View Full Version : Bobby Jindal pwned. Lies, criticisms and mockery.

boondock lee
2nd March 09, 12:38 PM
Now for those who caught Bobby Jindal's speech after Obama's address might be aware of the fact that his speech was poorly received by pretty much everyone ( including members within his party) except by some extremely right wing folk.


Now while many didn't like his speech, what really got me wasn't that he gave a typical republican response ( government = bad) but that in his speech he told a personal story concerning Katrina in where he was in New Orleans with the sheriff defying the bureaucrats and saving people from floodwaters. Only problem is that the story is apparently false.

Jindal lied with Katrina boat rescue story, winger blog plays race card

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February 28, 5:17 PM

One of the first things out of Bobby Jindal's mouth during his Republican response to President Obama's speech last week was a lie.Jindal spun a tale about Hurricane Katrina, when government bureaucrats tried to prevent boaters from rescuing survivors. Talking Points Memo (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal_admits_katrina_story_was_false.php), the liberal blog, pointed out that Jindal's story from that point was a fabrication.
This is what Jindal said:
During Katrina, I visited Sheriff Harry Lee, a Democrat and a good friend of mine. When I walked into his makeshift office I'd never seen him so angry. He was yelling into the phone: 'Well, I'm the Sheriff and if you don't like it you can come and arrest me!'
I asked him: 'Sheriff, what's got you so mad?' He told me that he had put out a call for volunteers to come with their boats to rescue people who were trapped on their rooftops by the floodwaters.
The boats were all lined up ready to go - when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn't go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration. I told him, 'Sheriff, that's ridiculous.' And before I knew it, he was yelling into the phone: 'Congressman Jindal is here, and he says you can come and arrest him too!' Harry just told the boaters to ignore the bureaucrats and start rescuing people.
But now, TPM points out, "a Jindal spokeswoman has admitted (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Jindal_aide_Story_was_set_after_Katrina.html?showa ll) to Politico that in reality, Jindal overheard Lee talking about the episode to someone else by phone "days later." The spokeswoman said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, was being interviewed about the incident at the time," TPM writes.
Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead, but it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.
To put it another way, Jindal made it sound like he was there talking to Sheriff Lee, when he in fact was not there.
This point has also been picked up elsewhere in the media, which is driving right wingers crazy with rage. It's media bias to point out that his story was a lie!
Red State, I guess what passes for a TPM of the right, went berserk yesterday (http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/27/yes-zachary-roth-we-know-bobby-jindals-skin-color-offends-you/) and actually accused TPM reporter Zachary Roth of racism, in a post titled:
"Yes, Zachary Roth, we know: Bobby Jindal's skin color offends you. You find it to be too dark for a *proper* Republican." :
He’s at the stage where the Jindal people literally calling BS on this story (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Jindal_aide_Story_was_set_after_Katrina.html?showa ll), which puts us right back to the fact that this says nothing about Bobby Jindal, and everything about your inability to get past skin color.
Then today, Red State goes over the line and tries to slime Roth with a blog post about him crying in the office of the New York Observer.
I'm like, excuse me? Is this not a perfect example of what you call "playing the race card?"
Update: Moe Lane, the Red State blogger, was really unhinged when he started accusing other people of being unhinged and racist and well, it's too weird to paraphrase:
God save me from the racism of the Online Left. God save us all, in fact.
Moe Lane
PS: Thank you for confirming that you’re afraid of him. The smart thing would have been to just let the speech go.
PPS: I have to ask: is there sexing involved with this? Did they promise that you could wear the moose head during your session? - Because I have to say, you’re showing all the signs of being a person who has five hundred slightly different drawings of Sarah Palin being punched in the face saved on your hard drive.
Sunday update: The story of Jindal's speech disaster has been fodder all week. For a good examination of the many other falsehoods in Jindal's speech, see the Chicago Obama Administration Examiner's (http://www.examiner.com/x-2292-Chicago-Obama-Administration-Examiner%7Ey2009m2d25-Bobby-Jindal-vs-Barack-Obama-First-round-in-2012-presidential-campaign) post.
Also, Atlanta City Buzz Examiner (http://www.examiner.com/x-2957-Atlanta-City-Buzz-Examiner%7Ey2009m2d27-Response-to-Barrack-Obama-speech-by-Governor-Jindal-What-a-JOKE) has one of the best responses to Jindal's speech I've read anywhere. (Even though he spelled "Barack" wrong.)

