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Tyrsmann
29th May 10, 11:13 PM
Memorial Day, when Americans honor the sacrifices and the service of American soldiers. I often wonder what those who serve and have served in our Armed Forces feel about Memorial Day. I can't tell and I'm not going to try. I'll leave that up to them. But what I often think about is my own two Grandfathers. Both who served as Marines in the Pacific. One was even a survivor of the Battle of Pellalu Island. The other was a Golden Gloves Boxer during his time in the military. One was dead before I was 10 and the other one who is still living is getting on in years. I often regret not getting to spend more time with my living Grandfather who is in Wisconsin and I in Iowa. I also wish Lung Cancer had not claimed the life my Paternal Grandfather before I got the chance to really know him as a person. What memories I have of him are those of a young child giggling at a silly grownup. But I cannot change what has happened. I'm sure many here have similar thoughts about loved ones who are veterans.

I have often thought of joining the military myself. But when I look at the wars we have in Iraq and Afghanistan and consider the returning vets I've spoken with. I can only feel a sense of regret. Regret for the lies that were told to justify them and regret for how poorly they've been mismanaged. Most of the stories I have heard from Vets of either have been rather disquieting. The things they saw and the friends they lost. The nightmares they still have. The mildest ones were told to me by a young woman who had served as a medic. But even those were scary to hear. But they also told me about the good things they did. The lives they saved and the shows of gratitude they received from individual Afghans and Iraqis.

Again I'm sure many here have thought joining the military at some point or rather and have their reasons as why they choose not too. For those who I have I can only say while I may not envy the things you experienced or are experiencing. Please know that I believe your service to be a necessary one and I wish you all health and safety.

Have a happy Memorial Day everyone.

Lebell
30th May 10, 06:27 AM
Have a happy Memorial Day everyone.
^^^ American mindset at his finest.

Whats next, a ' have a nice day come again soon' sign at your cemetary of honour?

Ajamil
30th May 10, 07:57 AM
Don't you have some Canadians to honor?

Lebell
30th May 10, 09:58 AM
pffhahahahah!

oh god...

/shakes shead

Adouglasmhor
30th May 10, 10:09 AM
Never mind you still have a chance to organise a memorial day for the Venlo incident. November the 9th.

Cullion
30th May 10, 10:57 AM
I recently tried to join as an airforce reservist but was prevented by a criminal record.
I can try again at the end of next year when it expires, and I still intend to.

Truculent Sheep
30th May 10, 12:18 PM
^^^ American mindset at his finest.

Whats next, a ' have a nice day come again soon' sign at your cemetary of honour?

Why are there so few Korps Mariniers? Because they only recruit Dutch men.

SFGOON
30th May 10, 01:51 PM
Whats next, a ' have a nice day come again soon' sign at your cemetary of honour?

No, I think next we're going to go hunker down on some God-forsaken, thorn-infested, swampy peninsula. Like Florida, except freezing.

Then, we're going to put a sign on the road in that says "NO SPANIARDS ALLOWED." :viking:

Once a year, when the sun actually comes out, we will take a picture of this windmill on top of a hill and put it on a postcard. We will also force the three cute girls in our weirdo tribe to wear wooden shoes. Once that simple act draws the attention of jet-setting perverts, dollar signs will light up in our eyes. :emot-20bux:

Then, to bolster our swampy shithole economy we will legalize hard drugs and let the russian mafia set up brothels for tourists. We will also welcome pedophiles and child pornography, because we are degenerates and love sex with small children. Of course, absolutely no Spaniards will be allowed to partake. :spanky:

All because really, we are too stupid to turn a stinking shithole into a banking haven like the Swiss or a bunch of Caribbean gollywogs. All we can hope to be is a real-life attempt at Mos Eisley. :all_coholic:

Also, we will find Hitler convincing and gleefully take part in the holocaust. :hitlerdance:

Schnell Schnell mein staussenfrau!!!

Adouglasmhor
30th May 10, 05:11 PM
No, I think next we're going to go hunker down on some God-forsaken, thorn-infested, swampy peninsula. Like Florida, except freezing.

Then, we're going to put a sign on the road in that says "NO SPANIARDS ALLOWED." !!

I actually saw a fat Spaniard being pick-pocketed/mugged in Amsterdam once it was hilarious.

First saw him on an evening stroll through the red light district with his wife and kids in tow. (Wife especially looking humiliated and angry and kids picking up on this).

Followed by a young black guy grabbing his camera.

He then gave chase shouting stop thief, police etc. With the thief leisurely running about 6 meters in front of him.

Wife and kids were strolling along laughing at him at this point.

When he (very quickly) got knackered and bent over gasping for air, a second guy stole his manbag.

He looked like he was going to cry.

Serves th prick right taking his family through the reed light at night time.

SFGOON
30th May 10, 05:43 PM
Not "stop, thief! Police!"

He said "Estop! Teef! Policia!"

Also, there are no black guys in Amsterdam. You're thinking of New York. Yup, that's for sure where you must have been.

Fucking Scots. Always drunk, never remember what side of the Earth they were on when they saw a thing happen.

Still, quite funny though.

Tyrsmann
30th May 10, 05:50 PM
^^^ American mindset at his finest.

Whats next, a ' have a nice day come again soon' sign at your cemetary of honour?

Alot of people do grillouts in their backyards on memorial day here. At least my family did.

Lebell
31st May 10, 05:39 AM
I actually saw a fat Spaniard being pick-pocketed/mugged in Amsterdam once it was hilarious.

First saw him on an evening stroll through the red light district with his wife and kids in tow. (Wife especially looking humiliated and angry and kids picking up on this).

Followed by a young black guy grabbing his camera.

He then gave chase shouting stop thief, police etc. With the thief leisurely running about 6 meters in front of him.

Wife and kids were strolling along laughing at him at this point.

When he (very quickly) got knackered and bent over gasping for air, a second guy stole his manbag.

He looked like he was going to cry.

Serves th prick right taking his family through the reed light at night time.

lolol!
awesome! probably nigerians.
i fucking hate nigerians.
you could usually spot them atthe north exit at amsterdam cs.
'eeeyyyy mannn'
fuck off! not a tourist!
' okeyy man'

Lebell
31st May 10, 05:40 AM
No, I think next we're going to go hunker down on some God-forsaken, thorn-infested, swampy peninsula. Like Florida, except freezing.

