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Cullion
31st December 10, 12:05 PM
http://johnleechmp.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/the-ashes-urn11.jpg?w=192&h=300

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/08/14/1225761/518037-crying-fans.jpg

Fair dinkum. lololol.

Cullion
31st December 10, 12:06 PM
There's a lot of funny shit when you type 'crying australian' into google images, actually.

Spade: The Real Snake
31st December 10, 12:21 PM
Did they lose at Grasshopper again?

EDIT
and yeah, the dude getting thrown from the horse was a nice pic

Cullion
31st December 10, 12:21 PM
Yes. Again.

Spade: The Real Snake
31st December 10, 12:22 PM
Do they still at least WTFPWN all at Australian Rules Football, or do they get their Down Unders kicked at that, as well?

Cullion
31st December 10, 12:25 PM
As far as I know the only time Australian Football gets played professionally against foreigners is against Gaelic Football teams from Ireland that agree to play under modified rules. I don't know how they do at that.

Spade: The Real Snake
31st December 10, 12:29 PM
I'm guessing not well.

jkdbuck76
31st December 10, 12:45 PM
There's a lot of funny shit when you type 'crying australian' into google images, actually.

Like this one.... I ask you, Cullion: would you?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-1310063-0B15294B000005DC-869_468x329.jpg


Funny, there were no pics on Google for Steve Irwin's funeral! You'd think Australians would shed a tear for him. I know I did....but it was a man-tear, dammit!

FickleFingerOfFate
31st December 10, 12:58 PM
Being as adventurous as he was,
Steve Irwin's ashes were ensconced in a Croc-pot.

Spade: The Real Snake
31st December 10, 01:09 PM
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/71942729.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD3D6E8E24F8AD364C 926375D46BFC80D2D399D876706CBEA3C6E7E4E2CE924510
Look at this fucking fat American LOL


EDIT
had to rehost image cuz
fucking what happened to the pic!!!

SoulMechanic
31st December 10, 04:30 PM
LoL, Cricket. . . I wouldn't brag too hard for the little ugly Indian men might catch word and stomp the shit out of you dudes right after tea time.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dcVWCKwZeJT2QM:http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/3922867131_f18f4bf756.jpg&t=1

I'd lube up with these tears.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/26/article-1062611-02CF00DD00000578-459_224x423.jpg

bob
31st December 10, 05:18 PM
http://johnleechmp.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/the-ashes-urn11.jpg?w=192&h=300

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/08/14/1225761/518037-crying-fans.jpg

Fair dinkum. lololol.

Did we lose at Antique Roadshow again?

Toby Christensen
31st December 10, 05:21 PM
I get angry about the mismanagement of our intellectual property, the disembowelling of our health system, the wrecking of our education system and getting involved in wars that don't concern us, personally.

SoulMechanic
31st December 10, 05:32 PM
Yea Toby, we know. But tell us what makes you cry.

NoBowie
31st December 10, 05:48 PM
Yea Toby, we know. But tell us what makes you cry.

Stairs?

FickleFingerOfFate
31st December 10, 07:18 PM
women.

Toby Christensen
31st December 10, 07:19 PM
What makes me cry?
Reading "Power Of The Dog" by Kipling.
Weeping with rage after vicious flashbacks.
My blocked tearduct.

Toby Christensen
31st December 10, 07:20 PM
women.

Holy shit.

FFF is RIGHT for once! Archive that post in its own special section!

Japuma
31st December 10, 08:00 PM
Looking like Russel Crowe's down syndrome half cousin?

Cullion
31st December 10, 08:48 PM
LoL, Cricket. . . I wouldn't brag too hard for the little ugly Indian men might catch word and stomp the shit out of you dudes right after tea time.

You will prize our cricket bats from our cold dead fingers.

You faglords, however, run a 'WOLRD SERIES!!!111!!'' where no other countries fucking compete.
And you play a weird version of rugby that has to stop and start all the time so the fat kids can get their breath back, and everybody wears body armour in case somebody gets hurt falling down. Even at the professional level

That's ridiculous.

I tell you what: You and Australia should team up at Cricket. Come on man, bring the revenge.

FickleFingerOfFate
31st December 10, 08:52 PM
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Noisy-Cricket-Men-in-Black.jpg

Cullion
31st December 10, 08:57 PM
Like this one.... I ask you, Cullion: would you?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-1310063-0B15294B000005DC-869_468x329.jpg

After a British clean-up crew had disinfected her, sure.

danno
31st December 10, 09:00 PM
I don't follow cricket (though the only sports we played in school were rugby and cricket), but isn't this the first time in a bazillion years the poms actually won the ashes?

I like it. I think part of the reason i was never interested in the ashes was because we dominated so much.

Cullion
31st December 10, 09:02 PM
No. We're holding on to the Ashes after destroying Australia last time.

DESTROYING!

Cullion
31st December 10, 09:03 PM
IIRC DAYoung is into Cricket.

Well, he used to be.

NoBowie
31st December 10, 09:23 PM
i love this song, it makes me cry. This guy could seduce me.

BM0A_yg8XjU

Cullion
31st December 10, 09:24 PM
Oh, I've no doubt that Australians are good people. Salt of the Earth.

Yiktin Voxbane
31st December 10, 09:45 PM
2 words .

FUCK Ricky Ponting

FUCK his rampant gambling

FUCK his love of a cock in a frock

FUCK his insipid leadership

FUCK the Australian selectors for sticking with Mr. Ponting .

Kudos however to the English team . I am from the old dart but have lived here so long now doesn't feel right to support them . You guys have outplayed us on every level of the game .

