will shortly before his death and not leaving a cent to his child or family? Doesn't seem right..I've been following the case for two years and I'm not convinced his wife didn't fix things up down in Brazil somehow.

SoulMechanic
6th September 11, 03:15 PM
Pretty sure she did him in dude. His death was totally fucking wacky, the whole will thing and their long and rocky marriage was volatile at its best.

But you wouldnt ever think that by looking at her.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWLFDggMwYy491vu3wNa8FXgwxWTRUz yDCEQK_onBVWQFTBEHyfA

Spade: The Real Snake
6th September 11, 03:30 PM
I disagree.
Girl has crazyeyes

OZZ
9th September 11, 05:45 PM
Oh wow..look what Pizzd found for me:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1050806--boxer-arturo-gatti-was-murdered-claim-forensic-experts?bn=1
This isn't over yet..

OZZ
15th September 11, 09:23 PM
Just found this on Youtube..great quality for such old footage. Awesome restoration..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqhJzgSj4M

Spade: The Real Snake
15th September 11, 10:55 PM
nice find.
in repayment, I promise not to molest your cat this week.

in some of the vids his movement actually reminds me of Anderson Silva, a bit.

Ajamil
15th September 11, 11:14 PM
In the first fight, certainly. His pounding is different than Silva's.

Spade: The Real Snake
15th September 11, 11:22 PM
it was mostly during the sparring.
just his calm demeanor and seeming ease at forcing his partner into failed aggression.

OZZ
16th September 11, 10:09 AM
Now there is a black man who knows what it was like to deal with real oppression and horrific racism.
The Rise And Fall of Jack Johnson is an A&E film documenting his life - its really good.

EDIT :This week's SI has an article about the upcoming match between PBF and Ortiz. Apparently, MONEY is the biggest PPV draw in Boxing history with 6.9 million buys over 7 fights and $375 million in revenue.
Wow..

SoulMechanic
16th September 11, 03:52 PM
If you really break it down its not that big of a deal. If you took Mike Tyson in his prime and placed him in a time machine to present day he would blow those numbers the fuck up. All that means is PBF is the most popular draw right now. MT in his prime with the population being what it is today plus the higher access to television and PPV being an option in more homes now then in the 80's-90's. Shit I remember the one time my neighbor ordered a PPV fight in the early 90's a fucking technician had to come over to the house and tinker with the box to get the Tyson fight up and running. Now PPV is a mandatory feature on basic cable.

OZZ
16th September 11, 07:04 PM
True enough...I was more surprised by it due to the fact that I didn't regard him as being that big of a draw and in the league of fighters like Tyson, Leonard and even De La Hoya..but I guess I was wrong.

Spade: The Real Snake
17th September 11, 12:17 AM
If you really break it down its not that big of a deal. If you took Mike Tyson in his prime and placed him in a time machine to present day he would blow those numbers the fuck up. All that means is PBF is the most popular draw right now. MT in his prime with the population being what it is today plus the higher access to television and PPV being an option in more homes now then in the 80's-90's. Shit I remember the one time my neighbor ordered a PPV fight in the early 90's a fucking technician had to come over to the house and tinker with the box to get the Tyson fight up and running. Now PPV is a mandatory feature on basic cable.
you used to be able to use a simple notch filter for ppvs

OZZ
18th September 11, 10:11 AM
Anyone watch the Mayweather - Ortiz fight ?
Controversial 4th round KO :

http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=376075

Spade: The Real Snake
18th September 11, 02:08 PM
Larry Merchant will be the next opponent

SoulMechanic
18th September 11, 04:01 PM
Until he said that comment I had no idea just how old Merchant was. I have pretty early memories of seeing that guy on t.v. but still didn't think he was in his 80's.

Spade: The Real Snake
18th September 11, 10:58 PM
Until he said that comment I had no idea just how old Merchant was. I have pretty early memories of seeing that guy on t.v. but still didn't think he was in his 80's.
he looked old when calling Tyson's fights 25 years ago.

SoulMechanic
19th September 11, 01:24 AM
Some nights he sounds drunker then others.

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 07:51 AM
Jay Mohr does a nice impression of Merchant.

OZZ
19th September 11, 11:11 AM
I hate the way Merchant talks..he drags out his sentences like he's delivering some masterpiece of poetry or something, Its so irritating.

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 11:46 AM
Jay Mohr does an even better Harold Lederman

OZZ
19th September 11, 12:03 PM
Who the fuck is Jay Mohr ?

