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MEGA JESUS-SAMA
11th August 09, 12:30 AM
This is a list for shit you plan to cop, the idea is for other people to share their opinions and their own lists. I don't really mean for this to be a "should I buy this? because I'm very indecisive and need help from the internet to get dressed" thread but more of a peer reviewed journal to keep you from buying something utterly stupid.

Schott Perfecto 618 (slim fit)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/118BLKfrt2.jpg
Just like Marlon fuckin Brando. "But MJS, are you sure you can roc--" Shut the fuck up bitch, yes I am.

some sort of suede chukka
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/common-desert-1.jpg
Not necessarily this pair, just a chukka of some sort with a suede finish. might go for an actual desert boot instead of a sneaker.

more big boy shirts
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/41836_1.jpg
I don't buy enough button ups. I'm completely sick of Oxford cloth and I don't find nearly enough options in alternative fabrics. I need to find a brand that gives their oxford a bit of character instead of just using the flattest, dullest fabric they can find or I need to find some more alternatives that aren't denim/chambray/woo i'm a fucking cowboy!

socratic
12th August 09, 02:33 AM
That's one hella badass jacket. I'd buy that shit. Then I'd go wander around shooting Super Mutants with my buddy Dogmeat.

Cullion
12th August 09, 04:34 AM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/118BLKfrt2.jpg
Just like Marlon fuckin Brando. "But MJS, are you sure you can roc--" Shut the fuck up bitch, yes I am.

I think you need a motorcycle to pull this off.



some sort of suede chukka
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/common-desert-1.jpg
Not necessarily this pair, just a chukka of some sort with a suede finish. might go for an actual desert boot instead of a sneaker.

Comical. Clown shoes. No.



more big boy shirts
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/41836_1.jpg


Meh. Another untucked plain shirt. <shrugs>

Lights Out
20th September 09, 08:42 AM
Schott Perfecto 618 (slim fit)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/118BLKfrt2.jpg
Just like Marlon fuckin Brando. "But MJS, are you sure you can roc--" Shut the fuck up bitch, yes I am.

I own a couple leather jackets, but haven't wear a perfecto since my late teens. I may get one of those too.


some sort of suede chukka
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/common-desert-1.jpg
Not necessarily this pair, just a chukka of some sort with a suede finish. might go for an actual desert boot instead of a sneaker.

They're called "pisamierdas" (shitsteppers) in Spain. I wouldn't think someone as stylish as you would want a pair of this crap. Uncomfortable and ugly looking, the best of both worlds, yeah.


more big boy shirts
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/41836_1.jpg
I don't buy enough button ups. I'm completely sick of Oxford cloth and I don't find nearly enough options in alternative fabrics. I need to find a brand that gives their oxford a bit of character instead of just using the flattest, dullest fabric they can find or I need to find some more alternatives that aren't denim/chambray/woo i'm a fucking cowboy!

I wear enough shirts at my job as it is. It's t-shirt time when I'm off of it.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
20th September 09, 08:46 AM
I've backed off on chukkas, the generic man is the only brand that does it well because they have such a slim profile. I liked them for the super minimalism though, not the strange boxy silhouette.

anyway re: shirts, I only find them uncomfortable when they suck.

Lights Out
20th September 09, 08:51 AM
anyway re: shirts, I only find them uncomfortable when they suck.

They are work shirts, thus, they suck.

I won't spend good money on shirts that are meant to get trashed because some douchebag though it would be cool for us to wear a suit and a tie while performing work that isn't supposed to be done while wearing such gear.

BTW, I didn't say they were uncomfortabel, I said I'm tired of wearing shirts. And suits too, for that matter.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
20th September 09, 08:52 AM
you need a pair of nice jeans and a pack of cigarettes rolled in your sleeve

Lights Out
20th September 09, 08:58 AM
I'm a jeans+t-shirt dude, mostly.

Besides, the novelty of wearing a suit wears off quickly if you do it six days per week.

BTW, I'm thinking about getting myself a long coat, any suggestions?

nihilist
21st September 09, 10:59 AM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/moleculo_9000/DEALERSLEATHER2016.jpg

nihilist
21st September 09, 11:01 AM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/moleculo_9000/membersonlyjackets.jpg

nihilist
21st September 09, 11:08 AM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/moleculo_9000/image1xl.jpg

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
21st September 09, 11:52 AM
where to cop?!

nihilist
21st September 09, 01:35 PM
Don't pretend you haven't been to a bath house

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
1st October 09, 09:23 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/BullshidoTrail/1254449194443.jpg

nihilist
1st October 09, 11:16 PM
Won't ask where the hands are.

Spade: The Real Snake
1st October 09, 11:33 PM
Don't you need a, you know, a JOB to buy this stuff?

ICY
2nd October 09, 01:59 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2j5kpwn.jpg
This is an artist's rendition of the anti-mma-douche-fashion shirt I made to give away to fighters. I also made one for myself. The looks I get wearing it are fucking awesome.

bob
2nd October 09, 02:54 AM
That sleeping bag is actually a damn good idea.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
2nd October 09, 02:56 AM
And it only costs $458!

Lights Out
23rd December 09, 12:15 PM
Shit, man, I just found the perfect Shcott 613 Perfecto jacket on E-bay (70's model, if I'm not mistaken). My size and all, but I wasn't expecting to spend that much at this moment.

Ah, well, there goes the chirstmas pay.