/BEER !

danno
31st December 10, 10:37 PM
IIRC DAYoung is into Cricket.

Well, he used to be.

Everyone I know loves cricket, I don't quite understand why I never liked it.

I don't mind playing in the back yard with a tennis ball though.

SoulMechanic
31st December 10, 10:50 PM
We don't play cricket or Rugby out of sympathy. I am more then confident within 5 years we could dominate the rest of the world at both sports. Give us another five on top of that and we will most definitly be dominating soccer as well. Now when I think of it, I am almost positive we could get some minor league baseball players together and be in the top 5 in the world right now. Ive played cricket(with English people!!) its like baseball but much easier.

Japuma
31st December 10, 11:14 PM
"Some people call me xenophobic. But I just legitimately think that America is better than every other country. Back in the day that was called patriotism." - Kenny Fuckin' Powers

Harpy
31st December 10, 11:30 PM
Cullion - it's not like England is #1 in the world rankings and they are yet to dominate international cricket (at Test, One day or 20/20) the way the Aussies had for most of the last two decades.

Plus the Aussies regularly trounce the UK at most events in the Commonwealth Games and let's not forget the blue skies and beaches, stronger economy and sharks.

bob
31st December 10, 11:36 PM
We don't play cricket or Rugby out of sympathy. I am more then confident within 5 years we could dominate the rest of the world at both sports. Give us another five on top of that and we will most definitly be dominating soccer as well. Now when I think of it, I am almost positive we could get some minor league baseball players together and be in the top 5 in the world right now. Ive played cricket(with English people!!) its like baseball but much easier.

Did you know there were twice as many registered rugby players in the US than Australia?

SoulMechanic
31st December 10, 11:38 PM
Yeah, and they are drunken weekend warriors and upper middle class college douchebags(future weekend warriors) with no real athletic abilities. The real athletes are busy playing real sports bro.

bob
31st December 10, 11:44 PM
Yeah, and they are drunken weekend warriors and upper middle class college douchebags(future weekend warriors) with no real athletic abilities. The real athletes are busy playing real sports bro.

That describes most of the rugby players in Australia as well.

Maybe if you get a 10:1 saturation you might have a chance. I hope so, it would make international rugby more interesting.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 12:03 AM
You do know America is ranked in the Top 15 in the world at Sevens and has won more Olympic gold metals in the "sport" then any other country in the world right??? With that said, if it was still an Olympic sport we would definitely be a formidable force.

danno
1st January 11, 12:09 AM
And you wonder why people bomb you.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 12:18 AM
You best watch your tongue "New Yank".

danno
1st January 11, 12:26 AM
Did you know our dollar is now worth more than yours?

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 12:28 AM
Yes, but it is indeed a good thing we got more of them.

danno
1st January 11, 12:35 AM
Per capita?

Toby Christensen
1st January 11, 01:10 AM
Looking like Russel Crowe's down syndrome half cousin?

And this is what passes for "normal"? Someone who can't tell a genetic condition from a congenital one?

Wow, it's no wonder America has fallen.:wtfgif9fr:

Neildo
1st January 11, 01:25 AM
chiming in for a proper battle of the colonies. real men wear blades on their feet.

Toby Christensen
1st January 11, 01:44 AM
Bullshit. Real men wear deep blue singlets, Hard Yakka shorts, and drink Four Ex and bash people they think are gay.

And use "fuck" and "cunt" as arbitrary word particles.

Oh, and we let the fascist Left AND Right ride over us.

Neildo
1st January 11, 01:51 AM
i wish cunt were a more acceptable colloquialism here. you say it on the street in vancouver and people look at you all offended. fuckin cunts.

Cullion
1st January 11, 09:50 AM
We don't play cricket or Rugby out of sympathy. I am more then confident within 5 years we could dominate the rest of the world at both sports.
Give us another five on top of that and we will most definitly be dominating soccer as well.

You won't even be close. Americans aren't likely to develop a hardon for Cricket any time soon, but you do play Soccer and Rugby (after a fashion).

I tell you what, talk is cheap. 10 says you're wrong. I'll still be around in 5 years to take your easy money from you.

Cullion
1st January 11, 09:57 AM
The real athletes are busy playing real sports bro.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/fridge-monarchs.jpg

Rugby requires too much continuous running for American defensive linemen.
It's simply not sufficient to be able to accelerate your lard for 10 yard bursts before taking a few minutes to catch your breath.

As I've demonstrated before in another thread, Rugby players frequently make successful transition to the top levels of the NFL. The few attempts in the other direction did not end so successfully.

FickleFingerOfFate
1st January 11, 10:50 AM
Cullion is surprised that one cannot employ a heavy battle tank for tactical hit-and-run skirmishes.

Can someone help him out please, I have enough irrational arguments with my 14 y/o.

Cullion
1st January 11, 10:52 AM
Surprised?, No. I'm explaining why it doesn't work in Rugby. Did I confuse you with British spelling or something?

FickleFingerOfFate
1st January 11, 11:04 AM
I think the confusion is based on the British accent in your line of reasoning.

NoBowie
1st January 11, 11:08 AM
As a red blooded American and the consummate capitalist I must say Cullion is right.

Footballl sucks. Rugby is much better. Hockey sucks too.

However, I recommend everyone watch Tennis like rich, smart people.

Cullion
1st January 11, 11:18 AM
Per capita?

Adjusting for purchasing power (i.e. comparing what 1 US dollar buys you in the US, compared to Australia) is something of a dark art, done in different ways by different organisations, but Australia is a few steps below the US on 'GDP per capita' whether the comparison is done by the IMF, the World Bank or the CIA.

