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Cullion
3rd April 10, 10:25 AM
By the grace of God, I always knew it:-

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01607/breakfast_1607434c.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7543507/Fried-breakfast-is-healthiest-start-to-day-say-scientists.html

The breakfast of champions. The food of the Gods. Oh fried pork, how I love thee.

partyboy
3rd April 10, 10:35 AM
of course... this is why all brits have STELLAR bodies..

Cullion
3rd April 10, 10:37 AM
But that's the problem, the cooked breakfast is dying out. People rush off to work with toast and cereal and then eat American-style junk or high carb snacks involving bread and/or pasta for lunch and then drink beer in the evening.

Man-boobs are the punishment for disregarding the wise ways of our forefathers. A dude needs bacon and eggs, not fucking muesli. WTF is museli? Looks like some kind of dried animal feed to me. Gay.

nihilist
3rd April 10, 12:32 PM
Looks like some kind of dried animal feed to me. Gay.

I won't argue with your experience in this matter.

Robot Jesus
3rd April 10, 12:41 PM
makes sense. I lost a lot of weight when I made carbs/sugars haram and focused on trying to eat mostly proteins and fiber and just not think about fat.

Adouglasmhor
3rd April 10, 12:47 PM
Did you see Dr Hillary tearing up the telegraph on GMTV and saying it was nonsense?

Can anyone directly link to the study?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 12:58 PM
Look it said they were scientists. And look at that picture. You know in your heart that this is true.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
3rd April 10, 12:59 PM
can i get that with scrambled or fried eggs and no tomatoes

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:00 PM
Eat the tomatoes.

Cullion
3rd April 10, 01:01 PM
can i get that with scrambled or fried eggs and no tomatoes

I always have my eggs scrambled with no dairy and a little Tabasco in. The tomatoes are good for you.

In the week I don't usually get time for more than fruit, nuts and maybe some scrambled eggs. Steak and eggs for breakfast is a good treat when you've got time.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
3rd April 10, 01:03 PM
i don't like tomatoes by themselves, only as part of a sauce or in a sandwich.

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:03 PM
Cullion, have you tried the chipotle Tabasco?

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:04 PM
i don't like tomatoes by themselves, only as part of a sauce or in a sandwich.

Put the tabasco and tomato in your mouth and chew.
It is now sauce.

Cullion
3rd April 10, 01:06 PM
Cullion, have you tried the chipotle Tabasco?

No, I haven't seen it in the stores over here.

HappyOldGuy
3rd April 10, 01:06 PM
Steak and eggs are both excellent side dishes for fried pork products.

Cullion
3rd April 10, 01:09 PM
i don't like tomatoes by themselves, only as part of a sauce or in a sandwich.

You don't have to have tomatoes if you don't like them. The idea here is to have a substantial, hot breakfast with a good serving of protein instead of just bowls of cereal, toast and sugary stuff.

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:15 PM
What is your zip code?

Do they have zip codes in the UK?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 01:19 PM
We call them post codes, I'll PM it to you because they're fine-grained enough to identify which street you live on and this subforum is reachable from google.

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:30 PM
Hmm... looks like you have to order it online.
http://countrystore.tabasco.com/prodinfo.asp?number=09753



WARNING! if you try the Chipotle Tabasco, you will never be able to go back to regular Tabasco again.

Robot Jesus
3rd April 10, 01:42 PM
Hmm... looks like you have to order it online.
http://countrystore.tabasco.com/prodinfo.asp?number=09753



WARNING! if you try the Chipotle Tabasco, you will never be able to go back to regular Tabasco again.

meh


the beans over here are far too sweet, so i guess I'm forced to make them myself if I want a proper breakfast. do you have a recipe?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 01:45 PM
We usually just have Heinz baked beans from a can. Jamie Oliver does have a recipe for home made beans that doesn't have any molasses or sugar in it.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/jamie-oliver/humble-home-cooked-beans-recipe/index.html

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:53 PM
meh


Possible reasons for this stupid comment:

1. You haven't tried it.
2. You don't love roasted peppers.
3. Your wife is non-orgasmic.

nihilist
3rd April 10, 01:53 PM
4. all of the above.