TheMightyMcClaw
23rd December 09, 05:20 PM
Is that jacket a full-belt or a half-belt?

Lights Out
24th December 09, 06:03 AM
Is that jacket a full-belt or a half-belt?

Half-belt, why?

Lights Out
27th December 09, 07:40 PM
Here's more crap I want to spend my money on:

Casio calculator watch

http://www.pixfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/casio_reloj_calculadora.jpg

These were the hippest thing you could have when I was at the equivalent of middle-school. My mom wouldn't buy me one because she thought I'd never be ggod at math if I was wlaking around with a calculator on my wrist. Two decades later or more, I'm left with still sucking at math and the frustration of never owning one of these. I still yet to decide if I want the rubber one (the one the cool kids back then had) or the more "serious" iron one.

Altrough I already own this beauty:

http://img.compradiccion.com/2007/05/D&G%20Watch.jpg

Serously, this watch is a chick magnet, all the girls at my job bend over to my wrist when they see this. The guys are all like "cool, the TV chart!" while the chicks are like "oooh Dolce & Gabbana". Women really like shiny things, after all.

Chuck Taylors, black canvas

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VTAVCQ76L.jpg

Man, do these wear off quickly. My current pair is actually quite beaten up, I only use them now for squatting.

Combat boots

http://www.vpcam.com/members/1402226/uploaded/5075.jpg

Man cannot live off of sneakers alone, gotta decide yet if I'll go for the "military surpluss" style or the regular Doc Martens.

And no, I won't tuck my pants inside them, it looks retarded.

Adidas London

http://www.kicksonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/02-06-2008_adidas_london_large.jpg

I'm having a hard time finding them my size and at a reasonable price. Want them badly.

Red track jacket

http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/cccpredjacket.jpg

Did I mention I'm a big fan of track jackets? I own a nice collection, still gotta find a red one and a yellow one to complete it.

It would be cool if the red one had CCCP on it and if the yellow one had black stripes as Game of Death/Kill Bill reference.

Found a nice Puma one on ebay, but wasn't sure of how it would fit, and now it is lost forever.

I'd buy one in white too, but white track jackets are a douchebag/chav/cani sign on my whereabouts.

Hawaiian shirt

http://www.papayasun.com/images/P/cotton_hawaiian_shirt_seastar.jpg

The more kitsch the better. This one will be for the summer. I plan to wear it on all my summer partying, and get plastered, laid and high with it.

Or at least, try to.

I'm not exactly sure how I want it, but it has to:
-Be red or orange
-Have palm trees

Vintage racing jacket

http://thedish.blogs.com/content/images/2007/08/19/appaman_jacket.jpg

In nylon or cotton, to put some retro look on my springtime.

Made in Detroit has some nice looking ones (http://www.madeindetroit.com/portal/store/store.asp?OpenA=4951&OpenB=3565&nProductTypeID=3565), but they cost a ton and a half for what I want to spend in such item. And that's not counting shipping.

Black jeans

http://www.ocsurfsport.com/images/black_jeans.jpg

Not dark grey, not dark, but black. Black as black can be.

Fitted.

And probably some informal looking shoes, but I have yet to find ones that do not scream "douchebag!!" or would be very dated in less than a year.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
27th December 09, 07:43 PM
you need help son

Lights Out
27th December 09, 07:51 PM
What's wrong with my list, might I ask?

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
27th December 09, 07:52 PM
a couple of things, but i have to go to work right now

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 04:43 AM
Casio calculator watch

You're thirty now, your watch needs to be thin, simple, and preferably come with a leather band. The thing about those big gaudy sports watches is that nine times out of ten the guy is wearing cheap shoes and sun glasses he bought while grocery shopping. You'll also find a low profile watch will jive with nearly any outfit, whereas that clunky piece of shit will leave you wondering whether or not to wear it today.


Chuck Taylors, black canvas

Chucks are not the same shoe after the Nike buyout. You can still find vintage pairs pretty easily, since these were common ass shoes, otherwise upgrade to PF Flyers or Gram for similar styling with far and away better construction.


Doc Martens.

See above, although even when DM was good the details left something to be desired. Look up Redwing, and get a classic boot with a slim outsole. The price is steep but the boots will probably outlast your fascination with combat boots. You can find RW cheap online but you have to know your size because they can range from 10 narrow to 10 triple extra wide


Hawaiian shirt

Do you wear bowling shirts too?


Vintage racing jacket

[IMG]http://thedish.blogs.com/content/images/2007/08/19/appaman_jacket.jpg[IMG]

In nylon or cotton, to put some retro look on my springtime.

Made in Detroit has some nice looking ones (http://www.madeindetroit.com/portal/store/store.asp?OpenA=4951&OpenB=3565&nProductTypeID=3565), but they cost a ton and a half for what I want to spend in such item. And that's not counting shipping.

Vintage. $88 isn't that much to spend on a new jacket, if it'll last for a while. I don't know if this is the hill you want to fight your battle/spend your money on, but don't cheap out either.


Black jeans

This is a good place to get spendy though, because nicer black jeans won't wash out nearly as quickly and will just look better anyway. I don't think I can make many recommendations in your price range though, since I don't keep abreast of discount denim.


And probably some informal looking shoes, but I have yet to find ones that do not scream "douchebag!!" or would be very dated in less than a year.