FickleFingerOfFate
1st January 11, 11:18 AM
Of the sports listed in his previous post,
the only one that Nob would be physically able to participate in,

is Tennis.


Poorly.

Cullion
1st January 11, 11:21 AM
Tennis is boring as a sport, it's value is in getting girls like Anna Kournikova to bounce around in a loose little skirt.

FickleFingerOfFate
1st January 11, 11:22 AM
Tennis is boring as a sport, it's value is in getting girls like NoB to bounce around in a loose little skirt.


Which is why no one watches it.

NoBowie
1st January 11, 11:23 AM
Which is why no one watches it.

Except rich, smart people.

We had Judo at my high school. I did that. And Tennis.

FickleFingerOfFate
1st January 11, 11:24 AM
I predict:

Tennis balls, by ippon!

Harpy
1st January 11, 01:43 PM
Which country has more people with good teeth on average, the UK, USA or Australia?

Cullion
1st January 11, 01:49 PM
Lily, men are talking about sports. Shut up.

Japuma
1st January 11, 02:49 PM
As I've demonstrated before in another thread, Rugby players frequently make successful transition to the top levels of the NFL. The few attempts in the other direction did not end so successfully.

Why would any NFL caliber player try to transition to rugby? The NFL league minimum for rookies this year was $325,000, while the average wage of the top rugby league players is way below that. There is incentive for the best rugby player to come over here and try to play with the NFL, but there is incentive only for an average practice squad NFL player to attempt to play rugby.

And lol, way to put up a picture of William "Refrigerator" Perry from when he was playing for the Monarchs, a World League of American Football team... AKA NFL Europa, after he had retired from the NFL.

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 03:04 PM
Did you know our dollar is now worth more than yours?

Yeah that sucks. I used to order stuff from Australia all the time since the USD was > the AUD.
I would imagine those days will never come back since our Federal Reserve is printing paper @#!*% faster than the idiots in this country can realize what's coming as a result.

No shit: my wife was in a graduate level economics class for public school teachers and one of her classmates seriously asked "why not just print more money?"
If this dumb bitch represents the average intelligence here, then we are uber-screwed.

Cullion
1st January 11, 03:25 PM
Why would any NFL caliber player try to transition to rugby?

The search function doesn't work any more otherwise I'd point you at the thread listing the few who did.



And lol, way to put up a picture of William "Refrigerator" Perry from when he was playing for the Monarchs, a World League of American Football team... AKA NFL Europa, after he had retired from the NFL.

He was always a fat fuck.

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 03:35 PM
You do know America is ranked in the Top 15 in the world at Sevens and has won more Olympic gold metals in the "sport" then any other country in the world right??? With that said, if it was still an Olympic sport we would definitely be a formidable force.

That would be from the one time it was an Olympic sport and the USA won it then?

Dark Helmet
1st January 11, 03:57 PM
Like this one.... I ask you, Cullion: would you?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-1310063-0B15294B000005DC-869_468x329.jpg



Who is this woman?

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 04:01 PM
Some swimmer. Just to a G**gle image search for "crying Australian" and you'll pull up the picture of this strapping young lad quickly.

Dark Helmet
1st January 11, 04:06 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1310063/Australian-swimmer-Stephanie-Rice-apologises-homophobic-Twitter-slur.html

Ok!

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 04:18 PM
Not so much homophobic as it is Springboksophobic. I guess if you've been put on a pedestal, then you ought not have a Twitter account. Or ought to think twice before posting.

I wonder if the Aussie had used some other type of word to describe her foes if that would have made it all right? "Suck on THAT you Vegemite-eating bastards!" But then she would have offended Vegemite eaters or even bastards.

At least when Russell Crowe threw his cell phone, he didn't say "f4gg0t". Even HE is smart enough to not offend people like that.

Miss Rice, please enjoy your remaining two sponsorships.

Japuma
1st January 11, 04:26 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47243000/jpg/_47243921_jacobsen282.jpg

lol

Cullion
1st January 11, 04:29 PM
He can outrun any of your defensive linemen.

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 04:30 PM
^
"Two days ago I saw a vehicle that could haul that tanka'"

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 04:31 PM
He can outrun any of your defensive linemen.

Sprint or cross-country?

Cullion
1st January 11, 04:32 PM
Sprint or cross-country?

Anything over 20 yards.

nihilist
1st January 11, 04:33 PM
He can outrun any of your defensive linemen. He better start runnin'.

jkdbuck76
1st January 11, 04:33 PM
Do you have any idea how our linemen train?



























Cuz I don't.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 04:39 PM
How many defensive linemen could do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZP6EbfRSxg

Or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOUVNyxXkp0

Or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Y5Fkb4YOg

Cullion
1st January 11, 04:41 PM
Do you have any idea how our linemen train?

They eat buckets of fried chicken in between 3-rep sets on the Smith machine.

Face it guys, NFL is a crap sport. You're just watching grotesque 350lb pharmacological experiments jerk around like chess pieces in 3 second plays.

Japuma
1st January 11, 04:46 PM
Do you want to go ahead and admit now you don't know anything about American Football?
All D-Linemen:
http://media.nj.com/giants_impact/photo/giants-justin-tuck-and-osi-umenyiora-running-at-training-camp-57e894a7fd361e17_large.jpg Justin Tuck (4.56 40yrd dash) and Osi Umenyiora (4.78)

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/4/d/5/a/2009_NFL_Scouting_07b1.jpg
Brian Orakpo (4.70)

But you say "Those are defensive ends!" ...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/58/589746.jpg
Ndamukong Suh, Defensive Tackle (4.98 40 yd dash)

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0290/8665/50569_feature.jpg
Paul Soliai, Nose Tackle (5.02 40 yd dash)

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 04:48 PM
Chunks a good guy, i have seen him play for Edinburgh a few times and for a prop he isn't an unusual shape, having seen him turn a scrum (where the strain on your neck is immense) and ruck for possession, I don't think he has a lot of problems with stamina, strength or endurance.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 04:50 PM
Vids or it didn't happen lol.

