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Harpy
10th June 10, 11:52 PM
Just want to see what percentage of Sociociders have gone vegetarian or vegan (or currently are).

Plus I'd like to know your reasons for doing it, sustaining the practice or falling off the wagon.

I've been vegetarian since I was 13 with nearly 6 years in my 20's as a vegan, back to vegetarianism because I couldn't sustain the vegan choice. I still try to be selective about what I spend my money on (eg. 'ethical, non-animal based products').

Steve
11th June 10, 12:09 AM
You do realize that your current avatar represents almost the exact polar opposite of what you're talking about, right?

jubei33
11th June 10, 12:32 AM
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-4/adolf-hitler.jpg

this guys got you beat

fes_fsa
11th June 10, 01:08 AM
i rape my food and THEN eat it.

just to show how fucking high up on the food chain i am.

Adouglasmhor
11th June 10, 01:15 AM
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-4/adolf-hitler.jpg

this guys got you beat

Not Vegetarian.


http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/03/why-hitler-was-not-a-vegetarian.html

But congratulations on falling for propaganda from Joseph Goebbels. I hope you don't believe what he said about Jews and mud people etc?

Thick fucker.


BTW not veggie I eat fish.

boondock lee
11th June 10, 01:34 AM
I kinda had a "lacoto-ovo vegetarian phase" back when I was a kid. I was a bit squemish when it came to meat. (Still get a bit squmish occasisonally) I read it was healthier and I sort of did for about a couple of years...maybe a little more.

Over time, I got over it and started eating beef and chicken. ( Not a pork man. I just don't dine on swine.)

Although I don't have the huge boner for meat like fes seems to have.

Never really tried to go Vegan. Not against the idea at all, just haven't gotten around to implenting such a regiment. Might try something like one day to see what the deal is.

SoulMechanic
11th June 10, 01:40 AM
This is how I see LiLard in my minds eye.

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resolve
11th June 10, 01:58 AM
Complete diet! I have sharper teeth than most, and I fully intend to use them! I don't like having nutritional deficits in my diet!!!

I do, however, cook completely vegetable meals for myself from time to time or have a restaurant's vegetarian choices if they are spicy (usually they tend to balance the flavors more for the lack of meat I guess). 1) It never hurts to eat MORE veggies (sort of) 2) it never hurts to have a little variety in your meals.

I like food, all types really. Well... excepting overly sugary/fat/spicy/bland foods. I don't like the Itis or massive indigestion, thanks. I do like flavor!

Yiktin Voxbane
11th June 10, 02:10 AM
I Love the expression ona young childs face when first hey learn that delicious Lamb roast used to be cute and cuddly and go Baaa

Similarly finding out delicious ham used to oink and be known as Babe (tears sometimes too) .

WarPhalange
11th June 10, 02:12 AM
I can't go fully vegetarian. Meals without meat just aren't that filling for me. I need at least one meal with meat per day. I love me some veggies, but I need the meat, too.

resolve
11th June 10, 02:13 AM
I dunno, I never had a problem with it as a kid... after I learned that sometimes I would see farm animals and get hungry. I have caught my own food before... so maybe that's why I don't have that kind of disconnect?

Harpy
11th June 10, 02:15 AM
SM - nice one.

Pirate Voxbane - you like breaking the news to kids don't you? :p

Steve
11th June 10, 02:16 AM
I like food, all types really. Well... excepting overly sugary/fat/spicy/bland foods. I don't like the Itis or massive indigestion, thanks.

?

Can you list the types of foods you do like? I mean the inclusion of sugary/fatty/spicy AND bland kind of takes out a hell of a lot of options (I personally prefer my food very spicy though I am a very well know non-foodie in general).

fes_fsa
11th June 10, 02:18 AM
i can go without red meat, but i can't go without any kind of meat for more than a day. i don't know if it's a psychological thing, but after about a day and a half with no meat, i start getting mild hunger headaches.

and as a migraine sufferer, even little headaches can turn into huge pain-fests.

Yiktin Voxbane
11th June 10, 02:26 AM
Ploops, the end of that post is sig-worthy 5-6 words specifically .

Lil .... I have on occassion done that yes .