Then, we're going to put a sign on the road in that says "NO SPANIARDS ALLOWED." :viking:

Once a year, when the sun actually comes out, we will take a picture of this windmill on top of a hill and put it on a postcard. We will also force the three cute girls in our weirdo tribe to wear wooden shoes. Once that simple act draws the attention of jet-setting perverts, dollar signs will light up in our eyes. :emot-20bux:

Then, to bolster our swampy shithole economy we will legalize hard drugs and let the russian mafia set up brothels for tourists. We will also welcome pedophiles and child pornography, because we are degenerates and love sex with small children. Of course, absolutely no Spaniards will be allowed to partake. :spanky:

All because really, we are too stupid to turn a stinking shithole into a banking haven like the Swiss or a bunch of Caribbean gollywogs. All we can hope to be is a real-life attempt at Mos Eisley. :all_coholic:

Also, we will find Hitler convincing and gleefully take part in the holocaust. :hitlerdance:

Schnell Schnell mein staussenfrau!!!

This is about Michigan, isn't it?

Wounded Ronin
31st May 10, 02:15 PM
I actually saw a fat Spaniard being pick-pocketed/mugged in Amsterdam once it was hilarious.

First saw him on an evening stroll through the red light district with his wife and kids in tow. (Wife especially looking humiliated and angry and kids picking up on this).

Followed by a young black guy grabbing his camera.

He then gave chase shouting stop thief, police etc. With the thief leisurely running about 6 meters in front of him.

Wife and kids were strolling along laughing at him at this point.

When he (very quickly) got knackered and bent over gasping for air, a second guy stole his manbag.

He looked like he was going to cry.

Serves th prick right taking his family through the reed light at night time.

That's why physical fitness is important. For catching and beating the shit out of random unarmed European robbers.

Wounded Ronin
31st May 10, 02:17 PM
Happy Memorial Day, everyone. In every war veterans have made tremendous heroic sacrificies, and always in the face of terrible political leadership. How can there be such a disconnect between the decision makers and what is occuring on scene?

Adouglasmhor
31st May 10, 02:33 PM
Not "stop, thief! Police!"

He said "Estop! Teef! Policia!"

Also, there are no black guys in Amsterdam. You're thinking of New York. Yup, that's for sure where you must have been.

Fucking Scots. Always drunk, never remember what side of the Earth they were on when they saw a thing happen.

Still, quite funny though.

He definitely shouted in English, the international language of victimhood.

Plus I had done far too much speed to get drunk. I hadn't had any for over 3 years and did a gram as soon as I got to the Dam.

Plus http://newsfromamsterdam.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/the-police-and-the-running-coloured-man/
http://newsfromamsterdam.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/stop_and_search_london.jpg?w=450

Lebell
31st May 10, 02:37 PM
speed is legal too as lng as you carry under 3 grams.
same goes for coke.

Adouglasmhor
31st May 10, 02:40 PM
lolol!
awesome! probably nigerians.
i fucking hate nigerians.
you could usually spot them atthe north exit at amsterdam cs.
'eeeyyyy mannn'
fuck off! not a tourist!
' okeyy man'

What language you speak. A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh. (DO you speak Gaelic). Thick fuckers didn't even get that they had asked you in English. They would just leave you alone.

And yes they were either Nigerian or Zairean.

Adouglasmhor
31st May 10, 02:41 PM
speed is legal too as lng as you carry under 3 grams.
same goes for coke.

I don't think a military court would have seen it that way though.

Adouglasmhor
31st May 10, 02:43 PM
That's why physical fitness is important. For catching and beating the shit out of random unarmed European robbers.

Their mates are not going to be unarmed when you are leathering the robber. Best not let them get your gear in the first place.

Lebell
31st May 10, 03:08 PM
Their mates are not going to be unarmed when you are leathering the robber. Best not let them get your gear in the first place.
hehe just another american with a big mouth.
i love it how they come here thinking europe is some fairy land where the americans are the exotic tough guys.
they usually get sorted out within 2 days.

Jim_Jude
31st May 10, 06:00 PM
http://www.unionleader.com/uploads/media-items/2006/may/529cartoon.jpg

Ajamil
31st May 10, 06:29 PM
http://loscuatroojos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/only-one-standing.jpg

I come from a family of military, and still have no comprehension of the amount of gratitude to give to our veterans.

Lebell
1st June 10, 04:54 AM
I come from a family of military, and still have no comprehension of the amount of gratitude to give to our veterans.

.....?
really?
what war did veterans fight in where they fought for the sheer survival of the american homeland?
or could that concept be something the government made up?

Cullion
1st June 10, 07:54 AM
Politicians get servicemen killed for the wrong reasons, and the servicemen themselves often end up disagreeing with the political aims, but I think you should always show some respect and gratitude to somebody who risked injury in your government's service.

You really don't want to live in a country where the military makes it's own political decisions about when and who to fight.

Lebell
1st June 10, 08:00 AM
ofcourse.
but its somewhat scary to see how the american people are brainwashed: ZOMG RESPECT YOUR VETERANS!
but the government themselves do very little for those poor guys.
all empty symbolism.
instead of the whole empty heroism cult it'd be better if the american public really did something like getting pissed off at their government for always meddling in affairs getting their soldiers killed.
and demanding there's reasonable veteran pensions for the poor bastards who lost limbs in service of their country.

SFGOON
1st June 10, 09:36 AM
.....?
really?
what war did veterans fight in where they fought for the sheer survival of the american homeland?
or could that concept be something the government made up?

No... they just made it so.... we didn't have to retreat..... into a swamp.... from the Spanish... :icon_rofl:

And become an international drug-pushing nation of whores to maintain some semblance of an economy.

Lebell
1st June 10, 10:30 AM
No... they just made it so.... we didn't have to retreat..... into a swamp.... from the Spanish... :icon_rofl:

And become an international drug-pushing nation of whores to maintain some semblance of an economy.

good drone sfgoon!
thats right: make fun of other countries!
that way you're too busy to actually notice how your own government is fucking you and their 'precious' veterans up the ass.
funny thing is: it's not my problem, it's yours and most of you guys are too stupid to notice you're being manipulated.

if i need surgery in my whoring drug pushing swampland i do not have to worry about losing my house, or being put on the street cos of hospital bills.
how about the greatest country on earth goon?

how bout it?

huh?


lolol!

Kein Haar
1st June 10, 10:35 AM
Yes, it's true.

What are you loling about?

Bestiality porn LITERALLY contributed not insignificantly to your GDP.

Let's all think about that.

Furthermore, the typical American is quite warm and helpful to foreign visitors. That's something to be proud of; as opposed to "sorting them out". What a collective self-esteem problem. Jesus.

Ok, that french couple at the Puerto Rican day parade is an exception.

Lebell
1st June 10, 10:39 AM
all im saying is this: if you stop the false heroism and empty symbolism and drop all that fake patriotism crap you could actually work on social reforms that grant widows of fallen soldiers decent pensions, and disabled veterans would be guaranteed a comfortable life when they cant work anymore.

imo that would be true patriotism, taking care of the people who risked life and limbs, instead of hollow rituals.
im convinced americans can do this.
ive seen cases on tv where for example firemen or policeofficers had fundraising for disabled co workers or the family of fallencomrades.
thats in a way disgusting, i mean that that's needed, the goverment should take care of these people.

