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Tanhalen21
10th November 08, 03:13 AM
So this winter break, I am taking a course to become an Advanced PADI diver with my sister and my dad. We have all been scuba diving / snorkeling a couple times, but obviously nothing too deep since we aren't certified. I'm pretty excited but I obviously have some concerns about deeper diving (the bends, nitrogen narcosis, etc.). I'm pretty sure there's nothing to worry about since we'll be accompanied by a PADI certified instructor the whole time and we'll learn about all the precautions and stuff.

Was just wondering if anyone on Sociocide has any experience with scuba diving and such and feels like talking about all things scuba! (I doubt if I'll get any responses but I thought it'd be worth a try anyway). I've been wanting to get certified for a pretty long time so I'm moderately psyched.

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Steve
10th November 08, 04:57 AM
First and only time I went under with a tank was on the reef. Seeing a fish the size of a coffee table with me and the wall of reef on my other side... is quite a feeling...

Both shitting ourselves is another thing and we don't speak of it.

billy sol hurok
10th November 08, 08:02 AM
How is it you're going directly to "Advanced" if you've no certification at all? Unless things have changed, first you get Open Water c-card, then Advanced, then whatever else you might want to pursue.

As for safety, yes they'll teach you how to stay well within the tables.* Which you should learn, or at least learn how to use, even though everyone has fancy-shmancy dive computers these days.

That said, diving is excellent. There's something very relaxing about being able to move in three dimensions without regard to gravity.

Kein Haar
10th November 08, 08:41 AM
Sounds cool in theory...but I don't get it for recreational purposes. What a pain in the ass the equipment is. I certified the YMCA and then a nitrox course...and that was more than enough.

I'd rather be more selective about the venue and snorkel.

billy sol hurok
10th November 08, 09:21 AM
In a lot of ways I prefer snorkling as well: no need to worry about the maintenance of rental gear, more freedom of movement, less expense.

Even so, there's lots of stuff you simply can't see in 20' of water. And even if you could see them, you might have to wait a bit for them to emerge . . . longer than a lungful's worth.

Tanhalen21
10th November 08, 12:48 PM
How is it you're going directly to "Advanced" if you've no certification at all? Unless things have changed, first you get Open Water c-card, then Advanced, then whatever else you might want to pursue.
Well I'm planning on becoming advanced. The instructor told me I have to complete the first Open Water Certification before I go advanced, so he suggested taking the courses consecutively with dives in between

Kein Haar
10th November 08, 01:13 PM
This pursuit also has more fat-asses with moustaches than law enforcment.

I'll quote myself for truth in a little while.

Ajamil
10th November 08, 02:45 PM
I was certified Jr. open water and took a trip to Nassau - it was one of the more memorable times of my life. Went on a shark dive, reef wall, night dive, and shipwreck exploration (nothing big, just some old boats and one plane they crashed for a Bond movie).

I liked it way more than snorkeling, but that's just me.

Tanhalen21
10th November 08, 03:10 PM
Sounds cool in theory...but I don't get it for recreational purposes. What a pain in the ass the equipment is. I certified the YMCA and then a nitrox course...and that was more than enough.

I'd rather be more selective about the venue and snorkel.

I'm partially doing it because it opens up a few sweet job opportunities, from what I understand.

Tanhalen21
10th November 08, 03:11 PM
YOU WENT ON A SHARK DIVE AND YOU DIDN'T GET EATED?

kick
10th November 08, 10:07 PM
Yeah diving is great fun, you will love it, the learning part is pretty easy.

I certified in the army a long time ago. A lot of what posters above is true, great fun, but can be expensive and a pain in the ass maintaining your gear.

On a side note in relation to making money, my brother in law after leaving the army as a medic now works on dive ships he makes $1,000 a day tax free, because all his work is off the coast of Africa or Russia etc. the divers underwater weld the pipes and he regulates the gas up top.

He usually works a month on a month off, so $30,000 in a month, he said he could work non-stop but can't be bothered and is happy making $180,000 a year.

He said that is nothing the deep sea divers/welders are making $5,000 a day, go down in the bubble and work underwater a month at a time (Abyss anyone?)

Great money, you would never get me down there though.

Tanhalen21
10th November 08, 10:12 PM
They work underwater for a month without coming up? I bet that occupation has a pretty high suicide rate.

Great blue fuck though! $180,000 a year diving! I'm down as all hell! What other training did he have to go through / degrees did he have to get to be able to get that job? What level diver do you have to be?