Cullion
1st January 11, 04:51 PM
Do you want to go ahead and admit now you don't know anything about American Football?

Ooh look, 40yd dash times?

Duh.

They'd die of exhaustion halfway through playing a professional game of Rugby. And those times aren't actually that fast.

This is one of the problems with the stupid insular little world of 'sports only Americans play', you get sucked into it and make dumb posts as above.

Japuma
1st January 11, 05:02 PM
Not to mention they each benched 30+ reps of 225lb at their combines and had verticals of over 30".

Cullion
1st January 11, 05:05 PM
Not to mention they each benched 30+ reps of 225lb at their combines and had verticals of over 30".

They're being outperformed on all the metrics you've listed so far by professional Rugby players, without being able to match the Rugby players for endurance.

I'll tell you what, why don't you make your own special thread where you try and explain why these crappy sports designed around commercial breaks that only Americans watch are so fucking cool, and we'll chip in to show you why Rugby's better.

This thread is about Australia losing a cricket match.

Japuma
1st January 11, 05:08 PM
You were the one who pointed out defensive linemen, thats all I've been talking about. Look up stats for Running backs, Wide Receivers, Corners and Linebackers. I'll even give you some names, Adrian Peterson, Jerry Rice, Champ Bailey, Darrell Green, Ray Lewis, Lawrence Taylor, Brian Urlacher, Emmitt Smith....

HappyOldGuy
1st January 11, 05:09 PM
Anything over 20 yards.


Ooh look, 40yd dash times?


I don't know about rugby, but in american football you aren't actually allowed to keep moving the goalposts.

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 05:13 PM
I hope people on this thread are remembering that Scots are exchangeable with English for cricket only. We play as a County side and many Scots have played for and captained England.

Mike Denness and Douglas Jardine are examples, Jardine in particular made Australians cry with his bodyline theory.

Cullion
1st January 11, 05:14 PM
I don't know about rugby, but in american football you aren't actually allowed to keep moving the goalposts.

You forgot the part where the times he gave over 40 yards weren't actually very impressive.

bob
1st January 11, 05:18 PM
How many kids actually play American football at any kind of level? It's always struck me as a sport with a wide divergence between homoerotic.. er.. spectator interest and participation.

Cullion
1st January 11, 05:19 PM
Absolute silence from Dola now money is on the table.

Absolute silence.

Japuma
1st January 11, 05:21 PM
"Football
This is the most popular sport among boys with more than 1 million interscholastic participants as of 2010. This excludes youth league participants. Football allows for kids of any shape and size (variation of positions) to compete in a team atmosphere. Parents tend to be concerned about this sport because of the contact. However, if taught properly, football can be one of the safest sports to play because of padding and helmets.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/99949-popular-youth-sports/#ixzz19pDGA9rb"

HappyOldGuy
1st January 11, 05:23 PM
How many kids actually play American football at any kind of level? It's always struck me as a sport with a wide divergence between homoerotic.. er.. spectator interest and participation.

Everyone plays pickup games. A decent number play in kiddie leagues, but it's not as popular as soccer or baseball. I'm not sure how it stacks up to kids basketball leagues nationally.

bob
1st January 11, 05:23 PM
That's a retarded statement about helmets for starters.

Japuma
1st January 11, 05:25 PM
Yeah, but it's just pointing out how popular it is with the youth.

bob
1st January 11, 05:30 PM
Ok, I'll concede the point. It's definitely the toughest sport out there.

7189

HappyOldGuy
1st January 11, 05:32 PM
^^^Jealous

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 05:37 PM
Ok, I'll concede the point. It's definitely the toughest sport out there.

7189

OK it's a better game for women.
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Women+Rugby+Final+Auckland+v+Canterbury+XSDfHhpZ5G _l.jpg

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 07:35 PM
That would be from the one time it was an Olympic sport and the USA won it then?

No, more like three times.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 07:39 PM
You won't even be close. Americans aren't likely to develop a hardon for Cricket any time soon, but you do play Soccer and Rugby (after a fashion).

I tell you what, talk is cheap. 10 says you're wrong. I'll still be around in 5 years to take your easy money from you.

I said add another five years on top of the original five and we will be dominating the world cup at soccer. So that would be in ten years. Oh, and you are on for the American equivalent of ten pounds bitchface. As for cricket, I seriously do think we could take some bush league scrubs and have some little darky from India teach them the game and the would be able to win your precious ashes in a year or two. I seriously am not trying to come off like a total asshole on this. But I just really do think baseball takes far more skill then cricket.

I would reply to you about football but Kringus already rode your ass raw on that one.

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 07:44 PM
No, more like three times.

It was twice (USA won gold I mean)) actually 1920 (where it was only USA and France playing in the whole tournament) and 24 (USA France and Romania) , France has the most medals though.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 07:49 PM
No, more like three times.
Lol the US only won the Olympic gold twice in Rugby. First in 1920 when there were only 2 countries that entered the USA and France. The second time in 1924 there were 3 entrants the USA, France and Romania.