Kein Haar
1st June 10, 10:43 AM
You do realize that we don't draft people, right?

You realize enlistment rates are very high, right?

You know the incentives for enlisting and re-enlisting, right?

You realize we have mercenary forces, right?

Most of the warrior class in the U.S. are quite conservative and don't want "social reforms".

Intangible appreciation isn't neccesarily "empty".

Lebell
1st June 10, 10:50 AM
so basically you guys are even more brainwashed than i thought?
wow..go figure...

Kein Haar
1st June 10, 10:56 AM
You have a point.

Cullion
1st June 10, 12:24 PM
Y

Bestiality porn LITERALLY contributed not insignificantly to your GDP.

Let's all think about that.

You mean they're winning at something?

That can't be right.

Ajamil
1st June 10, 03:01 PM
ive seen cases on tv where for example firemen or policeofficers had fundraising for disabled co workers or the family of fallencomrades.
thats in a way disgusting, i mean that that's needed, the goverment should take care of these people.So let me understand you properly. These people - firemen and policemen - see a need, and go out to band people together to raise funds to procure the need they see. They do this all by themselves. And other people support and give to them all by themselves.

And you're saying they should instead sit back and complain that the government doesn't do it for them?

SFGOON
1st June 10, 04:09 PM
all im saying is this: if you stop the false heroism and empty symbolism and drop all that fake patriotism crap you could actually work on social reforms that grant widows of fallen soldiers decent pensions, and disabled veterans would be guaranteed a comfortable life when they cant work anymore.

imo that would be true patriotism, taking care of the people who risked life and limbs, instead of hollow rituals.
im convinced americans can do this.
ive seen cases on tv where for example firemen or policeofficers had fundraising for disabled co workers or the family of fallencomrades.
thats in a way disgusting, i mean that that's needed, the goverment should take care of these people.

How does half a million dollars, $500,000 sound to you? In addition to "death gratuities which amount to about half of that.

It's enough to live off of for more than 20 years.

Add that to free healthcare for life, and having their children's college education completely paid for.

War widows are extremely well taken-care of. As are wounded soldiers.

My father recieves $1000 per month from the government because he served in Vietnam and occasionally gets scared (PTSD.) He also gets free healthcare.

As does my younger sister, who served in Iraq. My brother and I both left the service unscathed, so we get....

"Vetran's Day"

But, we both still have our health, see? I don't know why you don't understand that the US has been a democratic socialist state for more than 40 years now. Most Americans don't know this, but it's a solid fact.

And no aspect of American life gives social benefits more generously than the Department of Defense.

With regard to the fund-raisers, that's an aspect of American culture. It's a community's way of showing love, more than anything. If a cop or firefighter gets hurt out here, TOTAL STRANGERS will donate HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to their family. THOUSANDS OF THEM.

My former department took out some $5 million in life insurance for me, which I never paid for.

Veteran's day is a dog and pony show, yes. But it's not the end of our government supporting the casualties of way.

There's a big fat payout for it.

Why didn't you know all of this? Do you have a fucked-up education system over there, too? You can always go to the public libraries and read there. That's the same as learning.

No need to roll around on the floor cracked out on tulips all day.

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:04 PM
okay, so where do i sign up for bootcamp?
i want something safe, like radar guy or something.

SFGOON
1st June 10, 05:21 PM
As a non-citizen, you can't be granted a security clearance. As a non-mexican-non-resident, I don't know that you're allowed to join at all.

The site, however, is goarmy.com.

Here's the scam: Go in enjoy, have fun. Go to the doctor for EVERY LITTLE THING. Get it on your medical records.

Then, when you're getting out six years later, say to the out-processing people, "Ich habe mein leg gehurted!!" Insist you hurt it doing Army stuff of some sort.
(Don't worry, they will understand you. All Army admin personell are either ignorant southerners or hausfraus brought home from the land of Deuschtenschnitzel.)

Tell the doctor it still hurts every day.

You will be awarded a lot of money - essentially a small monthly penion.

???????

Profit.

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:24 PM
As a non-citizen, you can't be granted a security clearance. As a non-mexican-non-resident, I don't know that you're allowed to join at all.

The site, however, is goarmy.com.

Here's the scam: Go in enjoy, have fun. Go to the doctor for EVERY LITTLE THING. Get it on your medical records.

Then, when you're getting out six years later, say to the out-processing people, "Ich habe mein leg gehurted!!" Insist you hurt it doing Army stuff of some sort.
(Don't worry, they will understand you. All Army admin personell are either ignorant southerners or hausfraus brought home from the land of Deuschtenschnitzel.)

Tell the doctor it still hurts every day.

You will be awarded a lot of money - essentially a small monthly penion.

???????

Profit.


Sounds good!
Do i also get to torture prisoners like ive seen on tv?
or just execute them?

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:25 PM
Then, when you're getting out six years later, say to the out-processing people, "Ich habe mein leg gehurted!!" Insist you hurt it doing Army stuff of some sort.
(Don't worry, they will understand you. All Army admin personell are either ignorant southerners or hausfraus brought home from the land of Deuschtenschnitzel.)

Tell the doctor it still hurts every day.

You will be awarded a lot of money - essentially a small monthly penion.

???????

Profit.

' ai hez hurt mai back from hitting zhe iraqi to death with her own babee. i shink ai pulled a muzzle.'

SFGOON
1st June 10, 05:25 PM
Oh, and by the way;














Wait for it.....






































Wait for it.......










OH SNAP!!

OH YEAH!! I SANK YOUR LITTLE TROLL JOB LIKE A DUTCH "BATTLESHIP!!"

I FEEL LIKE A SPANISH ADMIRAL!!

OH SNAP!!

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:27 PM
Oh, and by the way;














Wait for it.....






































Wait for it.......










OH SNAP!!

OH YEAH!! I SANK YOUR LITTLE TROLL JOB LIKE A DUTCH "BATTLESHIP!!"

I FEEL LIKE A SPANISH ADMIRAL!!

OH SNAP!!

which spanish admiral would that be?
The one whose armada we sunk or one of those silly twats whose ships we've raided?

holland-spain on seawarfare is like 120-0

SFGOON
1st June 10, 05:28 PM
' ai hez hurt mai back from hitting zhe iraqi to death with her own babee. i shink ai pulled a muzzle.'


Mmmm - no. I think you want these guys:

http://www.mossad.gov.il/Eng/AboutUs.aspx

But they don't give benefits to Dutch turncoats.

Nobody does, actually.

SFGOON
1st June 10, 05:35 PM
which spanish admiral would that be?
The one whose armada we sunk or one of those silly twats whose ships we've raided?

holland-spain on seawarfare is like 120-0

No, those were English who sank them.