Neildo
3rd April 10, 05:21 PM
oi propa buildas brekkie eh too roight mate

WarPhalange
3rd April 10, 05:24 PM
What the fuck kind of savage eats beans and eggs at the same time?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 05:34 PM
Somebody man enough not to care what you think his farts smell like.

WarPhalange
3rd April 10, 05:43 PM
Farts? You think this has to do with farts? Is that honestly the first thing you Brits think about when food is mentioned, how it's going to come out???

No, beans and eggs (and that disgusting looking raw bacon -- you guys do know how to make fire, right?) are an unholy combination, not unlike ranch dressing and a tape measurer.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
3rd April 10, 05:45 PM
and that disgusting looking raw bacon

you did that on purpose right?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 05:50 PM
Farts? You think this has to do with farts? Is that honestly the first thing you Brits think about when food is mentioned, how it's going to come out???

No, beans and eggs (and that disgusting looking raw bacon -- you guys do know how to make fire, right?) are an unholy combination, not unlike ranch dressing and a tape measurer.

When was the last time you tried a full English breakfast ?

Open your heart.

Kiko
3rd April 10, 05:58 PM
That looks absolutely delicious, Cullion!
Perhaps I'll make that for my family soon, just to hear my husband wail about my cholesterol and my kids scream that they don't want the beans. To hell with 'em!

Silly people... steak and eggs is a true classic!

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WarPhalange
3rd April 10, 06:09 PM
you did that on purpose right?

If that's not bacon, then what the fuck is that shit?

Cullion
3rd April 10, 06:10 PM
It's lean back bacon. What do you think it's supposed to look like ?

Kiko
3rd April 10, 06:12 PM
Are those mushrooms? cool!

WarPhalange
3rd April 10, 06:14 PM
It's lean back bacon. What do you think it's supposed to look like ?

http://baconhaikus.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/bacon-bikini-nsfw.jpg

Cullion
3rd April 10, 06:14 PM
Now that bacon is raw.

WarPhalange
3rd April 10, 06:15 PM
Or at least this:

http://onewholeclove.typepad.com/one_whole_clove/images/bacon

Cullion
3rd April 10, 06:15 PM
Are those mushrooms? cool!

Yes, fried mushrooms are a common part of a cooked English breakfast. Fried potatoes aren't as common though, and you'd probably want to avoid them if you were trying to test the health benefits the researchers were talking about.

Kiko
3rd April 10, 06:18 PM
Your chips can't be any worse than what folks here call hash browns/home fries. Depending on what they get fried in, of course..

Now corned beef hash ... that's a whole other story!

Cullion
3rd April 10, 06:21 PM
Your chips can't be any worse than what folks here call hash browns/home fries. Depending on what they get fried in, of course..

Chips or other fried potatoes aren't as much of a standard part of a full English breakfast. Normally the carbs (if present at all) would just be provided by some toast or maybe fried bread.

The basic version has to involve sausage, bacon and eggs. Tomatoes, mushrooms, toast, baked beans, fried bread, black pudding are all optional extras. The Irish customise it with white pudding, soda bread and sometimes duck instead of chicken eggs.

Chips or fried potatoes are a less common optional extra and I really suggest you avoid them if you're going to eat this more than about once a month. Fried carbs are pretty much the anti-'getting in shape' food of all foods. It's also perfectly acceptable to grill instead of fry everything except the mushrooms.

More breakfast porn:-

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/5820/images/5820_MEDIUM.jpg

Kiko
3rd April 10, 06:23 PM
Stop! My husband is just across the room!

DAYoung
3rd April 10, 08:43 PM
Cullion, would you eat this daily?

DAYoung
3rd April 10, 09:07 PM
Also, I just ate this for lunch:

5 x seaweed rice crackers topped with lemon pepper tuna

5 x seaweed rice crackers topped with sardines in hot sauce

2 x gala apples

2 x rooibos tea

DISCUSS

Kein Haar
3rd April 10, 09:13 PM
I really don't want to discuss that.

Cullion,

I believe every word of this creed.

Moar British breakfast porn plx.

Kein Haar
3rd April 10, 09:14 PM
Poops,

That would appear to be something we'd call Canadian bacon. Fried. It's not just a mass of bacon fat as we know it.

HappyOldGuy
3rd April 10, 09:28 PM
It's not just a mass of bacon fat as we know and love it.