The only budget options I know for forward shoes are aimed at younger people and have somewhat more juvenile designs that you shouldn't be looking in to; I could pull them off, you couldn't, and in a decade neither could I. Common Projects fits the bill, what with their combination of classic styling but practically futuristic appearance, but at $350 and beyond I don't know if you'd bite.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 04:50 PM
The thing is I'm checking and re-checking meassurements on the perfecto I found (on the internet) and if I get it, it will blow most of my clothing budget for the next months.

Would have already bought it, if the jackass who's selling it had replied my message, powerseller my ass.


You're thirty now, your watch needs to be thin, simple, and preferably come with a leather band. The thing about those big gaudy sports watches is that nine times out of ten the guy is wearing cheap shoes and sun glasses he bought while grocery shopping. You'll also find a low profile watch will jive with nearly any outfit, whereas that clunky piece of shit will leave you wondering whether or not to wear it today.

I know it is silly, and I know I'll probably wear it a couple of times and just trhow it on the watch box. But still, if you have an itch, scratch it.


Chucks are not the same shoe after the Nike buyout. You can still find vintage pairs pretty easily, since these were common ass shoes, otherwise upgrade to PF Flyers or Gram for similar styling with far and away better construction.


Will look into them, unfortunately, i don't know of any place in Spain that sells them. Would have to buy them online, I guess.



See above, although even when DM was good the details left something to be desired. Look up Redwing, and get a classic boot with a slim outsole. The price is steep but the boots will probably outlast your fascination with combat boots. You can find RW cheap online but you have to know your size because they can range from 10 narrow to 10 triple extra wide

And how do I know my size? The sizing bit is the one who has kept me from buying clothes online for the moment. And it gets worse with shoes.

My feet are too wide for the lenght they have, so usually I have to wear an extra size. And it varies greatly from label to label. I have shoes ranging from 9.5 to 11, and all fit exactly the same.


Do you wear bowling shirts too?

No, but now that you mention it...


Vintage. $88 isn't that much to spend on a new jacket, if it'll last for a while. I don't know if this is the hill you want to fight your battle/spend your money on, but don't cheap out either.

The jackets are über cool, but I already have dozen jackets or so. I do not need them, but I want them.


This is a good place to get spendy though, because nicer black jeans won't wash out nearly as quickly and will just look better anyway. I don't think I can make many recommendations in your price range though, since I don't keep abreast of discount denim.

I have a bunch of jeans in different shades of blue. I only need one true black jean and don't mind spending a little bit on it. They're gonna be the only pants I'll buy at least until summer, and probably the only ones I'll buy next year.


The only budget options I know for forward shoes are aimed at younger people and have somewhat more juvenile designs that you shouldn't be looking in to; I could pull them off, you couldn't, and in a decade neither could I. Common Projects fits the bill, what with their combination of classic styling but practically futuristic appearance, but at $350 and beyond I don't know if you'd bite.

That is a subtle and classy way of calling me old fart. Nice.

But hey, that was more informative than what I expected, owe you some rep.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 05:07 PM
Will look into them, unfortunately, i don't know of any place in Spain that sells them. Would have to buy them online, I guess.

Check http://www.superfuture.com/supertravel/ for cities in your area. The members of that forum collaborate on maps to show you landmarks, fashionable stores, etc.


And how do I know my size? The sizing bit is the one who has kept me from buying clothes online for the moment. And it gets worse with shoes.

My feet are too wide for the lenght they have, so usually I have to wear an extra size. And it varies greatly from label to label. I have shoes ranging from 9.5 to 11, and all fit exactly the same.

Red Wing runs as close to true to size as anyone else will, so go to a fine shoe place and have your feet measured, then hop on eBay to see what you might be able to find. RW are usually more of a workwear boot but they have styles almost identical to the combat boot you posted.


I have a bunch of jeans in different shades of blue. I only need one true black jean and don't mind spending a little bit on it. They're gonna be the only pants I'll buy at least until summer, and probably the only ones I'll buy next year.

sub-$100 dollars and the only jeans I could recommend in black would be Levi's or Cheap Monday, both of which will wash out quickly.
Beyond $100 you can get Naked & Famous (~$120) or APC ($155 unwashed or about $200 for washed pairs), both of which make good quality and slim black jeans that will hold their color for a long time.
Beyond $200 puts you in the Japanese brands, who make their black denim to fade like blue jeans. I wouldn't recommend it if you want jeans that will be solid black forever but they have their own sort of appeal:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/LeLoupHomme/P1010106.jpg


That is a subtle and classy way of calling me old fart. Nice.

Do you think you could wear these without looking like a Dagon-esque ephebophile?
http://piperlime.gap.com/Asset_Archive/PLWeb/Assets/Product/630/630596/main/pl630596-01p01v01.jpg

socratic
28th December 09, 05:20 PM
I need a new pair of flat-soled shoes. My old ones are starting to come apart. I choose flat-soled 'cause I have orthopedic inserts and 'cause they look better.

Those adidas look bad ass. But MJS is right, it's sorta more a younger-guy thing.

I'm pretty lame because I hate those goddamn puffy scater shoes. They look like you're wearing a marshmellow.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 05:21 PM
PF Flyers, Keds, (slim) Vans, Chucks. Pick one. Keds are sort of feminine so pick a manly one.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 05:27 PM
though if you have a spare $100 - $150 lying around now would be the time to hop on some designer kicks. You can find select styles of Common Projects knocked down from $350 to about $150 and below on http://www.revolveclothing.com/brandpages/CommonProjects.jsp?&d=b

That may seem like an investment, except that they're made out of some of the best leather around, and then lined with that leather, and then they make the insoles out of that leather, and then they make them in fucking Italy. Plus, CPs will last for a considerable amount of time.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 05:36 PM
Check http://www.superfuture.com/supertravel/ for cities in your area. The members of that forum collaborate on maps to show you landmarks, fashionable stores, etc.

