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Sun Wukong
6th January 09, 11:39 PM
Today, I purchased my very first sports car... a Ford Mustang.

I know, I will soon be assailed by reasons and wherefores why I bought a car that sucks or why I didn't pony up the extra 5 grand for the GT.

That reason is that I purchased this car for below blue book value and it's in tip top shape. I even took it to a ford dealer to have it inspected before purchase. It's still under factory warranty. It's in damn fine condition.

Now, how do Pimp my ryed???? I want to tamper with nature.


Suggestions for power enhancement or general aesthetics welcomed.


I am not a gearhead. I don't know shit about cars. I do know I got a fine deal and I'm STOKED.

Steve
6th January 09, 11:56 PM
Add a spoiler that is at least 6 inches higher than the roof.

That is all.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 12:05 AM
I have no idea what is available for this thing. Isn't sirc into the car mod thing? Scrapper apparently has an actual hot rod rather than a factory model sports coup.

I passed on a real hot rod when I bought this. I was looking at a 1972 Chevelle, that was an 8 cylinder chrome monster. The reason I passed was that I don't know anything about cars and didn't want to spend the rest of my days married to that car.

Steve
7th January 09, 12:12 AM
Yeah, Sirc and Scrapper are the guys to go to for this. Though I would personally go with Scrapper since you got an American made car. Sirc will only tell you how much your car sucks, fuck, he's got a damn thread devoted to that.

Sirc
7th January 09, 02:21 AM
AWWWW

Why didn't you get an STi or an Evo or something?

Anyway, if you're looking for moderate modifications, then go with intake, cams, exhaust.

Should net you some minor horsepowers and some noise and be fun. Get some decent tires (I recommend Dunlop Durezza Star Specs) and some suspension (KYB adjustables). You'll enjoy it plenty.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 02:37 AM
The reason I didn't go with the STi or EVO is that I've always loved the original body styles of the mustang. And since 05 they've gone retro... and I like that.

Ok, uh... where do i look for the quality intake, etc? I don't know how to tell the difference between what "teh lame" buy and what people buy who know what they are doing. Got any suggestions? I'm all ears.

I'm know I'm going to add the over-the-top racing stripes... cause I gotta and flood lights... again, unnecessary, but I really want them so I can blind God in case he's driving towards me with his high beams on.

Any other suggestions?

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 02:47 AM
Basically I want my car to go from looking like this:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Ford/2008.ford.mustang.20237476-E.jpg




To this:


http://www.baltimorestreetmods.com/images/12precut/image_22.jpg

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 02:49 AM
It's already got the side "Mustang" decal.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 02:51 AM
Also, what exactly do the "better wheels" do for me? At this point I've got stock 16's, new chrome rims would be nice, but they aren't necessarily on my agenda.

Is there a performance difference with different wheels?

On the drive home, it was raining and I felt the wheels spin a bit on the wet pavement when I punched it. That was a bit disconcerting, but I'm not sure what to look for for better traction. Also, would that impact my MPG?

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:02 AM
You'll have to take up name brands with Scrapper. I'm only in the know with sub-compact cars and their companies.

But I'll ask some of my friends who are well versed with American stuff.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:12 AM
Also, what exactly do the "better wheels" do for me? At this point I've got stock 16's, new chrome rims would be nice, but they aren't necessarily on my agenda.

Is there a performance difference with different wheels?

On the drive home, it was raining and I felt the wheels spin a bit on the wet pavement when I punched it. That was a bit disconcerting, but I'm not sure what to look for for better traction. Also, would that impact my MPG?

Better wheels, lighter ones will improve your acceleration and will look better.

I've always wanted to see some badass 3-piece forged dropped wheels on a Mustang. Most mustang owners are retarded so they put some shitty ass no-name cast wheel on their cars so I hardly ever get to see anybody do anything cool with their car.

Go with a set of these for now though. Crazy big expensive wheels will not be great for you at the moment:

Work Emotions
http://www.hybrid-performance.com/images/emotion_cr.JPG

In 18's and a good offset, like maybe +0 offset. God that would be sexy.

This guy has them on his '03

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/dcorn/New%20Mustang/IMG_3367.jpg

Sexy as hell.

Oh yeah, what color is yours?

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:14 AM
Just like the pictures i put up, it's silver.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:17 AM
If I put on 18's, will I have to adjust the height of the car since it's factory default is made for the 16's?