Needed fixing.

Robot Jesus
3rd April 10, 11:18 PM
Possible reasons for this stupid comment:

1. You haven't tried it.
2. You don't love roasted peppers.
3. Your wife is non-orgasmic.


it's too thick and not vinegary enough, also isn't hot enough.


We usually just have Heinz baked beans from a can. Jamie Oliver does have a recipe for home made beans that doesn't have any molasses or sugar in it.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/jamie-oliver/humble-home-cooked-beans-recipe/index.html


thanks, the Heinz beans over here are sweeter then yours, I've had both


also that egg would probably be illegal to serve publicly.

danno
4th April 10, 12:43 AM
yeah, i eat this kind of thing a lot. had it this morning. ate it a lot growing up too.

Ajamil
4th April 10, 12:54 AM
Busch's Baked Vegetarian beans. I love 'em. I should write the company - you know how hard it is to find beans without lard in them?

nihilist
4th April 10, 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Moleculo
Possible reasons for this stupid comment:


Your wife is non-orgasmic.


it's too thick and not vinegary enough, also isn't hot enough.


Have you tried douches and foreplay?

Steve
4th April 10, 01:54 AM
Even though the article was published on April 1st, it's still making me hungry.

DAYoung
4th April 10, 02:01 AM
It wouldn't matter if Beelzebub himself posted it on Romanian Hell Day. It's an awesome hypothesis, which merits careful empirical research.

nihilist
4th April 10, 02:13 AM
You mean like eating?

DAYoung
4th April 10, 02:53 AM
You mean like eating?

That, my good man, is exactly what I mean.

nihilist
4th April 10, 03:01 AM
Researching as we speak...

DAYoung
4th April 10, 03:03 AM
Researching as we speak...

Don't speak with your mouth full, you barbarian.

bob
4th April 10, 03:03 AM
I'd be willing to bet that eating just after you exercise has a much greater influence than the time of day.

nihilist
4th April 10, 03:09 AM
Influence on..indigestion?

Robot Jesus
4th April 10, 03:45 AM
Don't speak with your mouth full, you barbarian.


barb ba rab ba bababa ba ba

bob
4th April 10, 03:51 AM
Influence on..indigestion?

You do make sure you switch to your eating teeth before you chow down don't you old man?

nihilist
4th April 10, 03:52 AM
Barbarian?

Nay, libertine.

nihilist
4th April 10, 03:56 AM
You do make sure you switch to your eating teeth before you chow down don't you old man?

Eating teeth?
Huh.
in America we use the same teeth for eating and drinking.

Ajamil
4th April 10, 04:30 AM
barb ba rab ba bababa ba ba
4:32 on the second one, but I couldn't resist. I love 30s Popeye!
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Cullion
4th April 10, 06:28 AM
Cullion, would you eat this daily?

I wouldn't have time to prepare it daily. I would eat lean, grilled unsmoked bacon, or a small piece of steak, and a scrambled egg (with no added fat) daily for breakfast, without any paranoia about heart disease, if I had time to make it. My other meals would be smaller.

Tomatoes and mushrooms? No problem at all. I'd fry the mushrooms in a really small amount of olive oil.

Sausage, fried bread or potatoes, very rarely. I don't think they'd be healthy to eat every day. Maybe once every week or two.

This is Arthur De Vany. He's an economics professor and paleo-diet/fitness nut. He doesn't believe in pasta, yoghurt, rice cakes, granola, or skipping on your animal fats. He thinks long distance jogging is for fags. He likes a steak or a pork chop for breakfast. He was in his 70s when this was taken. He does not use steroids or take synthetic HGH.

http://www.bryanappleyard.com/blog/uploaded_images/artRun-785346.jpg

Cullion
4th April 10, 06:30 AM
Also, I just ate this for lunch:

5 x seaweed rice crackers topped with lemon pepper tuna

5 x seaweed rice crackers topped with sardines in hot sauce

2 x gala apples

2 x rooibos tea

DISCUSS

It's good lean protein and fresh fruit. You don't really need the rice crackers though. There's not much real nutrition there. Have extra fish instead.

Cullion
4th April 10, 06:36 AM
I really don't want to discuss that.

Cullion,

I believe every word of this creed.

Moar British breakfast porn plx.