Never mind, it seems there's at least three stores listed near enough me which sell PF Flyers.


sub-$100 dollars and the only jeans I could recommend in black would be Levi's or Cheap Monday, both of which will wash out quickly.
Beyond $100 you can get Naked & Famous (~$120) or APC ($155 unwashed or about $200 for washed pairs), both of which make good quality and slim black jeans that will hold their color for a long time.
Beyond $200 puts you in the Japanese brands, who make their black denim to fade like blue jeans. I wouldn't recommend it if you want jeans that will be solid black forever but they have their own sort of appeal:

I prefer solid black jeans that will saty black forever, or at least, as long as possible.

Altrough I admit that those fading jeans are appealing, but they are not exactly what I have in mind for the moment.


Do you think you could wear these without looking like a Dagon-esque ephebophile?

I like my sneakers to have a more classical looking.

Adidas campus, gazelle or country are among my favourites, style-wise. Chucks too, of course.

I own a couple of Vans, which are actually quite discrete (for Vans, I mean) and are among the most confortable sneakers I own.

Altrough I must confess my love for my most recent aquisition:

http://imagecache.asos.com/inv/V/72/728/734841/BlackWhite/image1xl.jpg

Anyway, I'm 30, not 60, there's still a difference, you know.

Should I resort to cardigans and corduroy pants right now?

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 05:37 PM
cardigans and corduroy rock. I own both, bitches dig it.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 05:53 PM
So should I scavenge my grandpa's wardrobe, you say?

What would be next?

Dressing myself in all denim ala Jeremy Clarkson?

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 05:56 PM
I put denim jackets on top of jeans too. bitches like that one as well

Lights Out
28th December 09, 06:04 PM
I have a problem with denim jackets, never found one that looked well on me.

I beleive it is due to me chosing unadecuate sizes in the past. Gotta get me a slim-fitted one that doesn't look like I did put a potato sack on.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 06:11 PM
measure your chest right below your pit, add one or two inches to the measurement. that's your jacket size. then go on ebay and search "denim jacket [your size]" and see what turns up. I'd only recommend the Lees and Levi's, stay FAR away from vintage JC Penny brands like Ranchcraft because they were just as bad back then, but you can actually find a lot of really cool levi's and lees for cheap.

how to know if it's woth shit:
levi's without handwarmer pockets are pre-73 or so, and I'd recommend getting your hands on one if it popped up. With handwarmer pockets it's trickier, so ask the seller what the number stamped on the bottom of the buttons is. They're three-digits, and you're looking for ones that start with 52, because these were all 70s runs and are still good. Other numbers came later, and post-84 is post-peak for Levi's.

Lee are even easier. If the tag on the chest pocket says Lee (R), it's pre-70s, which is good. If it says Lee (R) M.R., it's 70s but that's not a big deal. Handwarmer pockets are late 70s and beyond. If it has a blanket lining, look to see which direction the stripes run. Horizontal stripes = wool lining, vertical stripes = acrylic lining. Buy the former, skip the later.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 06:19 PM
Serious question, how's a lined denim jacket with corduroy neck lapels style-wise?

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 06:24 PM
you mean a corduroy collar, like the one heath ledger wore in brokeback mountain?

awesome, even though someone is going to come in here and make a brokeback mountain joke now. The real trick to denim on denim is finding a jacket and jeans that don't look retarded together. It's one of those things that seems tricky, because so few people pull it off, but not actually very hard in practice.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 06:31 PM
you mean a corduroy collar, like the one heath ledger wore in brokeback mountain?

That's right, collar.


awesome, even though someone is going to come in here and make a brokeback mountain joke now. The real trick to denim on denim is finding a jacket and jeans that don't look retarded together. It's one of those things that seems tricky, because so few people pull it off, but not actually very hard in practice.

Altrough it is hard to find pants ans jackets with the exact same fading tone, I refuse to wear denim on denim if the colour on both is not as close as possible.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 06:37 PM
I disagree, that really only works when they're both essentially new, like this happy looking model: http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=392

The more washed out one piece is, generally the further away in hue you'll want them. But the real test is putting it on in front of a mirror and being honest with whether or not you look like a fruit. And as always, a quality jacket (like the vintage Levi's as opposed to modern Levi's) will be easier to dress with and have a more interesting color.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 06:53 PM
I don't think I understand you there... wearing too disparing tones in denim jacket and pants always looked horrible to me.

But I agree that it looks pretty cool if the colours are solid. Also, it looks cool with a checkered shirt, like your happy model is sporting. Altrough I would have chose a different colour pattern for the shirt.

A quick search on ebay has brought this (http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370263171791&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) and this (http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370272967350&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT).

And it seems people are only selling lined Wrangler jackets.

I don't like Wrangler, too country looking for my taste.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 07:00 PM
They both are good looking jackets, though I'd be a little weary of the Levi's since they mention the size is a "Teen XL". Youth size clothing doesn't really work unless you're <5'7", in fact the length is only an inch longer than my Levi's jacket and I'm 5'6". Double check with a jacket you own.