Steve
11th June 10, 02:33 AM
i can go without red meat, but i can't go without any kind of meat for more than a day. i don't know if it's a psychological thing, but after about a day and a half with no meat, i start getting mild hunger headaches.

and as a migraine sufferer, even little headaches can turn into huge pain-fests.

btw, good to see you online, fes.

;)

resolve
11th June 10, 02:37 AM
?

Can you list the types of foods you do like? I mean the inclusion of sugary/fatty/spicy AND bland kind of takes out a hell of a lot of options (I personally prefer my food very spicy though I am a very well know non-foodie in general).

?

I'm guessing you missed the "overly" part in that quote there. Overly sugary foods will give you a "sugar coma". Overly fatty foods will give you the Itis (almost the same thing really). Overly spicy will give you indigestion. These are usually common with most people.

I love spicy food! I love sweets! I like food with AT LEAST salt or pepper in it. I'm not like my dad who would rather just eat a huge helping of meat with simple gravy on top with a side of potatoes and bread (no salt or pepper or anything). That's what I mean by overly bland. I try to keep things toned down though. You know, moderation and all that jazz.

Steve
11th June 10, 02:40 AM
?

I'm guessing you missed the "overly" part in that quote there. Overly sugary foods will give you a "sugar coma". Overly fatty foods will give you the Itis (almost the same thing really). Overly spicy will give you indigestion. These are usually common with most people.

I love spicy food! I love sweets! I like food with AT LEAST salt or pepper in it. I'm not like my dad who would rather just eat a huge helping of meat with simple gravy on top with a side of potatoes and bread (no salt or pepper or anything). That's what I mean by overly bland. I try to keep things toned down though. You know, moderation and all that jazz.

Ah, I see. I was just thrown off because I usually think of food as having a quality that defines it and that is thrown automatically into my overly category (just a switch up in words, I said I wasn't a foodie ;). when nothing stands out I would call it bland, hence my question).

resolve
11th June 10, 02:48 AM
Yeah I forgot that you had different views on food than most people. Didn't you make a thread about that a while back?

I like to cook myself. I finally have a nicely stocked herb and spices cabinet and it's fun to see what combining different flavors will get you. I try not to experiment too much... as I'm poor enough I actually have to eat everything I cook... I'm getting used to it though.

jubei33
11th June 10, 02:49 AM
Not Vegetarian.
http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/03/why-hitler-was-not-a-vegetarian.html
But congratulations on falling for propaganda from Joseph Goebbels. I hope you don't believe what he said about Jews and mud people etc?
Thick fucker.
BTW not veggie I eat fish.


Interesting. Let me respond with this:
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Steve
11th June 10, 03:02 AM
Yeah I forgot that you had different views on food than most people. Didn't you make a thread about that a while back?

Yeah, here (http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53924).


I like to cook myself. I finally have a nicely stocked herb and spices cabinet and it's fun to see what combining different flavors will get you. I try not to experiment too much... as I'm poor enough I actually have to eat everything I cook... I'm getting used to it though.

Funny thing is that I do enjoy cooking but it has to be with another person (I find that much more enjoyable than actually eating the meal more often than not). If I'm by myself at home and am hungry I usually just nibble at random things that I have bought with no intent at creating anything specific.

resolve
11th June 10, 03:12 AM
Cooking with others does ramp up the fun factor of the meal by 10; at least!

Ajamil
11th June 10, 04:29 AM
Went lacto-veggie about 5-6 years ago. This year re-added eggs to the diet. Haven't missed meat yet. I was raised an extremely non-picky eater. We had the options of eating our food or...well, no - you ate your food. I don't understand pick eaters, really (I don't consider flesh edible anymore, that doesn't count). In my entire life I've only encountered two food items I'd say I don't like: liver ( esp. chicken liver) and cooked carrots. Although I've found cooked carrots I can enjoy in the past.

bob
11th June 10, 06:03 AM
Not Vegetarian.


http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/03/why-hitler-was-not-a-vegetarian.html

But congratulations on falling for propaganda from Joseph Goebbels. I hope you don't believe what he said about Jews and mud people etc?

Thick fucker.




I challenge you to produce a non-vego source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_vegetarianism

nihilist
11th June 10, 11:44 AM
I can't go more than a few days without maoing down on some fresh young beaver meat

Kiko
11th June 10, 11:53 AM
I just put a dozen marinated chicken thighs and a small pork loin roast on the smoker. When they're done I shall repeat the experiment with a different marinade. First Herb/garlic and honey dijon and second wave Teriyaki.