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:19 AM
Oh wait, I see, the tires aren't as thick, so the 16's shouldn't be a problem

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:27 AM
Honestly, I keep going into my garage just to make sure it's still there. I got an amazing deal on it too. Only 11k miles on it. It handles like a dream. I almost feel like the hammer is going to fall any second so that my life karmically balances out somehow.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:29 AM
So the stock Mustang 16's are 215/65/16

Which means that you can fit 245/45/18 tires perfectly fine without much of a rotational difference, -1.2% to b exact.

Your best investment will be tires though. They COMPLETELY change everything about the car. I highly suggest either the Kumho Ecstas XS tires or the Dunlop Durrezza Star Specs. (sp?)

These two are definitely the best tire for the dollar on the market right now. Amazing compounds and drivability. They compare to tires 2-3x their price.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:36 AM
Go with 245/45/18 Direzza Star specs all around each corner:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+Sport+Z1+Star+Spec&partnum=445WR8Z1SS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

Yummy tires.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:38 AM
If you put those Work Emotions on your car, I think you'll be the first 5th generation Mustang with Work Emotions in the USA.

Most 5th gen guys spring for Cobra wheels or some cheap set of wheels and in like 22"s.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:45 AM
If I up the horsepower on the machine, will I need to use a higher octane fuel? or maybe some kind of fuel additive?

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:46 AM
Work Emotions are baller, dude. They are serious business wheels.

You'll be wanting the CR-Kai version. They are the wheel that I would put on every car I own if I could afford it.

Not only are they light, they are strong as fuck and come in plenty of very mature and sexy colors.

I'd also take a look at getting SSR Competitions Type C's in Black in 17's since they don't offer 18"s (because they are stupidly stupid light weight wheels) and are sexy as all hell.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:47 AM
If I up the horsepower on the machine, will I need to use a higher octane fuel? or maybe some kind of fuel additive?

Nah, you'll be fine. You're in Washington or in Canadia?

Either way the gas is better anywhere out of California. It's not until you stat getting really high horsepower that you have to start worrying about octane.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:47 AM
Or does that even make sense? I so don't know what I'm doing here.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:47 AM
Also, did you get the Mustang GT or just the regular V6 version?

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:49 AM
Fuel additives that aren't injector cleaners are generally snake oil. Oil additives are just plain retarded and will do some seriously fucked up damage to your vehicle.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:50 AM
I wish the roads weren't so damned wet, I'd really like to take this car out for a spin tonight.

I just bought it about 4 hours ago... barely driven it.

Sirc
7th January 09, 03:50 AM
do this:

Figure out all of your questions and concerns you have. Everythign from maintenance to modifications to general worries. Write them all out and when I get back here tomorrow, I'll see what I can answer and then ask about the ones I can't.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:53 AM
Also, did you get the Mustang GT or just the regular V6 version?

I got the regular V6, though I admittedly wanted the GT. However, this deal was retardedly good. I got it for just under 14k. Yeah, it was that good.

Basically, it was about to get repo'd, and the guy was flat fucking broke. he needed money, I needed his car. Win/Win.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 03:58 AM
V6 is still pretty good though. It's a 4.0 liter V-6. That's still plenty of power for a guy who is accustomed to driving nothing but a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder Honda CR-V.

Sirc
7th January 09, 04:00 AM
Well first thing you have to do then is get a new drivetrain.

The V8 is a completely different beast vs. the V6. You're lucky because domestic stuff is super super cheap and every mechanic and their half-wit son can swap them over in a jiffy.

I'm currently working on the wiring harness for my Impreza's EJ205 engine swap, there's something like 85-100 wires I'm gonna have to re-pin. You'll probably have nothing more than like 5-10 wires to add to the current harness. I got lucky and found my motor for cheap. Generally they run anywhere between 3000-4000. You'll probably be able to get the entire drivetrain for that amount. I can barely get a transmission for that amount.

Sirc
7th January 09, 04:01 AM
But that's all Scrapper. He's all into the domestic stuff. I'm limited to general knowledge and connecting the dots.

Isn't getting a new fun car, so exciting? Get to a driving clinic as soon as you can. What city are you in again? I'll look them up for you. It'll be the best thing you can do for your car.

Sirc
7th January 09, 04:02 AM
I'm off to bed, don't go driving out in the rain.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 04:08 AM
Ok.

I took at look at the cold air intakes, and there were several different models to choose from. I have no idea which one is the best, which one is crap, and which one is a bargain for what it does.

I don't even know what a 'cam' is... I couldn't even afford a car until I was 25, any car.

I am mechanically inclined, after all I was trained to do maintenance on medical equipment in the army. So I know how to use tools at least.