Lights Out
28th December 09, 07:19 PM
The Levi's falls a bit on the short side, but I like my jackets short, anyway.

I really like the colour, but it's gonna be months until I can wear a denim jacket, due to the weather here.

Need something warmer at the moment.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 09, 07:31 PM
wear it under your coat. layers, man

Lights Out
28th December 09, 07:43 PM
wear it under your coat. layers, man

Don't I need a winchester to pull that off?

Ming Loyalist
29th December 09, 01:52 PM
Never mind, it seems there's at least three stores listed near enough me which sell PF Flyers.


you should get some PF flyers then. i love mine and will not be going back to crappier made shoes.

on the black denim thing... sounds like you should get some levis and then avoid washing them, to put off the inevitable washout effect.

alternately you could embrace the fade and get some samurai black knights, but we all know you won't be doing that, cause MJS and i are the only ones on here crazy enough to buy samurai jeans.

Adouglasmhor
29th December 09, 03:27 PM
Superdry do a really nice baseball boot and I know they sell in Spain. Next do one too with a side zip which is good if you are lazy like me. I don't know if they have Next in Spain though.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
29th December 09, 04:25 PM
It's not you fault, but Superdry is like the H&M of Japan or whatever country it comes from. You could put holes in their shit with a hard enough stare.

Adouglasmhor
29th December 09, 04:40 PM
It's not you fault, but Superdry is like the H&M of Japan or whatever country it comes from. You could put holes in their shit with a hard enough stare.

I admit I was not overimpressed with their t shirts (they lost shape after a couple of washes which being tall means they are fucked) but the shoes were OK, seriously.

Lights Out
29th December 09, 05:56 PM
How much do samurai jeans cost?

Actually I fared well with cheap jeans so far. I have access to a couple of unexpensive brands which have decent cuts and the quality is not inferior to current Levis.

In fact, either I'm lucky with cheap clothing or I'm very carefull with it. I had t-shirts for years that were supposed to get destroyed after three washes and I was wearing them almost ten years after I bought them.

And as for H&M, I understand why MJS despises it, but when you're a college student with a very low budget for clothing and you need something that doesn't seem to have been taken out of some charity container, H&M is the place to go.

They offer casual stilish clothing really cheap for those who don't have time or don't want to think too much about what they wear. It is OK if you're going after the "regular young guy" look. Gayers in Spain love it, BTW.

Also, H&M was the first shop I knew of that bothered to put on the tags how jeans fitted (waist, leg, rise) which helped me decide better without actually having to trying on all the pants on the shop.

But I admit their jeans suck, both in fabric and cut.

I beleive there's Next on Spain, but never heard of Superdry.

Lights Out
29th December 09, 07:37 PM
Another thing to cop.

My olde leather 3/4 is falling apart, and I'm tired of replacing the buttons every winter, need a new one.

Was thinking about a double-brested one, probably with eppaulets and a belt. Cuff straps too, probably.

Found an awesome looking coat (http://cgi.ebay.es/Vintage-German-Officer-Leather-Coat-WW2-Motorcycle-50_W0QQitemZ220531271929QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_CSA_ MC_Outerwear?hash=item3358b028f9) on ebay, but it is green.

If it were black, I would cough up the money faster than Lily on a pastry shop.

Ming Loyalist
29th December 09, 08:13 PM
Another thing to cop.

My olde leather 3/4 is falling apart, and I'm tired of replacing the buttons every winter, need a new one.

Was thinking about a double-brested one, probably with eppaulets and a belt. Cuff straps too, probably.

Found an awesome looking coat (http://cgi.ebay.es/Vintage-German-Officer-Leather-Coat-WW2-Motorcycle-50_W0QQitemZ220531271929QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_CSA_ MC_Outerwear?hash=item3358b028f9) on ebay, but it is green.

If it were black, I would cough up the money faster than Lily on a pastry shop.

here you go:

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/eastmanlanding2_2.php

unfortunately, they ain't cheap.

and samurai run from the mid 200 range and up.

Lights Out
29th December 09, 08:39 PM
here you go:

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/eastmanlanding2_2.php

unfortunately, they ain't cheap.

Want something a bit longer, 3/4 or more, something that goes to the knee at least, and to the mid calf tops.

And a thousand bucks is what I'd call "a bit pricey"


and samurai run from the mid 200 range and up.

For a pair of jeans?

I don't care how good the fabric is, they should be automatic panty-droppers for that price.

Ming Loyalist
30th December 09, 11:58 AM
Want something a bit longer, 3/4 or more, something that goes to the knee at least, and to the mid calf tops.

And a thousand bucks is what I'd call "a bit pricey"



For a pair of jeans?

I don't care how good the fabric is, they should be automatic panty-droppers for that price.

<shrug> sometimes you get what you pay for. in the case of vintage reproduction leather jackets and high quality denim this is often the case.

MJS made a thread that explains the cost of certain denim (and also why some expensive denim is not worth the money.) think about this: back when levis 1st started making jeans, the cost of a pair (adjusted for inflation) was around $200. people paid it cause they were the most durable workwear available.

getting something made by skilled artisans who are paid a living wage and create a quality product is worth that much to some people and not for others. it's a personal choice.

i just got a reproduction of a 1910 navy peacoat, made to the exact specs of the original. the quality and workmanship are amazing. my wife has an H&M peacoat and it is total crap. thin "wool", terrible stitching and not warm at all. mine cost a hell of a lot more, but i will probably wear it for 10-20 more years.

i'm not saying that you should run out and buy a $1000 jacket and $200 jeans, but just want to explain why some people do, that's all.

