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Cullion
4th March 09, 08:30 AM
This newspaper report contains some speculation and hyperbole.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/86981/MI5-alert-on-bank-riots

It is however, not the first report of senior members of the government or national security establishment expressing concern that by the summer, Britain will be experiencing civil unrest and possible political upheaval akin to what's happened in Iceland, Greece, Ireland and other countries in Europe.

Iceland is inhabited, as far as I can tell, by well educated largely middle class, ethnically homogenous people living in nothing more cramped than 'suburban' conditions.

The UK has several metropoli with populations over 1 million, with some ethnic
tensions and far higher population density, so it could by substantially nastier.

What I find odd about these reports is that normally such a thing wouldn't be leaked, in case it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

jubei33
4th March 09, 09:34 AM
maybe you should start burning top level bankers. It sure beats coal.

these guys seem to think that they don't care too much about it either. There's a lot of blame to be spread around and people are angry. Might be justified to be anxious about a roit or two.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/2/115827/7121/136/703638

Kein Haar
4th March 09, 09:37 AM
Eating all those fly agaric mushrooms don't help matters either.

Cullion
4th March 09, 09:44 AM
whut?

Kein Haar
4th March 09, 09:53 AM
Well, mainly the Icelandic.

Wait til they unleash the Berserkergangs.

Cullion
4th March 09, 10:16 AM
You're not taking this seriously. This is a serious thread.

Shawarma
4th March 09, 10:46 AM
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270911970_db35fdd4ca.jpg
Anyway, not buying it. Too many things factor into random rioting for you to be able to accurately predict riots. Let's all hope for a really crappy summer, nobody wants to run around and protest in good old English rainstorms.

HappyOldGuy
4th March 09, 11:26 AM
You're not taking this seriously. This is a serious thread.

I'm seriously working on a london accent and planning a summer holiday.

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
Black man gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick
An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!
All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it
While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it
Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!
Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?

I just wish wearing black didn't make my face look so washed out.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
4th March 09, 12:04 PM
roast in the sun for thirty minutes and you should look fine.

HappyOldGuy
4th March 09, 12:10 PM
roast in the sun for thirty minutes and you should look fine.

I'm trying to pass as english.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
4th March 09, 12:19 PM
How do you expect to pull that off with teeth so nice?

Sun Wukong
4th March 09, 12:35 PM
What I find odd about these reports is that normally such a thing wouldn't be leaked, in case it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Maybe their expecting the genetically programmed British sense of propriety to kick in and stamp it out preemptively.

Zendetta
4th March 09, 01:56 PM
Dude, people (well, politicians and pundits anyway) have actually spoken about martial law as a response to civil unrest/economic misery in the US.

Talk about a slippery slope - we've slipped so far down that fucker that this shit is talked about openly and nobody freaks out.

Posse Commitatus has eroded, US Military has been rotated Stateside for the explicit purpose of dealing with civil unrest and societal breakdown, and there are rumors of internment camps ala FEMA/Katrina.

I see a Bad Moon Risin'.

KO'd N DOA
4th March 09, 02:05 PM
Well be sure to send the kids to Canada like in WWII, or to people in the country with big armoires to magical lands.

sochin101
4th March 09, 02:41 PM
Bring it on.
I have a brick in a sock and a disdain for rioters.
This doesn't mean I'm pro-government in any way.
This does mean I'd like to commit acts of mayhem under the cover of general civil unrest.

JingMerchant!
4th March 09, 08:21 PM
It is my choice, as a rational, free-thinking individual - to join Sochin in his ramapage through electronic goods and porn shops!

Fight the power.

Wounded Ronin
5th March 09, 07:58 PM
If everyone in the UK were exactly like me there'd be no problems. I wouldn't riot. I'd just enjoy tea in a department store near Picadilly Square with snacks in the afternoon.

Shawarma
6th March 09, 06:31 AM
I'd think 50 million plus limeys all flocking to the same department store teahouse would constitute a riot in itself.

Truculent Sheep
6th March 09, 07:05 AM
How do you expect to pull that off with teeth so nice?

If we wanted makeover tips, we'd asked for them. Go home and play with your mascara, or something.

Anyway, as the Grim Reaper in Monty Python's 'The Meaning of Life' said, the British are pompous but have no balls. There will be no riots. Lots of editorialising perhaps. Some angry letters sent. That's all.

At this point someone will probably say 'fix it or fuck it'. Well, right now it is fucked and there is no fixing. I can't wait to emigrate.

Shawarma
6th March 09, 07:16 AM
You ought to, you've been talking about how much you dislike Brits for ages and how you wanted to GTFO. Time for a change, methinks.

Truculent Sheep
6th March 09, 08:39 AM
Ooh, aren't we a sarky sod? I'll leave when I've got a decent job to go to and money to emigrate with. And that's the problem: I'm stuck in this shit-hole until I can.

Cullion
6th March 09, 02:47 PM
If we wanted makeover tips, we'd asked for them. Go home and play with your mascara, or something.

Anyway, as the Grim Reaper in Monty Python's 'The Meaning of Life' said, the British are pompous but have no balls. There will be no riots. Lots of editorialising perhaps. Some angry letters sent. That's all.


I can't remember how old you are. There was a lot of rioting in the 80s. The miners strike was srs business. I don't think people have changed that much in 20 years. They've just got richer and fatter. It depends how much of it you take away, I think.

Truculent Sheep
6th March 09, 07:54 PM
I can't remember how old you are. There was a lot of rioting in the 80s. The miners strike was srs business. I don't think people have changed that much in 20 years. They've just got richer and fatter. It depends how much of it you take away, I think.

There was a lot of coverage of rioting - but that's not to say there was lots of rioting per se. British history suggests that national crises are regionalised. As long as someone is getting tit and television, there's not much even the old NUM could do, and while the Tottenham riots were nasty, they were forgotten two weeks later, at least in Tottenham itself.