Exhaust is pretty much the same as the air intakes. I don't want fluff, I. WANT. POWER. I don't want sound enhancing anything, I don't want my car to sound like godzilla snoring. I hate that shit.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 04:14 AM
I don't really want to take out the V-6 that's in it, it's still a new engine that is under the factory warranty.

You don't think the warranty people will pitch a fit if I add a new air intake or exhaust do you? I should ask about that.

Sirc
7th January 09, 04:19 AM
Oh they would definitely throw a fit. Always replace with stock everything before taking it back to the dealer.

Good point on the motor thing. I personally like mid-range to upper-end power. So short-ram intakes and exhaust with back pressure are my thing. For your motor, I wouldn't go with anything larger than a 2.75" exhaust, and I would do a short-ram intake. Those are the most benefit for you all around for driving, power and fun.

Neildo
7th January 09, 04:28 AM
dude if there's still a lot of snow on the ground, take that thing to an empty parking lot RIGHT NOW, and do some snow gymkhana. get used to throwing that things weight around. RWD means you will have to learn how to counter-steer real good if things go bad in poor road conditions.

i second sirc's baller-ass rim suggestion. the new rubber will take care of that spinning problem. keep your old wheels though and have someone put some really nice snow tires on them, we're in for more snow in the next month or two.

and get your ass up here so we can go cruisin'.

oh, and you got silver, eh? i think you need a wide charcoal racing stripe, and get a hood scoop installed even if you dont improve your intake stuff right away. mustangs need a hood scoop.

Neildo
7th January 09, 04:37 AM
personally, i hate the new mustangs rear-end. it's expensive, but if i had to drive a mustang, i'd get a full body kit. you'll fuck that shit up in this snow, but it would look super cool with the baller-ass rims.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 05:02 AM
yeah, i looked at kits for a bit, but again, I don't know who is reputable and if something is going to show up and not fit right.

As for the snow, I'm not going to take it to Van while it's still snowed in. I got stuck up there twice in the CR-V and this car is way too low to the ground. I had to get out and push the car with my fucked up shoulder after getting stuck in an intersection on a side street.

I already live in shame of not getting a GT, alas, this car is fine the way it is though. I'm still adding the stripes and the flood lights.

Neildo
7th January 09, 05:09 AM
get some tire chains if you're gonna drive the 'stang in this shit. only on the back though, RWD.

i heard putting tire chains on the front is a bad idea. if you are going down a slippery slope, they will act like skates and you'll slide sideways.


i've seen both the V6 and GT versions up here, i don't know if there is a difference in overall power. the GT is mostly about body styling, has the extra fog lamps like in the pic you posted, and some stock body kit. i think it has stock 17" rims too, not sure though. maybe, MAYBE, it has some muffler upgrades, but i doubt it. probably just a chrome tip. basically, the GT is mostly cosmetic, as far as i can tell.

there are a lot of garages in Surrey that do customization; both body and performance mods, and for pretty cheap. Alberta is really good for that shit, they have a big car culture there (cheap gas) and lots of cheap parts. especially for your type of car, it's common. the more common the car, the cheaper and more common the third party mods. they practically give away body part mods for civics.

ah, i bet the GT has a stick. you got the automatic, didn't you.

Neildo
7th January 09, 05:22 AM
stang porn tiem

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2062029398_dacbc9db07.jpg

Neildo
7th January 09, 05:23 AM
check that hood scoop. hawt.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 05:42 AM
I want a scoop, but the only way I think I could put a scoop on this and not piss off the Ford warranty people is if I put one of those super lame "faux" scoops on it.

Which would totally make me feel like a super poser.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 05:45 AM
get some tire chains if you're gonna drive the 'stang in this shit. only on the back though, RWD.

i heard putting tire chains on the front is a bad idea. if you are going down a slippery slope, they will act like skates and you'll slide sideways.


i've seen both the V6 and GT versions up here, i don't know if there is a difference in overall power. the GT is mostly about body styling, has the extra fog lamps like in the pic you posted, and some stock body kit. i think it has stock 17" rims too, not sure though. maybe, MAYBE, it has some muffler upgrades, but i doubt it. probably just a chrome tip. basically, the GT is mostly cosmetic, as far as i can tell.

there are a lot of garages in Surrey that do customization; both body and performance mods, and for pretty cheap. Alberta is really good for that shit, they have a big car culture there (cheap gas) and lots of cheap parts. especially for your type of car, it's common. the more common the car, the cheaper and more common the third party mods. they practically give away body part mods for civics.

ah, i bet the GT has a stick. you got the automatic, didn't you.