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 12:30 PM
WTF kind of hockeyfan are you, anyhow?

OZZ
19th September 11, 04:41 PM
Nobody up here cares what Americans think about hockey Snake..

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 04:45 PM
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SoulMechanic
19th September 11, 05:19 PM
Looks like some Canadians do care you dumb hoser.

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 05:21 PM
Take off, eh! Beauty, eh?

OZZ
19th September 11, 05:55 PM
I don't always watch the NHL Awards show..especially now that they've moved it to Vegas.
I preferred it when it was an old school, boring, suit and tie affair in Toronto.
Its just one more attempt to appease US audiences.

OZZ
19th September 11, 06:18 PM
Oh, and here..some more fallout from Saturday's fight :
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-iole_mayweather_pacquiao_091911

Spade: The Real Snake
19th September 11, 06:26 PM
I don't always watch the NHL Awards show..especially now that they've moved it to Vegas.
I preferred it when it was an old school, boring, suit and tie affair in Toronto.
Its just one more attempt to a make them interesting.

bob
20th September 11, 04:39 AM
I just watched the fight and didn't have much of a problem with what he did. The guy hit him with a flying headbutt. You could clearly see before Mayweather hit him he was telling him to stop apologising and put his gloves up.

OZZ
20th October 11, 12:09 PM
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111017/gatti-trial-111017/

The civil trial is almost over.

OZZ
7th November 11, 01:58 PM
Is anyone interested in watching the Pacquiao - Marquez fight this Saturday ?
http://tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=378921

Seeing as dickhead Dana decided ( AGAIN ) to have a free UFC fight on the same night ...he's such a cock for doing that.
I'm interested in the HW UFC tilt that night too..but I want to watch Manny's fight as well. Marquez has actually given Manny a run for his money in both their previous matches.

Spade: The Real Snake
7th November 11, 02:13 PM
I watched the free UFC fight on Fox the other night and they did a nice job with the telecast.

From what I'm hearing, the UFC card is planned to end around the time the Pacqy fight is beginning.

jubei33
7th November 11, 05:36 PM
hey, you know Joe Frazier is dying of liver cancer?

OZZ
7th November 11, 08:59 PM
Yes..I heard that.
A very one-dimensional fighter, but he had the heart of a lion.

OZZ
8th November 11, 12:28 AM
He just passed away tonight..
I got really choked up reading this report:
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=379930

Spade: The Real Snake
8th November 11, 10:36 AM
Great quote:

After a trembling Ali it the Olympic torch in 1996 in Atlanta, Frazier was asked by a reporter what he thought about it.
"They should have thrown him in," Frazier responded.

Spade: The Real Snake
8th November 11, 12:20 PM
From Mike Tyson:

"Their (Ali and Frazier) era was competitive fighting at the highest level....As a young fighter it has always been an honor to be compared to Frasier."

Class statement from Team Tyson

OZZ
8th November 11, 01:46 PM
Classy comment indeed..
Since they were of similar stature and favored hooks, it seemed to me like Cus D'Amato took the Frazier approach and refined it with Mike Tyson.Tyson employed the bob and weave style just as Joe Frazier did, but to make him much more elusive , Cus trained Iron Mike to work angles and to use the peekaboo tactic which resulted in Tyson taking less punishment as he worked his way inside.
In the early days, Tyson was very adept at working angles and knew the importance of setting a man up before going for the KO. Joe didn't really protect himself all that well and his jab was almost non existent. He got inside on taller men through sheer determination and a willingness to pay the price, whereas under Cus' tutelage, Mike was able to avoid taking the sort of damage Smokin' Joe sometimes had to take.
I popped in my dvd of the Thrilla In Manilla last night after I heard the news and watched it before I went to bed in honor of Frazier.
You can't think of Ali without thinking of Frazier..and that's about as high a compliment as you can give a boxer.

Spade: The Real Snake
8th November 11, 02:44 PM
Bert Cooper was Joe Frazier's protege. Similar build, size and weight and Cooper had learned how to throw Frazier's left hook....but Cooper insisted on fighting heavyweight, when he could have ruled the Cruiserweight division and had limited success.

OZZ
8th November 11, 02:52 PM
I remember Smokin' Bert..he almost TKO'd Holyfield.
He's another one that was ruined by cocaine.
Ever see the slugfest he had with Michael Moorer ? Its a friggin classic..there were like 6 or 7 knockdowns in about 5 rounds.