You guys were too busy hiding in your swamp. "Komm unt ghet uns!" You shrieked from under a lily pad.

Later, you set sail, carefully avoiding the English and Spanish, colonizing South Africa and Indonesia.

You lost Indonesia, and had to form a government on par with Pol Pot in SA to maintain order. Which predictably crumbled under English might with a little help from the Tsutsi tribes.

I know Dutch history.

I know Dutch history, Lebell.

I know Dutch history.

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:37 PM
i knew you were pretty stupid...but this surprises me.
in a good way though.
good for me that is.

Cullion
1st June 10, 05:37 PM
As a non-citizen, you can't be granted a security clearance. As a non-mexican-non-resident, I don't know that you're allowed to join at all.

The site, however, is goarmy.com.

Apparently, it can be done:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,512384,00.html

You should make it official and have a foreign legion that gets all the shit jobs and has much nastier PT and more brutal discipline, in return for citizenship after 5 years. It's worked elsewhere pretty well.

Don't let Lebell join tho.

Adouglasmhor
1st June 10, 05:43 PM
The MSO only ever got British Overseas citizenship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_Service_Organisation , sweet.

Lebell
1st June 10, 05:49 PM
tust me, the military is nothing i'd wanna try.
im looking fr less disci[pline and moar rape and plunder and excsessive cruelty.

Cullion
1st June 10, 05:56 PM
Just go out on the street and do it then. Right now.

Oh that's right, you don't want to get into trouble

Lebell
1st June 10, 06:04 PM
dude im probably going to get married and have babies.
i have to be responsible and stuff.

SFGOON
1st June 10, 07:34 PM
Apparently, it can be done:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,512384,00.html

You should make it official and have a foreign legion that gets all the shit jobs and has much nastier PT and more brutal discipline, in return for citizenship after 5 years. It's worked elsewhere pretty well.

Don't let Lebell join tho.

That program is aimed squarely at illegal Mexican immigrants. Latinos make excellent soldiers.

Ajamil
1st June 10, 07:38 PM
Ha!
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3796/immigration.jpg

Lebell
2nd June 10, 02:43 AM
That program is aimed squarely at illegal Mexican immigrants. Latinos make excellent soldiers.

and also great landscapers and lovers if you believe popular media!

Cullion
2nd June 10, 02:51 AM
That program is aimed squarely at illegal Mexican immigrants. Latinos make excellent soldiers.

The article mentions a german citizen who did it.

Lebell
2nd June 10, 02:57 AM
forget it, from all the armies in the world the usa army would be one of the last ones i'd go to war with.
excellent equipped, but oh boy the people are so fucking dumb..

SFGOON
2nd June 10, 10:46 AM
Says the little Dutch boy who didn't even bother to do his research before accusing the DoD of abandoning their wounded and families of the fallen.

Remember how you said all that ignorant dumb shit a few pages ago, and I totally PWNED you?

Remember that? Do you? Yeah, you remember.

SFGOON
2nd June 10, 10:51 AM
The article mentions a german citizen who did it.

In the spirit of fairness, the US lets everyone (almost, good luck if you're North Korean,) enter the program. 'Cuz if the federal government is serious about anything, it's being fair at the cost of efficiency.

But I bitch too much, as Americans tend to do with the Federal Government. 300 million cantankerous assholes throwing around 14.6 trillion dollars is hard to administer poorly. The fed has reached the heights of mediocrity, which all things considered is quite spectacular.

But again, that program is aimed squarely at young latinos from illegal immigrant families. There's more marketing for it in Spanish than English.

Zendetta
2nd June 10, 11:00 AM
iirc, Latinos have the highest number of Medals of Honor per capita.

Lebell
2nd June 10, 11:44 AM
Says the little Dutch boy who didn't even bother to do his research before accusing the DoD of abandoning their wounded and families of the fallen.

Remember how you said all that ignorant dumb shit a few pages ago, and I totally PWNED you?

Remember that? Do you? Yeah, you remember.

americans seem to have a strange idea about pwning.
oh wait i get it, you pwned me like you pwned vietnam, afghanistan, iraq etc?


yeah..you totally pwned me bro!
lolol!

Adouglasmhor
2nd June 10, 12:29 PM
the Dutch totally pwned the Bosnian Serb army then?

Lebell
2nd June 10, 12:53 PM
im not the dude on the macho trip.
sfgon tried to be clever bout pwning and the military.

SFGOON
2nd June 10, 01:12 PM
I could only be clever because you were not.

You actually thought, you totally believed, that the US has no social support for victims of war!

Where did this come from? Did you just make it up?

Fortunately, you had me to point out that your premises were wrong, and that your conclusion regarding Memorial Day being a means of pandering to victims of American imperialism were also wrong.

Veteran's day is the icing on the cake for war veterans. The substance is a pension and free medical care.

As for Afghanistan - how are the Taliban doing these days? Good?

Is Saddam Hussien still in control of Iraq?

Is Iraq still occupying Kuwait?

Has North Korea invaded South Korea?

Do you NATO members have to spend any money on defense, or is someone better than you protecting your borders? What do you do with the leftover tax revenue?

At least I live in a nation worth being macho about. You live in a country of dike-tending pedophiles in clogs.

You probably wearing clogs right now. And you've got one finger plugging a leak in a dike. The other one is likely up a basset-hound's ass. Your mother is filming it, to bring in additional money to your standing-there salary.

Lebell
2nd June 10, 01:31 PM
You actually thought, you totally believed, that the US has no social support for victims of war!

Where did this come from? Did you just make it up?
* not really.
my image is mostly formed of my talks with military americans retired or on rand r from rammstein base, and to a lesser extend moore's documentaries (though im suspecting that guy to be hugely biased)
dont forget that in my town there's a huge american community.

your ideas of mercifull social aid is most likely barbarian in eurpean eyes.
however im not sure.


Veteran's day is the icing on the cake for war veterans. The substance is a pension and free medical care.
* oh im sorry, i guess all those footage of ptsd veterans are all hired actors?
my bad.

As for Afghanistan - how are the Taliban doing these days? Good?
*they're doing great:Karzai is giving them positions within his central government as means to pacify them and they expanded bussiness into pakistan which has tactical nukes!
good job bozo's!

Is Saddam Hussien still in control of Iraq?
* no, instead of one regime you can deal with,its now a terrorist funland where fanatical factions struggle for power! nice move!

Is Iraq still occupying Kuwait?
*no your resources are safe for now...

Has North Korea invaded South Korea?
* not yet, give it time.
after all the usa is backing them into a desperate corner.


Do you NATO members have to spend any money on defense, or is someone better than you protecting your borders? What do you do with the leftover tax revenue?
* you mean the bunch of countries you're always begging to help you cos you lack equipment and your troops are underqualified and overstretched? those members?
*=me.