I think we'll take this leftfield. This is an Irish variant. Note the soda bread.

http://irishbutcher.com/images/full-Irish-breakfast.jpg

Cullion
4th April 10, 06:39 AM
yeah, i eat this kind of thing a lot. had it this morning. ate it a lot growing up too.

And Danno, let's not forget, is a BJJ purple belt with the body of a battle-hardened spartan. If you're not convinced now, then there's no hope for you.

Cullion
4th April 10, 06:53 AM
Even though the article was published on April 1st, it's still making me hungry.

It's not an April Fool's joke, it's a movement. Science is leading us from ignorance and darkness, into the light. The truth that is meat and eggs for breakfast.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7540732/A-high-fat-breakfast-of-bacon-and-eggs-may-be-the-healthiest-start-to-the-day-report-shows.html

danno
4th April 10, 08:16 AM
And Danno, let's not forget, is a BJJ purple belt with the body of a battle-hardened spartan. If you're not convinced now, then there's no hope for you.

maybe some kind of lanky, hairy spartan with an irish complexion...

i really think meat is great for breakfast if you're active.

is that black pudding with the irish one? i had dinner not long ago and this thread is making me hungry again.

Cullion
4th April 10, 08:20 AM
Yes, it's black pudding. Probably Clonakilty.

danno
4th April 10, 08:36 AM
you might find this interesting.

this photo was not composed to look delicious, it was a snap i took while visiting home for a birthday.

we usually cook up this kind of thing the morning after a long night of drinking. mostly meat. the pieces of bread in the photo have holes cut out with eggs dropped in.

the ingredients are often pretty similar to the english breakfast. bacon, eggs, toast, thick slices of tomato, etc.

it's being cooked on a giant gas BBQ wok thing. never seen one before, perhaps one of the relatives made it.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/426/img0184m.jpg

might not look so good in this photo, but i have to say, i love it.

Cullion
4th April 10, 08:40 AM
We don't cook outdoors as often in the UK, but I fully approve of the principle.

Adouglasmhor
4th April 10, 10:25 AM
Look it said they were scientists. And look at that picture. You know in your heart that this is true.
No potato scone, no black pudding, it said they were Canadian Scientists, is that not like Afghani beer critics?

Also the scientists never mentioned a full english, Croisants and Cafe au lait, Churros and hot chocolate, Brotchen mit kase oder bratkartofflen* mit spiegelei, kedgeree, kippers, soused herring all fit the bill for a breakfast with fat.

* The full Enlish in the picture featured bratkartoflen so failed at Englishness.

Adouglasmhor
4th April 10, 10:26 AM
I think we'll take this leftfield. This is an Irish variant. Note the soda bread.

http://irishbutcher.com/images/full-Irish-breakfast.jpg
Better note tattie scone and black pudding.

Cullion
4th April 10, 12:18 PM
Also the scientists never mentioned a full english, Croisants and Cafe au lait, Churros and hot chocolate, Brotchen mit kase oder bratkartofflen* mit spiegelei, kedgeree, kippers, soused herring all fit the bill for a breakfast with fat.

* The full Enlish in the picture featured bratkartoflen so failed at Englishness.

Those were just fried potatoes in an English breakfast. Black pudding is English too, they just didn't have any on that plate. I think it's delightful that North Americans are beginning to understand the fullness of our culture, so it's unfair to make fun of those Canadians for trying.

The Irish breakfast above looks like an Ulster fry, on account of potato bread.

HappyOldGuy
4th April 10, 12:41 PM
This is how I eat most sundays. In fact I'm heading out in a couple of minutes to pick up the fixins for this weeks sunday brunch; potato pancakes, bacon, fried apples, and fried eggs.

But honestly, it's a way I can only eat on sundays. It's just too much effort and too much food. Never mind the various macro nucrient cults, there are 1500+ calories on those plates. It's just too much food. That made sense when we were going to head out and work in the fields, but not when we are going to go sit in front of a CRT all day.

In it's defense, it also looks like too much food. I think most of what ails us in terms of our nutrition is calorie loaded stuff that won't make us feel like a stuffed turkey after we eat it.

