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Harpy
9th June 09, 12:31 AM
This year Disney presents to us 'The Princess and the Frog' with its first African-American Princess - Tiana:

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/princessandthefrogconcept1-580x322.jpg

Okay, so I do somewhat understand the calls from people to pressure Disney to have more 'ethnic' princesses but as I read some of the backstory of the production and the changes that were made in order not to insult the African-American community, I began to see this as a colossal joke. Some examples including renaming the film from 'The Frog Princess' (as per the original fairytale) to 'The Princess and the Frog'. Changing her name from Maddy (Madeleine) to Tiana as Maddy somehow represented the slave history of Africans in America and so on. I'm sure someone will still manage to be insulted.

Worst of all is that Oprah Winfrey is in the cast. Could they find no other African American women to do the voice-over?

The Prince looks like a moron:
http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/397/93/princessandprince.0.0.0x0.400x323.jpeg


I have a lot more to say about the 'Princess' thing but I'll can it for now.

G-Off
9th June 09, 01:03 AM
Anyone watched the trailer? There was a black man strumming what looked like a lute in New Orleans and hopping around while singing.

I felt it was a little bit like watching a racist uncle try and be "with it" by talking about an acquaintance named Josť, but who ended up pronouncing his name "Joe-zay."

nihilist
9th June 09, 01:10 AM
The Prince looks like every butt-pirate you post in your man-threads.

Harpy
9th June 09, 01:10 AM
It is supposed to be set in the French Quarter of New Orleans (Disney's version). Voodoo included of course. That's going to be popular.

nihilist
9th June 09, 01:14 AM
Can't feature the coloreds without voodoo. At least that's what old Walt used to say.

WarPhalange
9th June 09, 01:29 AM
Only way this will work is if they make a big joke out of it ala Shrek, in that it is intended to be funny. Otherwise the whole project is made of Fail and Suck.

Oh, and of course she has to marry a white prince. What, a black prince isn't good enough or something?

nihilist
9th June 09, 01:31 AM
Don't question the wisdom of one of the most successful and longest running plantations, boy!

WarPhalange
9th June 09, 01:41 AM
And where the hell are the Asians? Latinos? Native Americans? Indians? Persians? Arabs? Jews?? What a load of shit.

I also find it atrocious that they would include bestiality in a movie for children.

nihilist
9th June 09, 01:44 AM
It's only bestiality if there is insertion.

Harpy
9th June 09, 01:49 AM
And where the hell are the Asians? Latinos? Native Americans? Indians? Persians? Arabs? Jews?? What a load of shit.

I also find it atrocious that they would include bestiality in a movie for children.

Asians = Mulan
Native Americans = Pocahontas
Latinos = covered in 'The Princess and the Frog'
Persians/Arabs = Jasmine, Aladdin

Not doing too bad :)

WarPhalange
9th June 09, 01:51 AM
My parents said that when they were kids, they'd sometimes find a frog, put a thin straw in the frog's butt, and blow. Apparently the frog would basically inflate. And die. The way they explained it so matter-of-factly disgusted me.

WarPhalange
9th June 09, 01:55 AM
Asians = Mulan
Native Americans = Pocahontas
Latinos = covered in 'The Princess and the Frog'
Persians/Arabs = Jasmine, Aladdin

Not doing too bad :)

Damn, I forgot all about those. Alladin and Mulan were pretty good, too. Can't say about Pocahontas, all I remember is that John Smith was a pedophile who married Pocahontas when she was 14 or so. That part probably wasn't in the movie, but there's no way I'd ever be able to watch that movie again and just accept that they loved each other and lived happily ever after instead of him taking her to England and like, giving her blankets and shit. Native Americans are allergic to blankets, apparently. Their bodies just can't handle small pox, which is a key ingredient in top-of-the-line European blankets.

Harpy
9th June 09, 01:57 AM
That's disgusting.

nihilist
9th June 09, 02:02 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15677_9-most-racist-disney-characters.html

Harpy
9th June 09, 02:06 AM
http://www.shotgunreviews.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/disney.JPG

EuropIan
9th June 09, 02:28 AM
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jkdbuck76
9th June 09, 10:10 AM
Why is she hooked up with a white guy?

