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nihilist
2nd May 10, 03:40 AM
NEW YORK -- Police found an "amateurish" but potentially powerful bomb in a smoking sport utility vehicle in Times Square, then cleared the streets of thousands of tourists milling through the landmark district so they could dismantle it, authorities said Sunday.

"We avoided what we could have been a very deadly event," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "It certainly could have exploded and had a pretty big fire and a decent amount of explosive impact."

New York Gov. David Paterson released a statement calling the failed Times Square bomb scare an "act of terrorism."

Investigators removed three propane tanks, consumer-grade fireworks, two filled 5-gallon gasoline containers, and two clocks with batteries, electrical wire and other components, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said at a news conference early Sunday. A black metal box resembling a gun locker was also recovered.

"I think the intent was to cause a significant ball of fire," Kelly said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/01/new-york-city-police-close-times-square-investigation/


Terrorism just doesn't have the professionalism that it used to.

Fireworks, gas cans and propane tanks? Really?

What kind of self-respecting terrorist uses such weak explosives?

This sounds more like the work of a Teabagger off his meds.

I really don't see Osama saying: "The next plan to punish the infidels is to cause a significant ball of fire..."

Kiko
2nd May 10, 05:24 AM
If they meant it, they'd have done it on a Monday...

nihilist
2nd May 10, 05:34 AM
If they meant it, they would have rigged it to actually explode.

Kiko
2nd May 10, 05:35 AM
That, too.

Shame the car doesn't like... belong to anyone that the police could trace through the plates or something, eh?

Cullion
2nd May 10, 08:17 AM
At what point did the US media start promoting the idea that teabaggers were potential terrorists ?

Ajamil
2nd May 10, 10:13 AM
I actually blame the right-wing talk show hosts. For some reason they've latched onto the idea that the Christian militia in Michigan were innocent joes who just wanted to run through the woods playing soldier and have been linking them with the teabaggers.

MSphinx
2nd May 10, 10:20 AM
What kind of self-respecting terrorist uses such weak explosives?

This sounds more like the work of a Teabagger off his meds.

A few examples:

The Glasgow Airport terrorist attack a few years ago was a second attempt. The first attempt ended when a car bomb they parked outside the airport got towed.

There's Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, followed by the underwear bomber a few years later. That's a serious lack of imagination, switching the bomb location up the length of a man's leg.

There was the attack at the Thomas Jefferson Cultural Center in Manila. A group of terrorists planted a bomb to destroy the building. They had set the timer at 5:00, to give them five minutes to escape, except they didn't. The timer was actually upside down, they actually set it to 00:5, and it blew up right in their faces. The bomb was only strong enough to kill one of them.

There was the attack on the USS The Sullivans. A boat laden with explosives was meant to be sailed straight into the ship, but it sank under the weight of its own TNT.

Terrorists are fucking morons. They just get lucky sometimes.

Also, I don't think it was a Teabagger. While there's been at least one crazy Glenn
Beck fan and Tea Party sympathizer (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-07/what-a-killer-was-watching/full/) gone on a shooting spree, it's not them.


At what point did the US media start promoting the idea that teabaggers were potential terrorists ?

Did Fox News promote that idea? It's nowhere in the article.

mrblackmagic
2nd May 10, 10:55 AM
And why attack New York? It's become a cliche. I've seen so many episodes of CSI, Criminal Intent, NCIS, etc that I can't tell the difference between real attempts and fake attempts that were thwarted by plucky criminal investigators anymore.

SFGOON
2nd May 10, 11:33 AM
Terrorists are fucking morons. They just get lucky sometimes.


This is quite true. Sophisticated terrorists are a rarity.

The bomb, as described, is worse than amateurish. It's childish. Something a seventh-grader would cobble together on July fifth after inhaling a decent amount of glue.

It was a God-damn tea-bagger. I promise.

Ajamil
2nd May 10, 11:39 AM
So were the clocks there as the trigger? And what does it matter what her reasons were?

Keith
2nd May 10, 12:31 PM
Building bombs anywhere but at a legitimate bomb-design-and-build IR&D facility would be a tricky prospect for anyone. One of the big problems is that it's very very difficult to test the device without getting caught.

But the type of explosives in this case indicates this was the work of amateurs.


At what point did the US media start promoting the idea that teabaggers were potential terrorists ?

At what point did environmentalists become eco-terrorists? Any group with passionate beliefs, especially those that are political in nature, has the potential to spawn terrorist actions. Timmy McVeigh an Co. have already shown us what pissed off right-wing nutjobs are capable of.

Adouglasmhor
2nd May 10, 12:34 PM
If they meant it, they would have rigged it to actually explode.

There was one the same in London (outside a Tiger Tiger bar) set by the same arseholes who got the shit kicked out of them at Glasgow Airport. They are too dumb to know what will work and what cant.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6255452.stm


edited to add link.