Bear in mind that the biggest and best Rugby playing countries of the time England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa and Australia, didn't even bother entering the competition somewhat undermines the US' achievement.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 07:51 PM
No dipshits, I was answering Doug's question of how many times it was played in the Olympics.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 07:52 PM
Oh and lolli, bullshit talks and Olympic gold walks. We got em, you don't.

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 07:52 PM
The other time in 1908 Cornwall played representing GB because Wales and England were away on tour.

So no full national side from the UK has ever been beaten by the USA in an Olympic Rugby match.

Japuma
1st January 11, 07:52 PM
They're being outperformed on all the metrics you've listed so far by professional Rugby players, without being able to match the Rugby players for endurance.

I'll tell you what, why don't you make your own special thread where you try and explain why these crappy sports designed around commercial breaks that only Americans watch are so fucking cool, and we'll chip in to show you why Rugby's better.

This thread is about Australia losing a cricket match.

Aw... the 4chan addiction is starting to wear on you....

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 07:59 PM
No dipshits, I was answering Doug's question of how many times it was played in the Olympics.
Oh dear my fail.

Anyway, the NFL players aren't athletes argument is silly because to play at an elite level in American Football or Rugby requires you be a super athlete. However, I find the NFL boring as it takes like 4 hours for a match whereas I can watch a Rugby match in under 1hr 30 and Rugby is much more fast paced and action packed. The only plus side the NFL has is the antics of the players and some of the hits that the ruleset allows.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:00 PM
I think Cullion is just mad because the NFL has been steadily gaining popularity in the UK for the last ten years. We even play games there now. As far as cricket goes, Baseball is played in more nations then cricket is. Hell, even the filthy commies love baseball.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 08:00 PM
Oh and lolli, bullshit talks and Olympic gold walks. We got em, you don't.
I would put money on an English 2nd division side beating the US national team.

Ps. you're not allowed your Zimbabwean import who was the only highpoint of your 2007 world cup performance.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:04 PM
We did pretty damn good in the world cup 8 years ago. Our womans team is already thought to be a favorite to win the next world cup. I stand by what I said, give us yanks ten years and we will be a dominating force in Soccer on a global level.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 08:10 PM
We did pretty damn good in the world cup 8 years ago. Our womans team is already thought to be a favorite to win the next world cup. I stand by what I said, give us yanks ten years and we will be a dominating force in Soccer on a global level.
The issues is you have the raw potential in terms of athletes - the NFL is replete with people who could do well in Rugby. However, you don't have the structures, the incentives, the coaching knowledge or the grass roots movement. You don't have it now and you won't have it in 20 years time.

The US is too centered on its own national sports if you switched your 'football' programme nationwide and at every level over to Rugby for 1 year you still wouldn't produce a world cup winning side because you don't have the knowledge base or skill development programme to do so.

There's also no way the US is going to put enough resources into Rugby for it ever to be a realistic title contender. So the issue is a moot point.

Adouglasmhor
1st January 11, 08:13 PM
We did pretty damn good in the world cup 8 years ago. Our womans team is already thought to be a favorite to win the next world cup. I stand by what I said, give us yanks ten years and we will be a dominating force in Soccer on a global level.

2003 RUWC you won 1 lost 3 - not that great really.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:14 PM
I never made the argument for cricket or rugby. I clearly stated there will NEVER be interest for those two sports. As far as what your saying about the state of our soccer program. I would have agreed with you ten years ago. But the grassroots movement is there. Statistics show that youth soccer is growing faster then any other sport in the entire country. The influx of immigrants from Latin countries is doing even more to fuel the fire. As far as the intensive goes, every year that intensive grows. With popularity comes American pro soccer leagues witch bring money and talented trainers and coaches. We have everything we need to get the ball rolling. So believe what you will but you really have your facts wrong bub.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:15 PM
2003 RUWC you won 1 lost 3 - not that great really.

In the past twelve years you guys have barely done better then us and this is your National pastime.

Lollius Urbicus
1st January 11, 08:16 PM
2003 RUWC you won 1 lost 3 - not that great really.
Aye, they finished bottom of the pools in 2007 and 1999 and finished second from bottom in 2003.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:19 PM
Wait a second, hey Doug, you guys placed 13th last world cup and we got 12th. Damn, you guys are already loosing it. LoL

Toby Christensen
1st January 11, 08:38 PM
"Some people call me xenophobic. But I just legitimately think that America is better than every other country. Back in the day that was called patriotism." - Kenny Fuckin' Powers

And the rest of the world knows you as morons, thieves, violent and hypocrites. Legitimately.

What makes Australians cry?

Why, if I were an American I'd shoot Kringus out of common decency.

SoulMechanic
1st January 11, 08:51 PM
Calm down Toby he was quoting a fictional TV character.

Neildo
1st January 11, 09:42 PM
Wait a second, hey Doug, you guys placed 13th last world cup and we got 12th. Damn, you guys are already loosing it. LoL

~confused~ i checked this out of curiosity.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

12th and 13th is norway and russia respectively. i remember because i actually watched some of the matches. according to fifa, america came in 18th, and scotland came in 52nd. canada came in 83rd but that's because our fields don't thaw out until april so we only get a few weeks to train outside.

HappyOldGuy
1st January 11, 11:19 PM
~confused~ i checked this out of curiosity.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

12th and 13th is norway and russia respectively. i remember because i actually watched some of the matches. according to fifa, america came in 18th, and scotland came in 52nd. canada came in 83rd but that's because our fields don't thaw out until april so we only get a few weeks to train outside.

