View Full Version : Pharmaceuticals found in fish near waste-treatment plants

25th March 09, 12:05 PM

So basically every drug that is excreted renally or dumped down the drain at hospitals ends up back in the water supply. Duh.

Is it enough to cause us problems? Who knows.

Probably though.

25th March 09, 12:18 PM
Water filtration plants, motherfucker, do you speak it?

25th March 09, 12:57 PM

Eat only the depressed fish, as they obviously haven't ingested any pills.

25th March 09, 12:58 PM
Water filtration plants, motherfucker, do you speak it?

That really doesn't make it okay....

25th March 09, 01:27 PM
As far as your drinking water is concerned, I believe it pretty much does. That just leaves all the mind-control drugs SFGOOn and his friends put in just to mess with Riddeck.

Drugs in the water supply aren't a good thing if you use it to water your crops with, though.

25th March 09, 02:28 PM
"Fuck this pharmaceutically tainted water! My corn is experiencing dry mouth, nasuea, and somnombulance! It does, however, have a surprisingly stable mood."

25th March 09, 02:40 PM
My corn's gone all faggy. Too much oestrogen, I think.

Aphid Jones
25th March 09, 03:37 PM
Mmm, estrogen fish.

25th March 09, 05:25 PM
Water filtration plants, motherfucker, do you speak it?
currently there are no water filtration plants that can clean all of unknown pharmaceuticals out. Most cites haven't been updated in decades.

One of the big issues is that of endocrine disruptors, chemicals that mimic endogenous hormones and interfere with natural growth cycles.

bisphenol-a, used to make polyester plastics and such, is probably one of the most recent to make the news. Estrogenicity was reported in animal test models, but was denied in favor of the FDA's own research. since the 90's well over 100 studies have linked it to a rainbow of conditions (obesity, cancer, developmental toxicity...).

Canada banned its use while the FDA, etc denied the relevance on the basis of their own dated studies, to which JAMA has not withheld criticism.

The editorial accompanying the Lang study's publication in JAMA criticized the FDA's assessment of bisphenol A: "A fundamental problem is that the current ADI [acceptable daily intake] for BPA is based on experiments conducted in the early 1980s using outdated methods (only very high doses were tested) and insensitive assays. More recent findings from independent scientists were rejected by the FDA, apparently because those investigators did not follow the outdated testing guidelines for environmental chemicals, whereas studies using the outdated, insensitive assays (predominantly involving studies funded by the chemical industry) are given more weight in arriving at the conclusion that BPA is not harmful at current exposure levels."[11]

The Union of Concerned Scientists similarly criticized the agency saying, "We're concerned that the FDA is basing its conclusion on two studies while downplaying the results of hundreds of other studies...This appears to be a case of cherry-picking data with potentially high cost to human health."[79] The chemical industry had earlier been criticized by Democrats and their allies. David Michaels, who served in the Clinton Administration, told the Washington Post that "Tobacco figured this out, and essentially it's the same model … If you fight the science, you're able to postpone regulation and victim compensation, as well. As in this case, eventually the science becomes overwhelming. But if you can get five or 10 years of avoiding pollution control or production of chemicals, you've greatly increased your product."[18] Diana Zuckerman, president of the National Research Center for Women and Families, also criticized the FDA stating "At the very least, the FDA should require a prominent warning on products made with BPA"

Other chemicals considered in the same class are PCBs, some dioxins, half a pound of phenolic compounds, like nonylphenol, even some chlorinated aromatics have been implicated.

Hexachlorophene was used as a topical antibacterial in soaps and newborn wash made by the good folks a mennen. Is listed as a teratogen in the MSDS and has a long half life in soil. Most companies have moved over to using triclosan or triclocarban. Triclocarban has been shown in rat studies to enhance activity of endogenous testosterone. The rats in question had enlarged prostates, sexual organs. The interesting thing is that the amount given to them was proportional to the amount that could be obtained during a normal shower using a soap containing it.

strange times

25th March 09, 05:32 PM
That's why I only drink pure mercury from lead drinkware. I know exactly what it's going to do.

25th March 09, 05:37 PM
what don't you want HUGE TESTICLES!! What kind of a man wouldn't want that?