EuropIan
2nd May 10, 12:39 PM
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HappyOldGuy
2nd May 10, 12:39 PM
At what point did the US media start promoting the idea that teabaggers were potential terrorists ?

It seems like it was some combination of the stories where they were vandalizing peoples houses and offices, plus probably the open carry protests. The dems got a decent amount of traction whining about that.

Adouglasmhor
2nd May 10, 12:41 PM
For IEDs the IRA used ammonium nitrate fertilizer with deadly effect for years. So much so that Ireland made the legal max concentration for sale half that of the rest of the EU.

nihilist
2nd May 10, 12:42 PM
All it takes is one unhinged redneck out of a million who wants to prove that terrorism happened "under Obama's watch".

HappyOldGuy
2nd May 10, 12:44 PM
All it takes is one unhinged redneck out of a million who wants to prove that terrorism happened "under Obama's watch".

That's obviously the smart money, but I'm still hoping for a may day connection.

nihilist
2nd May 10, 12:49 PM
Communist, socialist or anarchist?

EuropIan
2nd May 10, 12:50 PM
"libertarian"

Lebell
2nd May 10, 01:50 PM
fucking homo's.
serious....couple of fuel thingies in a car?
if you have soft targets you ALWAYS use nailbombs.

edit: this is just in at dutch newsite: appearantly it was an attempt by the taliban to avenge the killing of two of their leaders.

nihilist
2nd May 10, 02:08 PM
What do you mean "appearantly"? (sic)

mrblackmagic
2nd May 10, 02:12 PM
"libertarian"

Randroids aren't this proactive.

Keith
2nd May 10, 03:23 PM
Associated Press reports NYPD says no link to the Taliban on this one.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TIMES_SQUARE_CAR_BOMB?SITE=WSAW&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

There was no evidence of a Taliban link to a failed bomb found in a smoking SUV parked in Times Square, and police were on their way to Pennsylvania to talk to a man who said he may have recorded a bombing suspect in a nearby alley, the police commissioner said Sunday.

EuropIan
2nd May 10, 03:24 PM
Randroids aren't this proactive.
Note the quotation marks.

Ajamil
2nd May 10, 03:44 PM
How was the SUV smoking? Like it was set on fire in the cab, and the perps ran?

Ajamil
2nd May 10, 03:47 PM
Kelly said surveillance video shows the vehicle entering the area at 6:28 p.m. Saturday, and a vendor pointed the SUV out to an officer about two minutes later, at the height of dinner hour before theatergoers head to Saturday night shows. He said the license plate on the SUV belongs to a car that is being repaired in Connecticut.
Duane Jackson, a 58-year-old handbag vendor from Buchanan, N.Y., said he noticed the car and wondered who had left it there.
"That was my first thought: Who sat this car here?" Jackson said Sunday.
Jackson said he looked in the car and saw keys in the ignition with 19 or 20 keys on a ring. He said he alerted a passing mounted police officer.
Way to go, citizen Jackson.

Kein Haar
2nd May 10, 03:54 PM
He said he alerted a passing mounted police officer.

What kind of unprofessional shit is that??

Cullion
2nd May 10, 04:05 PM
Keinhaar, why are you anti-cops-on-horses? I doesn't fit with my worldview, and I want you to rectify it. Thanks.

HappyOldGuy
2nd May 10, 04:18 PM
I assumed he was objecting to the cop being mounted.

Not to the cop riding on a horse.

mrblackmagic
2nd May 10, 04:26 PM
Note the quotation marks.

I caught that after I posted. It was just a knee-jerk reaction at the possibility of libertarianism being the next pandemic of fear.

Lebell
3rd May 10, 01:55 AM
What do you mean "appearantly"? (sic)
i mean appearantly because this morning the news confirmed what i already expected: it was unlikely it was taliban, they caught some white dude in his 40ies n security cam who was behaving suspicious.
the taliban would actually been able to make a much more sophisticated bomb.

this smells like wacky homegrown militia tactics to me.
propane, fuel, menure, internet recepies anyone?

nihilist
3rd May 10, 02:04 AM
edit: this is just in at dutch newsite: appearantly it was an attempt by the taliban to avenge the killing of two of their leaders.


i mean appearantly because this morning the news confirmed what i already expected: it was unlikely it was taliban, they caught some white dude in his 40ies n security cam who was behaving suspicious.
the taliban would actually been able to make a much more sophisticated bomb.

this smells like wacky homegrown militia tactics to me.
propane, fuel, menure, internet recepies anyone?

Since you're ESL, I'm going to cut you some slack.
Just do yourself a favor and look up the definition of apparently.

Lebell
3rd May 10, 02:16 AM
ok, and you go look up 'suck my dick'.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 02:39 AM
I did.

It says "bring tweezers and a magnifying glass".

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 05:23 AM
NEW YORK -- Police found an "amateurish" but potentially powerful bomb in a smoking sport utility vehicle in Times Square, then cleared the streets of thousands of tourists milling through the landmark district so they could dismantle it, authorities said Sunday.