No, those are the current rankings. If you scroll back they change month by month. BD is referring to the actual tournament results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup

Cullion
1st January 11, 11:57 PM
I think Cullion is just mad because the NFL has been steadily gaining popularity in the UK for the last ten years. We even play games there now.

NFL will never overtake rugby, it's just not as interesting to watch.


As far as cricket goes, Baseball is played in more nations then cricket is. Hell, even the filthy commies love baseball.

Our women play baseball. We call it 'rounders'.

However, keener minds will have noticed that top-billing professional cricket matches frequently feature teams from different countries playing against each other, whereas in the 'World Series' all the teams are from North America.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-cricket-playing-nation-map.jpg

North America has 2 cool sports worth exporting, those are basketball (for the pure atheleticism) and ice hockey (for the fights).

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 12:05 AM
Yeah, HoG is correct. I was right the first time my bruva.

jkdbuck76
2nd January 11, 12:27 AM
OK it's a better game for women.
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Women+Rugby+Final+Auckland+v+Canterbury+XSDfHhpZ5G _l.jpg

does that gal on the right have Downs? Scroll right. The blond. Srsly.

Japuma
2nd January 11, 12:35 AM
Replace the ball with chocolate milk and yes.

jkdbuck76
2nd January 11, 12:42 AM
No, dude. The blond on the right when you scroll the picture.

<insert Master/Blaster from "Beyond Thunderdome / Australian joke here>

Adouglasmhor
2nd January 11, 09:50 AM
Wait a second, hey Doug, you guys placed 13th last world cup and we got 12th. Damn, you guys are already loosing it. LoL

We're shit and we know we are.

Adouglasmhor
2nd January 11, 09:57 AM
NFL will never overtake rugby, it's just not as interesting to watch.



Our women play baseball. We call it 'rounders'.

However, keener minds will have noticed that top-billing professional cricket matches frequently feature teams from different countries playing against each other, whereas in the 'World Series' all the teams are from North America.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-cricket-playing-nation-map.jpg

North America has 2 cool sports worth exporting, those are basketball (for the pure atheleticism) and ice hockey (for the fights).

Rounders is softball not baseball.

Adouglasmhor
2nd January 11, 10:00 AM
No, dude. The blond on the right when you scroll the picture.

<insert Master/Blaster from "Beyond Thunderdome / Australian joke here>

I admit it did occur to me, but more likely she is just a strapping great posh bint of the kind described as "sporty".

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd January 11, 10:58 AM
I said add another five years on top of the original five and we will be dominating the world cup at soccer. So that would be in ten years.


I never made the argument for cricket or rugby. I clearly stated there will NEVER be interest for those two sports. As far as what your saying about the state of our soccer program. I would have agreed with you ten years ago. But the grassroots movement is there. Statistics show that youth soccer is growing faster then any other sport in the entire country. The influx of immigrants from Latin countries is doing even more to fuel the fire. As far as the intensive goes, every year that intensive grows. With popularity comes American pro soccer leagues witch bring money and talented trainers and coaches. We have everything we need to get the ball rolling. So believe what you will but you really have your facts wrong bub.

Dude, I had this same argument 20 years ago when the US was playing passably at the 1990 World Cup in Italy.

We had a decent squad with some players possessing International experience. We had both indoor and outdoor and indoor/outdoor League play....but 20 years later we haven't sniffed past the Quarterfinals.

Granted MLS is stronger than NASL is, however the inherent problem, speaking as both a coach and player is this:

the feeding system for youth is good up until the junior high/highschool ranks. The age brackets in youth soccer from U-8 until U-12 is strongest. Once you get into highschool age ranks, participation drops off. Hell, my highschool didn't have a squad until after I was out of college and I got my upper level experience playing the U-19 travel squad.

Now, with budgetary cutbacks, football ain't going. Basketball ain't going. It's soccer and wrestling.

Couple that with not every college has a soccer program. Mine didn't. We had to play University "club" program, paying our own gas and playing against schools that actually had a program.

My chances of playing college, until my injury, didn't occur anywhere in the state. U of A had a team, ASU had a team, Grand Canyon had a team....but it was Occidental, Regis and University of Denver...that's it.

So the development programs in the States aren't there to feed the pro leagues. In San Diego or Phoenix, you have a much stronger system then....say Vegas or Salt Lake City. However, if you compare that to the UK where pretty much every pub has their own club team? No comparison.

Our youth programs stall at the teen years and most of the rest of the world keep it going.

Cullion
2nd January 11, 11:06 AM
Rounders is softball not baseball.

It's the same thing really.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd January 11, 11:09 AM
You can't play BeerBaseball.

Adouglasmhor
2nd January 11, 11:12 AM
It's the same thing really.

You bowl underarm in softball/rounders.

Kiko
2nd January 11, 11:34 AM
*quietly sets down some beers and nachos for the men discussing sports outside the SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS folder*

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd January 11, 11:36 AM
*quietly sets down some beers and nachos for the men discussing sports outside the SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS folder*
see....this isn't how Steve would have handled it.

Cullion
2nd January 11, 12:33 PM
In the past twelve years you guys have barely done better then us and this is your National pastime.

Rugby is not the Scottish national pastime. They also have a much smaller population to pick their team from. Sheer numbers at the bottom count. At their best, they are certainly still better than the US.

This is map explains Rugby talent by nation

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Rugby_world_cup_countries_best_results_and_hosts_r ev1.png

The blue and turquoise countries are the ones that take the sport seriously.

Kiko
2nd January 11, 01:35 PM
see....this isn't how Steve would have handled it.

