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kick
2nd August 10, 06:56 PM
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Facebook troll Jessica Cook leaves court. Picture: John Wilson Source: The Courier-Mail
http://www.news.com.au/technology/facebook-troll-jessica-cook-pleads-guilty-to-defacing-a-tribute-page-to-justine-jones/story-e6frfrnr-1225900174784 (http://www.news.com.au/technology/facebook-troll-jessica-cook-pleads-guilty-to-defacing-a-tribute-page-to-justine-jones/story-e6frfrnr-1225900174784)




Woman posted offensive pictures
Boasted of gaining media attention
Magistrate says it's "absolutely sickening''
A MAGISTRATE has warned online trolls the "heavy hand of the law will come down on you'' if disturbing material is posted on social networking sites.

Jessica Chantelle Cook, 22, pleaded guilty in the Gympie Magistrates Court yesterday to one count of using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence, The Courier-Mail reports (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/facebook-troll-jessica-cook-pleads-guilty-to-defacing-a-tribute-page-to-justine-jones/story-e6freoof-1225900097856).

The Gympie shop assistant was charged by police in July after she posted hateful comments and crude photographs on a Facebook tribute page set up in the memory of slain Sunshine Coast woman Justine Jones.

Ms Jones, 22, from Alexandra Headland, was murdered last month and her body was found dumped at the Nambour rubbish tip.

(http://www.sociocide.com/forums/#sidebar-start)


Magistrate Maxine Baldwin described Ms Cook's actions as "appalling, incomprehensible and absolutely sickening.''

She posted offensive pictures including a headless corpse and a vagina on to Ms Jones's Facebook tribute page.

The court heard Ms Cook created a fake profile and disguised herself by going online under the name Wendy Woods.

Prosecutor Jason Todman told the court Ms Cook was one of the site's administrators and posted "disturbing material" on the memorial page.

He said Ms Cook boasted online that her actions had gained media attention.

Prosecutor Todman told the court Ms Cook wrote: "I got a story in the local paper today, all my hard work has paid off.''

Ms Cook's lawyer, Michael Connolly from Connolly Dore Lawyers, said his client was picked on as a child and suffered mental health problems.

He said she used the internet "as a way of venting her frustrations.''

Mr Connolly would not confirm whether his client knew Ms Jones.

Magistrate Baldwin told the court she could not "even begin to put myself in the shoes of those families'' hurt by Ms Cook's actions.

She described it as a "sick sense of fun''.

Ms Cook fought back tears as she was given a three-month suspended sentence.

If she reoffends she will have to forfeit $3000.

She was released on a three-year good behaviour bond, two years probation and was banned from using social networking sites including Facebook, MySpace and Twitter.

Richard Peter Coburn, 26, from Sippy Downs has been charged with the murder of Ms Jones and remains in custody


That is going to be one busy magistrate if he wants to lock up all the "Trolls" on the interwebz.

Ajamil
2nd August 10, 08:22 PM
Perhaps it would be easier on the judge if he decided to tell us exactly who we can laugh at and mock for their misfortune.

Is it the fact that she did it to people with emotional attachment to the subject? What exactly constitutes "menace, harass, or cause offense"? Could we get TS in trouble for what's he's doing with Rudy, or does it all have to happen within the UK?

Were those the only social networking sites she's banned from? Is anything stopping her from bringing this to the attention of anonymous and letting their warped minds troll the shit out of the grieving friends and family? This might seriously blow up in their faces.

Come to think of it, is anything stopping us?

breen
2nd August 10, 08:41 PM
...Lawl Stupid fat Yankees and their laws.

SoulMechanic
2nd August 10, 08:52 PM
Lawl breen is a fucking retard who lacks reading comprehension. This was in Australia dumdum.

Ajamil
2nd August 10, 09:00 PM
Was it Aus? I didn't follow the link and couldn't determine from location names. I retract my TS statement. Well what if Lilith ever decided to press charges?