Spade: The Real Snake
8th November 11, 03:00 PM
Yeah, that Moorer fight was a good one.
I saw Cooper (with Smokin' Joe in his corner) fight Spencer Chavez (Kronk fighter) at the Showboat

OZZ
10th November 11, 08:32 PM
This is a good piece on Smokin' Joe
http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/1553-Joe-Frazier-1944-2011-So-Long-Hero

OZZ
14th November 11, 09:53 PM
Great slideshow from Saturday's fight :
http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/manny-pacquiao-v-juan-manuel-marquez-1320812924-slideshow/

bob
15th November 11, 08:37 PM
Marquez got robbed.

SoulMechanic
22nd November 11, 03:46 AM
Read this today, thought you dudes might like it. Manny is one classy dude. One of my bar backs is going to the Philippines next week to visit family and I gave him some money to get me some swag ass Pacquiao gear from the P.I. Just hope they have some fresh Manny shirts and warm up suites in my size.


http://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/manny-pacquiao-shows-compassion-for-jorge-linares/94521?utm_source=scribol&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol
"Manny Pacquiao is an international sports icon for more reasons than his boxing talent. His generosity, friendliness, and outgoing personality endears him to fans. Most people can tell that he has a good heart. They can see that when he gives away prizes on his game show, it’s not for good publicity — it’s because he enjoys helping others.

But if you doubted Pacquiao’s kind nature, your feelings likely changed if you saw episode 1 of Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez 24/7.

In the show, Pacquiao is seen sparring with 26-year-old lightweight Jorge Linares. Linares lost last weekend to Antonio DeMarco at Staples Center in Los Angeles, and Pacquiao was ringside to watch his training buddy. Following the 11th round TKO, Pacquiao entered the dressing room where he told Linares he was broken hearted over the loss.

Pacquiao then hugged Linares, whose bloody face left a stain on Pacquiao’s shirt. Linares pointed out the stain he left on Manny’s shirt, but Pac Man dismissed it. As a guy who had to beg for food on the streets in the Philippines, Manny is not influenced by material possessions. He offered some encouragement for Linares before departing.

His actions may not seem like much, but just from that brief moment you can tell what kind of person Manny is. He’s a gentle creature who participates in a violent sport. He sometimes refuses to finish his opponents if he feels they’ve taken too much punishment. And when he sees a person about whom he cares losing in the ring, it breaks his heart."
http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/manny-pacquiao-jorge-linares-260x185.jpghttp://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/manny-pacquiao-jorge-linares1-260x181.jpg

Spade: The Real Snake
22nd November 11, 10:42 AM
Manny is not influenced by material possessions.

'cept that Ferarri
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OZZ
22nd November 11, 11:09 AM
The great thing about having the cash Manny does is you can give half of your earnings away and still live like a king.
There's no reason he shouldn't buy a Ferrari. Is he supposed to drive a beater around ?
He is a sincerely good man who wants to help people.

Spade: The Real Snake
22nd November 11, 11:46 AM
He can certainly purchase a Ferrari, to be sure. And yes, he takes care of those close to him and his countrymen.

But then don't claim the guy isn't influenced by material possessions. A better description would be something like, "He isn't going to let something as trivial as a ruined shirt come before his friendship."

OZZ
17th December 11, 11:32 PM
I just watched Pacquiao-Marquez 3 and scored the fight 114-113 for Manny.
Both of them fought very conservatively, Marquez did some beautiful counterpunching to the body while Manny was the one who pushed the action and landed more punches overall.
I can easily see how this fight could have gone either way. There were 4 rounds on my scorecard that I put a mark beside because they were incredibly close, I also scored one round even.
If you have two fighters who are so evenly matched and landing almost the same number of blows per round, every round, you need to score based on aggressiveness, ring generalship and defense. Manny wins out because he pushed the action and works his angles so well. Marquez, although he counterpunched brilliantly, spent the majority of the night backing up.
That's how I see it.

Spade: The Real Snake
18th December 11, 10:56 AM
You have to beat the champion to take his strap and Marquez didn't beat the champ

OZZ
9th January 12, 12:12 PM
I watched Raging Bull last night..one of my faves. I decided to check out some YouTube vids of the actual fights and spent a few hours watching them.
Here's the last three rounds of the final fight between LaMotta and Robinson. Unbelievable chin on the Bronx Bull...I think that fight would have been stopped sooner today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNcO4xXKRGQ

Spade: The Real Snake
9th January 12, 12:41 PM
I watched Raging Bull last night..one of my faves. I decided to check out some YouTube vids of the actual fights and spent a few hours watching them.
Here's the last three rounds of the final fight between LaMotta and Robinson. Unbelievable chin on the Bronx Bull...I think that fight would have been stopped sooner today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNcO4xXKRGQ

they are making Raging Bull II (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1148205/), a sequel to Raging Bull based on the second book LaMotta wrote.