But it's not on the front page. Which I'm guessing means the poster didn't want it there....and why I'm not gonna move it.

bob
2nd January 11, 05:36 PM
I love watching the Japs play rugby. There's nothing like a bunch of undersized kamikaze motherfuckers going hell for leather against whoever's in front of them. I bet they say haikus in the locker room before the game.

danno
2nd January 11, 06:19 PM
Adjusting for purchasing power (i.e. comparing what 1 US dollar buys you in the US, compared to Australia) is something of a dark art, done in different ways by different organisations, but Australia is a few steps below the US on 'GDP per capita' whether the comparison is done by the IMF, the World Bank or the CIA.

next time i'm in the mood for annoying a yank, i'd like you to stay out of it please. unless you have something to say which makes them angrier.

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 07:33 PM
Rugby is not the Scottish national pastime. They also have a much smaller population to pick their team from. Sheer numbers at the bottom count. At their best, they are certainly still better than the US.


Once again, as I have already stated the US does not care about rugby. We have some drunken out of shape college douchebags and other degenerates who will make a weekend warrior thing out of playing and very likely fancy wearing the jerseys to the bar more then lining up on the grass.

Your miss-quote is my reply about soccer and I was lumping Scotland in with the entire UK at that. Is soccer not the national passtime in the UK? Please read more clearly before you continue to miss quote me(this was the second time this thread). I was not feeling like a total asshole or I would have brought up the Scottish national soccer team. But I decided to just lump him in with the other pale islanders who speak with the marbles in their mouth. Now we are back on the topic I was referring to, Cullion what happened to your prestigious soccer team in the 1994 world cup? I would comment on how much better we did then you guys but oh wait, you guys never even qualified.

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 07:40 PM
It's the same thing really.
How the fuck is softball and baseball the same thing? Has the hangover worn off yet bro?

nihilist
2nd January 11, 07:53 PM
Dude, it has a ball that you hit with a stick and then run around bases.

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 07:53 PM
NFL will never overtake rugby, it's just not as interesting to watch.



Our women play baseball. We call it 'rounders'.

However, keener minds will have noticed that top-billing professional cricket matches frequently feature teams from different countries playing against each other, whereas in the 'World Series' all the teams are from North America.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-cricket-playing-nation-map.jpg

North America has 2 cool sports worth exporting, those are basketball (for the pure atheleticism) and ice hockey (for the fights).
Ever heard about Baseball being an Olympic sport? What about cricket? Is cricket played at the Pan Am games too? NOPE
Can you even fathom a guess of how many nations have competed in the little league world series??? Dude baseball is way more popular then cricket. Show me as many lame ass graphs showing that people actually play the sport as you want but you are still going to be fall down flat on your face incorrect. If you want to see how many nations are playing baseball you can just look at any fucking map. Once you are out of your natural element cullion my friend you should probably do a bit more thinking before you proceed to smash your cock all across your keyboard in rage.

nihilist
2nd January 11, 07:55 PM
Dude, would you want to get hit with a cricket bat?

The answer is no.

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 07:57 PM
Shut the fuck up Reese.

nihilist
2nd January 11, 08:02 PM
It's pretty sad when you two are arguing about cricket VS baseball.

SoulMechanic
2nd January 11, 08:08 PM
I think Cullion is subtly making this more about the outstretching influence of British empire. But sadly like the power of the royal navy that too is just a distant memory.

nihilist
2nd January 11, 08:19 PM
It kind of begs the question: What would Cullion be like if he was born in the US?

FickleFingerOfFate
2nd January 11, 08:31 PM
Oldman34.

Yiktin Voxbane
2nd January 11, 09:16 PM
/BURN .

Cullion
3rd January 11, 03:45 AM
Once again, as I have already stated the US does not care about rugby. We have some drunken out of shape college douchebags and other degenerates who will make a weekend warrior thing out of playing and very likely fancy wearing the jerseys to the bar more then lining up on the grass.

Some is misleading. You have lots of them.



Your miss-quote is my reply about soccer and I was lumping Scotland in with the entire UK at that.

I was quoting you replying to somebody talking about the RUWC, so I was working around your own fail. You gabbling about soccer statistics in response to somebody talking about Rugby is your own problem.



Is soccer not the national passtime in the UK? Please read more clearly before you continue to miss quote me(this was the second time this thread). I was not feeling like a total asshole or I would have brought up the Scottish national soccer team. But I decided to just lump him in with the other pale islanders who speak with the marbles in their mouth. Now we are back on the topic I was referring to, Cullion what happened to your prestigious soccer team in the 1994 world cup? I would comment on how much better we did then you guys but oh wait, you guys never even qualified.

Our soccer players spend all their time focussed on the big money games for their clubs and don't spend much effort training together for the national side. I don't care about soccer.

Cullion
3rd January 11, 03:47 AM
I think Cullion is subtly making this more about the outstretching influence of British empire. But sadly like the power of the royal navy that too is just a distant memory.

Actually this thread is about an England vs. Australia cricket match, it's you insecure Americans who tried to use it as an opportunity to make a fuckload of noise about how everybody should really be excited about their boring, irrelevant sports designed around advertising.

If Baseball's so popular, show me a map of the countries that enter the world series.

OH THAT'S RIGHT IT'S JUST TWO COUNTRIES AND EVEN THEN CANADA DOESN'T REALLY COUNT.

Cullion
3rd January 11, 03:52 AM
I've played cricket(with English people!!) its like baseball but much easier.

Game over.

SoulMechanic
3rd January 11, 03:54 AM
''I was quoting you replying to somebody talking about the RUWC, so I was working around your own fail.''
No, no you were not. But It is mighty rewarding seeing you walk away from this topic with your tail in between your legs butthurt and disproved.