Red meat does hold a special place in my diet. It must be tender high quality if it's steak. Otherwise it gets either ground or slowly stewed.

I can appreciate meatless foods, makes Lent easier for sure.

Adouglasmhor
11th June 10, 12:29 PM
I challenge you to produce a non-vego source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_vegetarianism

From the page you linked to on Wiki


Letter writer Carol Jochnowitz wrote: "On page 89 of The Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook (1964), Dione Lucas, recalling her pre-World War II stint as a hotel chef in Hamburg, Germany, states: 'I do not mean to spoil your appetites for stuffed squab, but you might be interested to know that it was a great favorite with Mr. Hitler, who dined at the hotel often. Let us not hold that against a fine recipe though.'"[17]


Author Robert Payne, in his biography of Hitler, The Life and Death of Adolph Hitler (Praeger, 1973) theorizes that the image of Hitler as a vegetarian ascetic was deliberately fostered by Joseph Goebbels:

"Hitler's asceticism played an important part in the image he projected over Germany. According to the widely believed legend he neither smoked nor drank, nor did he eat meat or have anything to do with women. Only the first was true. He drank beer and diluted wine frequently, had a special fondness for Bavarian sausages and kept a mistress....His asceticism was a fiction invented by Goebbels to emphasize his total dedication, his self control, the distance that separated him from other men....In fact, he was remarkably self indulgent and possessed none of the instincts of the ascetic. His cook, an enormously fat man named Willy Kannenberg, produced exquisite meals and acted as court jester. Although Hitler had no fondness for meat except in the form of sausages and never ate fish, he enjoyed caviar...." (p. 346)[18]

The April 14, 1996, Sunday magazine edition of The New York Times, includes this description of Hitler's diet in an article first published on May 30, 1937, 'At Home With The Führer.' "'It is well known that Hitler is a vegetarian and does not drink or smoke. His lunch and dinner consist, therefore, for the most part of soup, eggs, vegetables and mineral water, although he occasionally relishes a slice of ham and relieves the tediousness of his diet with such delicacies as caviar ..."[18]

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/twoquestions.asp Primarily Vegetarian? Lke being a little bit teetotal or slightly preggers
?

O yeah I iz ze big Vegetarian except for Ham and Sausages, baby pigeons and fish roe :hitlerdance: .

Kiko
11th June 10, 12:30 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/funny-pictures-cat-hates-his-food.jpg

I suspect my feline side also demands meat.

EvilSteve
11th June 10, 12:39 PM
Well done veg food is fantastic. And if you can manage a full vegan diet, you will feel better and be fitter without even trying. However, doing that properly takes a LOT of effort. I did it for a while, but it took far more effort than I wanted to spend after a long day at work, and I really REALLY missed cheese.

nihilist
11th June 10, 12:56 PM
I get on quite well with most vagitarians.

EvilSteve
11th June 10, 01:17 PM
Thred needs MOAR bacon hitler!

http://nunonbreak.com/Nov09/baconhitler.jpg

Wow.. bacon really DOES make everything better!

fes_fsa
11th June 10, 01:33 PM
Wow.. bacon really DOES make everything better!

oh... i agree...
http://flisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/bacon-bra-baconator-wendys-bacon-bikini-meat-bikini-bacon-bra-meat-bra-food-fetish-meat-fetish-naked-girls-eating-meat-naked-women-meat-1.jpg

Harpy
11th June 10, 04:22 PM
Vieux and Nikki surprised me on that poll.

Feryk
11th June 10, 04:29 PM
1. ) Bacon deserves it's own food group.

2.) Meat is awesome and I have it twice a day.

3.) I respect vegetarians for their choice as long as they respect mine to eat Bambi, Babe and all the other little cute animals.

4.) I eat veggies/fruits and enjoy them, but would like them more if they were meat.

jubei33
11th June 10, 05:02 PM
O yeah I iz ze big Vegetarian except for Ham and Sausages, baby pigeons and fish roe .

That's half of the voting options above. And didn't you apologetically say you ate fish?

Kiko
11th June 10, 05:04 PM
I know I've said it before, but if you don't have a smoker... GET ONE. This chicken is really great!