To me, most of the various approaches to macro nutrients are magical thinking. They are looking for fat go away pixie dust. And they are scientifically indefensible if only because we know that there are massive differences in the way different people respond metabolically to different diets. That's why you should keep it simple. Eat the right number of calories and make sure you are taking in all the things your body needs.

Cullion
4th April 10, 12:44 PM
This is the funnest way to do that.

partyboy
4th April 10, 01:36 PM
I just had:

eggs
cheese
turkey bacon
& baby spinach

all on multi-grain buns.


but I'm sure I'm like others who only have this sort of thing once a week. if that

Adouglasmhor
4th April 10, 02:23 PM
Those were just fried potatoes in an English breakfast. Black pudding is English too, they just didn't have any on that plate. I think it's delightful that North Americans are beginning to understand the fullness of our culture, so it's unfair to make fun of those Canadians for trying.

The Irish breakfast above looks like an Ulster fry, on account of potato bread.
Potato bread is a tattie scone, probably brought to Ulster by Scots plantationers, Scots is still a recognised language in the north but you only get a chance t use it on the Antrim coast really - English black pudding has white lumps of unblended suet in it comes from Yorks and Lancs and sucks. Blutwurst and boisin de bloot both beat English black pudding.

Cullion
4th April 10, 03:49 PM
Potato bread is a tattie scone, probably brought to Ulster by Scots plantationers

Yeah, I can believe that, but it was hundreds of years ago, and I still count Ulster as Irish.



Scots is still a recognised language in the north but you only get a chance t use it on the Antrim coast really

You're talking about Scots Gaelic? Them's Irish settlers from 1500 years ago just going back and forth across a short stretch of cold grey sea. Some of them turned Protestant and decided to be loyal to our monarch instead of the pope, but they're still Irish on a certain level, and they certainly have lived in Ireland for a long time after an interlude as Irish settlers in Scotland. I'd class them all as 'people of the Irish sea' with a division based on which robe-wearing authority figure they based their most recent identity myth around.



English black pudding has white lumps of unblended suet in it comes from Yorks and Lancs and sucks. Blutwurst and boisin de bloot both beat English black pudding.

We're going to have a blood sausage NOM NOM NOM thread. That's how we're going to settle this.

Cullion
4th April 10, 06:29 PM
This is how I eat most sundays. In fact I'm heading out in a couple of minutes to pick up the fixins for this weeks sunday brunch; potato pancakes, bacon, fried apples, and fried eggs.

But honestly, it's a way I can only eat on sundays. It's just too much effort and too much food. Never mind the various macro nucrient cults, there are 1500+ calories on those plates. It's just too much food. That made sense when we were going to head out and work in the fields, but not when we are going to go sit in front of a CRT all day.

In it's defense, it also looks like too much food. I think most of what ails us in terms of our nutrition is calorie loaded stuff that won't make us feel like a stuffed turkey after we eat it.

To me, most of the various approaches to macro nutrients are magical thinking. They are looking for fat go away pixie dust. And they are scientifically indefensible if only because we know that there are massive differences in the way different people respond metabolically to different diets. That's why you should keep it simple. Eat the right number of calories and make sure you are taking in all the things your body needs.

Mathematically, I think there's no doubt that you're right. However, a couple of things to note:-

i) When I'm googling for pics to illustrate this point, I'm mostly coming up with large portions intended to look appealing from somebody's hotel or Bed and Breakfast place. They're adverts. In reality, only very fat people would eat a meal that size for breakfast every day unless they're scrupulous about treating it as their main meal and then doing loads of exercise. Eat something as shown in the pics so far, and then go on to snack in the office, and then eat big sammiches and crisps for lunch, and then have lasagne and red wine for dinner, you're going to be a fat fuck. No question.

My parents eat a cooked breakfast more than 3 times a week, and are still lean without heart trouble (touch wood) in their 70s. However, in their case we're talking about one egg, one or two pieces of lean back bacon ('Canadian' as Keinhaar calls it) and one piece of wholemeal toast accompanied by mushrooms, tomatoes and beans that have been cooked with little or no extra fat, with no snacking between meals and very light and lean lunches and dinners.

The Prof. De Vany example I gave eats far more, but also exercises much more, at the same age, though. If you examine that guy's diet and exercise routine in detail, it's clear that he keeps his bloodstream swimming with healthy types of fat, vitamins from fresh fruit and veg, and natural human growth hormone from intense bursts of anaerobic exercise whilst running on lean meats and raw fruit and veg.

