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OZZ
8th May 10, 07:37 PM
This is what more countries need to do to those Somali pirates..Ransom? I think not, motherfuckers..




Russian marines storm hijacked oil tankerBy the CNN Wire Staff
May 6, 2010 6:20 a.m. EDT



(CNN) -- Russian marines have stormed a tanker hijacked by pirates in the Gulf of Aden, freeing its 23 man crew and cargo of oil reported to be worth up to $50 million, naval officials said Thursday.

None of the crew was injured in the early morning rescue operation by marines from the Marshal Shaposhnikov. The Russian Prosecutor's Office said one pirate was killed and some were wounded. Ten pirates were taken into custody.

"The Marshal Shaposhnikov was ... fired upon by the pirates holding the ship. The Russian warship ... returned fire," the Eureopean Union's naval force reported.

"Eventually, the pirates surrendered and a boarding team from the Marshal Shaposhnikov arrived onboard the tanker, captured all the pirates and freed the crew."

The Russian-operated tanker Moscow University, which sails under the Liberian flag, has a crew of 23. It was on its way to China when pirates hijacked it Wednesday, the naval force said. The ship was carrying an estimated $50 million worth of oil at the time of the attack, according to Russian media.

The ship's owner credited quick action by the crew at the time of the hijacking for the success of the rescue operation.

"Due to wise steps taken by the vessel's captain Yuri Tulchinsky and his crew, all the 23 crew members hid in a special room inaccessible to pirates," said Serafima Shukshina, a spokeswoman for the Novorossiysk Shipping Line. "As a result, the pirates failed to take any crew members hostage, and couldn't take control of the ship despite their siege that lasted more than 20 hours."

Under the Russian law, the captured Somali pirates would face charges of group piracy with the use of violence and weapons, an offense carrying a maximum penalty of up to 15 years in prison, according to Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the Investigation Committee of the Prosecutor General's Office.

Farther south off the coast of Tanzania, pirates failed in their attempt Wednesday to hijack a South Korean-flagged vessel, the naval force said. All those on board are reported to be well, it said.

EU NAVFOR escorts merchant vessels carrying humanitarian aid in the region and protects other vulnerable vessels in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean.

Pirate attacks are frequent in the Gulf of Aden, which lies between Yemen and Somalia at the northwest corner of the Indian Ocean.

Wounded Ronin
8th May 10, 07:44 PM
Put those fuckers in Russian prison, and then make it into a reality TV show.

HappyOldGuy
8th May 10, 08:14 PM
Complexity ensues


Russians release Somali pirates (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/07/russians-release-somali-pirates/)
The Russian Defense Ministry said Friday it had released a group of Somali pirates who hijacked an oil tanker in the Gulf of Aden this week, the Interfax news agency reported.
The pirates were released because of "imperfections" in international law, said Alexei Kusnetsov, defense minister.
Russian marines from the warship Marshal Shaposhnikov stormed the tanker Moscow University on Thursday, freeing its 23 crew members.




http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/07/russians-release-somali-pirates/

jkdbuck76
8th May 10, 08:18 PM
Too bad the Russians only killed one of them. So they get released by the Russians back to Somalia where I'm certain there is a strong justice system that will punish them so as to discourage more pirating [/sarcasm]

WarPhalange
8th May 10, 08:20 PM
Put those fuckers in Russian prison, and then make it into a reality TV show.

You think a Russian prison is worse than a Somali prison?

Harpy
8th May 10, 08:30 PM
What's the worst that could happen if countries plagued by Somali
pirates do not adhere to 'international law'?

Somalia declaring war? Lol. Russians pikes out at the end, what a waste of a job well done by their Marines.

jkdbuck76
8th May 10, 08:36 PM
Ever watch "Black Hawk Down" Lily?

Harpy
8th May 10, 08:53 PM
Yeah...

Ajamil
8th May 10, 08:57 PM
"Due to wise steps taken by the vessel's captain Yuri Tulchinsky and his crew, all the 23 crew members hid in a special room inaccessible to pirates," said Serafima Shukshina, a spokeswoman for the Novorossiysk Shipping Line. "As a result, the pirates failed to take any crew members hostage, and couldn't take control of the ship despite their siege that lasted more than 20 hours."
Panic room meets Under Seige. I smell a blockbuster.