Adouglasmhor
11th June 10, 05:07 PM
That's half of the voting options above. And didn't you apologetically say you ate fish?

Nothing apologetic about it. I never claim to be vegetarian either because I am not. Shock, ordinary nobody is more honest than a mass murdering dictator.

bob
11th June 10, 05:48 PM
From the page you linked to on Wiki





http://www.snopes.com/glurge/twoquestions.asp Primarily Vegetarian? Lke being a little bit teetotal or slightly preggers
?

O yeah I iz ze big Vegetarian except for Ham and Sausages, baby pigeons and fish roe :hitlerdance: .

The only primary sources on that page were quotes from Hitler about his vegetarianism. The quotes you provided were either speculative, were regarding his pre-war habits or from people who had passing acquaintance with him.

I'm pretty confident the guy went full vego. Don't worry, it doesn't mean you have to hate Jews too.

Cullion
11th June 10, 07:42 PM
Vieux and Nikki surprised me on that poll.

Vieux doesn't surprise me after his posts on how one's genitals aren't truly clean until they've been scrubbed with neat surgical alcohol and how he hates the culture he was raised in. That fits my vegetarian stereotype quite neatly, actually.

My own views on meat are logged in the poll, with one addendum:-

I'd rather eat meat raised outdoors on as close-to-natural-as-I-can-afford diet, or not eat it at all. Largely for selfish reasons regarding flavour. I'm happy without milk and dairy most of the time too. I think you can get most of the proteins you need from nuts and eggs if you're too broke for free-range naturally fed meat, most of the time.

Adouglasmhor
12th June 10, 03:11 AM
The only primary sources on that page were quotes from Hitler about his vegetarianism. The quotes you provided were either speculative, were regarding his pre-war habits or from people who had passing acquaintance with him.

I'm pretty confident the guy went full vego. Don't worry, it doesn't mean you have to hate Jews too.

Fair enough, it's still an irrelevance(also the stuff about him being injected with animal based vitamin extracts and his chef spiking his soup with meat stock (so still not veggie), in the end he was eating mashed spuds and clear veggie broth, hardly a sustainable diet).

Good job the Sovs got there or he would have starved himself to death), usually when someone says "Hitler was veggie" I say so was Gandhi, what the fuck does that prove?

So he wasn't veggie when he gained power by opportunism,or took control of the NDSAP, ordered the night of the long knives to get rid of the imperialist (Stahlhelm) and bolshevist (Strasserite) factions within the party, invaded Poland, annexed Austria and the Sudatenland, Invaded the low countries and France, Started Barberossa, but he was when his sanity was slipping away and he finaly topped himself.

Big Deal.

bob
12th June 10, 03:21 AM
Exactly, while he was still eating meat he had his shit together.

Adouglasmhor
12th June 10, 06:46 AM
Exactly, while he was still eating meat he had his shit together.

Or when things started to fall apart and his condition worsened he tried to live up to his image as an aesthetic.

I like how so many people who understand the difference between statistical and anecdotal evidence love to drag out this one extreme anecdotal example. fantastic.

I am still not a vegetarian. I have just polished off a bloater with salad.

nihilist
12th June 10, 08:55 AM
YOU ATE LILY??!!

Ajamil
12th June 10, 09:02 AM
4.) I eat veggies/fruits and enjoy them, but would like them more if they were meat.Ever eat jackfruit? I had that prepared in a dish and asked the Hare Krishna cooks twice for confirmation that it wasn't meat.

Cullion
12th June 10, 09:34 AM
Ackee used in Caribbean and west African cooking is a good meat replacement. It doesn't really have a meat texture, but it's supposed to have a lot of the proteins and amino acids that are hard to get from other vegetables.

This just reminded me, I should add something to that 'Favourite Restaurants' section. There's this vegetarian chinese place in Oxford that specialises in creating convincing replacements for chicken and seafood using soy and gluten from wheat. It's a traditional buddhist type of cuisine apparently.

HappyOldGuy
12th June 10, 12:25 PM
Ackee used in Caribbean and west African cooking is a good meat replacement. It doesn't really have a meat texture, but it's supposed to have a lot of the proteins and amino acids that are hard to get from other vegetables.