SUCK IT, OZZ! SUCK IT HARD AND LONG!!!!

OZZ
9th January 12, 05:23 PM
Martin Scorcese is not involved in any way ?
Cash grab by LaMotta and co. it will suck rhino dicks.

Suck it Snake ! Suck it !

Spade: The Real Snake
9th January 12, 05:35 PM
Lol


Sent by telekinesis via Cerebro

OZZ
22nd January 12, 07:48 PM
Mayweather actually phoned Manny Pacquiao to talk about setting up the fight :
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=385604

OZZ
12th February 12, 12:23 AM
I went out to the fights tonight.We had great seats and it was a decent night out for $45 . The main event featuring Sam Vargas, a local kid, was over in the first round though. The boxer from Quebec named Manolis Plaitis got KO'd BUT GOOD...holy shit, he took a hell of a shot on his way down,poor bastard.

OZZ
24th March 12, 11:21 AM
This was supposed to have been a good fight..I could only find the final two rounds on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOtIvxj-9cw

OZZ
27th March 12, 10:13 AM
RIP Bert Sugar.
http://www.tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=391413

He helped me get my first freelance article published. A super nice man.

Spade: The Real Snake
27th March 12, 11:11 AM
He helped me get my first freelance article published.
Really?


A super nice man.
I always liked his writing in Boxing Illustrated and The Ring, but he always seemed like a bit of a jerk. Granted, it was always based off his commentary during fights and his interviews and movie roles where he would play a hyperversion of himself, so good to know you had a great experience and I was wrong.

Personally I always liked Steve Fahood and Jeff Ryans work in KO and Boxing Illustrated more than The Ring, but to each his own.

OZZ
27th March 12, 01:01 PM
Yeah, I talked to him on the phone and he was super-friendly to me. I asked if he was interested in freelance submissions and he told me to send in some stuff.
He later accepted a short bio I wrote up on Egerton Marcus , it was a ghost-writing assignment and didn't pay much, but I was still grateful. That was back in like '92 or something.
I think I still have the letter of acceptance with his signature around somewhere.

Spade: The Real Snake
27th March 12, 01:04 PM
That's awesome.
shoot out a RIP to stogie smoking, chapoed Bert Randolph

OZZ
28th May 12, 12:13 PM
Johnny Tapia passed away..
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--death-finally-catches-up-to-the-elusive-former-world-champ-johnny-tapia-20120528.html

I always liked this guy and looked forward to his fights.
Johnny was a real wild man and lived an extremely hard and fast lifestyle, I'm actually surprised he didn't die sooner...you just knew he was one of those guys who wouldn't make it to old age.
Talk about horrible childhoods..his bio is downright frightening.
Fantastic combo puncher and a real entertaining fighter to watch.
RIP Johnny !

OZZ
16th March 14, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKGonHvZ5uI

After the release of the Mark Wahlberg / Christian Bale flick The Fighter, a lot of boxing fans starting debating the controversial 'knockdown' of Sugar Ray Leonard by Dickie Eklund.
Well, just to quell the debate, here is a clip which irrefutably indicates that Eklund did NOT knock Sugar Ray down. He pushed him.
The End.

nihilist
18th March 14, 10:02 AM
Hater.


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Sans God
21st March 14, 06:08 AM
Their feet got tangled up then Eklund pushed Leonard down. Pretty obvious.

Spade: The Real Snake
21st March 14, 08:17 AM
If Ecklund wasn't such a low self-esteem crackhead, he would have been fine with a claim to fame of taking Leonard to a 10 rd. decision

Sans God
21st March 14, 01:03 PM
The guys a criminal who knows boxing. Nothing more.

OZZ
1st April 14, 09:16 PM
Lawrence Cole out of Texas is quite possibly the worst ref in all of Boxing.
Just sayin'

nihilist
1st April 14, 10:38 PM
The guys a criminal who knows boxing. Nothing more.
Racist.

OZZ
2nd April 14, 10:52 AM
The guys a criminal who knows boxing. Nothing more.

Dickie has been clean for over ten years now and has straightened himself up.
Give him some credit, many addicts never clean themselves up.