"We avoided what we could have been a very deadly event," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "It certainly could have exploded and had a pretty big fire and a decent amount of explosive impact."

New York Gov. David Paterson released a statement calling the failed Times Square bomb scare an "act of terrorism."

Investigators removed three propane tanks, consumer-grade fireworks, two filled 5-gallon gasoline containers, and two clocks with batteries, electrical wire and other components, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said at a news conference early Sunday. A black metal box resembling a gun locker was also recovered.

"I think the intent was to cause a significant ball of fire," Kelly said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/01/new-york-city-police-close-times-square-investigation/


Terrorism just doesn't have the professionalism that it used to.

Fireworks, gas cans and propane tanks? Really?

What kind of self-respecting terrorist uses such weak explosives?

This sounds more like the work of a Teabagger off his meds.

I really don't see Osama saying: "The next plan to punish the infidels is to cause a significant ball of fire..."

You're a fucking idiot.

What do you think the term IED means?

What do you think has been responsible for the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq?

What do you think was responsible for the first World Trade Center attack?

What do you think was responsible for the Oklahoma city bombing?

What do you think the IRA used successfully for decades?

What do you think the residents of Jerusalem have been dealing with for almost ever?

"Dur-hur-hur...the turrorists shure are thtupid!"

You are a massive fucktarded idiot.

Cullion
3rd May 10, 05:26 AM
That's pretty harsh language for an asian yoda-monk.

Lebell
3rd May 10, 06:10 AM
I did.

It says "bring tweezers and a magnifying glass".

about time, appearantly they got my corrections.
and appearantly it only took 15 phonecalls.
is the picture still there?

Lebell
3rd May 10, 06:15 AM
You're a fucking idiot.

hahaha!



What do you think the term IED means? Improvised Explosive Device.
Right?


What do you think has been responsible for the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq?
The USA government.


What do you think was responsible for the first World Trade Center attack?

Usama Bin Laden and his merry bunch.


What do you think was responsible for the Oklahoma city bombing?

US society/culture.


What do you think the IRA used successfully for decades?

NAILBOMBS. srs, their bombs were much better then this one.



What do you think the residents of Jerusalem have been dealing with for almost ever?
For almost ever???
LOL!
Read moar.


"Dur-hur-hur...the turrorists shure are thtupid!"
Now yer talkin sense again!
Glad to have you back!


You are a massive fucktarded idiot.
I agree that appearantly Moleculo seems to be just that.
But let's wait a bit before we draw harsh conclusions.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 07:18 AM
That's pretty harsh language for an asian yoda-monk.

Since when did you decide that Lebell was more intelligent than you?

Kein Haar
3rd May 10, 07:25 AM
Dude, you just got kicked out of your order, didn't you?

No way a zen dude would be harshing our mellows like this.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 07:29 AM
NAILBOMBS. srs, their bombs were much better then this one.

In only one crucial factor. Other than that, you are pretty much full up the dumbass.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 07:30 AM
Dude, you just got kicked out of your order, didn't you?

Nope.


No way a zen dude would be harshing our mellows like this.

I don't even know what that means.

Kein Haar
3rd May 10, 07:53 AM
Jeah right!

HappyOldGuy
3rd May 10, 10:50 AM
I don't even know what that means.
I'm teaching Kein to speak hippy and embrace the love that dare not speak it's name.

It's going quite well actually. He will be applying for the Marin PD next month.

Cullion
3rd May 10, 11:11 AM
Since when did you decide that Lebell was more intelligent than you?

Lebell is fluent in more languages than both of us combined, and he doesn't think he's like a chinese buddha dude. Silly white guy.

Feryk
3rd May 10, 11:44 AM
FWIW, Der's version of Zen isn't some hippy Aikido bullshit. His is about brutal painful learning, but you WILL focus, dammit. One thing I would not say about Der is that he is mellow.

He's marked me for death at least once that I can recall.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 12:02 PM
You're a fucking idiot.

What do you think the term IED means?

What do you think has been responsible for the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq?

What do you think was responsible for the first World Trade Center attack?

What do you think was responsible for the Oklahoma city bombing?

What do you think the IRA used successfully for decades?

What do you think the residents of Jerusalem have been dealing with for almost ever?

"Dur-hur-hur...the turrorists shure are thtupid!"

You are a massive fucktarded idiot.

Poor Der.

Yours is the kind of frustrated passive aggressiveness that can only come from years of wasted training in the next most useless art next to __un.

You either were busy jerking off or are too clueless to read, process and understand the point I was making.
Hopefully, for your sake, I hope it was the latter.

Feryk
3rd May 10, 12:07 PM
Poor Der.

Yours is the kind of frustrated passive aggressiveness that can only come from years of wasted training in the next most useless art next to __un.

You either were busy jerking off or are too clueless to read, process and understand the point I was making.
Hopefully, for your sake, I hope it was the latter.

Poor Greese. You have no idea what passive aggressive means, do you?