The primary difference in the GT and the standard coup is that the GT has a 4.6L V-8, whereas I have a 4.0L V-6.

Other than that, the only difference is the GT logo and the standard 17" rims.

Scrapper
7th January 09, 09:16 AM
You are most definitely gonna need one of these:

http://jon.fordmuscle.com/Archive/528BBF.jpg

Phrost
7th January 09, 10:36 AM
You didn't get the V6, did you? If that's the case the only viable upgrade is suicide.

Edit, yep, you got the V6.

In all sincerity do not bother upgrading this car. Just buy a different one. Hell, you can get the last gen Cobra for around the same price. Or get a 2005 GTO.

You will get the same advice on any mustang/car forum. Just take it in the ass and get out from under the V6. I'm not even trying to be a dick here, but the V6 is a female's car. We even considered buying one for my teenage step daughter.

Sirc
7th January 09, 02:50 PM
http://www.brothersperformance.com

Go nuts.

Japuma
7th January 09, 08:01 PM
http://www.procharger.com/4.0_V6mustang.shtml

Go

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 09:45 PM
You didn't get the V6, did you? If that's the case the only viable upgrade is suicide.

Well, I was expecting at least one person to go there. This car was a steal at 13.5.k

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 09:52 PM
You are most definitely gonna need one of these:

http://jon.fordmuscle.com/Archive/528BBF.jpg


What is that beast?


http://jon.fordmuscle.com/Archive/528BBF.jpg

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 09:59 PM
You will get the same advice on any mustang/car forum. Just take it in the ass and get out from under the V6.

OK. I was under the impression the only difference between the V-6 and the GT was a reinforced chasis and the V-8 engine?

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 10:31 PM
http://www.procharger.com/4.0_V6mustang.shtml

Go

OK, the supercharger sounds great. My big question is, what are the negatives of getting the supercharger?

What does the hit on the MPG look like?

Japuma
7th January 09, 11:31 PM
OK, the supercharger sounds great. My big question is, what are the negatives of getting the supercharger?

What does the hit on the MPG look like?

From the ProCharger FAQs:
"How will a supercharger affect my fuel economy?
Although roots superchargers have significant parasitic load and do dramatically decrease fuel economy, centrifugal superchargers will yield approximately the same fuel economy as normally aspirated engines, under normal throttle conditions. When racing, however, fuel enconomy will decrease given the supercharged engine's ability to consume additional fuel and produce additional horsepower."

EDIT: Procharger uses Centrifugal SC

It's of course subjective to how you drive. I know when I turbocharged my first car, my MPG droped of sharply, but that was due to a lead foot in my new play toy more then the turbo.

Supercharger pros and cons...

Pros:
Allways "on" ( no lag time) allthough this is slightly less true with centrifugal;
makes great low end torque and good power thru the entire power band;
very safe for your car's engine provided it is installed correctly and the boost is set a reasonable level.

Cons: (pro-turbo arguement)
More effecent due to the fact that turbo draw power from exhaust gasses where as a supercharger draws directly from the spining of the crank;
Turbo have the ability to spin at much higher RPMs then superchargers, thus turbos have the potental to make amazing amounts of boost (25+ PSI), this would require a lot of engine work however;
Great mid to top end power for that cool 60-100 MPH acceleration.

So its really just a preference as to what you want. The important this it to make sure you have a compentent person putting what ever you decide on your car, if it put on improperly you can really fuck up your car.

Sun Wukong
7th January 09, 11:49 PM
Will I need to reinforce the suspension to take into account the newly gained horse power?

Japuma
8th January 09, 12:06 AM
Its a good idea, because you're going to want to handle all that new power! But like everyone else said get a good pair of tires and wheels and it will make a world of difference.
I haven't driven the new mustangs, but if its any thing like the older models they handle like a log wagon. Stiffer springs and shocks/struts (or a good coilover system) would help dramaticly in controling the beast.

Japuma
8th January 09, 12:14 AM
http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/product_photo-xlarge_image-249.jpg

These rims are functional and fucking sexy as hell....
and only $900 a pop...

Sun Wukong
8th January 09, 12:22 AM
that IS sexy.

Sirc
8th January 09, 01:39 PM
Nah, get the Work emotions, man.


Follow this rule:

STOP

TURN

GO.

Get your car to stop (steel braided brake lines, upgraded pads), then get it to turn (suspension) then you get it to go (horsepower).