Sans God
4th April 14, 12:48 AM
Racist.

Slubberdegullion druggel.

nihilist
4th April 14, 01:50 AM
Insipid fussbudget

Spade: The Real Snake
4th April 14, 07:28 AM
http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/expendables-3-victor-ortiz.jpg

Spade: The Real Snake
4th April 14, 07:29 AM
and then for eyecandy purposes.....
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/04/The-Expendables-3-Ronda-Rousey.jpg

OZZ
4th April 14, 09:30 AM
Guys, don't fuck around in the boxing thread..
Jesus Christ Snake..you should know better.

Spade: The Real Snake
4th April 14, 10:32 AM
Guys, don't fuck around in the boxing thread..
Jesus Christ Snake..you should know better.
Dumbass, who do you think Victor Ortiz is?
Former World Welterweight Champ is costarring in the new Expendables.

Rousey was just an added bonus.

OZZ
4th April 14, 02:54 PM
I thought you were just photoshopping and fucking around..I didn't know he was really in it.
My humblest apologies..
Rousey is really in it too ?
Wow..

Spade: The Real Snake
4th April 14, 03:13 PM
I thought you were just photoshopping and fucking around..I didn't know he was really in it.
My humblest apologies..
Rousey is really in it too ?
Wow..

If I was gonna Photoshop, it wouldn't be putting Rousey IN clothing, OZZ....

Sans God
4th April 14, 11:35 PM
I thought Rousey had bigger boobs. I am disappointed.

OZZ
3rd August 14, 01:53 PM
Terence Crawford V Yuriorkis Gamboa
WBO Lightweight Championship Fight.
WATCH IT.
Great fight. Don't want to give anything away..check it out if you haven't seen it, Snakey.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 01:01 PM
http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/5350-Gennady-Golovkin-next-fight-teddy-atlas

I agree with Atlas...but boxers can only match up with guys that come their way. I think its unfair to expect fighters to jump weight divisions all the time just because opposition is lacking.
Golovkin is making it look easy because he is so damn good.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 15, 01:50 PM
There are so many weight classes and since some of them are only about 5lbs difference, it's not too much to expect guys to grow into weight classes.
Hearns' career spanned from 147lbs up to 190lbs at the end, going from Welterweight all the way up to Cruiserweight.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 15, 01:52 PM
Friggin' Bobby Czyz started out as a Middleweight..160lbs....the "Matinee Idol" that used to get teenage girls showing to the fights and ended his career at a 215lb Heavyweight getting his ass kicked by Holyfield.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 06:45 PM
I know its common for fighters to move around in weight class, I'm just saying that the onus shouldn't always be on the name fighter who is supposedly 'proving himself' to go up or down. Maybe some of the opponents should come to him - since he is the one that's winning all the time.
Guys will go the divisions where money can be made, a lot of MW will eventually end up in HW as they age and then shoot for the big bucks.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 06:48 PM
There are so many weight classes and since some of them are only about 5lbs difference, it's not too much to expect guys to grow into weight classes.
Hearns' career spanned from 147lbs up to 190lbs at the end, going from Welterweight all the way up to Cruiserweight.

Yeah, and then you have guys like James Toney - a very decent middleweight in his day, 'growing into' Heavyweight and ending his fighting days as a flabby, shameful representative of the sport getting choked out in MMA.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 15, 06:52 PM
I know its common for fighters to move around in weight class, I'm just saying that the onus shouldn't always be on the name fighter who is supposedly 'proving himself' to go up or down. Maybe some of the opponents should come to him - since he is the one that's winning all the time.
Guys will go the divisions where money can be made, a lot of MW will eventually end up in HW as they age and then shoot for the big bucks.
You are applying the metric of a time when there was only like 7 weight classes and 1 org:

Feather, Bantam, Light, Welter, Middle, Lt. Heavy, Heavy

To a time when there are like 24 weight classes and like 24 orgs.

We aren't going to get the Saddler/Pep Superfights. No LaMotta/Robinson. Unless one fighter is willing to move up or down.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 15, 06:54 PM
And the other thing you keyed on is money. The Heavys get the bigger bucks and everyone wants a title shot in less than 2 dzn fights. I see that in MMA its an increase in 10 mins fight time....most of which don't go that long, but boxing has a longer margin of error from 4 rounders to 12 rounds. That's an extra 24 mins. of fight time.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 07:33 PM
You are applying the metric of a time when there was only like 7 weight classes and 1 org:

Feather, Bantam, Light, Welter, Middle, Lt. Heavy, Heavy

To a time when there are like 24 weight classes and like 24 orgs.