Der was full on aggressive. Nothing passive about it.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 12:09 PM
It's called passive aggressive when he doesn't have the balls to either gongsau or make a salient point.

HappyOldGuy
3rd May 10, 12:11 PM
gongsau

*popcorn*

Feryk
3rd May 10, 12:23 PM
It's called passive aggressive when he doesn't have the balls to either gongsau or make a salient point.

The book Living with the Passive-Aggressive Man lists 11 responses that may help identify passive-aggressive behavior:[1]

Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of engendering a feeling of insecurity in others
Chronically being late and forgetting things: another way to exert control or to punish.
Fear of competition
Fear of dependency
Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.
Making chaotic situations
Making excuses for non-performance in work teams
Obstructionism
Procrastination
Sulking
Victimization response: instead of recognizing one's own weaknesses, tendency to blame others for own failures.

From Wiki.

None of those apply here. Der just doesn't like you. I'd suggest you get used to it.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 12:56 PM
Poor Der.

Yours is the kind of frustrated passive aggressiveness that can only come from years of wasted training in the next most useless art next to __un.

I only have a couple months worth in the Bujinkan.


You either were busy jerking off or are too clueless to read, process and understand the point I was making.
Hopefully, for your sake, I hope it was the latter.

Your original post was extremely unpointy. It was just "[email protected]" and you babelling on about shit you really don't understand. I brought up several instances to perhaps expand your weltanschlaung, but you've conveniently ignored the.


It's called passive aggressive when he doesn't have the balls to either gongsau or make a salient point.

My salient point was made. You're just refusing to respond to it.

Is the problem that you just don't like someone pointing out when you're being fucktarded?

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 12:59 PM
FWIW, Der's version of Zen isn't some hippy Aikido bullshit. His is about brutal painful learning, but you WILL focus, dammit. One thing I would not say about Der is that he is mellow.

My teacher just flew back from Korea. I'm looking forward to a week of meditation, koan, boxing, and Kali.

Maverick's actually the mellow one.


He's marked me for death at least once that I can recall.

When was this? Must have slipped my mind.


Der was full on aggressive. Nothing passive about it.

It got me banned from Zen Forum International.

MAP never even banned me.


None of those apply here. Der just doesn't like you. I'd suggest you get used to it.

I actually kinda like Greece. He gave me Rep once. That was nice of him.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 01:02 PM
Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of engendering a feeling of insecurity in others

Yeah, that fits.

It's what koan will do to you.

Chronically being late and forgetting things: another way to exert control or to punish.

The German in me won't let that happen.

Fear of competition

Obviously.

Fear of dependency

Nah, if anything, I can be too dependent.

Just ask my exes.

Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.

Huh?

Making chaotic situations

Does my bedroom count?

Making excuses for non-performance in work teams

I always perform well during group sex.

Obstructionism

I never vote Republican.

Procrastination

Procrasturbation

Sulking

Not usually.

Victimization response: instead of recognizing one's own weaknesses, tendency to blame others for own failures.

Nah, I'm usually pretty hard on myself.

Lebell
3rd May 10, 01:25 PM
This is why i like Der.
Der is bigger then most of our lives.
Not just ' life' perce.
Der is the kinda dude who actually really sincerely cares.
About people, about the world, about the reasons that make us suffer.
He is at the point or getting near it where he realises that understanding the mechanics of dharma-karma doesnt mean you yourself are excluded from it, that's the cruel and also funny aspect of Buddhism.

Now he's on the road to 40, it will only be a matter of time where he turns to drinking, harrasing a korean chick from his religious community, making an ass outta himself, getting excomunicated and eventually homeless.
Then inevitably he will pass by a ' Guns-R-us' and remembers an old samurai story and suddenly understand its meaning.
I'll have my popcorn ready by that time.

Der= Falling Down; he just wants to go home, so don't fuck with him.

DerAuslander108
3rd May 10, 01:29 PM
What is this "turns to drinking" thing of which you speak?

Lebell
3rd May 10, 02:02 PM
wait and see.

Kein Haar
3rd May 10, 02:10 PM
It got me banned from Zen Forum International.

Dude, close enough!

What'd I say?

You hair splitting son of a beehive!

Adouglasmhor
3rd May 10, 04:32 PM
Lebell is fluent in more languages than both of us combined, and he doesn't think he's like a chinese buddha dude. Silly white guy.

But as only English really counts his ability as a cunning linguist is of no import.

Lebell
3rd May 10, 05:07 PM
lol-ma???
hal anta himaar?

anyway the fat scottish dude might have a point.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 10:31 PM
You're a fucking idiot.
[QUOTE]
What do you think the term IED means?
Does it have something to do with the Euterus?


What do you think has been responsible for the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq?
Gonorrhea?


What do you think was responsible for the first World Trade Center attack?

Consumer-grade fireworks?


What do you think was responsible for the Oklahoma city bombing?

A teabagger off his meds?


What do you think the IRA used successfully for decades?