This just reminded me, I should add something to that 'Favourite Restaurants' section. There's this vegetarian chinese place in Oxford that specialises in creating convincing replacements for chicken and seafood using soy and gluten from wheat. It's a traditional buddhist type of cuisine apparently.
Have you tried it? We've got a place like that in Berkeley, but it is awful. I don't think it's a problem with the idea, I've had it done well, but if someone ever tries to drag you to the long life veggie house in berkeley put em in a headlock and force feed em bacon.

Adouglasmhor
12th June 10, 01:17 PM
Ackee used in Caribbean and west African cooking is a good meat replacement. It doesn't really have a meat texture, but it's supposed to have a lot of the proteins and amino acids that are hard to get from other vegetables.

This just reminded me, I should add something to that 'Favourite Restaurants' section. There's this vegetarian chinese place in Oxford that specialises in creating convincing replacements for chicken and seafood using soy and gluten from wheat. It's a traditional buddhist type of cuisine apparently.

Thgere's a Chinese like that in London called Veg. edit they are now a chain http://www.vegveg.com/

Kiko
15th June 10, 05:06 PM
http://partiallyclips.com/comics/2010-06-15_zebras.jpg

syberia
15th June 10, 08:56 PM
I like meat and eat it most days. But a nicely done vege meal is pretty damn good. In fact, I'm going to have one for lunch.

That said, I dont like going to vegetarian restaurants. Dunno why, they just weird me out.

And I do have issues with the way animals are treated in the meat industry.
Don't get me wrong, if I had to I can kill and cook my own meat. But you can bet that, until I killed it, it was living outside under the sun with ample goddamn food. If I can get it I buy local meat, or organic.

Harpy
15th June 10, 09:03 PM
Thanks sybs and all. It's always nice to know people are mindful of their food sources.

I've seen omnivores and vegetarians fight rabidly on multiple threads, but for what reason? It's an individual choice.

syberia
15th June 10, 09:07 PM
It's an individual choice.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't argue about it.

Harpy
15th June 10, 09:23 PM
Only a meat eater would be so aggressive and uncouth.

Harpy
15th June 10, 10:27 PM
Chinese Buddhists who go to the lengths of shaping meat substitutes into the shape of animals and naming the dishes 'mock fish' really anger me. That is NOT the point of being vegetarian!!!

Ajamil
15th June 10, 10:41 PM
There isn't a single point to being veggie. And I'm very upset that I can't find a pic of the product we used to use in one of our salads: Fake turkey - ham flavored.

syberia
16th June 10, 12:41 AM
Only a meat eater would be so aggressive and uncouth.

Talk to PETA about agressive and uncouth.

I'm just saying there should always be argument. It's good for you.


Fake turkey - ham flavored

Lol.

What?

Adouglasmhor
16th June 10, 12:52 AM
Ham flavoured turkey is a Brit invention from the 70s (you used to get turkey gammon steaks) when most food was made in a lab.
I am not surprised you get it faked as well. I love fake polony made by Frys. Remins me of spam. http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-local/frameset/detail/266074_Fry_s_French_Garlic_Flavoured_Polony__slice d_sausage__500g.html

Found this as well when i was looking for it.http://www.arjunawholefoods.co.uk/Pricelist/Frozen%20Food.htm

Ajamil
16th June 10, 04:48 AM
http://www.arjunawholefoods.co.uk/Images/header.gif

Not to be confused with my hole foods...

I really don't know about the fake turkey ham. We got it delivered from an Asian market and used it uncommonly in one type of mixed salad we made. Tasted good, but like neither turkey nor ham. The packaging had the maker's name in big letters, then Soy Turkey in mid, then Ham Flavored in tiny words below.

Cullion
16th June 10, 05:04 AM
Chinese Buddhists who go to the lengths of shaping meat substitutes into the shape of animals and naming the dishes 'mock fish' really anger me. That is NOT the point of being vegetarian!!!

Why not? Saying 'I like the texture and flavour of meat, but I don't want to hurt animals' doesn't seem like 'cheating' to me.

Harpy
16th June 10, 05:27 AM
It says to me they are fake buddhists (unable to transcend the chicken/fish/pig/cow label and taste). Pretty fricken' lame. Don't pretend to be a vegetarian and then buy vegetarian 'sausages' and feel morally superior.