I'm sure the Nation of Islam would love this movie.

That's what Disney needs to do next: "Farrakhan".

FickleFingerOfFate
9th June 09, 10:42 AM
.

That's what Disney needs to do next: "Farrakhan".


Obviously Farrah Fawcett as the female voice-over,

But who will voice the male lead, now that Ricardo Montalban is dead.

HappyOldGuy
9th June 09, 12:01 PM
Oh, and of course she has to marry a white prince. What, a black prince isn't good enough or something?

He is the same disney prince that is in every movie. It's actually old walt himself getting his groove on. He didn't actually die. He just switched to esurance.

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 12:28 PM
Lily/Other non-Americans,

Why do you give a damn?

EDIT. Why would you POSSIBLY give a damn?

As if it's not stupid enough for white americans to be offended on so-and-so's behalf, we got people on other continents doing so too?

I don't think teh bl4ck is that hard-up for people to carry their torch.

Now, I understand that some positions like the presidency have been historically off limits to...

Err.

EuropIan
9th June 09, 12:33 PM
because disney is american cultural imperialism personified?

Tanhalen21
9th June 09, 12:36 PM
Persians/Arabs = Jasmine, Aladdin


Whoa whoa whoa, did you seriously just group Persians / Arabs as if they were the same thing?

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 12:36 PM
And you're bored out of your minds in your stable socialist states?

Vicarious drama?

EuropIan
9th June 09, 12:37 PM
Whoa whoa whoa, did you seriously just group Persians / Arabs as if they were the same thing?
Shut up arab..

Tanhalen21
9th June 09, 12:37 PM
My Arab side is the side that will fucking kill you for calling me an Arab.

Robot Jesus
9th June 09, 12:42 PM
the only thing I find truly sinister are Disneys attempts to expand to older youth audiences, but I can't explain why it makes me uneasy.

EuropIan
9th June 09, 12:42 PM
And you're bored out of your minds in your stable socialist states?

Vicarious drama?
I don't care that she is black.

However disney permeates the child-sphere here as much as anywhere else in the western world.

Because it's Disney.

Tanhalen21
9th June 09, 12:44 PM
permeates the child-sphere

Sounds DAHRTY

/shrek voice

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 12:47 PM
But you're making assumptions on behalf of another culture's pet mores.

If Britain made some cartoon involving speech and behavior of Pakistanis which subtely went against the grain of how the white British culture was supposed to percieve them, I wouldn't even notice. It'd be happenstance.

But Lily here, she already knows what's supposed to offend american blacks, how white americans are supposed to percieve them, and she hasn't even seen it yet....but OMG...seriously....omg.

It's all by proxy.

Is someone going to claim the P.C. mis-steps will be anything but subtle?

Yes, Ian...IT'S DISNEY. You think their bottom line is sensitive to negative P.R. Srsly.

Shawarma
9th June 09, 12:47 PM
You think this is bad? Wait until you see Disney's 2010 movie.
http://www.fompy.net/fompy/images/2007/10/21/hansi.jpg

EuropIan
9th June 09, 12:53 PM
But you're making assumptions on behalf of another culture's pet mores.

If Britain made some cartoon involving speech and behavior of Pakistanis which subtely went against the grain of how the white British culture was supposed to percieve them, I wouldn't even notice. It'd be happenstance.

But Lily here, she already knows what's supposed to offend american blacks, how white americans are supposed to percieve them, and she hasn't even seen it yet....but OMG...seriously....omg.

It's all by proxy.

Is someone going to claim there P.C. mis-steps will be anything but subtle?

Yes, Ian...IT'S DISNEY. You think their bottom line is sensitive to negative P.R. Srsly.


I made no coment about the race issues...I made a coment about the princess fantasy and how it is an artifact of ancient gender roles.

And no, Disney definately knows how they are going to fuck this pig.

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 12:55 PM
The point of contention isn't the princess bullshit. It's the BLACK princess bullshit.

Read the first post, you slippery, de-railing dane.

EuropIan
9th June 09, 12:58 PM
It's pretty much a safe assumption that lily is wrong in her indignation.

I just wanted to point out the true problem.

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 12:59 PM
Fair enough, Dane. Fair enough.