Class envy as a recruitment tool?


What do you think the residents of Jerusalem have been dealing with for almost ever?

That annoyingly endless supply of US weapons?


"Dur-hur-hur...the turrorists shure are thtupid!"

Some are, some aren't.

None are dumb enough to use TKD.


You are a massive fucktarded idiot.

Transcend it, asshopper.

SoulMechanic
3rd May 10, 11:17 PM
This is what I know about Der. He is fat and looks like Frank Black's retarded brother.
Thee end.
By Carlos grade 4.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 11:29 PM
The book Living with the Passive-Aggressive Man lists 11 responses that may help identify passive-aggressive behavior:[1]

Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of engendering a feeling of insecurity in others
Chronically being late and forgetting things: another way to exert control or to punish.
Fear of competition
Fear of dependency
Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.
Making chaotic situations
Making excuses for non-performance in work teams
Obstructionism
Procrastination
Sulking
Victimization response: instead of recognizing one's own weaknesses, tendency to blame others for own failures.

From Wiki.

None of those apply here.


*FEAR OF DEPENDENCY - Unsure of his autonomy & afraid of being alone, he fights his dependency needs - usually by trying to control you.

*FEAR OF INTIMACY - Guarded & often mistrusful, he is reluctant to show his emotional fragility. He's often out of touch with his feelings, reflexively denying feelings he thinks will "trap" or reveal him, like love. He picks fights to create distance.

*FEAR OF COMPETITION - Feeling inadequate, he is unable to compete with other men in work and love. He may operate either as a self-sabotaging wimp with a pattern of failure, or he'll be the tyrant, setting himself up as unassailable and perfect, needing to eliminate any threat to his power.

Der needs our love and understanding.

You are doing a good job riding and keeping his pouch clean and smelling fresh, but sometimes that's just not enough.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 11:33 PM
This is what I know about Der. He is fat and looks like Frank Black's retarded brother.
Thee end.
By Carlos grade 4.

He is also responsible for Dagon's woman leaving.

It was the whole anal-sex sleepover thing that drove her away but shhh, it's a secret.

nihilist
3rd May 10, 11:57 PM
Let's get back to my original point which was that it didn't look like AlQueda's work.

"Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism analyst who has served as a consultant for the U.S. government, said the device — as described by police — is crude and bears little likeness to the work of al-Qaeda.

'Calling this thing a bomb may be giving it too much credit,' he said. "This appears more like a glorified Molotov cocktail."

DerAuslander108
4th May 10, 08:18 AM
Let's get back to my original point which was that it didn't look like AlQueda's work.

Hmmm...


Terrorism just doesn't have the professionalism that it used to.

Fireworks, gas cans and propane tanks? Really?

What kind of self-respecting terrorist uses such weak explosives?

This sounds more like the work of a Teabagger off his meds.

I really don't see Osama saying: "The next plan to punish the infidels is to cause a significant ball of fire..."

No, really don't see any insightful commentary there.

As far as fireworks, gas cans, & propane tanks not being used by "self-respecting terrorists"...guess what?

As pointed out before, they've been used by self-respecting terrorist for decades, worldwide.

So again, in your prepuscent rush for [email protected], you still end up looking like a little self-important twatwad.


"Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism analyst who has served as a consultant for the U.S. government, said the device as described by police is crude and bears little likeness to the work of al-Qaeda.

'Calling this thing a bomb may be giving it too much credit,' he said. "This appears more like a glorified Molotov cocktail."

That's nice. If you really wanna play war of the quotes, I can pull them from any number of sources, including former NYPD Anti-Terrorism Task Force chief Ed Norris, who stated that characterizing any car bomb attempt as "amateurish" is concerning.

Or perhaps you'd like to look at the fatality & damage projections of that real big fireball you mocked might have been...

And oh...look...

Not a Tea Party member... (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126493890&ft=1&f=1001)

So much for your Teabagger off his meds theory...

Lebell
4th May 10, 09:27 AM
whether you assasinate someone with a longdistance ranged scoped rifle or beat someone's head in with as brick, it doesnt matter much, that outcome is pretty much the same.

think about that for a second.

nihilist
4th May 10, 09:53 AM
Hmmm...



No, really don't see any insightful commentary there.
You obviously know jack shit about building bombs.

This makes you the dumbass, my friend. also, as it turns out, the moron used non-explosive fertilizer in his Rube Goldberg contraption. So yeah, this terrorist is about as lame as they come.
How does it feel to be wrong?
Don't worry, Buddhism is about "painful learning" as your nutriding buttpal has pointed out.


As far as fireworks, gas cans, & propane tanks not being used by "self-respecting terrorists"...guess what?

As pointed out before, they've been used by self-respecting terrorist for decades, worldwide.

Look, I'll break it down for you so that you'll understand. The fireworks may perhaps have the heat to ignite the gas but not the propane.
Gas in cans burns slowly. the people would have had time to get away from the car but maybe the "terrorist" wanted to frighten his victims and not really hurt them. Yeah, now your theory makes sense. He was probably a TKD Buddhist.