Cullion
6th March 09, 08:17 PM
I was at primary school during the Miners' strike. I didn't live anywhere near any mining towns. Apart from stuff on the TV, I remember 2 effects it had on real daily life:-

1) There were loads of power cuts.

2) A police officer came to our school and gave us a talk on what horrible people the miners were and showed us pre-teens some confiscated improvised weapons that had been used. One that stuck in my mind was a sort of home-made shuriken cut out of sheet metal, filed sharp and with a bolt through the centre for weight. The copper made a point of telling us that things like that had been thrown at the police horses. At the time I was shocked that people could be so mean to an animal.

Looking back it must have been part of a propaganda campaign. Not that I sympathise with the miners' politics. They did have to draft huge numbers of police officers from all over the country to basically live in barracks to deal with the unrest in Northern mining towns though.

Truculent Sheep
6th March 09, 08:38 PM
I was at primary school during the Miners' strike. I didn't live anywhere near any mining towns. Apart from stuff on the TV, I remember 2 effects it had on real daily life:-

1) There were loads of power cuts.

2) A police officer came to our school and gave us a talk on what horrible people the miners were and showed us pre-teens some confiscated improvised weapons that had been used. One that stuck in my mind was a sort of home-made shuriken cut out of sheet metal, filed sharp and with a bolt through the centre for weight. The copper made a point of telling us that things like that had been thrown at the police horses. At the time I was shocked that people could be so mean to an animal.

Looking back it must have been part of a propaganda campaign. Not that I sympathise with the miners' politics. They did have to draft huge numbers of police officers from all over the country to basically live in barracks to deal with the unrest in Northern mining towns though.

Where I lived (Cumbria), it was always on the TV but was a million light years away as far as we were all concerned. No powercuts, no violence. Given that Newcastle and the Geordie coalfields were but a railwide away, it just goes to show how effectively Teh Thatch had isolated the miners. Not that they hadn't done their fair share in that regard though.

Cullion
6th March 09, 08:43 PM
Relevant to this discussion.

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Why are mainstream media outlets starting to talk about massive civil unrest as if it's inevitable?

This is somewhat nutty. I wonder how common this is. Can anybody else find mainstream outlets dispensing fear and panic like this ?

Slindsay
6th March 09, 08:49 PM
Where I lived (Cumbria)

I always wondered why you had that sheep for you're avatar.



it was always on the TV but was a million light years away as far as we were all concerned. No powercuts, no violence. Given that Newcastle and the Geordie coalfields were but a railwide away, it just goes to show how effectively Teh Thatch had isolated the miners. Not that they hadn't done their fair share in that regard though.

Actually having lived in Newcaslte the last seven years (And having definetly not lived in Cumbria before that) I can tell you with a degree of certainty that what you saw on t.v. wasn't rioting or coal miner unrest, it was what geordies typically term "Friday night down Big Market". Seriously, you just thought it was rioting, remember all those crummy Police shows with CCTV footage showing people getting the crap kicked out of them outside bars in a blue wash out while the announcer solmely talks about whats coming up next? Big Market. Every single time, guarantee it.

Also, having been in only a couple of riots I'm probably under-qualified here to comment but I'm pretty sure that they're fucking awesome. Theres lots of beer, weed and loose women.

Alright, thats Leeds festival on the Sunday but lets face it, thats pretty much an annual riot.

Zendetta
7th March 09, 01:06 PM
Why are mainstream media outlets starting to talk about massive civil unrest as if it's inevitable?

Its very weird to me too.

Here's some Fair 'n' Balanced for you:

Dg8oFBU-1cs

Shawarma
7th March 09, 02:08 PM
Woah, Glen Beck really is a phenomenal assgoblin.

AIIIE COMMUNIST SPICKS ARE GONNA RAPE US ALL, ARM YOURSELVES GREAT AMERICAN WHITE BRETHREN!

Shawarma
7th March 09, 02:12 PM
Bwaaahahah, "the military of all people read the constitution every year, right through!"

This is comedy gold. And political fecal matter.

Zendetta
7th March 09, 02:23 PM
Well, if you liked that one...


http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/218576/february-11-2009/truth-from-the-gut

Truculent Sheep
7th March 09, 03:01 PM
I always wondered why you had that sheep for you're avatar.

I also spent a long time in Slough. Given the fake tan swamp donkeys that lurk in wait for hapless male flesh there, a sheep seems somehow preferable. The Winchester goblin hoard's not worth writing home about either - my good woman notwithstanding.


Actually having lived in Newcaslte the last seven years (And having definetly not lived in Cumbria before that) I can tell you with a degree of certainty that what you saw on t.v. wasn't rioting or coal miner unrest, it was what geordies typically term "Friday night down Big Market". Seriously, you just thought it was rioting, remember all those crummy Police shows with CCTV footage showing people getting the crap kicked out of them outside bars in a blue wash out while the announcer solmely talks about whats coming up next? Big Market. Every single time, guarantee it.

Ah! The English Provinces! Can't beat 'em - unless you're Scottish.


Also, having been in only a couple of riots I'm probably under-qualified here to comment but I'm pretty sure that they're fucking awesome. Theres lots of beer, weed and loose women.

Alright, thats Leeds festival on the Sunday but lets face it, thats pretty much an annual riot.

To be honest with you, I'd only pay money to go to most festivals so I could throw bottles of piss at the acts. Someone once managed to throw a motorised wheelchair at the main stage during Reading - it was apparently a beautiful moment.

KO'd N DOA
3rd April 09, 02:21 PM
I think the Summer has begun in earnest.

AAAhmed46
3rd April 09, 11:25 PM
Crikey!!!