SFGOON
2nd June 10, 02:49 PM
* We can't force them to get treatment. Those who are on the streets do so by choice. Most of them still recieve government benefits, and they still panhandle. We let them.

* The Taliban have always had close ties with Pakistan. My source, Captain Shaffquat of the Pakistani Armor Corps, a friend of mine. Karazi's attempt at reconciliation, and the willingness of Taliban members to participate in his government, are a strong sign of progress in the region.

* So you're saying Iraq was just fine under Baathist dictatorship? This is simply what Iraqi democracy looks like at the moment. Acts of violence have always played a role in Middle Eastern politics. At least now those who commit these atrocities are tried and hanged, rather than having their actions sanctioned by the sitting government. Once Iraq's economy improves, such incidents will become increasingly scarce.

* While Kuwait was and is oil-rich, there are other nation's whose reserves dwarf theirs. The gulf war was spearheaded by a large coalition sanctioned by the UN. The war was fought because Saddam Hussein invaded without provocation. Your lads were there as well, if I recall correctly.

* We're involved in three wars, two of which EU member nations have a vested interest. Commanding such large swaths of geography is a manpower game, and the more troops available the more benefit everyone reaps.

The fact that most nations (yours included,) have indeed committed forces to our causes worldwide speaks volumes about our clout and power, both economic and military.

I think the last nation to cast their lot with a Dutch problem was the beloved Kaiser Wilhelm II nearly 100 years ago.

Too bad your sorry attempts at colonizing shitholes failed. Perhaps then you'd have industry that didn't involve drugs, kiddie porn and not drowning.

Oh, and tulips too. You fucks colonized where you did for fucking TULIPS. Stupid sons of bitches.

Then the Nips kicked you guys out and used your women as sex slaves for dirty Japanese conscripts.

This, Lebell, is why you are slightly slitty-eyed.

Ajamil
2nd June 10, 03:53 PM
iirc, Latinos have the highest number of Medals of Honor per capita.Serious machismo in the Latino community. Did you see 187? Like that but cool cuz military makes it legal.

Lebell
3rd June 10, 06:59 AM
* We can't force them to get treatment. Those who are on the streets do so by choice. Most of them still recieve government benefits, and they still panhandle. We let them.

*riiiiight....

* The Taliban have always had close ties with Pakistan. My source, Captain Shaffquat of the Pakistani Armor Corps, a friend of mine. Karazi's attempt at reconciliation, and the willingness of Taliban members to participate in his government, are a strong sign of progress in the region.

lebell: ah nice spin! so whatever happened to 'punishing the guilty smoking them out, laadeedah evil axis etc' ?


* So you're saying Iraq was just fine under Baathist dictatorship? This is simply what Iraqi democracy looks like at the moment. Acts of violence have always played a role in Middle Eastern politics. At least now those who commit these atrocities are tried and hanged, rather than having their actions sanctioned by the sitting government. Once Iraq's economy improves, such incidents will become increasingly scarce.

lebell: the usa CREATED saddams regime you dumb fuck, if you fucking inbred idiots would just stop meddeling you'd be surprised how well things could be.
you create a problem, then let it fester for decades, then jump in to 'solve' the problem and create a shitstorm of instability and hate for the west throughout the arab world.
superior tactics indeed.


* While Kuwait was and is oil-rich, there are other nation's whose reserves dwarf theirs. The gulf war was spearheaded by a large coalition sanctioned by the UN. The war was fought because Saddam Hussein invaded without provocation. Your lads were there as well, if I recall correctly.


yes the dutch army usually follows the american allies.
except they usually do a better job when it comes to fighting and interacting with the locals.
please google things like battle of tarin kowt and go from there.
also have a quick look how big of a chunk of airsupport is given by the dutch airforce.
dutch airforce are the dudes who dont cause friendly fire, its a relatively new concept to the american airforce, but its never too late to learn, amirite?


* We're involved in three wars, two of which EU member nations have a vested interest. Commanding such large swaths of geography is a manpower game, and the more troops available the more benefit everyone reaps.

lebell: what benefits?
srsly?
wat fuckng benefits, you halfwit?


The fact that most nations (yours included,) have indeed committed forces to our causes worldwide speaks volumes about our clout and power, both economic and military.

lebell:no its proof that the usa is a big bully, a nation of halfwitted obese idiots that stumble from one debacle to another, forcing other countries to pick sides.
the world wil be relieved once the usa is replaced with china as superpower.
you have no idea how many people are fed up with the usa as superpower.

I think the last nation to cast their lot with a Dutch problem was the beloved Kaiser Wilhelm II nearly 100 years ago.

lebell:yawn.

Too bad your sorry attempts at colonizing shitholes failed. Perhaps then you'd have industry that didn't involve drugs, kiddie porn and not drowning.

Lebell:yeah dude we failed big time, its not like our cities were build on the money our empire brought us.
the only reason we lost idonesia we because of the faggoty usa meddeling, the war was going quite wel for us.

Oh, and tulips too. You fucks colonized where you did for fucking TULIPS. Stupid sons of bitches.

lebell: history phail part...i lost count.


Then the Nips kicked you guys out and used your women as sex slaves for dirty Japanese conscripts.

lebell: omg im sooooooooo insulted rait now!


This, Lebell, is why you are slightly slitty-eyed.
lebell: hm..i am slightly slitty eyed..i will look into this..



roflcopter.

SFGOON
3rd June 10, 10:28 AM
Why did the US support Saddam Hussein Lebell? What was the other evil?

I googled Tarin Kowt - it seems to be a victory of US Army unconventional warfare tactics.

It's easy to not cause friendly fire casualties when your pilots are 1. few and 2. refuse to engage in anything resembling "battle." Nothing scares the Dutch worse than the idea of "honor."

Benefits? Have you read "The Wealth Of Nations?" Basically, the more troops you get on the ground faster, the sooner the geography can be controlled (and with less casualties, too.) Kind of like what Hitler did to you. Then, the country's economy can be re-mobilized and with the greater diversity in trade, everyone is better off.

The US is a big fat stupid bully populated by the same? Well, I think a mighty nation like the Netherlands with your sniper air force could easily stand up to us! And yet, your soldiers are committed to the same causes as ours. What gives? Could it be that not having to spend tax dollars on a large Army allows you to spend it all on social benefits? 60 years of the Marshall Plan, baby! The USA subsidizes and stabilized all of Europe!

Of course, the Chinese would directly tax you and end your weekly pensions you become entilited to at 18. But don't you worry your tulip-addled head. We won't let that happen. Bitch all you please.

If your empire was so vast then why do Belguim and Luxembourg still exist? I'd think you'd go all expansionist if your empirical ambitions were going well - not build a bunch of cities on swamps.