We're also talking about people who don't smoke at all, never take other recreational drugs, and drink alcohol very moderately and infrequently. It's important to have a complete health picture.

ii) It varies from person to person, but a hearty breakfast does generally help you keep your appetite under control the rest of the day.

iii) From most nutritional perspectives, I think we can all agree that the fried carbs some of these pics show are the most important to exclude (except as a rare treat) if you want to get lean and have healthy circulation, and I did make that point very early in the thread.

DAYoung
4th April 10, 08:08 PM
Cullion, did you see the Dr Who episode 'End of Time'? If not, the Master is absolutely famished, and has this craving for meat. He has the most perfect monologues, quick-cut style, on fat, grease, turkey, bacon, beef, all in this obsessive, breathless voice.

I feel like this some days.

DAYoung
4th April 10, 08:11 PM
But back to the menu. I usually eat carbs for breakfast (cereal in summer, toast in winter), but I could easily and happily swap this for kippers, a little (gluten free) bread and fresh fruit.

I'm worried about cheese, though. I've never been a big cheese eater. Dairy as a whole doesn't appeal. But every now and then, at about 3pm, I get a ridiculous craving for cheese, alongside sugar. I might have two or three thick slices. I don't think this is healthy.

DISCUSS.

HappyOldGuy
4th April 10, 08:28 PM
What do you think is unhealthy about cheese?

Good protein, some cheese is fatty, but alot isn't if you think it matters, and even people who are lactose intolerant usually aren't bothered by it.

I'm eating some gruyere left over from topping the gratin right now.

Ajamil
4th April 10, 08:47 PM
I love cheese, and any and all dairy. I think it's turning me lactose intolerant.

bob
4th April 10, 10:01 PM
today-
home made beans
poached egg
sourdough toast
chorizo
rocket and feta salad

Kein Haar
4th April 10, 10:12 PM
I think we'll take this leftfield. This is an Irish variant. Note the soda bread.

http://irishbutcher.com/images/full-Irish-breakfast.jpg

Both bacon and two types of sausage. Awesome.

Remember this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4RNb3tt0LM

Cullion
5th April 10, 05:30 AM
But back to the menu. I usually eat carbs for breakfast (cereal in summer, toast in winter), but I could easily and happily swap this for kippers, a little (gluten free) bread and fresh fruit.

I'm worried about cheese, though. I've never been a big cheese eater. Dairy as a whole doesn't appeal. But every now and then, at about 3pm, I get a ridiculous craving for cheese, alongside sugar. I might have two or three thick slices. I don't think this is healthy.

DISCUSS.

Jack Lalane, Arthur De Vany and some other paleo-diet enthusiasts think it's unhealthy and have some studies to quote. My personal view is that some populations are better adapted to dairy than others, and whilst the low-starch, low-gylcemic index, low/no synthetic additive principles they espouse are sound, some people are fine with a bit of cheese. Their bodies seem to handle the lactose and types of fat just fine. The French eat plenty of cheese and they're not fat or short-lived. It perhaps wouldn't work so well if you were part chinese.

I treat it as a 'cheat' at weekends when I'm doing a paleo diet, but I've got flab to shed.

Be careful eating too much smoked food though.

Adouglasmhor
5th April 10, 06:14 AM
Yeah, I can believe that, but it was hundreds of years ago, and I still count Ulster as Irish.



You're talking about Scots Gaelic? Them's Irish settlers from 1500 years ago just going back and forth across a short stretch of cold grey sea. Some of them turned Protestant and decided to be loyal to our monarch instead of the pope, but they're still Irish on a certain level, and they certainly have lived in Ireland for a long time after an interlude as Irish settlers in Scotland. I'd class them all as 'people of the Irish sea' with a division based on which robe-wearing authority figure they based their most recent identity myth around.



We're going to have a blood sausage NOM NOM NOM thread. That's how we're going to settle this.


Not Scots Gaelic! The language Scots which is part of the same low German group as English.
Most of the plantationers were lowland or borderers though not highlanders. brython and saxon by decent not Gaelic. (they were trying to Anglicise Ireland not make it more Celtic).
I am mostly of highland and thence Irish decent, I am cetainly not a proddy loyalist.