Neildo
2nd August 10, 09:15 PM
link has a .au in it. article mentions sunshine coast, magistrates, and rubbish tips. it's all in the readin komprehenshun mah man

SoulMechanic
2nd August 10, 09:19 PM
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This dirty cow is only 22? This is the only thing that I really am concerned about.

Ajamil
2nd August 10, 09:20 PM
Ignored the link, thought England had magistrates, and no idea about names of places. Rubbish Tip sounds like somewhere in England.

HappyOldGuy
2nd August 10, 09:22 PM
Has lily posted since this happened?

Harpy
2nd August 10, 10:12 PM
Yes! It wasn't me, I don't use online social networking sites!

Yiktin Voxbane
2nd August 10, 10:24 PM
LAWLZ Gympie .

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd August 10, 10:25 PM
This dirty cow is only 22? This is the only thing that I really am concerned about.
that was my first thought
my second was how Rudy could tie this to Bullshido

SFGOON
2nd August 10, 11:16 PM
...Lawl Stupid fat Yankees and their laws.

Stupid you and your Germanic capitalization.

Ragout
3rd August 10, 01:24 AM
Kylie Minogue is the second ugliest thing I've seen come from Australia now.

http://badhairday.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/kylie_minogue.jpg

bob
3rd August 10, 03:51 AM
The online stuff had nothing to do with the conviction. She was charged with actually being a troll.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/08/02/1225900/097351-jessica-cook.jpg

sochin101
3rd August 10, 06:25 AM
She was described as a "Gympie shop assistant", leading me to assume that Gympie was the word used by Australian press when they didn't want to write "hatchet-faced minger" or "hippocrocopig".

I realised late in the piece that Gympie was actually her location.

Live and learn, eh?

Shotgun Christening
3rd August 10, 06:49 AM
I was gonna put a vagina in place of her head but I just couldnt bring my self to asociate her face with vagina.

bob
3rd August 10, 08:01 AM
She was described as a "Gympie shop assistant", leading me to assume that Gympie was the word used by Australian press when they didn't want to write "hatchet-faced minger" or "hippocrocopig".

I realised late in the piece that Gympie was actually her location.

Live and learn, eh?

Gympie is both a location and a descriptive adjective, the meaning of which is difficult to convey but would be quite apparent to all locals. This was, in fact, a subtle and nuanced piece of Australian English by the journalist and non-natives could be forgiven for being confused.

For reference, other usages might include "the defendant had a Gympie arse". Suffice it to say that your first assumption was not a million miles from the truth.

Spade: The Real Snake
3rd August 10, 08:48 AM
So when Lulxy is referred to as a "gym-pie" is it a description or location?

OZZ
3rd August 10, 11:01 AM
Sick puppy..

Phrost
3rd August 10, 02:10 PM
What's with you Aussies and your sheer contempt for Freedom of Speech?

Doritosaurus Chex
3rd August 10, 02:12 PM
Was it Aus? I didn't follow the link and couldn't determine from location names. I retract my TS statement. Well what if Lilith ever decided to press charges?

To be fair, Lily would press a sandwich before she would even press charges.

partyboy
3rd August 10, 02:13 PM
video of her going on an internet rant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw)

KO'd N DOA
3rd August 10, 02:38 PM
She conveys the image of all trolls out there. Next time I fall for some of use guys shinigans, this is how I will view you and laugh.

SoulMechanic
3rd August 10, 02:42 PM
So when Lulxy is referred to as a "gym-pie" is it a description or location?
Both, it tells you that Toby is geographically located all up inside her junkbox.

Harpy
3rd August 10, 05:12 PM
There is 'PIE' in Gym-pie.

Also, women in first on trolling charges!

ICY
3rd August 10, 05:23 PM
I have no problem with this. I think if you violate the TOS of a website (which that CLEARLY does) then you should be subject to whatever punishment a court deems reasonable.

Facebook is NOT a public square, it is a privately owned service. When you violate the Terms of Service, you shit all over everyone who obeys them, and fuck you. This isn't a case of freedom of expression. You are not free to go into a restaurant and shit in the middle of the dining area. I view this similarly.

If, after being told it's fine to say or post anything, you are punished because someone gets sand in their vagina over it...then fuck them...but this isn't that. At all.