I'd like to think the Russians released them so they could spread their tales of woe about the time they had to go against the Ruskies.

G-Off
8th May 10, 09:00 PM
Ever watch "Black Hawk Down" Lily?

Around 20 US soldiers died, but I think the Somalis took a leeeetle bit more of a beating in that one...

jkdbuck76
8th May 10, 09:20 PM
If I remember correctly, the US had to release the guy they had captured.

Why are we so worried about pissing off the Somalians. What can they do to us? To the Russians? To anybody? The more pirates that get killed, the better.

Harpy
8th May 10, 09:26 PM
When you put it like that, it seems harsh.

I'm having my romantic notions of pirate life torn down. Are the Somali pirates just taking what won't really be missed? Do they feel that the fat cat nations owe them this loot?

Ajamil
8th May 10, 09:31 PM
They're taking lives and multi-million dollar tankers/cargo ships. That's not even getting into what the ships are carrying. I think they were doing it because the risks until recently were worth it, and the payoffs (ransoms or loot) were huge. I'd play the desperate poor card, but somehow I doubt this wealth acquisition ever reaches the general masses.

Doritosaurus Chex
8th May 10, 09:34 PM
The more pirates that get killed, the better.

Careful what you wish for.

http://vis.berkeley.edu/courses/cs294-10-fa08/wiki/images/0/04/FSM_Pirates.png

Keith
8th May 10, 10:10 PM
Somalia declaring war? Lol. Russians pikes out at the end, what a waste of a job well done by their Marines.

I doubt the crew would agree that the work of the marines was "wasted."

Adouglasmhor
9th May 10, 02:17 AM
I am confused, by Russian Marines do they mean Naval Infantry (Morskaya Pekhota)?
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_russiannavallong.html
If so why not call them Naval Infantry, it's their name. Do they think readers are too thick to get it?
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1070113/Morskaja_pehota_Rossii.gif
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/029P4T86629xz/610x.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1070113/2604230686.jpg
Obviously in my last they are Black Sea fleet but you get the idea.

Ajamil
9th May 10, 06:25 AM
How can they be few and proud if they aren't marines?

Kiko
9th May 10, 06:29 AM
Despite the romance of the Spanish Main, Pirates are and always have been terrorists with ships.

danno
9th May 10, 09:20 AM
nobody seems to report it when the french capture/kill pirates. they've been doing it a lot the last few years.


35 Somali pirates captured by French frigate
Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:42:04 GMT

The French Defense Ministry claims one of its frigates has seized 35 pirates, four "mother ships" and six skiffs in various sweeps off the coast of Somalia.

The arrests were made over the past three days in one of the most vital and busiest shipping lanes in the world, the ministry said in a statement issued on Sunday.

France said it was "the biggest seizure" since European Union navies started patrolling the Gulf of Aden and the western Indian Ocean in December 2008 to put an end to the spate of ship hijackings in the region.

The French frigate Nivose, with the help of a Spanish aerial patrol and two helicopters identifying and tracking down the pirates, seized 35 pirates, four "mother ships" and six skiffs in four sweeps on pirates since Friday.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=120318&sectionid=351020501

also:


There have been both positive and negative effects of the pirates' economic success. Local residents have complained that the presence of so many armed men makes them feel insecure, and that their freespending ways cause wild fluctuations in the local exchange rate. Others fault them for excessive consumption of alcoholic beverages and khat.[21]

On the other hand, many other residents appreciate the rejuvenating effect that the pirates' on-shore spending and re-stocking has had on their impoverished towns, a presence which has oftentimes provided jobs and opportunity when there were none. Entire hamlets have in the process been transformed into veritable boomtowns, with local shop owners and other residents using their gains to purchase items such as generators -- "allowing full days of electricity, once an unimaginable luxury."[25]

Local fishermen in the Malindi area of neighbouring Kenya have reported their largest catches in forty years, catching hundreds of kilos of fish and earning fifty times the average daily wage as a result. They attribute the recent abundance of marine stock to the pirates scaring away the large factory trawlers of foreign fishing fleets, which it's claimed have for decades deprived local dhows of a livelihood. Marine biologists agree, saying that the indicators are that the local fishery is recovering because of the lack of commercial scale fishing.[49]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_Somalia#Pirates

Ajamil
9th May 10, 09:27 AM
Pirates are conservationists! LOL!