It's just abut 10 miles from Scotland to Ireland by sea. Dallriatta and all that.
SPuds came to about 400 years ago so those settler going back and forth were not dealing in spuds.

Cullion
5th April 10, 06:19 AM
Oh, sorry, you're talking about lowland scots, that Robbie Burns wrote in?

Yeah that's a saxon offshoot. I didn't realise that the settlers in Northern Ireland were almost all lowlanders.

EvilSteve
5th April 10, 08:57 AM
Hmm... looks like you have to order it online.
http://countrystore.tabasco.com/prodinfo.asp?number=09753



WARNING! if you try the Chipotle Tabasco, you will never be able to go back to regular Tabasco again.

I did. Woudln't touch anything else for a while, but eventually got sick of it. It's good and all, but I think the standard is the best. Still, doesn't hold a candle to either Yucatan Sunshine or Purple Haze. If anyone gets the opportunity to try these, I highly reccommend it. The first is a pretty standard habanero sauce, the second is a habanero sauce made with pineapple and a bunch of other shit which is weird, but seriously good.

Cullion
5th April 10, 08:59 AM
Do people use brown sauces made with stuff like tamarind, anchovy or fruit and spices in the US? I know you use our Worcester sauce sometimes, but do you use stuff like this ?

http://www.asaltandbattery.com/assets/images/products/copies/lg_hp-sauce-big.jpg

EvilSteve
5th April 10, 09:05 AM
Do people use brown sauces made with stuff like tamarind, anchovy or fruit and spices in the US? I know you use our Worcester sauce sometimes, but do you use stuff like this ?

http://www.asaltandbattery.com/assets/images/products/copies/lg_hp-sauce-big.jpg

HP Curry is one of my favorites, followed closely by HP Fruity.

The original isn't bad either- it's usually readily available at the supermarket. The other two, less so.

EuropIan
5th April 10, 10:39 AM
HP sauce is so powerful.

It's flavor dominates almost anything.

EvilSteve
5th April 10, 10:57 AM
Maybe we should rename it Murdersauce then?

EuropIan
5th April 10, 11:17 AM
Moar liek rapesauce amirite?

Phrost
5th April 10, 11:22 AM
Reminds me of traditional breakfast in Central America:

http://foodists.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/bandeja-paisa-in-colombia.jpg

Cullion
5th April 10, 11:42 AM
I see an egg, rice, beans and what looks like a sausage. What's the other stuff on the plate?

EuropIan
5th April 10, 12:04 PM
I think the yellow thing is a fried plantain but i can't be sure

SoulMechanic
5th April 10, 12:15 PM
Cheers Cullion!! I have been eating a traditional English breakfast on Sunday mornings since childhood. Only difference is my family generally fries green tomatoes instead of the red ones and often with some red bell pepper. I also get the UK Heinz beans. They go very well with thick cut apple wood bacon and sausage. I firmly believe this breakfast is a good part of why I am a lean mean killing machine.
These are so so money.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r300/donnadodds/beans.jpg

Reese. Chipotle tabasco is shit man. This is the bees knees.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv216/CAMPLIFESOULJA/tabasco-habanero-sauce-300x300.jpg

This is a close second. But note that I do not endorse this bullshit "milder than original" nonsense.
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/sauceshoppe/IMGP0683.jpg

^^^ Great with fried spam or in a chorizo and egg scramble.



In the end though the English breakfasts American cousin Corned Beef Hash blows all others out the water.
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu107/tidycat_photos/Hash_Corned.jpg

HappyOldGuy
5th April 10, 12:21 PM
In the end though the English breakfasts American cousin Corned Beef Hash blows all others out the water.
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu107/tidycat_photos/Hash_Corned.jpg

My brother from another mother. Best thing about St Patricks day is breakfast the day after.

nihilist
5th April 10, 12:27 PM
Tabasco has always been my least favorite hot sauce. The only thing that makes the chipotle sauce palatable IMO is the fact that it has smoked peppers.

nihilist
5th April 10, 12:29 PM
BTW, I buy my hot sauce by the quart or gallon. That's how much I love pepper sauce.

EuropIan
5th April 10, 12:32 PM
I like the higher vinegar content of Louisiana style hot sauce.