SifuAbel
3rd August 10, 07:24 PM
that was my first thought
my second was how Rudy could tie this to BullshidoYou're a dirty dirty whore.

And you probably still look better than that hopeless cow.

I would hump Kylie Minogue till she broke.

SifuAbel
3rd August 10, 11:51 PM
Could we get TS in trouble for what's he's doing with Rudy, or does it all have to happen within the UK?No, TS is an idiot. But he's a harmless little shit. Its all about damages. The most damage I'm suffering at his "skillfull" use of words is a little rib pain from laughing at his patheic mealy mouth musings.

What this woman did caused a great deal of mental anguish to a family already wrought with grief.


:bull3nc:

HappyOldGuy
3rd August 10, 11:56 PM
It's a fuzzy line, but I am having a really hard time with the notion of criminalizing hurt feelings, no matter how severe.

SifuAbel
3rd August 10, 11:59 PM
Hurt feelings, or pain and suffering? there is a difference between LOLz at a troll and posting headless pictures.

HappyOldGuy
4th August 10, 12:03 AM
I agree, this is extreme. But the old saying goes, hard cases make bad law. I would rather err on the side of free expression, and trust that the kind of sociopathic cunt who would do this is gonna trip over something else you can nail her with.

Otherwise you risk me getting in trouble for calling her a sociopathic cunt.

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 12:10 AM
over something else you can nail her with.

Otherwise you risk me getting in trouble for calling her a sociopathic cunt.

No, its just a comment on a discussion about the subject of her being a sociopathic, ultradouche, whore, devils anal child.

This isn't a web campaign designed to further torture her with pictures of her deceased parents or some such thing.

There has to be a time when you gotta step back and say, Oh hell no.

nihilist
4th August 10, 03:22 AM
What's with you Aussies and your sheer contempt for Freedom of Speech?

It's clearly outlined in the first amendment to Australia's Declaration of Undependence.

bob
4th August 10, 03:41 AM
What's with you Aussies and your sheer contempt for Freedom of Speech?

Shut up.

Shotgun Christening
4th August 10, 05:39 AM
It's a fuzzy line, but I am having a really hard time with the notion of criminalizing hurt feelings, no matter how severe.


For once we agree totally. (Dont kill yourself over it. Sometimes you make sense)

ICY
4th August 10, 08:47 AM
She agreed to the Terms of Service. She violated them.

I ask again, is it OK to shit in the dining area of a restaurant under the guise of freedom of expression?

fes_fsa
4th August 10, 09:28 AM
from facebook's TOS:


Safety

We do our best to keep Facebook safe, but we cannot guarantee it. We need your help to do that, which includes the following commitments:
You will not send or otherwise post unauthorized commercial communications (such as spam) on Facebook.
You will not collect users' content or information, or otherwise access Facebook, using automated means (such as harvesting bots, robots, spiders, or scrapers) without our permission.
You will not engage in unlawful multi-level marketing, such as a pyramid scheme, on Facebook.
You will not upload viruses or other malicious code.
You will not solicit login information or access an account belonging to someone else.
You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user.
You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.
You will not develop or operate a third-party application containing alcohol-related or other mature content (including advertisements) without appropriate age-based restrictions.
You will not offer any contest, giveaway, or sweepstakes ("promotion") on Facebook without our prior written consent. If we consent, you take full responsibility for the promotion, and will follow our Promotions Guidelines (http://www.facebook.com/promotions_guidelines.php) and all applicable laws.
You will not use Facebook to do anything unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory.
You will not do anything that could disable, overburden, or impair the proper working of Facebook, such as a denial of service attack.
You will not facilitate or encourage any violations of this Statement.link (http://www.facebook.com/terms.php)

i laugh everytime somebody is banned from a forum or social networking service and starts screaming about "free speech". there is no such thing, as you're subject to the rules of of the site. when you agree to the terms, you agree to be banned if you violate them.

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 10:34 AM
The court heard Ms Cook created a fake profile and disguised herself by going online under the name Wendy Woods.