We aren't going to get the Saddler/Pep Superfights. No LaMotta/Robinson. Unless one fighter is willing to move up or down.

Dude, you are misunderstanding me..
All I'm saying is that if Golovkin is knocking the fuck out of everyone in his weight class the onus shouldn't just be on him to move up or down to make a fight. The guys in the next division down can come up if he wants the payday or vice versa.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 07:35 PM
Not all the time, but at least some of the time.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 07:37 PM
Part of the negotiating that goes on when making a fight when the boxers are a different weight class is who is going to have to adjust more.
Guys who drop weight can get weak etc.

As far as the 24 weight class thing goes, its high time they cleaned up the sport as far as that is concerned. Too many weight divisions.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 15, 08:22 PM
Dude, you are misunderstanding me..
All I'm saying is that if Golovkin is knocking the fuck out of everyone in his weight class the onus shouldn't just be on him to move up or down to make a fight. The guys in the next division down can come up if he wants the payday or vice versa.
Well, I think the concept is "he's so good he can beat the bigger man" as opposed to "the smaller man"

So long as he fights Adonis Stevenseon, who cares.

OZZ
2nd March 15, 10:19 PM
I see what you mean.
That does seem to be the prevailing attitude, 'bigger is better'. Even if it doesn't always ring true.

Golovkin is for real, I have no doubt.

OZZ
17th May 15, 11:58 AM
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/389507-gennady-golovkin-stops-brave-willie-monroe-jr-in-six

Golovkin now has 20 straight stoppage victories.
THIS is who Boxing fans should be talking about.
Fuck Mayweather.

And I was instead forced to watch Frankie Edgar dominte Uriah Faber last night instead of being able to watch Golovkin's match, which was by all accounts, very exciting.

Spade: The Real Snake
17th May 15, 12:28 PM
Golovkin doesn't have any marquee opponents.
Maybe a supermiddle fight against Adonis Stevenson, but he doesn't have a big name and probably can't drop weight.

OZZ
17th May 15, 01:07 PM
Canelo Alvarez..

OZZ
17th May 15, 01:09 PM
He also wants to fight Andre Ward.

Both of those fights are quite feasible.

Spade: The Real Snake
17th May 15, 04:30 PM
Canelo Alvarez and Andre Ward aren't even household names in their own household.
That's the problem.
Every casual fan knew who Hagler and Hearns and Leonard and Duran were.
Holyfield and Tyson and Foreman.
Mayweather and Pacqy.

Nobody knows who Golovkin is.

OZZ
18th May 15, 12:31 AM
Andre Ward is well known enough to draw interest.
WTF is wrong with you ?

Another potential opponent is Carl Froch.

Alvarez is working his way up and is HUGE in Mexico.

I'm not talking about a superfight, Snake. Who cares about the masses. I'm talking about fucking boxing.
And everyone who really follows boxing knows who Golovkin is, and recognizes that he is the next big draw.
Your comments have exposed you - you are no longer in touch with the sport.
If you think Andre Ward is a nobody, you don't follow boxing anymore.

Ward and Golovkin are both undefeated Middleweights !
Are you on crack ??

Spade: The Real Snake
18th May 15, 07:38 AM
I thought you were referring strictly to "big" fights meaning "drawing in the casual observer".

I think if Pacqy can swing it, a fight between he and Amir Khan would be bigger than Ward/Golovkin but there is a little size difference and I think they are/were teammates.

OZZ
18th May 15, 09:35 AM
No...fuck the casual observer.
I'm tired of listening to these simpering twats who only watch one fight every three years tell me that boxing 'sucks' or that boxing is 'dead'.
Friday Night Fights is the only semi-regular broadcast for boxing that I get up here, and even that is a week behind. Sportsnet doesn't even carry any boxing at all anymore, they strictly cover MMA.
TSN is the only sports channel I get that even makes an attempt to cover boxing, and if you get lucky it pops up on a latino channel or something once in a while.
So I pretty much have to search things out on Youtube.

OZZ
18th May 15, 09:47 AM
I thought you were referring strictly to "big" fights meaning "drawing in the casual observer".

I think if Pacqy can swing it, a fight between he and Amir Khan would be bigger than Ward/Golovkin but there is a little size difference and I think they are/were teammates.

To be honest, I hope Pacquiao retires.
He has lost 4 of his last 7 fights and I would like to see him bow out while he is still remembered as an all-time great.