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Arhetton
13th June 10, 09:56 PM
taken from sauce (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?emc=na)


WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.

The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium — are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.

An internal Pentagon memo, for example, states that Afghanistan could become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium,” a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and Blackberries.

My head is spinning a little from this. It is probably one of the biggest pieces of news in the last ten years considering the implications.

Read the article its just mind blowing.

It think it means that U.S military presence in Afghanistan will be permanent.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
13th June 10, 10:30 PM
No war for lithium!

danno
13th June 10, 10:35 PM
the middle east is going to be in pain for a long time.

Ajamil
13th June 10, 11:19 PM
I bet it still has inferior potassium compared to Kazakhstan.

This is going to have some major consequences. WE now have economic reasons to be involved there. No telling whether Afghanistan will drop us for lucrative deals with China, or be "grateful" to the American forces, or go a completely different route. If this came out earlier, I'd almost believe in the too-good-to-be-coincidence factor and wonder about why exactly we went there in the first place.

Kein Haar
14th June 10, 01:02 AM
Imagine...40 new dancing boys for every man, woman, and...um....child.

bob
14th June 10, 01:36 AM
Makes no real mention of how accessible these reserves are. Obviously politically, not very. Physically, no infrastructure in highly isolated places. Geologically, who knows? Value is only relative to how much it costs you to drag it out.

Cullion
14th June 10, 02:43 AM
The Chinese have been all over this shit for a while.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8584331.stm

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2b9861f0-bd26-11dc-b7e6-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=9c33700c-4c86-11da-89df-0000779e2340.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7104103.stm

AAAhmed46
14th June 10, 03:17 AM
Old news to those familar with the region.

Arhetton
14th June 10, 05:15 AM
Makes no real mention of how accessible these reserves are. Obviously politically, not very. Physically, no infrastructure in highly isolated places. Geologically, who knows? Value is only relative to how much it costs you to drag it out.

This is a good point, the Russians abandoned their plans because of the instability of the region, and things have only gotten worse in the last few years.

Maybe its worth keeping the region unstable to prevent other countries from developing the wealth?

Lebell
14th June 10, 09:06 AM
afghanistan is the new last frontier!
yeehahw!
who's with me?
load up on gear and ak47's, we'll keep the heathens at bay and git ourselfs sum gold 'n lithium, fellas!

OZZ
14th June 10, 11:30 AM
Old news to those familar with the region.

Yes, Soviet geologists knew there were vast mineral deposits there..this is nothing new.The only thing that has changed is the supposed amount.
I am sure this will make the path to peace much quicker..lol.

WarPhalange
14th June 10, 02:43 PM
Proof that if there is a god, he's a dick.

Ajamil
14th June 10, 03:54 PM
He's only a dick if you're not in on the joke.
http://zs1.smbc-comics.com/comics/20051230.gif

bob
14th June 10, 06:07 PM
The big discoveries for the next century are happening elsewhere. My dad's job for the last few years before he retired was travelling around the world and assessing this stuff. Trust me, there are bigger, more exciting and more easily reached treasure troves around.

Stick
14th June 10, 06:18 PM
Not even news for us. (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/no-the-military-didnt-just-discover-an-afghan-mineral-motherlode/)

This is one of the more retarded media moments in recent memory.

jkdbuck76
14th June 10, 08:16 PM
He's only a dick if you're not in on the joke.
http://zs1.smbc-comics.com/comics/20051230.gif

Wow. Make his hair red and he's Conan O'brien!

And the captions could read something really obnoxious.
Pure CTC fodder, Arj.

Madgrenade
15th June 10, 07:20 AM
You start mining in their holy mountains, blowing the caps off and shit, and every mofo and his brother and all their cousins will come down on you and ram you so hard you'll fall back down to the foothills. They don't care about money, they can make guns by hand out of pot metal, and they don't give a fuck what Hamid Karzai says to the Chinese in Kabul.

Robot Jesus
15th June 10, 01:21 PM
you give them a cut.

danno
15th June 10, 06:26 PM
then they cut YOU.

Cullion
15th June 10, 06:29 PM
Afghanistan's been famous for it's mines for thousands of years. All the Lapis Lazuli the ancient Egyptians used was mined there.

Kein Haar
16th June 10, 12:13 AM
By dwarves?

bob
16th June 10, 12:19 AM
Close. Dancing boys who didn't make the cut.

Lebell
16th June 10, 12:54 AM
Lapis Lazuli is beautiful, ever seen them persian rings made from it?
I'm totally going to buy some when im in the middle east.

Madgrenade
16th June 10, 05:15 AM
But in ancient times they didn't lace the ground with a thousand tonnes of TNT and blow up the entire mountain.

elipson
16th June 10, 07:54 PM
Ya. Mining today is fucking awesome.

resolve
16th June 10, 08:13 PM
I just hope it doesn't turn into another cycle of exploitation -> anger -> JIHAD!!!! for the Afghan peoples.

The best thing the US could do would be to NOT let worldwide corporations and instead fund by loan the creation of Afghan companies. Yet that's morally responsible and not fiscally responsible so I highly doubt it would be done.

Feryk
17th June 10, 10:37 AM
The region is already being exploited for it's other resources. One of the bigger players in the oil development is Petro Kazakhstan - based out of Calgary, AB Canada.

There will eventually be development of this resource, but the political issues are too complex right now. There are lots of reserves that fall into this category. Either the price gets high enough that it is worth the risk, or the region falls under control of a regime that is 'stable'.

That's when the bulldozers and dynamite show up.

Realistically, though, the unexploited reserves in places like Indonesia dwarf whatever is in Afghanistan.

Ajamil
17th June 10, 10:18 PM
But the US mental image of Afghanistan is badlands, wastelands, and rocky hills. Indonesia makes people think of rainforests. You can't blow up rainforests, dude.

Lebell
18th June 10, 10:14 AM
we used to own indonesia, it isnt all that bro.

Ajamil
18th June 10, 05:12 PM
You dutchies didn't break anything down there did you?

http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/map-peat-swamp-forest-237x300.png

Aww you brought the swamp with you?!?