Sun Wukong
8th January 09, 05:17 PM
I called Pro-Charger, and they said their supercharger only fits the 07 mustang, and not the 08.

I going to shop around and see what else I can find.

Japuma
8th January 09, 08:34 PM
I called Pro-Charger, and they said their supercharger only fits the 07 mustang, and not the 08.

I going to shop around and see what else I can find.

That doesn't sound right... it says on the website is for the 07-09 4.0l v6 mustang. I would call them back again.

If not, Vortec makes a comparable SC for your model.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=93

Sun Wukong
8th January 09, 09:05 PM
Ok, when adding changes to the body, what happesn to the original skirt, rockers, mini-spoiler, and rear-end.

Should I ask the body shop dudes for money back on the original parts since they are just going to re-sell them anyway?

Japuma
8th January 09, 09:11 PM
sell them on ebay, people who ding their shit are allways looking for that kind of stuff.

Equipoise
8th January 09, 09:30 PM
You could always give your wife her car back and buy something not designed for 18-25 year old women. =-)

Sun Wukong
8th January 09, 11:34 PM
The way I see this, is this is a starter car to acclimate myself to the muscle car scene. I got this car for 13.5k, with only 11k miles on it.

Stock, this thing get's 210HP. That's pretty good compared to most other V6 engines already. less than a hundred dollars in parts can see a 15HP improvement.

Hell, just changing the muffler out can pick up 10HP.

With about 1.5K in parts, I can reinforce the suspension, add 25-30 HP, change the grill, swap the spoiler, add some cool vinyl, and totally alter the interior.

All for 4k less than buying one of these from the dealership.

I can do most of the changes I need myself and still sell the car for more than I put into it.

I can buy the premium rims for this off of ebay for about $500.

Have you guys looked at other stock V6's in comparison? I could have bought an 06 GT for less money, maybe, but then I'd have to deal with whatever punishment the previous owner may have put it through.

Sirc
9th January 09, 04:59 PM
They shouldn't resell them, you should keep them. Never know when you'll need to go back to stock.

Sun Wukong
10th January 09, 02:45 AM
hey sirc, I went to the Work website and you are right, their stuff is pretty damn sweet.

However, I'm a novice at this kind of thing. How do I know what kind of wheels will fit on the mustang? Also, how do I know what will work well with the mustang? i don't even know what offset is, I looked it up, but I'm still kinda confused about it.

Sirc, what is your phone number? IM me your number and explain this whole crazy car-mod thing.

Scrapper
16th January 09, 11:28 AM
What is that beast?


http://jon.fordmuscle.com/Archive/528BBF.jpg

It's a 500 horsepower big-block ford V8. Should bolt right in, but you will need to cut a scoop into the hood and shorten the shock towers.

Shawarma
16th January 09, 11:55 AM
Looks like R2-D2's rural cousin.

Halfrican
22nd January 09, 04:04 AM
Nobody in this thread knows anything about Mustangs.

Stay with the stock suspension, it doesn't sound like you are gonna be racing anybody and the Mustangs have a solid axle suspension instead of IRS. So putting stiffer suspension on the back, gives you a sensation that the entire backend of your car is sliding back and forth everytime you hit a small bump...because it sorta is, even with the panhard bar. Also, it will cause you to LOSE traction when accelerating because it reduces weight transfer to the rear tires - something you won't have to worry about.

On previous mustangs there have been very limited aftermarket parts for the V6, but people have actually taken to modding the new V6 mustangs since it comes with a much more capable engine. Check out stangsuspension.com and maximummotorsports.com for good deals on parts.

Don't replace anything in the drivetrain until you break it either, it will cost you the same amount either way. The only thing that might need changed before failure would be the clutch if it was slipping, but you won't be making that kind of power anyways. Do not ever get a lighter weight flywheel by the way, Mustangs are too heavy to daily drive with a light weight one unless you love driving like an asshole.

By the way as soon as you make any permanent mods to your engine, don't even bother taking your car back to Ford for warranty service. It doesn't matter if your battery cables are defective, if you have an aftermarket muffler they will find a way to blame it.

Don't spend a PENNY on ignitions, spark plugs, or plug wires, that shit doesn't do anything, I don't care what anybody says. The best mod you can get is a good tune and more aggressive cams, without these the power gains from exhaust and intake mods are all in your head. You won't notice 3whp.

Hope I could help.

Sun Wukong
22nd January 09, 04:12 AM
thanks dude, that's a huge help.