Now go make me a honey roasted ham. But do not smile during the process.

Robot Jesus
9th June 09, 01:11 PM
I would have changed the setting to Africa, problem solved.

Cullion
9th June 09, 01:14 PM
It's only bestiality if there is insertion.

Not true.

Truculent Sheep
9th June 09, 01:19 PM
The real problem lies in Disney's approach to film making - it's animation by committee, with no real artistic vision for the most part, while down the corridor Pixar does it properly and no one at Mouse HQ pays any attention as to how.

PS: Studio Ghibli is horribly overrated. Princess Monomoke was pompous, po-faced, pretensious and confused crap. Earthsea was a load of old bollocks. Totoro is overrated twee cobblers. That one with the pig just ran out of steam, like the one with the pre-teen witch. Oh, Cagliostro was good, but it was a Lupin III film so they were cheating. Mind you, Spirited Away was brilliant, and Tombstone For Fireflies was genius, but on balance there had to be one or two decent films sooner or later...

PPS: Aardman's gone down the shitter too.

Adouglasmhor
9th June 09, 01:21 PM
My Arab side is the side that will fucking kill you for calling me an Arab.

It's OK he really meant wog, which as we all know stands for worthy oriental gentleman.

Robot Jesus
9th June 09, 01:26 PM
PS: Studio Ghibli is horribly overrated. Princess Monomoke was pompous, po-faced, pretensious and confused crap.


I disagree *drives off*

Odacon
9th June 09, 02:55 PM
Anyways at least she ain't all up in people bizness and whatever, you be trippin.

Zendetta
9th June 09, 02:57 PM
ya really, Princess Mononoke rocked.

Kiko
9th June 09, 03:06 PM
Wow.. Just wow...

Two things came to my mind after reading this.... Oke, three if you count the fact that Disney is really running out of original ideas and ways to present classics without being all PC about it... so..

http://www.animationalley.com/images/animationart/warnerbros/TracyBodine/DSC_0005.jpg


and..

http://www.securecrazydiamond.com/dizq/57574.jpg

Truculent Sheep
9th June 09, 04:22 PM
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my valentine...

QGE8wVTvHF0

EuropIan
9th June 09, 04:29 PM
*spoiler of RAGE*

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c4/Fffuuu.gif

Kiko
9th June 09, 04:59 PM
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Aphid Jones
9th June 09, 05:20 PM
Whoa whoa whoa, did you seriously just group Persians / Arabs as if they were the same thing?

Aladdin isn't actually a part of the 1001 Arabian Nights. It was tacked on because the dude who compiled the 1001 nights in Europe thought it would be a good addition.

If I remember correctly,

The story of Aladdin was told to some French dude
by some Syrian Arabs
who had heard the legend from the Iraqis,
who heard the original Persian legend,
which supposedly took place in China.

Steve
9th June 09, 05:21 PM
This year Disney presents to us 'The Princess and the Frog' with its first African-American Princess - Tiana:

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/princessandthefrogconcept1-580x322.jpg

Does this being the first thing I thought of:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/forstevee/princessandthefrog1.jpg

Make me a bad person?

HappyOldGuy
9th June 09, 05:21 PM
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Shawarma
9th June 09, 05:25 PM
So Aladdin is really a dirty commie instead of a dirty terrorist?

Zendetta
9th June 09, 05:53 PM
^^^ That is really culturally insensitive.

They have Ragheads in China too, you know.

Harpy
9th June 09, 05:59 PM
The point of contention isn't the princess bullshit. It's the BLACK princess bullshit.

Read the first post, you slippery, de-railing dane.

Yes it is a point of contention for me. Not so much the 'black princess' but the fact that they are just transposing a Western princess' trappings on a girl of African-American descent. Is a tiara and white gown all a little girl should aspire to? If it is, then why should the colour of the character matter?

HappyOldGuy
9th June 09, 06:05 PM
Yes it is a point of contention for me. Not so much the 'black princess' but the fact that they are just transposing a Western princess' trappings on a girl of African-American descent. Is a tiara and white gown all a little girl should aspire to? If it is, then why should the colour of the character matter?

Because disney has found that their sales of plastic tiaras and princess dresses are lower than they could be in the african american community.