Lights Out
30th December 09, 05:20 PM
I'm perfectly aware that high quality fabric plus high quality workmanship should be paid for.

But in all honesty I lack the knowledge to truly make a distintion between good fabric and bad fabric when it comes to denim. I can point out the truly horrible one touching it, but that's all.

So if I was to pay a kidney and a half for something, I should be sure, at least, that it's worth the price.

Probably those jackets are really worth 1000$, but they're over my budget, even if they will last 50 years.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
31st December 09, 02:34 PM
the original levi's weren't quite $200 in real terms, but they were so expensive that Levi's had to release a budget models for people who couldn't afford the mainline 501s. They used scrap or inferior denim and left off some of the features like the leather patch.

Lights Out
1st January 10, 01:06 PM
Also, don't Samurai Jeans come in really tiny sizes?

Or so I've heard.

Ming Loyalist
1st January 10, 02:09 PM
Also, don't Samurai Jeans come in really tiny sizes?

Or so I've heard.

i have seen them in 36 or 38 waist, and in general they are 36-38 inseam, so... no. you are wrong.

however, since you are in europe you have a wider variety of jeans to choose from and could probably get ahold of levis vintage clothing, lee, or edwin.

check out this site from germany, www.cultizm.com <-- take the time to create an account and log in, because the prices are lower that way. the guy who runs that place really knows his shit, and you can't go wrong buying from him.

they have a good list of the types of decent to high quality denim and workwear that is available to you in european specialty shops. you may think that you see the same jeans for much less, but they are probably from a lower quality line that looks very similar.

good luck.

Lights Out
1st January 10, 02:09 PM
Moar things to cop (this is gonna be a busy buying year).

M65 field jacket in olive green

http://www.armynnavy.com/catalog/catalog/images/m65%20%20jacket.jpg

The real deal, the one with water-repellancy treatment and button-in liner. I might wait for next fall for this one, already have jackets and coats enough for this winter.

Red flannel shirt.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/andrefaisal/e700375af4.jpg

A couple of months ago I was jocking with a female friend on how I was abit depressed because I turned 30 and was no longer young. Still joking, I told her I'd be really depressed when the grunge revival came. Guess what? It is already here.

Lost my old flannel lined shirt I used to wear in my late teens and want a new one. Finding one such as the one I lost would be impossible, so I'll just settle for a red flannel shirt. Problem is, most of the ones I've checked on stores all bullshit, too thin to be actually warm and look like they're gonna fall into pieces after the first wash.

People are really cutting down costs with fabric, it seems.

nihilist
1st January 10, 02:52 PM
I love flight jackets but I look like a skinhead when I wear one.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
1st January 10, 11:24 PM
check ebay for pendleton flannels

TheMightyMcClaw
1st January 10, 11:56 PM
Half-belt, why?

If you're planning on wearing it in cold weather/on a bike, a full belt will generally do a better job of keeping wind out.

TheMightyMcClaw
2nd January 10, 12:04 AM
I put denim jackets on top of jeans too. bitches like that one as well

For once I agree with MJS. Denim jacket+jeans is pretty stylin', especially if your lassoing cars:
6oEJj9k_fio

I'm considering trying to put together such an ensemble for spring/summer.
Don't worry, there will still be rivets and chainmail and shit on it.

Ming Loyalist
2nd January 10, 01:25 PM
oh, forgot about the purpose of the thread, but i already copped this

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/images/br_pcoat_thumb.jpg

and this:

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/images/br_sweat_blk_thumb.jpg

both from buzz rickson, both made in japan to vintage specs. some of the finest clothing that i own. i hate modern flimsy sweatshirts. i'll probably get some more sweatshirts from hinoya next time i am in tokyo, because they are 1/2 the price of the buzz rickson ones.

Lights Out
2nd January 10, 05:27 PM
I love flight jackets but I look like a skinhead when I wear one.

You won't necessary look like a skinhead if you don't:

-Wear them with whashed jeans with about sux inches of turn up
-Combat boots
-Lots of patches
-Shaved head
-All of the above

I don't particulary like flight jackets or "bomber" jackets as they're called here. They make your torso look like a potato sack. It is really hard to find someone who actually looks good in a bomber.

Not saying they can't be practical, thought.

BTW, I'm seriously considering ditching the combat boot in favour of these beauties (http://www.cultizm.com/product_info.php?info=p153_RED-WING-BOOTS---9014-D-BLACK-FEATHERSTONE.html). They own combat boots hard when it comes to style.

Thansk to ML for the link, lots of awesome stuff there.

Like this a little bit pricey but über-cool jacket (http://www.cultizm.com/product_info.php?info=p333_LEE-ORIGINALS-1960-s-STORM-RIDER-WORN.html).

Question, ankle boots, should I dare?

TheMightyMcClaw
3rd January 10, 01:19 AM
You won't necessary look like a skinhead if you don't:

-Wear them with whashed jeans with about sux inches of turn up
-Combat boots
-Lots of patches
-Shaved head
-All of the above

I don't particulary like flight jackets or "bomber" jackets as they're called here. They make your torso look like a potato sack. It is really hard to find someone who actually looks good in a bomber.

Not saying they can't be practical, thought.