So again, in your prepuscent rush for [email protected], you still end up looking like a little self-important twatwad.

Turn the irony and hypocrite knobs down off 11 and you'll do better around here.
Better yet, go back to Bullshido and take Lily and Lebell with you.




That's nice. If you really wanna play war of the quotes, I can pull them from any number of sources, including former NYPD Anti-Terrorism Task Force chief Ed Norris, who stated that characterizing any car bomb attempt as "amateurish" is concerning.

Oooh, "concerning" that's an important word.
Fuck off.


Or perhaps you'd like to look at the fatality & damage projections of that real big fireball you mocked might have been...
Like I said, it was a lame, lame attempt that was of low velocity and as designed, was made to warn it's "victims". I'm not mocking terrorists, just this lams ass attempt. But if you had taken time to think before you mouthed off, you'd know that.


And oh...look...

Not a Tea Party member... (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126493890&ft=1&f=1001)

So much for your Teabagger off his meds theory...

Too bad you lack reading comprehension. read up on the difference between theory and COMPARISON.

Now shove off. I'm done with you.

EvilSteve
4th May 10, 11:40 AM
I haven't been able to bring myself to read this shitstorm of a thread closely enough to tell if anyone mentioned this, but the culprit was apparently a U.S. native citizen of Pakistani descent who recently returned from a 5 month trip to Pakistan- where he had a wife. No evident teabagger involvement.

So I just thought you should know you're all racist against whitey.

nihilist
4th May 10, 11:42 AM
Read more, post less.

HappyOldGuy
4th May 10, 11:48 AM
So I just thought you should know you're all racist against whitey.

And why would one assume that a teabagger refers to a white person?

So close. I almost finished typing that without laughing.

EvilSteve
4th May 10, 11:51 AM
And why would one assume that a teabagger refers to a white person?

So close. I almost finished typing that without laughing.

I see what you did there.

DerAuslander108
4th May 10, 11:54 AM
You obviously know jack shit about building bombs.

Am I an EOD specialist or work in demolitions?

Nope.

Do I listen to those who are?

Yup.

From those in the media to a Marine friend who compared it to several of the roadside IEDs he'd seen...

But hey, big balls of fire never killed anyone, right?


This makes you the dumbass, my friend. also, as it turns out, the moron used non-explosive fertilizer in his Rube Goldberg contraption. So yeah, this terrorist is about as lame as they come.
How does it feel to be wrong?
Don't worry, Buddhism is about "painful learning" as your nutriding buttpal has pointed out.

Look, I'll break it down for you so that you'll understand. The fireworks may perhaps have the heat to ignite the gas but not the propane.
Gas in cans burns slowly. the people would have had time to get away from the car but maybe the "terrorist" wanted to frighten his victims and not really hurt them. Yeah, now your theory makes sense. He was probably a TKD Buddhist.

And despite the wrong fertilizer or the propane, authorities still state that had the detonator not malfunctioned, the device would have caused significant casualties.

So yeah...obviously it's just my theory...


The danger was still in the propane tanks, said NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne. "Had these tanks gone off it would have, in all likelihood, resulted in people being killed, windows being shattered, but not resulting in a building collapse," he said.


A police source said the death toll on a warm and crowded Saturday evening "could have been enormous."



Like I said, it was a lame, lame attempt that was of low velocity and as designed, was made to warn it's "victims". I'm not mocking terrorists, just this lams ass attempt. But if you had taken time to think before you mouthed off, you'd know that.


In a news conference, Bloomberg said, "This was an act that was designed to kill innocent civilians...

So yeah..."warn" people....right.

I'm the one with the theory?


Too bad you lack reading comprehension. read up on the difference between theory and COMPARISON.

Read up on making stupid four line posts on a interweb forum and not expecting some people respond mocking you. Seriously, you're butthurt by this? How long have you been posting here?


Now shove off. I'm done with you.

Wait...is this Reece or Greece?

Cuz really, it makes all the difference.

nihilist
4th May 10, 12:04 PM
Reese AKA THX-1138

I'm not sure what you think it takes to detonate a propane tank, but consumer-grade fireworks won't do it.

Just admit that it was on the short-bus end of the IED spectrum and let it go, buddahman.

DerAuslander108
4th May 10, 12:40 PM
Reese AKA THX-1138

I'm not sure what you think it takes to detonate a propane tank, but consumer-grade fireworks won't do it.


The NYPD bomb squad "has seen sophisticated devices before and they described this one as crude," Browne said. "But it was nevertheless lethal."

Yup, definitely nothing worth worrying over.:bssign:


Just admit that it was on the short-bus end of the IED spectrum and let it go, buddahman.