Having all your women enslaved and raped by Japs is not "going well" in terms of war. It may be the very best you've done recently, but winning a war begins with NOT having your people directly forced into sex-slavery by a bunch of sandal-wearing goldfish tenders.

When you "yawn," I know for a fact it's to cover your barbaric, infantile, murderous rage you filthy unwashed disease ridden Hun son of a whore.

Lebell
3rd June 10, 01:02 PM
oh boi..the stoopit is even stronger the i feared.
ready?
here we go!


Why did the US support Saddam Hussein Lebell? What was the other evil?

*iran....also a country created by the fuckups of the cia.
lolol you really suck at this, bro.

I googled Tarin Kowt - it seems to be a victory of US Army unconventional warfare tactics.

* figures.
it were mostly dutch forces dude.

It's easy to not cause friendly fire casualties when your pilots are 1. few and 2. refuse to engage in anything resembling "battle." Nothing scares the Dutch worse than the idea of "honor."

* inform yourself about the role of the dutch airforce, ask veterans.

Benefits? Have you read "The Wealth Of Nations?" Basically, the more troops you get on the ground faster, the sooner the geography can be controlled (and with less casualties, too.) Kind of like what Hitler did to you. Then, the country's economy can be re-mobilized and with the greater diversity in trade, everyone is better off.

*lmao....yeah thats prob why germany had all its factories within its own borders and could 'easily outproduce the ussr!' right?
ffs...

The US is a big fat stupid bully populated by the same? Well, I think a mighty nation like the Netherlands with your sniper air force could easily stand up to us! And yet, your soldiers are committed to the same causes as ours. What gives? Could it be that not having to spend tax dollars on a large Army allows you to spend it all on social benefits? 60 years of the Marshall Plan, baby! The USA subsidizes and stabilized all of Europe!

*if you and themajority of americans really believe this its even worsethen i thought..


Of course, the Chinese would directly tax you and end your weekly pensions you become entilited to at 18. But don't you worry your tulip-addled head. We won't let that happen. Bitch all you please.

*yes you will let china become the next superpower because gezz what: usa is already declining.
of all the superpowers yours probably has been the most pathetic one we've seen: they rose after ww2 where they let the ussr do the fighting, then unable to force a vicotry had to share the hegemony over the world with that same ussr.
then FINALLY mid 80ies it looked like you were going to 'win' and now, 2010 are allready outclassed by china in every aspect, china is just waiting for you guys to stumble in the next debacle so it can outmaneuvre you as painless as can be.
why?
cos your petty nation isretarded enough to actually nuke the globe instead of taking a step back.
make no mistake: 100years from now schoolchildren around the world will learn about the usa as an example of a heartless cold egotistical society that manipulated its people, claiming to be defenders of 'democracy and freedom'.
they wil get taught in chinese ofcourse.
;-)



If your empire was so vast then why do Belguim and Luxembourg still exist? I'd think you'd go all expansionist if your empirical ambitions were going well - not build a bunch of cities on swamps.
*this proves you have no clue about the wide range of types of empires.


Having all your women enslaved and raped by Japs is not "going well" in terms of war. It may be the very best you've done recently, but winning a war begins with NOT having your people directly forced into sex-slavery by a bunch of sandal-wearing goldfish tenders.

* history phail no...nope still lost count, i was referring to the indonesian independance war, where the rebels were getting their asses handed over to them by the dutch military until the usa decided to meddle.
now indonesia houses lots of terrorist organisations who are active throughout the whole of south east asia.
nice move dickheads!


When you "yawn," I know for a fact it's to cover your barbaric, infantile, murderous rage you filthy unwashed disease ridden Hun son of a whore.
* nope, as i just pointed out my yawn, is just really what it s: a yawn.
if you would like to envoke my rafe you better get sum eddukashun.
going john wayne doesnt impress me much.


lolzers!

resolve
3rd June 10, 01:14 PM
good drone sfgoon!
thats right: make fun of other countries!
that way you're too busy to actually notice how your own government is fucking you


IRONY

Lebell
3rd June 10, 01:19 PM
IRONY

no irony would be if i made fun of the usa in the one dimensional way sfgoon is doing.
im actually pointing out existing situations in modern day american society.

so..no irony.

SFGOON
3rd June 10, 02:38 PM
no irony would be if i made fun of the usa in the one dimensional way sfgoon is doing.
im actually pointing out existing situations in modern day american society.

so..no irony.

Except for the part where you didn't know the US provides social benefits to war wounded and survivors of dead soldiers. Remember, that whole made-up ignorant Dutch premise you came up with? The one you could have realized wasn't the case with a simple google search?

Is your education system based entirely around believing your knee-jerk assumptions to be incontrovertible truth? Or did you just not finish University?

So let me get this straight - you think Ayatollah Khomeini was the CIA? You're about 30 years off. The US installed the Shah as head of state in the 1950's to stop a communist regime in Iran - one closely linked to the Soviet Union.

If you have sources saying Tarin Kowt was a Dutch campaign, I'd like to see them. From my experience in Special Warfare, that is a textbook USSOCOM doctrine campaign. I'd be surprised if Dutch forces were anywhere near Afghanistan in 2001. European "Special Forces" tend to be crack commandos rather than guerilla warfare specialists, as the latter is only an asset to countries with imperial ambitions.

It looks like your guys fly the outdated, American built F-16 from Lockheed-Martin and your contribution to sorties during the Balkans campaign was about 7.5% Looks like most of what was done by the RNAF was just a lot of recon. Nothing to get too excited about. Of course I'm sure your schools touted it as a staggering and glorious victory for the Dutch.

If you're referring to WWII Germany/USSR, you should understand that the Soviets undertook a campaign of strategic retreat, burning their cities behind them thus denying their resources to the Nazis. Also, anyone who's taken military strategy 101 would place his war factories as far from the action as possible. When you're fighting in a theater where your opponents have overland access to your capitol, that becomes even more important - as was the European theater in WWII.

That the US nuclear umbrella and strategic alliances allow you to spend more money on social welfare is a fundamental pillar of economics. Look up "Bullets and Beans." It also allows more stable unemployment levels in Europe, google "John Maynard Keynes."

China has a LONG way to go before they approach the economy and military level of the US. While they're currently enjoying a decent growth rate, there are leading indicators that much of it is due to an economic "bubble," and China may well soon experience a strong recession or depression of it's own. They are also burdened by a massive population and bizarre demographics. The US has 430% more money with 33% the population. The largest sector of Chinese industry is agriculture at 39% of labor. The US? 37% professional/technical with only .07% working in agriculture.