BTW, I'm seriously considering ditching the combat boot in favour of these beauties (http://www.cultizm.com/product_info.php?info=p153_RED-WING-BOOTS---9014-D-BLACK-FEATHERSTONE.html). They own combat boots hard when it comes to style.

Thansk to ML for the link, lots of awesome stuff there.

Like this a little bit pricey but über-cool jacket (http://www.cultizm.com/product_info.php?info=p333_LEE-ORIGINALS-1960-s-STORM-RIDER-WORN.html).

Question, ankle boots, should I dare?

I'm of the opinion that ankle boots are little more than mere shoes, but I also have highly eccentric opinions when it comes to fashion.
Moreover, I'm not a fan of getting my socks wet whenever I need to walk through the snow. Do you get much in the way of snow in Spain?

nihilist
3rd January 10, 02:18 AM
Flight jackets seem to be taylor made for by body type.

I think that sweater is pretty sweet but I ain't spending $150 for a fucking sweatshirt.

Adouglasmhor
3rd January 10, 03:27 AM
I just got myself a navy blue cropped reefer jacket, it's nicely shaped as well.

This isn't me wearing it though.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1070113/PW3A0424BLKAW1l.jpg

I like the look of ming loyalst's one above but the buttons are to fancy for a guy of my age.

Adouglasmhor
3rd January 10, 03:38 AM
I also got myself a Danger Mouse t shirt because I wanted to.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/bigdougie/danger.jpg

Danger Mouse is called Donnie Murdo in Gaelic for some reason. It was a cult program in it's day.

Lights Out
3rd January 10, 05:09 AM
I'm of the opinion that ankle boots are little more than mere shoes, but I also have highly eccentric opinions when it comes to fashion.
Moreover, I'm not a fan of getting my socks wet whenever I need to walk through the snow. Do you get much in the way of snow in Spain?

Not that much snow, not where I live, at least. We got a bit a week or two ago and I beleive that's it for the moment. It's pretty cold, anyway.

Regarding the belt in jackets, I beleive that Schott perfectos are half-belt only.

Also, it is funny how many of us got a peacoat this season, I got mine (a cheap but good enough one for the price) no more than three weeks ago.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
4th January 10, 06:44 AM
I love flight jackets but I look like a skinhead when I wear one.

embrace it. i look like a hippie in them, which is sort of cool


Like this a little bit pricey but über-cool jacket.

i'd recommend the solid color ones, they'll go with more things. they should fade over time as well, to a personalized fade for you. by the way, the left hand twill they use on Lee denim is neat. It doesn't get as sharply defined creases as right-hand (Levi's) denim but it has a really soft, almost velvet feel. I don't know why spinning the denim in the opposite direction does that.

Adouglasmhor
4th January 10, 07:05 AM
Flight jackets look really shapeless on me. I have a high vis one for on the bike and my GF hates it, she says it hides all the work and progress I have done on my shape for the last 4 years.

Still better than ending up under some blind cunts car because "I didn't see you" she doesn't come out with me on the bike anyway.

nihilist
4th January 10, 01:13 PM
embrace it.


So...patches then?

Lights Out
4th January 10, 04:43 PM
Damm you, MJS and dammed be all your posts about fabric.

I'm careful with my clothes and they tend to last for year and a lot of whases. But your constant nagging on how "things were better back then, in the good ole seventies" has me traumatized. To the point that you ruined shopping for me, asshole.

I cannot walk into a store without finding everything frail and sup-par, I keep touching the clothes and thinking "this is gonna turn to dust in less than three whases".

Last time I went to a denim store, spend a good time touching the jeans, trying to figure out which ones were good and which ones were crap, trying to figure out any difference in weight, or in the finish of the pants (seams, buttons, etc.) and guess what? Everything felt like crap, from the expensive Levis to the unknown cheap brands.

It got worse with the other stuff, though, t-shirts so thing I could breathe holes into them, flannels that wouldn't keep me warm in the sub-saharian summer. Sweaters that were falling apart before even somebody put them on once.

But still, there must be a way to buy decent clothes without having to resort to check ebay for jeans made in the seventies, right? I mean, someone out there should still be making decent quality clothes still.

So I'd suggest you drag your ass to this thread (http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54142) and start working, give me a clue on what I'm supposed to look for when checking the fabric or the finishes.

It wouldn't hurt if you could drop the names of reputable manufacturers, preferably if they are still in business.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
5th January 10, 11:05 AM
I never did that because I've spent the past months without a computer of my own to dump pictures to.

I'd probably buy nothing but designer clothes if money wasn't an issue because it would take out all of the hassle; you walk in to a Wings + Horns boutique and everything is impeccable, but it also all costs hundreds of dollars. The key is finding brands that reach a compromise on cost, quality, and fashionability. Carhartt for example makes sturdy clothes and carries a reasonable price, but it's not very good looking (except their flannels, which rock face). Cheap Monday neither impresses nor disappoints me in terms of material or construction but the clothes are hip and stylish at a pretty affordable price. One of my favorites is APC, which carries a steepish price tag, $150 and beyond a pop, but also punches above its weight; they source the same fabrics as luxury brands like Dior Homme and even though they're made in China they're some of the finer made clothes I've seen. Check out their website and you can pick over what's left of their winter sale and pick up some good deals. I kind of regret being broke right now but I'm not particularly hurting for winter clothes. Another good, cheapish brand is Naked & Famous now that they're branching out from being just a denim line. They're similar to APC in price and, I believe, made in Canada, but from what I've seen it doesn't make much of a difference than APC's China.