Was this a trick quesiton?

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:08 PM
Yes it is a point of contention for me. Not so much the 'black princess' but the fact that they are just transposing a Western princess' trappings on a girl of African-American descent.

Considering their language, religion, diet and social status have all been totally reconfigured by western civilisation in the process of shipping them across the Atlantic to be agricultural slaves, I would've thought a tiara was kind of small potatoes. I've heard that African Americans sometimes use credit cards and wear digital watches too!

Even modern-day African royalty wear western 'aristocratic' styles when they feel in the mood.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/leslie.jpg

Kein Haar
9th June 09, 06:13 PM
Why am I thinking that a neck elongated, clitorisless, monkey-eating, naked, tooth-sharpened west african princess be both more accurate and more offensive to Lily?

Harpy
9th June 09, 06:18 PM
Considering their language, religion, diet and social status have all been totally reconfigured by western civilisation in the process of shipping them across the Atlantic to be agricultural slaves, I would've thought a tiara was kind of small potatoes.

Disney could at least 'pretend' that most of the above didn't happen. By placing the story in New Orleans I think we can fairly say that the only way Tiana's family got there was via a slave ship.



I've heard that African Americans sometimes use credit cards and wear digital watches too!

You're mocking me.

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:22 PM
Better tell Miss Pringle that's she's a traitor to her people, too.

http://media.www.thehornettribune.com/media/storage/paper894/news/2008/10/11/UniversityNews/Pringle.Formally.Crowned-3519377.shtml

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper894/stills/fgdi5q4q.png

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:23 PM
Seriously Lily, if African-Americans aren't upset about wearing tiaras (and even choose to do so), then I don't know why it would upset you.

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:24 PM
I think I'm going to protest about all those Disney movies that showed mediaeval English people having not being afflicted with numerous untreatable injuries and illnesses, and horribly disfigured teeth.

EuropIan
9th June 09, 06:26 PM
as I said, the gender role has more meat on its proverbial bone.

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:27 PM
You think she should have had short hair and been wearing dungarees?

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:28 PM
Sorry you guys, I do get your point. It's all about the unspoken symbolism, and a company as big as Disney has to pay close attention to the content of their children's cartoons. There's always a risk that an idiot will take it literally.

Harpy
9th June 09, 06:29 PM
It doesn't offend me so much as make me laugh.

We had Pocahontas and Mulan, very loosely based on strong female figures. Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?

HappyOldGuy
9th June 09, 06:31 PM
Meh. I'm glad you understand Cullion, cause I still don't. Black girls in my neighborhood play disney princess too. This way they don't all have to play whatever her name is from aladdin.

Harpy
9th June 09, 06:35 PM
I could have done better with the script.

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:40 PM
Meh. I'm glad you understand Cullion, cause I still don't. Black girls in my neighborhood play disney princess too. This way they don't all have to play whatever her name is from aladdin.

It's simply that these things which originated in Europe are no longer exclusively European memes. To think otherwise would be a bit like saying that sushi and Judo are only for Japanese people.

Cullion
9th June 09, 06:40 PM
It doesn't offend me so much as make me laugh.

We had Pocahontas and Mulan, very loosely based on strong female figures. Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?

Sure, but they're still wanted by the FBI, so it's not good for Disney's branding.

Harpy
9th June 09, 06:46 PM
It's simply that these things which originated in Europe are no longer exclusively European memes. To think otherwise would be a bit like saying that sushi and Judo are only for Japanese people.

Yes, you're correct. However it seems that the creative geniuses at Disney have decided that a mish-mash of 'princess' + 'New Orleans' + 'voodoo' + 'Prince Frogface' = the new black

P.S. - I won't wear a tiara unless it has real diamonds

Aphid Jones
9th June 09, 07:10 PM
We had Pocahontas and Mulan, very loosely based on strong female figures. Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead? Okay I thought it would be easy to find one, but... it doesn't help that there weren't any female nubian pharaohs.

damn...

I'm so ig'nant.

FickleFingerOfFate
9th June 09, 07:26 PM
Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?


http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/040308/171846__foxybrown_l.jpg

Harpy
9th June 09, 07:27 PM
^^ You have a point. Let's stick with Princess Tiana.

nihilist
9th June 09, 07:47 PM
Not true.
Don't listen to what your dog says.