Also:

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/43135512df7946a34e63a6ee2747ad0e/Security-Beijing.jpg

China is more likely to become the 51st state than it is a world hegemon.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Benelux is some kind of Dutch-ruled empire? Or that you somehow hold sway over South Africa? Quit pretending the Netherlands matter anymore. They don't.

I just scanned the article on the Indonesian Revolution. It looks like your boys took the $1 billion US dollars we gave you to rebuild your swamp and used it to fund a series of massacres in Indonesia. You all finally stopped when we threatened to take the money back. Based off the kinds of tactics used, (arguably ethnic cleansing,) it seems as though you were trying to re-establish a slave state. Even with the communist and jihadist guerrillas, they're better of than they would have been under the Dutch. You should be ashamed.

But a nation of whores and pedophiles likely knows no shame.

lant3rn
3rd June 10, 10:54 PM
no irony would be if i made fun of the usa in the one dimensional way sfgoon is doing.
im actually pointing out existing situations in modern day american society.

so..no irony.

IDIOCY

Lebell
4th June 10, 04:36 AM
'lalala, USA USA USA!
YOUR COUNTRY SUX UR SMALL WERZ BIGGG LMAO LMAO LMAO!





I really had a couple of good laughs, but you have no idea how to handle yourself in a discussion, instead it seems lie you're drifting in and out psychotic fits.
you really suck at trolling, and i hope that one day your fat ass does some travelling so you can expand your horizon a bit.
because right now you're a very very ignorant person.
lemme know when you drop by in lolland i know a whorehouse where they have the best 5yr old girls!

zomg!
lolol

Kein Haar
4th June 10, 07:55 AM
lemme know when you drop by in lolland i know a whorehouse where they have the best 5yr old girls!

Was that supposed to be some sort of exaggeration?

I can't tell, what with all the actual sexual abuse tolerated in lolland.

And animal porn.

And junkies.

That's like me saying: "Lol, ignorant twat. Come to North America and see our, um, hahaa, so-called white tail deer getting shot by hunters in November. Jeah, right....sure....oh, deer will be slaughtered by the thousands all right. Suuuurre...come check it out!"

And you'd go: "Um, ok....cuz that does actually happen. Doesn't it?"

And I'd just not respond back, cuz I'd be a douche.

And by suggesting that Goon travel, I'm sure you mean somewhere as interesting as the incredibly diverse and tightly grouped crumbling socialist states where you can get by with just english really well? That sounds like a real adventure...hanging out with various forms of liberal douchey white people who can distinguish us by our shoes.

Lebell
4th June 10, 08:18 AM
Europe is the mother of all great civilisations, the pearl that graces this world.
We invented democracy, freedom, enlightenment.
It was us who stopped Xerxes and his unholy hordes.
It was us that wtfpwned the heathens during the crusades.

You are just jealous we don't want you back here.

Ajamil
4th June 10, 08:34 AM
Momma got old and senile and needs to be put in a home.

Cullion
4th June 10, 08:58 AM
What's all this about child abuse and animal porn ?

lant3rn
4th June 10, 12:02 PM
What's all this about child abuse and animal porn ?

Lebell is discussing his enjoymnet indulging both activities.

SFGOON
4th June 10, 12:50 PM
I really had a couple of good laughs, but you have no idea how to handle yourself in a discussion, instead it seems lie you're drifting in and out psychotic fits.
you really suck at trolling, and i hope that one day your fat ass does some travelling so you can expand your horizon a bit.
because right now you're a very very ignorant person.
lemme know when you drop by in lolland i know a whorehouse where they have the best 5yr old girls!

zomg!
lolol

Well, I hope you come to the US soon and expand your horizons, as well. You could go to one of our Universities and finally learn some history that wasn't written by a Dutch Revisionist with Ethnocentric leanings.

Admitedly, I hate Afrikaners - a lot. That probably carries over against the Dutch as well. Apartheid in SA, child porn and sex slaves in the Netherlands. What's not to hate?

There is a huge body of historical information to which your education did not expose you.

I've worked with soldiers from almost all NATO members - except the newer ones. The only countries with soldiers I respect are the U.K., Colombians, and Pakistanis. The rest exhibited poor professionalism and cowardice - something which was tolerated by their commanders.

The Netherlands is a major destination for pedophiles, sex slavery, and child pornography. There are also serious problems with narcotics abuse and cross-border trafficking.

Fortunately, most of your country is below sea level, and once the polar ice caps are gone, the Netherlands will just be a bad memory.

If that happens, the US will accept the Dutch as refugees with open arms, as we have for all colors and creeds of people throughout our short history.

If these refugees want social benefits that rival what they received in their homeland, they just have to complete a two-year tour of duty in one of our uniformed services.

As the thread originally suggested, we honor our veterans. Not just with two empty holidays, but with tangible material support.

Adouglasmhor
4th June 10, 02:29 PM
Well, I hope you come to the US soon and expand your horizons, as well. You could go to one of our Universities and finally learn some history that wasn't written by a Dutch Revisionist with Ethnocentric leanings.

Admitedly, I hate Afrikaners - a lot. That probably carries over against the Dutch as well. Apartheid in SA, child porn and sex slaves in the Netherlands. What's not to hate?

There is a huge body of historical information to which your education did not expose you.

I've worked with soldiers from almost all NATO members - except the newer ones. The only countries with soldiers I respect are the U.K., Colombians, and Pakistanis. The rest exhibited poor professionalism and cowardice - something which was tolerated by their commanders.

The Netherlands is a major destination for pedophiles, sex slavery, and child pornography. There are also serious problems with narcotics abuse and cross-border trafficking.

Fortunately, most of your country is below sea level, and once the polar ice caps are gone, the Netherlands will just be a bad memory.

If that happens, the US will accept the Dutch as refugees with open arms, as we have for all colors and creeds of people throughout our short history.

If these refugees want social benefits that rival what they received in their homeland, they just have to complete a two-year tour of duty in one of our uniformed services.

As the thread originally suggested, we honor our veterans. Not just with two empty holidays, but with tangible material support.

Have you ever worked with Irish and Danes, I would add them to the list on my experience?

Cullion
4th June 10, 02:50 PM
Ireland aren't in NATO, but they do have exchange programmes and send people to the US to learn specific stuff from the US military.

Adouglasmhor
4th June 10, 03:23 PM
There was an Ircon in Cyprus, UNPKF I worked with their Signals there and Dancon, thet was the unholy trinity for some reason we socialised together and got on.

Lebell
4th June 10, 06:39 PM
I've worked with soldiers from almost all NATO members - except the newer ones. The only countries with soldiers I respect are the U.K., Colombians, and Pakistanis. The rest exhibited poor professionalism and cowardice - something which was tolerated by their commanders.



funny, ive seen similar behaviur with americans.
not so much cowardice, they're to goddamn stupid for that.
but gross unprofessionality.