Cullion
16th June 10, 06:27 AM
They're 'fake' buddhists because they find a way of enjoying themselves whilst practicing Buddhist ideals of compassion towards animals ?

Is a real buddhist supposed to not enjoy the taste of their food?

Adouglasmhor
16th June 10, 12:01 PM
I have often met veggies who eat cardboard flavoured pap so they can feel worthy. I admire people who make the most of it like the above mentioned Chinese and people who make fake pies etc.

EvilSteve
16th June 10, 12:20 PM
Don't pretend to be a vegetarian and then buy vegetarian 'sausages' and feel morally superior.

Then can I feel physically superior for being thinner and in better health?

Far as I can tell the point of going veggie is to not eat animals, not to not enjoy eating animals.

One could, I suppose, make the argument that eating or desiring fake meat is a grasping and self-cherishing act and that a true Buddhist should neither like nor dislike what she eats (see: The Fish Gut Eater) but maybe that's a distinction to be fussed over when one is already a Bodhisattva.

Spade: The Real Snake
16th June 10, 12:23 PM
how do you disguise the penis?

EvilSteve
16th June 10, 12:32 PM
with a set of Groucho Marx glasses.

Kiko
16th June 10, 01:19 PM
I once shot one of them in my pajamas...







I sorta have an idea how it got there, but that's a different joke...

Ajamil
16th June 10, 03:54 PM
Many veggies-from-birth I know can't stand the taste of fake meats. It would make sense to me that this is because they never developed an affinity for the taste of flesh.

The Dalai Lama eats meat...

Cullion
16th June 10, 04:01 PM
Lots of Buddhists and Hindus eat meat.

Harpy
16th June 10, 04:36 PM
I ate meat till I was 13, then I made a decision that I did not want to be part of that suffering for animals and I never seek to replicate those tastes. That would mean being untrue to the cause I believe in. Each to their own I guess and Ariuna, yes, the Dalai Lama will eat whatever is served to him but prefers a vegetarian diet.

Have you'll seen how many ingredients go into those 'meat substitutes'. Ewwwwww.

Cullion
16th June 10, 04:53 PM
Why are you mixing compassion and self-mortification like that ?

They aren't the same thing.

bob
16th June 10, 05:11 PM
I wonder how many vegetarians castrate their pets?

Ajamil
16th June 10, 05:30 PM
Where do they live? What type of pet?

Vieux Normand
16th June 10, 09:12 PM
Vieux and Nikki surprised me on that poll.

Mine was a "choose the closest answer".

I used to hunt regularly, me an' a three-ought filling more than one freezer with venison over the years. Moving to cities, with what was called "meat" on supermarket shelves, kind of killed my carnivorism. It's nothing strict--I figure I'll eat the meat of anything I've killed myself...but the urban environment doesn't really facilitate that: nothing much good is said about the taste of 'coons and coyotes.

Re: post # 49--Wow. I had no idea that tigers hunted zebras.

As for the Hitler thing: y'know, he had two eyes. Count 'em, two. Anyone with the same number of eyes has something in common with Hitler!

Removing this taint-by-association is as simple as scooping one--or both--eyes out with a spoon. Well? What are you waiting for? The longer you wait, the greater the chance that you'll be kidnapped and taken to a tiny middle-eastern country for "trial". Get busy with the cutlery...

jubei33
16th June 10, 10:58 PM
Removing this taint-by-association is as simple as scooping one--or both--eyes out with a spoon. Well? What are you waiting for? The longer you wait, the greater the chance that you'll be kidnapped and taken to a tiny middle-eastern country for "trial". Get busy with the cutlery...

Jesus, you guys get so uppity about every petty troll. I thought hitler was a little over the top to be taken serious, but whatever. I mean come on, Lebell's socks are in your hamper.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
16th June 10, 11:34 PM
I ate meat till I was 13, then I made a decision that I wanted to be a pretentious cunt about the food I eat because I lack the intellectual motivation to hold convictions about things that matter.

Harpy
16th June 10, 11:45 PM
LOL...'things that matter'. Define this for me MJS.