Prosecutor Jason Todman told the court Ms Cook was one of the site's administrators and posted "disturbing material" on the memorial page.

He said Ms Cook boasted online that her actions had gained media attention.

Prosecutor Todman told the court Ms Cook wrote: "I got a story in the local paper today, all my hard work has paid off.''


Freedom of expression here is a fuzzy line that seems to blur on the side of the judge.

Here we have a person assume a false identity. With the design not to express an opinion per se but to use harassment and incur great amount of pain and suffering for personal gain.

There is no opinion to protect here.

:spanky:

Ajamil
4th August 10, 03:47 PM
when you agree to the terms, you agree to be banned if you violate them.Banned from a website is quite a bit different than being arrested and convicted.

fes_fsa
4th August 10, 04:08 PM
Banned from a website is quite a bit different than being arrested and convicted.

i didn't say they weren't different. but since you brought it up... according to Australia's laws...

So are nuisance calls, SMS or emails illegal?

The Criminal Code (Cth) contains an offence for using a carriage service to menance, harass or offend.
The offence is found in s 474.17 of the Code (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Management.nsf/current/bytitle/8F20DA53B8CF2FAFCA256F7100071F90?OpenDocument&VIEW=compilations).
474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:

(a) the person uses a carriage service; and
(b) the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.
Carriage service has the same meaning as in the Telecommunications Act 1997 (Cth) (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/management.nsf/lookupindexpagesbyid/IP200401743?OpenDocument) s 7, a service for carrying communications by means of guided and/or unguided electromagnetic energy. This definition is broad enough to capture telephone calls, email and SMS.
link (http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=nuisance_telephone_calls)

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 05:08 PM
Could someone please explain what opinion, or political view etc, was being suppressed here?

Phrost
4th August 10, 05:35 PM
You can't make "hateful comments" without expressing an opinion on <i>something</i>.

You should know this Rudolph.

Phrost
4th August 10, 05:35 PM
Edit: how the hell did I double post?

lant3rn
4th August 10, 05:37 PM
LOL phrost double post...and you're right

Ajamil
4th August 10, 05:38 PM
What? What are you talking about?

Edit: Discerned from others' posts. I suppose it depends on whether you think mockery is an opinion. I would say so.

(I just now noticed the difference in your "new avatar" - nice.)

Phrost
4th August 10, 05:43 PM
Protecting mockery is the essence of Freedom of Speech.

Popular, conventional, comfortable speech never needs protecting.

Ajamil
4th August 10, 05:50 PM
The US courts seem to agree with you - well, the lower ones. (http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/5413/53/)

Speaking of which - they should all go preach in Aus.

Phrost
4th August 10, 06:15 PM
If Fred Phelps and his entire family were on fire and writhing around screaming in agony on my front lawn, the only thing I'd do was get some popcorn so I could have something to munch on while I watched from my porch and occasionally tossed the unpopped kernels onto them for extra crackling noises.

However, I fully support their right to free speech including protesting funerals.

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 06:30 PM
This is not the same. At All. Protest is not the same as malicious stalking for personal gain. There was no opinion to protect.

What she did was no better than a mugging.

Ajamil
4th August 10, 06:39 PM
You think small. Put them out and remind them everyday that God let them burn - and an atheist saved them (to live in debilitating pain and horrible disability).

Spade: The Real Snake
4th August 10, 07:03 PM
However, I fully support their right to free speech including protesting funerals.
Do you support the Patriot Guard Riders' right to kick their ass?

bob
4th August 10, 07:32 PM
's not like she got any real punishment. Suspended sentence and (this is the real kicker) loss of anonymity.

Ajamil
4th August 10, 08:05 PM
But she can't tweet anymore!!

bob
4th August 10, 08:08 PM
I don't see anything to stress over. This is the modern equivalent of a policeman taking you aside for a quiet word that if you keep acting like a turd you'll get a beating.

Shotgun Christening
4th August 10, 08:17 PM
Protecting mockery is the essence of Freedom of Speech.

Popular, conventional, comfortable speech never needs protecting.