She's a lying bitch.

Dagon Akujin
9th June 09, 07:53 PM
Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?


Don't you remember that last time Disney made a movie about Africans?

http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/the_lion_king_simba_kimba02.jpg
http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/the_lion_king_simba_kimba04.jpg
http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/the_lion_king_simba_kimba07.jpg
http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/the_lion_king_simba_kimba03.jpg
http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/the_lion_king_simba_kimba05.jpg
http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/ripoffs/lion4.jpg

Harpy
9th June 09, 07:57 PM
Oh yeah, how could I forget!

Dreamwork's 'The Prince of Egypt' was fabulous. It has Jews and Africans.

FickleFingerOfFate
9th June 09, 08:02 PM
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/tarzan/_group_photos/tantor7.jpg

Harpy
9th June 09, 08:12 PM
Disregarding all the Disney animals, can we stick to humans please?

Princess Kida
http://www.steveenglehart.com/Animation/Animation%20images/princess_kida.gif

http://www.geocities.com/like_a_star8800/Image/BioAudry.jpg

http://www.tulumba.com/mmTULUMBA/Images/VI343673CX612_250.jpg

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
10th June 09, 02:37 AM
Disney could at least 'pretend' that most of the above didn't happen. By placing the story in New Orleans I think we can fairly say that the only way Tiana's family got there was via a slave ship.

New Orleans had an upper class of wealthy and heavily Europeanized blacks that dated from its days as a French colony. These uppity niggers lived in gigantic houses, dressed in fancy European clothes, and had classic European education including learning European music on Western instruments. One of the major catalysts in the creation of jazz was when the Jim Crow laws finally caught up with these folk and forced them in to the black ghettos with all the ex-slaves. This is where jazz' European folk roots come from.

Kein Haar
10th June 09, 07:39 AM
The real MJS is back!

More youtube videos of black-and-white classics which nobody in your generation appreciaties!

MJS! MJS! MJS!

nihilist
10th June 09, 09:49 AM
lol.

nihilist
10th June 09, 09:54 AM
Disregarding all the Disney animals, can we stick to humans please? (http://patterico.com/wp/wp-content/images/women-on-all-fours-as-cows.jpg)

Shawarma
10th June 09, 10:02 AM
Sinbad is a bad example of the multiculturalism of Disney. Everything remotely Arabian had been surgically removed from the story.

Ajamil
10th June 09, 10:04 AM
It doesn't offend me so much as make me laugh.

We had Pocahontas and Mulan, very loosely based on strong female figures. Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?

Let Disney stick with giving girls vicarious princess experiences. When they grow up, they can have more heroic fake role models.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15776/635804-blackpanther3_large.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f3/Uxm449.jpg/250px-Uxm449.jpg

Spade: The Real Snake
10th June 09, 10:25 AM
Are there no African-American icons or legends that Disney could have used instead?
Aunt Remus?

FickleFingerOfFate
10th June 09, 10:44 AM
Aunt Remus?


Was her maiden name Jemima?

Kiko
10th June 09, 01:50 PM
Lily, shall we get you one of these?

http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/3143_subfeature.jpg

Ajamil
10th June 09, 02:02 PM
After that, I have to.
http://funnypictures.generalhilarity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/feminism.jpg

Shawarma
10th June 09, 02:20 PM
What a stupid asshole demotivator.

EuropIan
10th June 09, 02:28 PM
So you approve?

Shawarma
10th June 09, 02:29 PM
I rarely agree with internet limp-dicks shitting on feminism, no.

EuropIan
10th June 09, 02:30 PM
Feminism is often misunderstood.

Shawarma
10th June 09, 02:31 PM
Often by feminists, even.

EuropIan
10th June 09, 02:33 PM
By "feminists", yes.

Kiko
10th June 09, 03:46 PM
I'm far from feminist, but if you tell me to go bake you something, I'll smack you with the rolling pin.

EuropIan
10th June 09, 03:55 PM
What if I asked you really nicely?

Spade: The Real Snake
10th June 09, 04:14 PM
I'm far from feminist, but if you tell me to go bake you something, I'll smack you with the rolling pin.