A surprising contender lately is GAP, who have a serious advantage in economy of scale. Just avoid that stupid shit with GAP printed on it and no one will be the wiser. Their current denim line is definitely a contender. Their Old Navy brand is garbage though, and Banana Republic is boring but good but at that price I'd rather just spring a little more for APC, who do the minimalist thing with a lot more style.

Lights Out
6th January 10, 12:54 PM
Wings + Horns

Not available in my country.

Carhartt

You're right about their flannels, the style overall is a bit too much "casual urban lumberjack" so to speak, not my style, altrough they have some decent-looking jeans and even a nice looking snowboard pants(!!!).

Cheap Monday

Not available in my country.

APC

Not available in my country.

Naked & Famous

Not available in my country.

GAP, Old Navy and Banana Republic

Actually I dislike GAP, in general, I dislike any clothing displaying tha brand's name in big font, that's why you won't see me in a nike t-shirt (with the sole exception of the tiny-logo'ed one I have for the gym). GAP is too generic looking, the desings have as much personality as a brick. Old Navy and Banana Republic are directly not my style so I won't even bother.

Well, at least I won't spend money on mall shops anymore, gotta find decent retail sellers somewhere near me.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
6th January 10, 03:02 PM
W+H, APC, Cheap Monday and Naked and Famous are all available online with international shipping, dude. I also meant to add a disclaimer for Cheap Monday: for every sober, nice piece of clothing is two pieces of something silly.

Lights Out
8th January 10, 06:54 PM
Shit, I cannot have cash, went to check out the winter sales two days and just blew out a couple hundred (or more).

Ah, well, here are my latest aquisitions, all on discount, at least.

Trangoworld shoftshell. For those of you who don't know it, Trangoworld is a spanish brand of technical clothing for mountain sports. The price is a bit high, but the quality is worth it. They make durable clothes which will keep you warm and comfortable in the worst climate possible.

Also, I bought termic underwear to keep me warm on my next trip to snowboarding.

I bought a couple of cheap jeans. One in black and one in faded grey. They come from an unknown brand that gives reasonable quality at a cheap price (or so the seller told me). Checked the fabric, the inseams, the buttons, everything and couldn't find anything different from more expensive jeans. Actually, the quality seemed better than that of the jeans I bought last year, almost as good as 501's but at less than one third the price.

A bought an Adidas retro t-shirt and also, the Adidas Vespa originals.

Oh, and a flannel shirt from Quiksilver that was really cheap. I don't think it can compete with true flannel shirts, but the feel is quite nice and the cut is very good, fits me like a glove.

And I just promised I won't buy anything for at least two months.

Altrough I reserve the right to buy an expensive pair of snowboard pants at the ski station shops if I find a really cool one.

Suprore
9th January 10, 02:40 PM
i don't really udnerstand this subforum so i'm just gonna blunder in here and ruin everything.

Is it gay if i buy a tshirt i saw on a sitcom with a cult following?

http://www.suburbanriot.com/collateral/www.suburbanriot.com/images/products/hellyeah.jpg

god, probably the wrong place to ask that question.

i'll go ahead back to lurking guys. :(

Lights Out
10th January 10, 04:24 PM
Is it gay if i buy a tshirt i saw on a sitcom with a cult following?

It depends on the sitcom.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
3rd February 10, 12:07 AM
I have a lead on these shoes
http://www.taistoisoisbeau.com/blog/wp-content/2009/07/Common_Projects_Achilles_Special_09_Edition_Low_Wh ite.jpg
for only $150, which you're all like "woah!" but that's actually about 35% of the retail price.

Lights Out
3rd February 10, 05:16 AM
Not bad, altrough personally I don't fancy white sneakers at all.

They're a pain in the ass to keep clean.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
3rd February 10, 02:45 PM
Those are leather. All you have to do is wipe them down with a damp rag now and then.

Lights Out
3rd February 10, 04:52 PM
Those are leather. All you have to do is wipe them down with a damp rag now and then.

"Everyday" where I live. Lotsa dirt on my surroundings, living at the country has its pros and cons.

Lights Out
3rd February 10, 07:10 PM
I don't know if you would like Camper (http://shop.camper.com/index.xhtml?lng=es&gclid=CKLg0cWx158CFV1d4wodq0ufdQ) shoes.

Camper is a spanish brand of shoes with a long tradition. A decade or so ago (amybe a bit more) they redesigned completely their stuff to modernize the brand and give it a particular unique look.

Camper sells shoes in the 90-130€ price range, which is actually cheap for the quality they offer. Not only the materials are good but also the craftmanship, they last forever.

Also they might look a bit "different" when you're wearing them, but it is hard to find more comfortable shoes.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
5th February 10, 07:45 AM
Most of those suck, and that's mostly because of the outsoles, which are just about the most critical part of a good looking shoe. There's also no information about the country of origin even though for that price you can have shoes that are made in Europe or elsewhere in the first world. Lastly, textile insoles. The Generic Man and Common Projects both feature leather insoles that break in to the shape of your foot. I haven't found anything more comfortable than that.

Lights Out
5th February 10, 05:49 PM
There's also no information about the country of origin even though for that price you can have shoes that are made in Europe or elsewhere in the first world.

They're made in Spain.

And they are comfortable as comfortable goes, at least in my experience.

I admit the outsoles have a bit whacky desing, though.