May I ask why you reneged no proving facts and also to site sources on your statement of how Cricket is so much more popular on a world stage then baseball?

SoulMechanic
3rd January 11, 04:01 AM
Actually this thread is about an England vs. Australia cricket match, it's you insecure Americans who tried to use it as an opportunity to make a fuckload of noise about how everybody should really be excited about their boring, irrelevant sports designed around advertising.

If Baseball's so popular, show me a map of the countries that enter the world series.

OH THAT'S RIGHT IT'S JUST TWO COUNTRIES AND EVEN THEN CANADA DOESN'T REALLY COUNT.

You see, we do you guys a favor. We don't even send our best guys from america to go and play in the Olympics for baseball and still do very well. That is at a world level. So is the Pan am games, so are the Asian games. They all got baseball, none of the prestigious organizations look at cricket as even worth making a sport. You know how you picked a bunch of the minority fat dudes on a football squad then showed your best players in rugby? Well I can guarantee you that our third string bush league baseball players are stronger then your elite, can run faster throw harder and hit with such a better accuracy. Face it cricket is a game for old men and the privileged. Not many cricket players would want to step into the box and run the risk of getting hit in the temple with a hundred mile an hour fast ball. It takes balls and some serious skills. Care to talk shit about basketball too? Please your already on such a roll now. lol please continue.



The world series is just a fancy name. But as far as baseball and its popularity on a world level well then you go to the above mentioned organizations I mentioned, link to their websites and do the rest of the work on your own. If your man about it come back admit you were wrong and go in further detail with your newly acquired knowledge. Then kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Cullion
3rd January 11, 04:05 AM
No, no you were not.





2003 RUWC you won 1 lost 3 - not that great really.
In the past twelve years you guys have barely done better then us and this is your National pastime.

There it is. It's 2-0 to me now. You better pull something good out of the bag soon.



May I ask why you reneged no proving facts and also to site sources on your statement of how Cricket is so much more popular on a world stage then baseball?

I already gave you a map showing you the ICC members and pointed out that your world series only consists of 2 countries whereas professional cricket teams from Europe, Africa, Asia and Australiasia play each other in televised matches. All you've got concerning baseball is 'uh.. yeah? well there are little league games all over the place. Let's get this clear: Even the fucking USA is an associate member of the ICC and you yourself have played cricket.

Take your time Dola. Take your time.

SoulMechanic
3rd January 11, 04:09 AM
ok then I guess there is one miss reprezentation for me. Thank you.

Quote Originally Posted by yu0
Quote Originally Posted by adouglasfir
2003 RUWC you won 1 lost 3 - not that great really.
In the past twelve years you guys have barely done better then us and this is your National pastime.

I was not paying attention and if you scroll back after reading my explination it will make perfect sence. I thought he was talkiing about soccer because at that moment in time we were. Then I assumed the RUWC remark was a refference to the US World Cup teams success or lack there of during the series I was initially talking about when I mentioned out Soccer squad from 8 years ago. I didnt pick up his refference to Rugby because I was under the impression we were still talking about soccer. Make sense??

Cullion
3rd January 11, 04:12 AM
Oh, I got your excuse. I got your excuse right here.

SoulMechanic
3rd January 11, 04:13 AM
As for the popularity of baseball read my above thread. mr. dum dum. WHy not look at what teams try out for Olympic baseball, why not look at the fact taht the world championships and all regional championship tournaments all have baseball in the gaming schedual and rankings and NONE of them have cricket. So yeah forget about the world series and focus on my above stated points detailing how you know, baseball is played on a very agressive levvel with hopes of being the best team in the world on every fucking continent in multiple multiple countries.

Adouglasmhor
3rd January 11, 06:07 AM
I admit because the thread started about Cricket and moved onto Rugby I thought we were talking about gentlemen's sports when I used the RUWC as an example; soccer doesn't come into that category any more. Sorry if this has caused confusion.

resolve
3rd January 11, 11:34 AM
Cricket and baseball are both boring; to watch and to play.

Adouglasmhor
3rd January 11, 12:01 PM
Only if you are shit at them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06P0RdZyjT4

resolve
3rd January 11, 03:27 PM
You tried to prove how Cricket isn't boring by posting a boring ass video...

Adouglasmhor
3rd January 11, 05:55 PM
It's only boring to you because you are shit at it and don't understand it but prefer to drink flavoured vodkas with your pinky sticking out.

Neildo
3rd January 11, 06:15 PM
somebody move this thread to SPORTSSPORTSSPORTS already goddamn

Kiko
3rd January 11, 06:17 PM
Your wish is my command. Unless the creator objects....

Cullion
3rd January 11, 06:44 PM
Go for it. And move all the posts about American football and cricket vs baseball into a seperate thread called 'dola gets pwned by a limey' plz.

Kiko
3rd January 11, 06:48 PM
But doesn't the thread lose something if I de-merge it? Moved it is....

FickleFingerOfFate
3rd January 11, 10:36 PM
Just Cullion's hissy-fit.

Toby Christensen
4th January 11, 03:59 AM
Look,

The best way to decide is to have a cricketer and a baseball batter square off and have at each other.

Then we can put that argument to rest when the loser's brains spatter the walls.

FickleFingerOfFate
4th January 11, 05:20 AM
Toby would be incapable of losing that contest.

nihilist
4th January 11, 09:42 AM
But perhaps he can loose it.

Ajamil
9th January 11, 01:21 AM
So have the Australians drowned their sorrows yet? Oh wait... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSRTXW6FZ)