Doritosaurus Chex
9th May 10, 10:00 AM
Pirates getting owned FPS style.

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OZZ
9th May 10, 03:20 PM
The fishing issue was initially their excuse for doing some of the things they were doing, and there was a time when I actually sided with those Somalis who were taking action to stand up against the bigger nations who were flagrantly violating international fishing boundaries/laws. But now they are just going too far and I have lost any sympathy I had for their plight.
That is one hell of a lawless land over there, and its a sure bet that Al Qaieda is using the country as a training school for their next generation of radicals.

elipson
9th May 10, 03:50 PM
Why woud Russia send them to prison? That's a fucken upgrade for Somali pirates! Sending them back to Somalia, minus thier ship and one comrade, is far worse then taking them to Russia and giving them three meals a day, on the Russian dime.

danno
9th May 10, 06:15 PM
The fishing issue was initially their excuse for doing some of the things they were doing, and there was a time when I actually sided with those Somalis who were taking action to stand up against the bigger nations who were flagrantly violating international fishing boundaries/laws. But now they are just going too far and I have lost any sympathy I had for their plight.
That is one hell of a lawless land over there, and its a sure bet that Al Qaieda is using the country as a training school for their next generation of radicals.

the pirates need to be stopped.

i think it's important to understand them though.

GuiltySpark
9th May 10, 06:18 PM
They need to refit some of these ships as giant gunboats. Put on an armred crew and have them sail around. When pirates try to board them kill them all and carry on sailing.

Like a giant air marshal or something

SoulMechanic
9th May 10, 06:32 PM
The only thing keeping Somalia from becoming the worlds biggest anti west Jihad training camp and port of any/all forms of contraband is the simple fact that they and their lil hommie Eritrea are mortal enemies with Ethiopia and not on the greatest relations with Sudan, who are both as stands is a key if not crowning Jewel in Radical Islam's African expansion.

danno
9th May 10, 06:36 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/CTF-150.jpg

Ships of the multinational fleet Combined Task Force 150


From the left: DM F-213 Augsburg, JMSDF DD-106 Samidare, RNZN F-111 Te Mana, JMSDF DDG-175 Myōkō, MMI F-573 Scirocco, Spanish Navy Victoria (F82), USN USS CG-55 Leyte Gulf, JMSDF AOE-422 Towada, USS DD-985 Cushing

Ajamil
9th May 10, 08:05 PM
What are they all doing in the same place? There's lots of ocean - spread out!

Vieux Normand
9th May 10, 09:43 PM
Nobody seems to report it when the french capture/kill pirates. They've been doing it a lot the last few years.

If there was no cheese eaten and no monkeys surrendered, how can it have anything to do with France?

Adouglasmhor
10th May 10, 01:26 AM
If there was no cheese eaten and no monkeys surrendered, how can it have anything to do with France?

French Surrender Monkey Story here. (http://www.duhaime.org/lawfun/lawarticle-275/the-trial-of-the-hartlepool-monkey-1805.aspx)

bob
10th May 10, 06:45 AM
Under normal circumstances I would not react with joy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis) at the news that the Russians were coming to rescue me.

Vieux Normand
10th May 10, 08:48 AM
Under normal circumstances I would not react with joy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis) at the news that the Russians were coming to rescue me.

Yalta reconsider that.

SoulMechanic
10th May 10, 06:27 PM
Under normal circumstances I would not react with joy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis) at the news that the Russians were coming to rescue me.
Fentanyl intoxication would actually be close to the top of my how I wanna die list.

bob
10th May 10, 06:36 PM
I heard a story - that I haven't been able to confirm - that almost all of those people would have lived, except that they lay them outside in the cold on their backs. If they'd kept them warm and put them in the recovery position their airways would have remained open.

SoulMechanic
10th May 10, 06:44 PM
I highly doubt that man. Opiods slow your respiratory system and all other CNS functions down. So it was not really a matter of positioning them differently as it was getting them on a ventilator, opening the lungs and injecting them with naloxone. The temperature really wouldn't have made much of a difference when their brains are turned to the off position.

bob
10th May 10, 06:46 PM
I conflated the temperature and airway thing. I meant to say that some died of exposure and some died from respiratory failure.

