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MEGA JESUS-SAMA
10th August 09, 07:54 PM
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Comfort: This isn't even a contest. While apparently not a single person working at Converse has thought to add arch support after 80 years, the PF Flyers Center was one of the early pioneers of arch support and the system (PFFlyers ACTION WEDGE) is still awesome and only gets better as you wear the shoes down into thick canvas socks.


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Durability: About four years ago they would have basically been tied, but after Nike bought the Converse name a few years ago corners were cut and the biggest one was switching from double ply to single ply canvas on the entire mainline (some of the special seasonal and designer Chucks still use double ply). New Chucks don't last as long and don't wear in quite as well as old Chucks or any Center with double ply canvas. Center wins it again.


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Detailing: This is a real toss up. I prefer the Center's silhouette but I find the toecap on Chuck's sleeker. I also think PFF needs to tone down the racing stripe on the back on certain colorways. I can't really pick a winner here but I prefer the PFF.


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EuropIan
10th August 09, 08:01 PM
Converse hates people with wide feet

Domite
10th August 09, 11:10 PM
whats up with those converses with no laces that are glued together or w/e?

I always had the sneaking suspicion that those were really expensive.

Ajamil
10th August 09, 11:42 PM
Converse hates people with wide feet

Airwalks are your friend.

resolve
14th August 09, 02:36 PM
I like Vans and Mossimo shoes for my wide arse feet.

I do have to say I like the aesthetics of PF Flyers though.

Lights Out
20th September 09, 09:05 AM
I like Vans and Mossimo shoes for my wide arse feet.


Yeah, nothing beats Vans for people with wide feet.

They also tend to be helluva comfortable.

Zendetta
20th September 09, 02:33 PM
Chucks are soooo uncomfortable.

SFGOON
20th September 09, 09:59 PM
Chucks are soooo uncomfortable.

Because you're used to heavy arch support, as are most people who wear shoes.

Humans have a set of built in reflexes which make the ankles more stable as weight shifts across the bottom of the foot. Soft, comfortable shoes retard these reflexes and both rob you of stability/agility and make you more prone to injuries.

Going barefoot is the best way to get those reflexes to kick back in. Second best are wearing hard-soled shoes like Chucks. I wear Chucks when I lift because my YMCA won't let me go barefoot.

This is why skaters wear Chucks, and you should, too.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
20th September 09, 11:23 PM
The most comfortable shoes I've ever had have had leather insoles that start flat but, with wear, mold to the shape of your feet. For what it's worth.

Phrost
21st September 09, 10:25 AM
Yeah, I've got a pair of these:

http://www.jacksshoes.com/jacks/assets/product_images/PAIIGLBAGBILMAOAt.jpg

that I do squats in.

Ming Loyalist
22nd September 09, 09:12 PM
just got the bob cousy lo top for myself and the center lo for mrs loyalist and they are sweet. i'm a convert to pf flyers.

socratic
26th September 09, 06:22 AM
Because you're used to heavy arch support, as are most people who wear shoes.

Humans have a set of built in reflexes which make the ankles more stable as weight shifts across the bottom of the foot. Soft, comfortable shoes retard these reflexes and both rob you of stability/agility and make you more prone to injuries.

Going barefoot is the best way to get those reflexes to kick back in. Second best are wearing hard-soled shoes like Chucks. I wear Chucks when I lift because my YMCA won't let me go barefoot.

This is why skaters wear Chucks, and you should, too.Actually second best is basically a super-durable-sock like the Vibram Five Fingers. And THEN it's chucks. Weightlifters have been endorsing Chucks for decades now, I'm guessing though any totally flat-soled shoe would do.

SFGOON
27th September 09, 02:18 AM
^Pedantic.

socratic
27th September 09, 04:05 AM
^Pedantic.LIKE A FOX

Ming Loyalist
27th September 09, 09:01 AM
i thought about getting some of those vibram 5 finger shoes for running, but for walking around i think i'm gonna stick with my PF flyers and whites boots.