Neildo
22nd January 09, 04:18 AM
thread won.

Sun Wukong
22nd January 09, 04:23 AM
yeah, so I'm probably not going to mod the engine or drive train any time soon. as long as it's under warranty anyway. I'll stick to cosmetics, interior, and wheels for now. I'll just put the stock wheels back on when I take it back to the shop.

jvjim
22nd January 09, 07:32 PM
Dude, just enjoy the feeling of driving an American tradition. It's okay to be American now. Oh yeah, mustangfistbump.

Cullion
25th January 09, 10:38 AM
You need a confederate flag on that pronto.

Neildo
25th January 09, 02:00 PM
saw a chinese dude in town driving a new black shelby cobra mustang last night. that thing is a fucking monster. you should make yours look like that.

Sun Wukong
25th January 09, 03:47 PM
You're right, that thing is a monster.

Ing_Un_Podong
10th February 09, 03:37 AM
You're right, that thing is a monster.


Thats a SEXY monster...

https://www.cervinis.com/Files/Image/products/1200_1_middle.png

The Mustang is the sexiest American car imho, one of the few i like.
And dirt cheap for what you get.

Sun Wukong
10th February 09, 11:35 AM
It's a 500 horsepower big-block ford V8. Should bolt right in, but you will need to cut a scoop into the hood and shorten the shock towers.

You are a prince among men sir.

Neildo
19th March 09, 04:18 AM
so dude, any progress?

i recommend a bodykit by saleen. http://www.saleen.com/default.asp

mustang rear windows should have louvers. they look awesome.

Sun Wukong
19th March 09, 06:21 AM
no progress yet, but I'm putting away some money in a fund to get the car remodeled a little.

I really, really like the idea of a big block v8 in it, but I'm going to wait until the warranty is up on the drive train.

I have looked very hard at the saleen body kits and some interior upgrades. I have 2 grand set aside for it as of right now; i'm slowly stocking back cash aside from my regular 30% monthly savings. My plan is to have 6k and totally remodel the interior and body kit with the best upgrades I can afford. no homo flat screens, I was thinking about chrome, chrome, 20s, body kit, and some cool interior lighting. No ground effects or that kind of thing, I want it to look like satan lives under the seats and has a hard on for the souls of lesser vehicles.

Japuma
19th March 09, 10:51 PM
My plan is to have 6k and totally remodel the interior and body kit with the best upgrades I can afford. no homo flat screens, I was thinking about chrome, chrome, 20s, body kit, and some cool interior lighting. No ground effects or that kind of thing, I want it to look like satan lives under the seats and has a hard on for the souls of lesser vehicles.

ACK! 20s???? By the gods of unsprung weight NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo1.jpg

Sun Wukong
19th March 09, 10:55 PM
Alright, alright, I'll stick with 18's then. Don't worry, I'm changing the breaks while I'm at it.

I have a question about the Big Block ford V8. Will I have to purchase a rebuilt one? I assume you are talking about the 460 Ford V-8? Will I have to change the wiring harness as well?

Japuma
19th March 09, 11:35 PM
It will not be worth it... If you are that worried about it and don't want to go FI... save your money, sell your car and buy a GT.

If it were me, I would just slap the prochargers on it and call it a day, insted of dealing with the money pit of swapping an engine. I've been down that road before on an easy swap, (B18C1 in to a Civic) and it sucks.

Sun Wukong
19th March 09, 11:52 PM
A big block isn't really that expensive and I'm going to go for the gusto, I might as well go all the way to a 500HP engine.

For a small investment, I could have a hell of a driving machine that I'd have to spend far more to get if I bought one pre-built.

I plan on having a badass car that will last me a very long time. I honestly never intend to sell this vehicle for a very, very long time. Unless of course selling it and buying up a GT would actually save me money on putting in that big block up there.

Neildo
20th March 09, 02:22 AM
brakes. BRAAAAAAAKES.

Japuma
20th March 09, 08:09 AM
It's not the cost of the motor thats prohibitive, it's the cost of all the baggage that comes along with it, that is. That 460 CI is a BIG motor, you are talking about extensive modification to even get that block squeezed in the frame rails. Not to mention how the added weight will affect your suspension, front to back weight ratio, braking.... everything... Plus will your stock tranny bolt up to the new motor, or even be able to handle 500 hp for that matter? There is a metric shit ton of things to think about before concitering this. I would recommend lurking some mustang forums to see what people have done before. Usally you can find one or two complete swaps with pictures that show the amount of labor that goes in them along with tips.