SoulMechanic
10th May 10, 06:54 PM
Ahh, gotcha. I read something very similar about that.

jkdbuck76
11th May 10, 08:56 PM
Has anyone messed with theRussians since?

I mean, if they're willing to kill the hostages themselves, why take hostages?

Doritosaurus Chex
11th May 10, 10:35 PM
It looks like the pirating days of these pirates are over:


Captured Somali pirates 'dead' - Russia


A GROUP of Somali pirates captured by the Russian navy in the Gulf of Aden and then set free in a boat are most probably dead after failing to reach the shore, a Russian defence source said.

The 10 pirates were captured last week after seizing a Russian oil tanker but were then unexpectedly released, with Russian officials saying there was insufficient legal basis to keep them in detention.

"According to the latest information, the pirates who seized the Moscow University oil tanker failed to reach the shore. Evidently, they have all died," the high-ranking source was quoted as saying by all Russia's official news agencies.

The source said that radio signals from the boat stopped just one hour after it had been set free by the Russian navy.

No details were given over the manner in which they could have lost their lives.

Reports have said that after their release the Russian navy put the pirates in a boat 550km offshore, removing all weaponry and navigational equipment from the vessel.

"It would have been more humane to have hung them up from the yardarm," a rights activist, whose name was not given, told the Kommersant daily at the weekend.

Marines from the Russian destroyer Marshal Shaposhnikov freed the tanker from the pirate's grasp in a dawn operation last week hailed as exemplary by Russian defence experts and officials.

President Dmitry Medvedev said the raid was "sharp, professional and quick" and ordered medals for all those involved in the rescue.

The fate of the pirates had been a mystery.

Media had at the weekend published a picture taken by state media showing 10 pirates lying face down, hands tied behind their back on the red deck of the Russian ship.

A top naval official also told Kommersant that the Russian navy had originally planned to accompany the pirates to within 20km of the shore but the offer of escort was turned down.

But Somalia's ambassador to Moscow Mohammed Handule denied that the Russian navy had acted improperly in the affair.

"Not one Somali or the government of our country sees Russia as being guilty in this. The Russian military showed they can act effectively so that not one crew member of the captured tanker was hurt."

"This is the most important thing," he said according to the ITAR-TASS news agency.

Russian shipping expert Mikhail Voitenko said reports about the pirates being set free in a boat could just be covering the possibility they had all been killed in the raid to free the Moscow University.

"I think this is linked to the fact nobody released the pirates and they were killed in the operation," Voitenko, editor of the Maritime Bulletin, told Moscow Echo radio.

"Then someone had the not very intelligent idea 'Let's pretend that they were released in the middle of the ocean hundreds of miles from the shore without any navigational aids'."

After the tanker was recaptured, officials had also sent conflicting signals about the future of the pirates.

Russia's investigative committee of prosecutors had said steps were being taken to bring the pirates to Moscow to face charges but later backtracked, saying that this was not being discussed.

The episode is the latest high-seas intrigue involving Russia, after the disappearance last year of the Maltese-flagged Arctic Sea ship which some reports said was carrying an illicit Russian arms cargo for Iran.

Russia denied the charges and arrested eight "pirates" who it said had hijacked the vessel.

I guess making them walk the plank would have been too clichéd.

bob
12th May 10, 12:20 AM
"Hundred of miles from the shore without any navigational aids". Wtf? That's not exactly a sentence of certain horrible death.



"It would have been more humane to have hung them up from the yardarm," a rights activist, whose name was not given, told the Kommersant daily at the weekend.

No.

And if they'd killed them, why would they hide the fact? "Oh yeah, we killed those guys when rescuing the hostages."
"Yeah? Nice job."

Adouglasmhor
12th May 10, 12:44 AM
http://images.tineye.com/result/4c086a6d71510823b125841315bfd5d961ad53e336e9025860 423960e8ae3492
Oh dear how sad never mind.

Ajamil
12th May 10, 04:44 AM
Part of the "navigational equipment" they confiscated was the boat.

Wounded Ronin
12th May 10, 06:52 PM
It looks like the pirating days of these pirates are over:



I guess making them walk the plank would have been too clichéd.

Ah hah hah, they got what they deserved.

"Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink". -Coleridge