The Netherlands is a major destination for pedophiles, sex slavery, and child pornography. There are also serious problems with narcotics abuse and cross-border trafficking.


thats bs.
were you ever here you'd know that.
but keep talking out of your ass.

Cullion
4th June 10, 06:41 PM
funny, ive seen similar behaviur with americans.
not so much cowardice, they're to goddamn stupid for that.
but gross unprofessionality.


Which military were you serving in when you saw this behaviour by American soldiers ?

SFGOON
4th June 10, 07:36 PM
funny, ive seen similar behaviur with americans.
not so much cowardice, they're to goddamn stupid for that.
but gross unprofessionality.

Do expound.


thats bs.
were you ever here you'd know that.
but keep talking out of your ass.

What I'm saying is factually accurate.

If you don't believe me, believe the UN. (http://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/Global_Report_on_TIP.pdf)

If you don't beleive the UN, maybe your own countrymen will persuade you. (http://static.rnw.nl/migratie/www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/ams070921mc-redirected)

Living in a prosperous, egalitarian society is easy when you build it on a foundation of an invisible class of slaves, isn't it? First you built your nation on the backs of Indonesian indentured workers on the other side of the world - well away from Dutch society. When that fell through for you, you started building it on the asses of your mothers and sisters, confined out of sight in brothels - again well away from Dutch society.

I'm not saying it just the Dutch who do it either. France has vast ghettos - sequestered from French society, where Muslims live. Literal institutionalized racism while peoples of Gallic descent bitch that a 30 hour workweek is too much and their jobs must be guaranteed.

I myself have little patience for arrogant continental soliloquies on the social inequities being remedied in the US when they themselves cannot admit, let alone muster the courage to confront, their own.

lant3rn
4th June 10, 07:40 PM
Maybe Lebell doesn't want admit his countries problems with sex trafficking because he is personally invested in it?

SFGOON
4th June 10, 07:45 PM
I doubt he could even find De Wallen without consulting a map or GPS. His life is all windmills, dikes, clogs, and grassy knolls with wildflowers.

Cullion
4th June 10, 07:51 PM
That was a magnificent screed, with the exception that you inferred the muslims living in the ghettoes of cities like Paris represent some kind of slave class. They don't.

They live on the largess of taxpayers, in the main. It's sorta like affirmitive action, without the.. action.

Vieux Normand
4th June 10, 08:01 PM
That was a magnificent screed, with the exception that you inferred the muslims living in the ghettoes of cities like Paris represent some kind of slave class. They don't.

They live on the largess of taxpayers, in the main. It's sorta like affirmitive action, without the.. action.

Hard not to miss that. I just filed it next to "China will more likely become the 51st state..."

*sits back and waits for more SFG/lebell mutual pump 'n' squirt*

SFGOON
4th June 10, 08:12 PM
Shut up you blackshirt heathen!

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/645af0f40b20be3dc3d5bfcc8d9bfcbc/CHINA.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/5a5ecc60522d61c995222d813da9f36b/Chinese-Consumerism.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/Features/51ebc471abd19bae5a4dea152f38a8d6/Chinese-workers-clean-the-exterior-of-a-McDonalds-in-Beijing_12.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/Features/595c39cd6f1c7730de6c6042f01c1a52/Chinse-man-walks-past-a-giant-billboard-of-Barbie-in-Beijing_20.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/Features/8175a78d0387314b4f1e29816a481517/Chinese-shop-at-an-outdoor-clothes-market-for-fake-goods-in-Beijing_21.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/Features/8448399cbc31f30cb425584a93f75b5d/A-Chinese-art-student-sketches-buildings-in-Hunan-Province_23.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/Features/dab3e49624524c08166f3b08d8a316e3/Chinese-Hooters-waitresses-pose-for-a-photograph-in-Beijing_2.jpg

They're begging - BEGGING to join the union.

Cullion
4th June 10, 08:14 PM
I see what they're begging to be united with.

SFGOON
4th June 10, 08:19 PM
Dr. Nye totally forgot about big-tit hot bitches in hot pants when he wrote "Soft Power."

Vieux Normand
4th June 10, 08:21 PM
They're begging - BEGGING to join the union.

...or they're merely curious about who's up-to-the-eyeballs in debt to them.

Meanwhile, whar's teh dutchmonger? This needs to become st00pit again.

Ajamil
4th June 10, 08:43 PM
wall of pics
My three word rebuttal:
Made in China.

Although my uncle recently bought a wrench set that said made in India. I was glad to see their manufacturing stepping up.

Kein Haar
4th June 10, 08:53 PM
What's all this about child abuse and animal porn ?

You are the single most coy human being I've ever met.

SFGOON
4th June 10, 09:16 PM
Lebell wearing blonde faux dreads and a wicker hat:


http://i.imgur.com/D7UCP.jpg

God-damn Dutch people.

Adouglasmhor
5th June 10, 01:01 AM
The UN report was interesting but why Stats for the UK? Scotland, NI and England and Wales all compile separately. Scotland had a major crackdown on trafficking over the last couple of years, Chinese and East European brothels were raided. They also changed the Law so that women who had been forced to work as prostitutes were no longer criminalised. England and Wales followed suit on that soon after.

Before that if a woman was found to be working in a brothel even under duress they were classed as a criminal and deported back to whatever shit hole they had been kidnapped or conned away from.

The most common form of abuse of this nature here is debt slavery, where criminals take most or all of someone's earnings to service a debt. I love seeing these bastards going to jail but they are starting to form Jail gangs now there are so many of them.

Lebell
5th June 10, 04:44 AM
goon sure has some deeply retarded views on te world.
are you married?

Adouglasmhor
5th June 10, 07:31 AM
Just watching the respected documentary "Band of Brothers", the Dutch in that sure seem happy that someone is fighting the Krauts. I supose having them for near neighbours they have less time for them than the coastal swampies.

Lebell
5th June 10, 08:33 AM
band of brothersd a respected documentary?
wow..

Kein Haar
6th June 10, 02:00 AM
People had drained relatively high lying swampland to use it as farmland. This drainage caused the fertile peat to compress and the ground level to drop, whereby they would lower the water level to compensate for the drop in ground level, causing the underlying peat to compress even more. The problem remains unsolvable to this day.

lol

Adouglasmhor
6th June 10, 05:48 AM
band of brothersd a respected documentary?
wow..

They got the date of D Day right. If I have to put up with wankers thinking Braveheart is a true story you can put up with band of brothers.

Plus Wah.

Lebell
6th June 10, 06:05 AM
They got the date of D Day right. If I have to put up with wankers thinking Braveheart is a true story you can put up with band of brothers.

Plus Wah.

I know the 'true' story or historical account of the bruce and wallace, they were both quite the bastards, assasinating rivals in churches etc.
not sympathetic people at all.