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Truculent Sheep
2nd July 09, 06:11 AM
A very interesting article - its point is that our choice of social groups moulds our views far more than we think. Indeed, that the dreaded circle-jerk/echo chamber is self-perpetuating. But it's also who we choose not to talk to that shapes our views and attitudes.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/3731248/to-become-an-extremist-hang-around-with-people-you-agree-with.thtml

...This tale reveals a general fact of social life: much of the time groups of people end up thinking and doing things that group members would never think or do on their own. This is true for groups of teenagers, who are willing to run risks that individuals would avoid. It is certainly true for those prone to violence, including terrorists and those who commit genocide. It is true for investors and corporate executives. It is true for government officials, neighbourhood groups, social reformers, political protestors, police officers, student organisations, labour unions and juries. Some of the best and worst developments in social life are a product of group dynamics, in which members of organisations, both small and large, move one another in new directions...

...Political extremism is often a product of group polarisation and social segregation is a useful tool for producing polarisation. In fact, a good way to create an extremist group, or a cult of any kind, is to separate members from the rest of society. The separation can occur physically or psychologically, by creating a sense of suspicion about non-members. With such separation, the information and views of those outside the group can be discredited, and hence nothing will disturb the process of polarisation as group members continue to talk. Deliberating enclaves of like-minded people are often a breeding ground for extreme movements. Terrorists are made, not born, and terrorist networks often operate in just this way. As a result, they can move otherwise ordinary people to violent acts. But the point goes well beyond such domains. Group polarisation occurs in our daily lives; it involves our economic decisions, our evaluations of our neighbours, even our decisions about what to eat, what to drink and where to live...

...But those movements will not be highly visible to each participant. It will simply appear as if others ‘really’ hold their views without hesitation. As a result, our little group might conclude, after a day’s discussion, that the intentions of the United States, with respect to foreign aid, cannot be trusted at all. We have a clue here about the great importance of social networks, on the internet and in ordinary life, in creating movements of various sorts. Social networks can operate as polarisation machines because they help to confirm and thus amplify people’s antecedent views. Those who are inclined to support a cause or a candidate may become quite excited if support is widespread on their social network...

Arhetton
2nd July 09, 09:13 AM
_ING _UN

Lebell
2nd July 09, 09:44 AM
exactly what is happening at bullshido.

Truculent Sheep
2nd July 09, 10:33 AM
Depends on the typo.

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd July 09, 10:47 AM
_ING _UN

Oh no you don't.

Not over here.



































lol dagon

Ajamil
2nd July 09, 11:10 AM
Nice find, Truculent. Who you associate with has been warned about for generations, but I like seeing the ways it affects a person broken down like that.

WarPhalange
2nd July 09, 02:19 PM
That's why I like being a total shut-in.

No, really... it's by choice! I swear! Hello...? Is anybody there? :(

Kiko
2nd July 09, 02:43 PM
So.. what am I doing here?

Ajamil
2nd July 09, 03:23 PM
A man, passing by a lady and a pig, remarks that a person is known by the company they keep.

The pig got up, and walked away.

WarPhalange
2nd July 09, 03:40 PM
The problem with that is it depends on how the company a person keeps is perceived. A girl I know used to make drugs out of her apartment (for her own use, not for selling), has tattoo's and piercings, listens to Devil Music, but is also a physics major and damn smart about how and when she uses drugs. So at first glance she'd be deemed a "bad influence" on people, but in reality she's not.

Same with so-called "Christians" who seem to be up-standing citizens, but turn out to be adulterers and batshit insane in general.

Robot Jesus
2nd July 09, 03:48 PM
read the true believer

G-Off
2nd July 09, 04:06 PM
Groupthink is bad and is a result of social insulation.

In other news from 1950...

Lebell
3rd July 09, 03:34 AM
.....communist forces just landed in the SF bay area, then again it could be a bunch of lost penguins.
more after the commercial break.

Dagon Akujin
3rd July 09, 03:57 AM
lol dagon


:*(


http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00473/76/03/473113067_l.jpg



Of course, I think this group think thing explains to a "t" all the stupid shit I hear conservatives blather on about with zero evidence or understanding. Oh! Obama is going to run for a 4th term! Gays having rights means that your boys will want to have sex with pedo-men! Science is bad! Liberals are EVIL!!

Fucking redonkulous.

AAAhmed46
3rd July 09, 04:05 AM
I don't understand the _ing _un references.

kracker
4th July 09, 04:01 PM
It is true for investors and corporate executives. It is true for government officials, neighbourhood groups, social reformers, political protestors, police officers, student organisations, labour unions and juries.


Hence every sociocide screed I've ever had. However it is interesting that even members of the outgroup get sucked in to the police ingroup mentality. As far as I can tell, that's somewhat unique

HappyOldGuy
4th July 09, 04:48 PM
So.. what am I doing here?

Keeping us anchored, so we don't wind up barricaded in a compound with a stockpile of guns, ammo, and red bull.

Keith
5th July 09, 10:03 PM
Keeping us anchored, so we don't wind up barricaded in a compound with a stockpile of guns, ammo, and red bull.
You mean it's bad to be barricaded in a compound with a stockpile of guns, ammo, and red bull? Dangit

TM
6th July 09, 03:02 PM
Keeping us anchored, so we don't wind up barricaded in a compound with a stockpile of guns, ammo, and red bull.
Read up on Ed and Elaine Brown. They got off easy.

Dagon Akujin
6th July 09, 03:55 PM
I found this and wanted to post it earlier, but all of Bullshiocide was down. I don't remember where, but since krack brought up po-poes here, I figured it would fit at least a little:

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Lols.

SFGOON
7th July 09, 11:52 PM
What's the big damn deal? He's obviously already dead.

WarPhalange
8th July 09, 01:09 AM
They were just trying to make sure.