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Now thing is I kinda like Jindal but now I am pretty unsure about him . The irony about that story was that he was trying to portray the national government as a ineffective, regulation concerned organization(although republicans were largely in charge at the time).

Any thoughts?

2nd March 09, 12:47 PM
Any thoughts?

only this:

LOL, Republicans!

Spade: The Real Snake
2nd March 09, 01:01 PM
I think he got confused and meant "buses" not "boats"

2nd March 09, 02:26 PM

2nd March 09, 03:08 PM
Not gonna be alot of love for the RNC on this site. Jindal looked like a clown. The fact that he was lying is just par for the course.

Sun Wukong
2nd March 09, 03:28 PM
I fucking told you guys Jindal was never going to make it through a PRESIDENTIAL campaign year. He just IS NOT up to the task on a national level; Louisiana is it's own microcosm of fucked up politicking.


2nd March 09, 03:30 PM
I like how he talks to you as if you're a child.

2nd March 09, 03:43 PM
I like how he looks. He looks like Dobby the house elf's Indian cousin with a southern drawl and a hatred for faggots.

2nd March 09, 04:03 PM
I can't help but imagine Harry Lee saying," I don't know that goddamn punjab!"

2nd March 09, 07:51 PM
Jindal is Bush lite, or Bush dark, depending on how you want to look at it.

2nd March 09, 09:31 PM
I like how he looks. He looks like Dobby the house elf's Indian cousin with a southern drawl and a hatred for faggots.


Dark Helmet
2nd March 09, 11:32 PM
only this:

LOL, Republicans!

Rove: Bush Administration 'Fulfilled' It's Katrina Responsibilities

March 01, 2009 4:40 PM

Former President Bush's chief political strategist Karl Rove today defended the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina, blaming former Democratic Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco and local officials for not having an adequate evacuation plan.

Rove made the comments after appearing as a guest on the "This Week" roundtable during a taped "Green Room" segment discussion with Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg and The Nation magazine editor Katrina vanden Heuvel.

"The government official who was responsible for managing Katrina under the Stafford Act was the governor of Louisiana and she lost office in large measure due to the poor quality of her performance," Rove said.

"I think many thought that Katrina was the bookend to Iraq," vanden Heuvel told Rove. "That's when millions of Americans, left or right, woke up to the incompetence of an administration that had worked hard to diminish government as a force for good."

"With all due respect, the federal government's responsibilities were met under Katrina which were to provide the immediate assistance, to pluck people off of the roofs," Rove said.

"The people in charge of calling the evacuations are the state and local officials who didn't." "The voters have made their judgment," Greenberg told Rove.

"Ignoring what the law requires and ignoring what the reality of the situation is may be fine," Rove argued, "But policy-makers set the laws in a certain way and then the policy-describers -- the scribblers, observers and commentators -- ignored what the law did and ascribed the problems of the locals to the federal government."


I was thinking of starting a thread about what Rove said above. But since in this thread does involve New Orleans and Katrina I felt it wasn't worth it. The fact I agree with Rove that the state and municipal governements at the time deserve as much of the blame for the failure of rescue and management.

But this comment "With all due respect, the federal government's responsibilities were met under Katrina which were to provide the immediate assistance, to pluck people off of the roofs," Rove said. Which conveniently ignores 40 plus years of neglect of the levee's in that city.

2nd March 09, 11:37 PM
Dude, levees are hard to make. You can't just pluck them off of a roof, you know?

Sun Wukong
2nd March 09, 11:40 PM
No surprises there.

It takes less than 24 hours to transport soldiers to Iraq. Why the fuck did it take 4 fucking days to get soldiers on the ground in New Orleans again?

2nd March 09, 11:47 PM
No surprises there.

It takes less than 24 hours to transport soldiers to Iraq. Why the fuck did it take 4 fucking days to get soldiers on the ground in New Orleans again?

The pentagon doesn't feel like troops in Iraq need as much armored support as New Orleans.

3rd March 09, 08:34 AM
I just lol'd.

3rd March 09, 01:50 PM
Karl Rove doesn't care about black people.