Never said it wasn't;p

Lebell
4th May 10, 01:35 PM
i'm going to start my own terroristcell.
but we'll be sorta different.
instead of bombing politicians houses we just put poo in a bag, light it and ring their doorbells.
and ofcourse prankcalls to the whitehouse.
like Obama is working late on a mondayevening and then his doorbell rings and he's all like:who's there?
and the voice on the other end of the door is like: i got your pizzas here sir!
obama:what? i didnt order any pizzas? go away!
' no i cant do that, i got like 25 pizzas here for this adres and you owe me like 250 dollars!!!'

lolol!

awesome.

Cullion
4th May 10, 01:49 PM
And why would one assume that a teabagger refers to a white person?

So close. I almost finished typing that without laughing.

P1CLPhz0DHM

Sometimes I wonder whether most people get their political opinions from the same 2 or 3 TV news programmes that feed them ready-rolled caricatures of stuff.

Actually, I think that's exactly what happens a lot of the time.

Serious tho HoG, I bet those poor black folks are glad to have a smart white guy protecting them from being tricked by those wascally right-wingers.

I'm expect a comeback from somebody who's never met a member of this movement, attended a single meeting or read any of their literature to make a 'potential terrorist' or 'redneck with a gun' joke soon. We're about due for one.

p.s. Al-Q'aeda, is a nickname that means 'disparate cells of angry muslims'

HappyOldGuy
4th May 10, 02:04 PM
Cullion, you know substantially less about the tea parties than I do about the UKIP. And you'll notice I'm not correcting you about the UKIP in that thread.

Although I am enjoying watching others do it.

Cullion
4th May 10, 02:28 PM
Cullion, you know substantially less about the tea parties than I do about the UKIP.

That's clearly not actually true. Watch the video again.



And you'll notice I'm not correcting you about the UKIP in that thread.

Although I am enjoying watching others do it.

If you care to take a look, a few people are very confused about the difference between 'firing' a lord, and ejecting him from a political party, whilst trying to make enormous capital out of UKIP sitting in a secessionist voting block within the EU parliament with a minor polish catholic socialist party which has connections with a antisemitic party in the 1930s.

I do enjoy our little chats, but I hope my memory and sharpness of mind don't fade quite so fast in my 40s.

Perhaps you should try this again, but with more humility.

HappyOldGuy
4th May 10, 02:41 PM
I can throw paperclips at the office or dinner rolls at the family table any time I want to annoy a tea partier. I'm originally from orange county for fucks sake. The notion that you know more about them than I do doesn't pass any sort of reality check. Of course there are non white tea partiers. There are also jewish and black BNPers. Those groups are not exclusively white. They are however overwhelmingly white, and male.

and no, I am not calling the tea partiers racist. Plenty are but by no means most and racism isn't part of their ideology.

Cullion
4th May 10, 03:10 PM
There aren't black BNP members actually. Just one jew slipped under their radar, and that almost caused a brawl at a BNP executive comittee meeting (lolz!).

The BNP was only recently forced by legal action to accept non-white members because it was part of their party's constitution that non-whites couldn't join, none of have joined yet as far as I know.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23756941-bnp-will-allow-black-members.do

I'm glad that the rest of your family are smarter than you, but you ought to note that your Orange Country brood do not constitute an entire movement.

HappyOldGuy
4th May 10, 03:49 PM
http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/a-black-bnp-reverend-pastor-james-gitau-vs-the-sins-of-homosexuality/

Cullion
4th May 10, 03:53 PM
Well if he hates queers that much he can be an honourary Nazi, I guess.

I suspect he won't make it past his first big social event.

Ajamil
4th May 10, 04:52 PM
Has anyone else been worried about how fast this has all been going? The TV at work spent NINE FUCKING HOURS telling this one news report, and apprently the suspected terrorist is due in court in less than a week. So far there are a number of things linking him, but little real evidence. He had a gun in the car he drove to the airport in, he was on the terror watch list for flying (they spent an hour with "caught at the last second" displayed on the screen), I didn't hear or see anything about him having explosive material at his home (Connecticut). And now I hear he has admitted to "being involved in the plot."

I'm seriously concerned about this going a bit too fast, too easy. It doesn't help that no one at my work could understand my insistence on saying that he's innocent until proven guilty as they demanded his castration, death, and then hanging.

HappyOldGuy
4th May 10, 04:57 PM
AFAIK, he got flagged because he bought the car that was used in the blast, and they found fireworks at his house. I've also heard conflicting reports that he was caught on video.

Ajamil
4th May 10, 05:51 PM
I was rather assured that he is involved when he "confessed," and it would make sense that "involved nit eh plot" could mean buying a car and some of the ingredients for the bomb. If that's the case, then I bet once he heard the thing didn't go off he tried to hightail it out of the country.

And if all of this is true, then hang him - because that means he spent years getting his citizenship only to attack the country he joined. Not only would that be a shit suit sitting in smegma, it would be barfing on all the other honest people who just want to try a life in the US.

Adouglasmhor
4th May 10, 05:59 PM
There aren't black BNP members actually. Just one jew slipped under their radar, and that almost caused a brawl at a BNP executive comittee meeting (lolz!).