Thread winner. Yeah she did something in poor taste but dont we all at some point or other. Regardless of her intentions she still should be able to say it. Not sure how that extends to photoshopping though.

Besides, she cant go to jail. Rudy wouldnt have anyone to fix his Spaghetti O's. Moms are important.

Ajamil
4th August 10, 08:20 PM
She did this repeatedly, yes? How many times was she banned? Was she behind seven proxies? Why couldn't Facebook keep her off?

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 10:09 PM
ignoring oldfart34..........

Its funny how Neil defends freedom of speech not matter how damaging in one breath and elsewhere wants to restrict freedom of choice on another. Queer bird you are.

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 10:11 PM
Again, some diatribe or blanket statement about speech still doesn'r denote what exactly is she being supressed from saying. I doubt you could find one.

nihilist
4th August 10, 10:15 PM
If Fred Phelps and his entire family were on fire and writhing around screaming in agony on my front lawn, the only thing I'd do was get some popcorn so I could have something to munch on while I watched from my porch and occasionally tossed the unpopped kernels onto them for extra crackling noises.

However, I fully support their right to free speech including protesting funerals. Perhaps you would support the rights of a bunch of screaming queens to picket your wedding and/or birth of your children at the hospital.

nihilist
4th August 10, 10:19 PM
If you are in the pursuit of happiness, it is my duty as an American to use my free speech rights to harass you as much as I please.

Does that sound about right?

SifuAbel
4th August 10, 10:39 PM
There is no freedom of speech issue if she's not actually saying anything. she just wanted to goof on some poor family to get attention . thats in the realm of personal gain, not expression.

"errrrr duh, look at me post this vile shit for kicks." " I wonder if I'd get more LOLz if I burned out their eye with a cigarette."

nihilist
4th August 10, 11:27 PM
'god hates fags' isn't saying anything either.

HappyOldGuy
5th August 10, 12:51 AM
Yep, neither is the KKK, cause Nazi.

The precedent I'm most familiar with is on the religious side, but in several decisions including the one supporting the universal life church, the court ruled that no matter how silly the beliefs were, it was too dangerous for the court to get into the business of judging the content of beliefs.

bob
5th August 10, 02:45 AM
Would have thought the obscenity part of it tended to exclude her from first amendment anyway.

Shotgun Christening
5th August 10, 04:52 AM
Would have thought the obscenity part of it tended to exclude her from first amendment anyway.


Hustler Magazine v. Falwell

Shotgun Christening
5th August 10, 04:54 AM
Perhaps you would support the rights of a bunch of screaming queens to picket your wedding and/or birth of your children at the hospital.


I wouldnt like it. Not one bit, but I still support their right to be there and say it.

ICY
5th August 10, 09:03 AM
It occurs to me that Phrost is completely full of shit on this, cause Holocaust jokes=end of my modship at Bullshido and various bullshit he didn't agree with (and I agreed with this, but it's his principal, not mine)=ban for some people.

So...I call nonsense on that. Phrost believes in freedom of expression...until it really pisses him off, or inconveniences him.

SifuAbel
5th August 10, 09:09 AM
true dat

SifuAbel
5th August 10, 09:10 AM
'god hates fags' isn't saying anything either.Oh yes it is. that's someones personal belief. That is protected speech.

:adminfinger:

nihilist
5th August 10, 10:49 AM
Oh yes it is. that's someones personal belief. That is protected speech.

:adminfinger:

So mocking people's death is OK as long as it fits some nebulous 'personal belief' criteria?

What a bullshit loophole that is.

SifuAbel
5th August 10, 11:48 AM
I was talking about the "god hates fags" comment, not the death mock.


There is no freedom of speech issue if she's not actually saying anything. she just wanted to goof on some poor family to get attention . thats in the realm of personal gain, not expression.

"errrrr duh, look at me post this vile shit for kicks." " I wonder if I'd get more LOLz if I burned out their eye with a cigarette."

SifuAbel
5th August 10, 11:49 AM
death mock, what a great metal band name.

nihilist
5th August 10, 12:14 PM
And now there's a thread...

http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1574539#post1574539