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Hedley LaMarr
22nd March 10, 02:17 PM
This might be a bit early for a thread like this, but with the health care bill passed we are going to start to see how this will affect the elections in November. This being a midterm election, the Democrats are most likely going to lose seats in the House and Senate. It's really a question of how many and who they are.


Here's a list of Senators up for reelection from this link (http://www.zimbio.com/Who's+Up+for+Reelection+in+2010/notes/1/Up+Reelection+2010+Full+List):


Who's Up for Reelection in 2010? Full List
Retiring Senators
Ted Kaufman (D) of Delaware
Kit Bond (R) of Missouri
Sam Brownback (R) of Kansas
Mel Martinez (R) of Florida
George Voinovich (R) of Ohio

Democratic incumbents
Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas
Barbara Boxer of California
Michael Bennet of Colorado
Christopher Dodd of Connecticut
Daniel Inouye of Hawaii
Roland Burris of Illinois
Evan Bayh of Indiana
Barbara Mikulski of Maryland
Harry Reid of Nevada
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
Chuck Schumer of New York
Byron Dorgan of North Dakota
Ron Wyden of Oregon
Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania
Patrick Leahy of Vermont
Patty Murray of Washington
Russ Feingold of Wisconsin

Republican incumbents
Richard Shelby of Alabama
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
John McCain of Arizona
Johnny Isakson of Georgia
Mike Crapo of Idaho
Chuck Grassley of Iowa
Jim Bunning of Kentucky
David Vitter of Louisiana
Judd Gregg of New Hampshire
Richard Burr of North Carolina
Tom Coburn of Oklahoma
Jim DeMint of South Carolina
John Thune of South Dakota
Bob Bennett of Utah

Here's a list of House Representatives up for reelection:
Just kidding. If you don't know how many House of Representative members are up for reelection this year, you shouldn't be discussing American politics.


It's going to be an interesting year for both Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats are dealing with a health care bill that is not popular with the American people for being too socialist and not popular with a section of their base for not being socialist enough. The Republicans are currently dealing with a large fragmentation in their base, with many going off into the Tea Party movement, which, while very enthusiastic, does not seem to have good organization at any level and lacks a real solid common issue that ties them all together. This might be a good year for third party candidates and Independents.

So what do you think will happen this year in November?

Ajamil
22nd March 10, 02:33 PM
I don't see Spector surviving. He might pull something out in time for elections, but I don't feel a lot of approval for him in PA.

Spade: The Real Snake
22nd March 10, 02:35 PM
If McCain *does* lose his seat, it will be to and because of JD Hayworth.

if the Republicans were smart, they would find a way to sweeten a deal and convince those 4 retiring Senators to hang on for one more term.

From all I have seen and read in the LV papers, Reid is in trouble.

HappyOldGuy
22nd March 10, 02:41 PM
They have swallowed the worst of the pill. The trick for them now is going to be to get people to listen to what the bill they just passed actually is (which is wildly popular) versus what it is portrayed as (which is wildly unpopular).

I expect them to hold onto a narrow (one or two vote) majority in the senate, and a 10-15 vote lead in the house. Because at the end of the day, the pubs have successfully tarnished the dems pretty badly, but they haven't shined up their own image at all.

Plus I think the economic news will continue to improve.

Phrost
22nd March 10, 02:54 PM
Yes, because this bill is wildly popular. The Democrats just need to explain it to the dumb people, and then those dummies will know what's good for them.

HappyOldGuy
22nd March 10, 03:01 PM
Yes, because this bill is wildly popular. The Democrats just need to explain it to the dumb people, and then those dummies will know what's good for them.

Pesky facts (http://www.newsweek.com/id/233890)

If you ask someone what they think of the obama health care bill, the majority (54% or so) are opposed.

If you ask them what they think of each and every detail or the details as a total package, then the majority support it.

Phrost
22nd March 10, 03:05 PM
If you ask them what they think of each and every detail or the details as a total package, then the majority support it.



The NEWSWEEK Poll asked respondents about eight health-care-reform provisions

Yeah.

They found eight provisions out of 2000 pages, that people felt positively about.

HappyOldGuy
22nd March 10, 03:10 PM
Yeah.