The BNP was only recently forced by legal action to accept non-white members because it was part of their party's constitution that non-whites couldn't join, none of have joined yet as far as I know.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23756941-bnp-will-allow-black-members.do

I'm glad that the rest of your family are smarter than you, but you ought to note that your Orange Country brood do not constitute an entire movement.

Even if you join the BNP you do not become a member with voting rights until voted in by a committee. Also in their constitution and harder to challenge than their race bar.

Ajamil
4th May 10, 09:04 PM
He's pretty much guilty (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703866704575223671205160344.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories), unless there's some serious and outright lying by investigators. Let's hope the trial is straightforward.

Lebell
5th May 10, 03:46 AM
There aren't black BNP members actually. Just one jew slipped under their radar, and that almost caused a brawl at a BNP executive comittee meeting (lolz!).

The BNP was only recently forced by legal action to accept non-white members because it was part of their party's constitution that non-whites couldn't join, none of have joined yet as far as I know.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23756941-bnp-will-allow-black-members.do

I'm glad that the rest of your family are smarter than you, but you ought to note that your Orange Country brood do not constitute an entire movement.

The BNP also has members in Holand,at least one i know of for sure.
:-)
Combat18 wouldnt have me, those faggots...

Cullion
5th May 10, 01:11 PM
Combat 18 was always rumoured to have been set up by the British intelligence services as an infiltration thing. You should go it alone.

elipson
6th May 10, 02:01 PM
Has anyone else been worried about how fast this has all been going? The TV at work spent NINE FUCKING HOURS telling this one news report, and apprently the suspected terrorist is due in court in less than a week. So far there are a number of things linking him, but little real evidence. He had a gun in the car he drove to the airport in, he was on the terror watch list for flying (they spent an hour with "caught at the last second" displayed on the screen), I didn't hear or see anything about him having explosive material at his home (Connecticut). And now I hear he has admitted to "being involved in the plot."

I'm seriously concerned about this going a bit too fast, too easy. It doesn't help that no one at my work could understand my insistence on saying that he's innocent until proven guilty as they demanded his castration, death, and then hanging.

I am having the same suspicions. The way he gave up so easy, the fact that he made a trial run the day before (which to me demonstrates a thoroughness that is inconsistant with his lame bomb design), and the utter ineptitude of his bomb design makes me think this all seems way too easy. He tried to ignite the bomb with fire crackers of all things! How long would it take some to find a good pipe bomb design on the internet and use that to detonate everything?


We all should loath the day that terrorists realize that they can go on a shooting rampage and cause more damage and political fallout than these stupid bomb designs ever can. The whole country was on lockdown when two assholes started shooting people at gas stations.

nihilist
6th May 10, 09:23 PM
How long would it take some to find a good pipe bomb design on the internet and use that to detonate everything?



Assuming that you don't want to attract attention by doing all your shopping at one place, I'd say the better part of a day for the whole shebang. That includes library research and assembly time.

This is why officials warn against publicly referring to any device as "amateurish".

It's just too easy to do it right.

AAAhmed46
11th May 10, 12:27 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/05/senagalese-muslim-vendor/

No one talked about the one alerting the authorities was one of those mooslems.

nihilist
11th May 10, 05:19 AM
Would he have alerted authorities if exploding vehicles caused people to buy framed photographs of New York?

Cullion
11th May 10, 06:02 AM
Assuming that you don't want to attract attention by doing all your shopping at one place, I'd say the better part of a day for the whole shebang. That includes library research and assembly time.

This is why officials warn against publicly referring to any device as "amateurish".

It's just too easy to do it right.

You sound kind of.. comfortable with the subject matter.

Feryk
11th May 10, 09:23 AM
Goon should be on this thread.

Lebell
11th May 10, 11:07 AM
Goon should be on this thread.

He is currently detained, something to do with parking in the wrong spot or something.

nihilist
11th May 10, 11:09 AM
You sound kind of.. comfortable with the subject matter.

Don't quote me boy, 'cause I ain't said shit.

Feryk
11th May 10, 03:10 PM
Stop channeling your avatar.

Ajamil
11th May 10, 03:22 PM
Yeah - you have to read him his rights first...

nihilist
11th May 10, 06:11 PM
I was quoting Eazy E you dumbfucks.

Ajamil
11th May 10, 06:30 PM
Did he do a cover of the Dynamite Hack song?

Cullion
11th May 10, 07:16 PM
Don't quote me boy, 'cause I ain't said shit.

Don't call me 'boy' in front of all the doodz, dad.

nihilist
11th May 10, 10:17 PM
Did he do a cover of the Dynamite Hack song?



Yes, thirteen years earlier.

Ain't that sum shit?

SoulMechanic
11th May 10, 11:19 PM
Crackers gotta learn Reese, crackers gotta learn.

nihilist
11th May 10, 11:32 PM
At least do as good a job as The Gourds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-M9gipm9s) did.