Isn't there a lonely kitchen waiting for you to go jiggle a couple of pots and pans?

Zendetta
10th June 09, 04:35 PM
Feminism is often misunderstood.


Often by feminists, even.

Oh Mr. Shawarma, you do go on!

We simply MUST have your perspective on this matter at once!

EuropIan
10th June 09, 04:37 PM
I actually agree* with shawarma on this.

Zendetta
10th June 09, 04:42 PM
Well, lets hear you freakin' nancy boys rant about it before your periods end and you come down out of your rage spiral.

Spade: The Real Snake
10th June 09, 04:48 PM
It is penisdrum teim now?

EuropIan
10th June 09, 05:02 PM
My problem if feminism is closely tied to my problems with post-modernism. (sophistry)

In this case, reading a gender battle into things where there is none.

This isn't about RAAAGH BITCHES NEED TO STAY IN THE KITCHEN RAAAGH.

It's about hyper intellectualising issues that make no sense in the gender struggle.

Such as math.

Not "boys are better at math than girls" which is a bullshit statement, but math itself.


I regonize the cultural history and biological differences and how these help enforce the gender roles and I agree with many of the questions feminism asks such as: " why are the womens roles and identity so closely defined in camparison to men?"

I know sophistry when I see it. And Feminist literature and rhetoric can be prone to it.

Tanhalen21
10th June 09, 10:20 PM
I know sophistry when I see it. And Feminist literature and rhetoric can be prone to it.

So what you're trying to say is that Kate Chopin's the Awakening sucked balls.

EuropIan
11th June 09, 04:40 AM
So what you're trying to say is that Kate Chopin's the Awakening sucked balls.
It doesn't want to. BUT YOU MEN ARE FORCING IT TO WITH YOUR HUEG COCKS. OMG JUST WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TELLING THEM WHAT IS GOOD OR BAD!? HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THAT ANY BOOK COULD BE AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER BOOK? HOW DARE YOU!!!

p.s. gender neutral "suck ass" plx.

Kiko
11th June 09, 05:20 AM
*jiggles a pan into the back of Snake's head* You're right, I feel much better now!

I like the direction this thread has taken!

Can we watch Die Hard or True Lies now? Just no stupid chick flick!

bob
11th June 09, 06:53 AM
True Lies is the unholy melding of a chick flick and a teenage boy's spy action film.

It's a genre all on its own. That and Mr and Mrs Smith.

bob
11th June 09, 07:02 AM
I'm thinking of writing a script about a Hollywood starlet who adopts a bevy of multiracial third world kids and then decides she doesn't want them anymore and sends them all back to their villages. They claw their way back out of the gutter again and track her down to enact a horrific but cinematically enriching revenge.

It's a Rags to Riches to Rags Japanese Horror Revenge story with a social message. pm me if you want in on the ground floor investing in this baby.

EuropIan
11th June 09, 07:10 AM
Conversely High Fidelity has all the trappings of a chick flick, yet it is targeted at men.

EuropIan
11th June 09, 07:11 AM
And by men, I mean geeky, elitist, man-children.

Kein Haar
11th June 09, 09:13 AM
I'm thinking of writing a script about a Hollywood starlet who adopts a bevy of multiracial third world kids and then decides she doesn't want them anymore and sends them all back to their villages. They claw their way back out of the gutter again and track her down to enact a horrific but cinematically enriching revenge.

It's a Rags to Riches to Rags Japanese Horror Revenge story with a social message. pm me if you want in on the ground floor investing in this baby.

No PM needed. I give my public support.

Marrt
11th June 09, 12:46 PM
And by men, I mean geeky, elitist, man-children.

way to insult 90% of this board...

EuropIan
11th June 09, 12:51 PM
I love High Fidelity

6CfFrIorz6k

Zendetta
11th June 09, 01:05 PM
No PM needed. I give my public support.

Seriously, that is a brilliant High Concept.

Doubly so if the kids can be afflicted with various disfiguring third-world poverty diseases (rickets, cleft pallets, leprosy, etc).

Dagon Akujin
11th June 09, 03:07 PM
I loved The Awakening.







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Oh fucks.