They found eight provisions out of 2000 pages, that people felt positively about.

Yes, 2000 pages to implement 8 key provisions. What exactly is your point. What specific provision do you think they missed.

Cullion
22nd March 10, 03:16 PM
Are we talking about the same bill that you said in the other thread you were annoyed about, HoG ?

Phrost
22nd March 10, 03:21 PM
Yes, 2000 pages to implement 8 key provisions. What exactly is your point. What specific provision do you think they missed.

Pray tell, eight out of how many then?

HappyOldGuy
22nd March 10, 03:47 PM
Are we talking about the same bill that you said in the other thread you were annoyed about, HoG ?

Yes. Why?

Spade: The Real Snake
22nd March 10, 03:55 PM
LOL.
I just got an email from the RNC asking for "Fire Nancy Pelosi" money.

HappyOldGuy
22nd March 10, 04:12 PM
LOL.
I just got an email from the RNC asking for "Fire Nancy Pelosi" money.

I've gotten a couple today, but my favorite was a 'co-sign with the president' button that linked to a donation page.

Phrost
22nd March 10, 05:00 PM
Pelosi isn't going anywhere unless she gets caught on video clubbing a young gay man to death with a baby seal, in the middle of the Castro district, dressed as an SS officer.

Robot Jesus
22nd March 10, 05:12 PM
if the republican can stop the coming financial reform, and can find some sort of leader who the party can rally around; then they might have a shot.

too much is based on coming events, if the economy recovers sufficiently they are fucked.

WarPhalange
22nd March 10, 08:11 PM
The Democrats just need to explain it to the dumb people, and then those dummies will know what's good for them.

Hey, it worked with "Reaganomics". Hell, you still have lines of idiots ready and willing give their money to people who are already rich, so that somehow it will come back to them.

Phrost
22nd March 10, 08:21 PM
You're describing taxes.

Reagan cut taxes.

Robot Jesus
23rd March 10, 12:16 AM
phrost, your statement makes no sense.

EvilSteve
23rd March 10, 02:41 PM
Pelosi isn't going anywhere unless she gets caught on video clubbing a young gay man to death with a baby seal, in the middle of the Castro district, dressed as an SS officer.

^^ Scene from politi-porn flick: When Harry Met Nancy

HappyOldGuy
23rd March 10, 02:45 PM
Nancy: She Wolf of the HR.

No, I'm not doing the photoshop. a) I'm too lazy and b) I don't want that image on my brain for that long.

HappyOldGuy
23rd March 10, 03:15 PM
Next year in California, when you combine state and federal income taxes for the highest tax bracket, they pay more than 51 percent.

It should never be the case where the government gets more of your earnings than you do. What the fuck.

I kindof agree with the notion in the second sentence, however as a simple reality check, noone who this will affect is going to actually have to pay anywhere near that percentage.

Spade: The Real Snake
24th March 10, 10:31 AM
I kindof agree with the notion in the second sentence, however as a simple reality check, noone who this will affect is going to actually have to pay anywhere near that percentage.
The ultra rich are smart enough to hire the smart accountants whom can shield and hide money to allow it to trickle-down to the little people.

Ajamil
24th March 10, 10:37 AM
That's why "bubble up" economics works better. Poor people are too stupid manage money and actually save. It'll get back to the rich a lot faster than rich people's money will get back to the poor.

Spade: The Real Snake
24th March 10, 10:41 AM
That's why "bubble up" economics works better. Poor people are too stupid manage money and actually save. It'll get back to the rich a lot faster than rich people's money will get back to the poor.

RJ Reynolds, NASCAR, Hostess and Coca-Cola are already rich enough and bloated with useless middle management.

Ajamil
24th March 10, 11:09 AM
You forgot KOOL and Newport cigarettes.

HappyOldGuy
24th March 10, 11:22 AM
You forgot KOOL and Newport cigarettes.

Snake doesn't care about black people.

Spade: The Real Snake
24th March 10, 11:32 AM
He said "KOOL" not "Kool-Aid"

Ajamil
24th March 10, 11:41 AM
Dammit, where's the vid of Dave Chapelle envisioning reparations?