Right now b1tch.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
16th June 10, 11:51 PM
It's just the food you eat. You can actually oppose unnecessary cruelty while still enjoying meat and wearing leather, especially since the best meat and leather comes from happy animals. Instead you're acting like a massive cunt that's calling out people who don't even eat meat, just meat substitutes as not being vegetarian enough. You do this because being an anarcho-syndicalist, a transcendentalist, or even something as sterile as a Green party voter is too frightening and difficult for you to understand.

Harpy
17th June 10, 01:20 AM
Look, we don't know each other. This is like me telling you that you know nothing about music after 2 years of 'training' and you getting your knickers in a twist.

*shrug*

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
17th June 10, 01:38 AM
I just read you like a book and suddenly you're non-confrontational.

Vieux Normand
17th June 10, 07:43 AM
Vieux...hates the culture he was raised in.

It isn't that.

Norman culture is vastly superior, in all respects, to surrounding cultures.

It's just that, given those neighbouring cultures--whether they be on the other side of Alençon, the other side of the Channel or the other side of the Atlantic--stating that one's own culture is superior really isn't saying very much. Faint praise and all that...

Feryk
17th June 10, 09:46 AM
I just read you like a book and suddenly you're non-confrontational.

I say this with all due respect. Grow up.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
17th June 10, 06:24 PM
No!

Harpy
17th June 10, 06:46 PM
Eat your vegetables.

Feryk
18th June 10, 02:49 PM
That's it MJS, no more Hentai tentacle porn for you! To your room!

KO'd N DOA
18th June 10, 03:28 PM
I never became a vegitarian, but in Uni I was challenged to try it for a month, and on the meal plan it was really easy. IRL veggies were obsessive about food, and anemic.

My current diet, is glutten free, so I am finding lots of great stuff, hemp seed, quinoa, ect. Cutting down on the meat too, and as many additives and pre packaged.

Raised a farmer...my inlaws haven't forgotten my bare handing a rabbit from a year ago, or the canadian geese.

Wonder what it would be like to have a moral quandry about taking animals lives for food?

Vieux Normand
18th June 10, 03:52 PM
Wonder what it would be like to have a moral quandry about taking animals lives for food?

Even apex predators (and ex-ape predators) end up feeding maggots and/or microbes.

Everyone gets their turn--or they will when the frozen heads get thawed into putrescence by the next power outage. Cryo me a river...

Ajamil
18th June 10, 08:29 PM
Wonder what it would be like to have a moral quandry about taking animals lives for food?Why just worry about animal life? It isn't possible to obtain food without killing something in this world (yes, plants too - soil nutrients come from dead organic matter). Even if we split hairs and find a creature that lives entirely off inorganic matter, there will be more than one of those creatures, so in order to obtain food, it is denying another of its species the resources to live. The point for me is to do as little harm as possible.

I put it similar to warfare - we have to kill in war. War means (or perhaps should mean) that other options will be more harmful, so now we have to kill. Does that mean turn the enemy's country into slag? Hopefully no. Civilians aren't necessary deaths, so we avoid them.

KO'd N DOA
19th June 10, 09:40 AM
The heading out behind the shed with a hatchet and Penny the hen who don't lay no more eggs...is part of most of our ancestors culture, only recently going out of common practice. I recognize that I am just one of the last remnants of rural North American Culture, before the mass exodus from the family farm to the city.

But I will grant that dressing Penny was something I was introduced to so early in life that I can't evaluate it as an objective non-participant can.

Kiko
6th August 10, 01:06 PM
http://www.picturesofwalls.com/Database/Filestore/013_meat%281%29.jpg

KO'd N DOA
6th August 10, 03:11 PM
http://www.picturesofwalls.com/Database/Filestore/013_meat%281%29.jpg

TAEM
Si
Red Rum
Nag evo G

I see it differently.

Neildo
6th August 10, 03:29 PM
i see the graffiti above and agree

KO'd N DOA
6th August 10, 03:45 PM
Do you mean the subliminal 'COME' that is the background?

fes_fsa
6th August 10, 04:23 PM
i thought it said CUNT.

that cunt meat is murder.

i agree with that statement. cunts should be kept alive for lulz.

Ajamil
6th August 10, 07:50 PM
http://www.picturesofwalls.com/Database/Filestore/013_meat%281%29.jpg

Dammit!
http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/lolcats-pokey.jpg

nihilist
7th August 10, 02:26 AM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2452/278163294v11350x350fron.jpg