SoulMechanic
5th April 10, 12:36 PM
This one is good on everything.
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/sauceshoppe/saucephoto2004.jpg

nihilist
5th April 10, 12:46 PM
One of my top three. I wish they made it in gallon size.

Zendetta
5th April 10, 03:41 PM
You don't have to have tomatoes if you don't like them. The idea here is to have a substantial, hot breakfast with a good serving of protein

I don't think you need to worry about MJS. He is certainly consuming substantial ammounts of hot protein already.

Harpy
5th April 10, 05:08 PM
BTW, I buy my hot sauce by the quart or gallon. That's how much I love pepper sauce.

Just like back in Hell huh?

I like the tomatoes and mushrooms by the way Cullion, serve it up.

Robot Jesus
5th April 10, 05:45 PM
when i was in Ireland I had the Irish breakfast; how normal is beer with breakfast? Is it a Saturday thing or tradition from times gone by, or is it a normal part of breakfast.

Cullion
5th April 10, 06:13 PM
when i was in Ireland I had the Irish breakfast; how normal is beer with breakfast? Is it a Saturday thing or tradition from times gone by, or is it a normal part of breakfast.

In England having alcohol with breakfast is very, very rare. I serve champagne and orange juice (we call it a Buck's Fizz, I think you call it a Mimosa?) with Christmas breakfast, and you might see something similar if you'd been to an all-night formal ball. Otherwise it's pretty much the province of hardened alcoholics and fratboys. Going to the pub and having one or two beers with lunch is fairly common though, especially on Fridays.

AIUI The average brit drinks more than the average North American. The Irish and Scottish still have a strong stereotype about even heavier alcohol consumption, but I've never known any of my Irish relatives drink with breakfast.

It might be more common in Germany. I remember seeing a documentary about the big BMW plant in Bavaria back in the 90s. The union had negotiated the right to drink a beer whilst working, before lunch.

Robot Jesus
5th April 10, 06:33 PM
Otherwise it's pretty much the province of hardened alcoholics and fratboys. .


or in my case, tourist.

EuropIan
6th April 10, 06:56 AM
when i was in Ireland I had the Irish breakfast; how normal is beer with breakfast? Is it a Saturday thing or tradition from times gone by, or is it a normal part of breakfast.
A shot of akvavit used to be fairly common companion to breakfast in Scandinavia

Zendetta
6th April 10, 11:51 AM
Bacon, Eggs, Sourdough Bread, and Cold Beer is my standard breakfast while camping.

Its good for the soul, I tell ya.

jkdbuck76
6th April 10, 12:24 PM
In the week I don't usually get time for more than fruit, nuts and maybe some scrambled eggs. Steak and eggs for breakfast is a good treat when you've got time.

"when you've got time"????

It should only take 3 minutes to cook a steak.

Cullion
6th April 10, 12:33 PM
Plus the time to clean up pan or grill afterwards. I'm always in a rush in the morning, it's bad discipline on my part.

nihilist
6th April 10, 12:41 PM
Use cast iron.

You just wipe it with a paper towel while the griddle is still hot.

Plus, cooking with cast iron provides iron in your diet.

SoulMechanic
6th April 10, 01:31 PM
Bacon, Eggs, Sourdough Bread, and Cold Beer is my standard breakfast while camping.

Its good for the soul, I tell ya.
I had this for breakfast all Easter weekend while camping. I also boned down with a Dutch girl who was camping in the spot next to ours. I wonder if she was related to Lebell? It would be badass if she was smuggling my little patriots back to her shit country. This is probably the exact same was Bas Rutten was concieved.

Zendetta
6th April 10, 04:18 PM
I had this for breakfast all Easter weekend while camping.

Awesome, isn't it?


I also boned down with a Dutch girl who was camping in the spot next to ours. I wonder if she was related to Lebell? It would be badass if she was smuggling my little patriots back to her shit country. This is probably the exact same was Bas Rutten was concieved.


Oh, great. She probably went back home and stuck her finger in a dyke.

SoulMechanic
6th April 10, 04:23 PM
Says the man with the hepatitis touch.



But seriously, that wouldn't be the first time my penis has had that effect on a woman.

Ajamil
6th April 10, 09:28 PM
You're the ultimate male, Techno.
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