Steve
11th November 08, 03:00 AM
Look up the death rate, I'm curious.

Tanhalen21
11th November 08, 03:38 AM
The only number I found was from 2002, and the rate was 2 out of 100,000 divers die from diving compared to 22 out of 100,000 drivers.

The Wiki page agrees the death rate for recreational scuba diving is quite low.

Not too shabby, though people who are out of shape / apparently between the ages of 35-45 should get a medical exam before diving and should be super careful about DCS (Decompression Sickness ["the Bends"]).

bob
11th November 08, 03:48 AM
They work underwater for a month without coming up? I bet that occupation has a pretty high suicide rate.

Great blue fuck though! $180,000 a year diving! I'm down as all hell! What other training did he have to go through / degrees did he have to get to be able to get that job? What level diver do you have to be?

I think that kind of training tends only come from the military. I've got friends with similar stories who trained as Navy Clearance Divers in the Australian navy (ie. mine clearance). They then work on oil rigs, pipelines, underwater construction etc. for ridiculous money.

Tanhalen21
11th November 08, 03:50 AM
Man, I'd be so down to train as a navy diver.

bob
11th November 08, 03:53 AM
Another fascinating job opportunity (I actually met this guy once) is to be the guy who scuba dives down into the tanks when something goes wrong at the sewage treatment works. They make good money too for obvious reasons.

Ajamil
11th November 08, 09:07 AM
...you can swim through that shit? ewwwww

And yes, i went on two shark dives, one to feed them (we all sat in a circle while the guide put fish heads in the water) and one by a reef wall where they were just swimming around.

The feeding was fun, they told everyone not to point since that's the motion the guide uses to release fish heads, and they didn't want confused sharks thinking your hand was a halibut.

Also, since sharks can detect electromagnetism to some degree, every time one of the underwater cameras went off, three or four sharks would turn to go investigate.

Tanhalen21
23rd December 08, 01:41 PM
In case you were all wondering, I am now a PADI certified advanced open water diver. I went on some pretty awesome dives over the past week, including the biggest ship ever intentionally sunk which lays at about 130 feet deep and is 510 feet long.

new2bjj
23rd December 08, 02:10 PM
I am too lazy/stupid to get certified, even though every year I go on resort dives when i can. Got seasick last time and blue chunks as soon as i got up from the dive. Next time I'll takes some dramimine or something.

I have to say, the first time I dove in a decent spot (Cancun & Cozumel) it was an almost life changing experience. I highly recommend it, and it is a lot safer than skiing, or well, martial arts.

Tanhalen21
23rd December 08, 03:05 PM
I've never really had a problem with getting seasick, and whenever I take dramamine it tends to knock me right the fuck out even if it's the "less drowsy formula." I'm fine while I'm diving but when I get home I'm passed out for 3 or 4 hours. Never taking that shit again.

WarPhalange
23rd December 08, 03:11 PM
Do you need to know how to swim to get your SCUBA license? Also, I get very frequent asthma attacks. That's okay though, right? I always carry my inhaler with me.

Tanhalen21
23rd December 08, 03:21 PM
Do you need to know how to swim to get your SCUBA license?
Not really. Obviously it's pretty useful in case you are forced to do a surface swim or something but really you just have to know how to move your legs up and down (when you swim while diving all it is is alternating moving your legs up and down [with your legs fairly straight]). In fact, you're not supposed to use your arms when you are swimming underwater because you can accidentally knock the regulator out of a buddy's mouth and you use way more energy that way which = using more air. I had this happen to me once at the end of an exhalation, I had to quickly recover it and use the purge button (because I had no air in my lungs to clear the reg) and suck in. I was so pissed.

The instructor who certified me never asked us to swim in any other way other than fins and I imagine that's the same with most if not all instructors.

I would definitely at least attempt to learn how to swim in a pool before I went scuba diving, but paraplegics dive all the time so I'm sure you will be fine.


Also, I get very frequent asthma attacks. That's okay though, right? I always carry my inhaler with me.
People with asthma dive all the time, but everybody is different so if I were you I'd talk to my doctor because oftentimes each person with asthma has a certain set of conditions they are allowed / not allowed to dive under. But I'm pretty sure there is a very low accident rate with asthmatic divers and of all forms of exercise I would expect diving to be the one that you would be least likely to have an asthma attack from.

WarPhalange
23rd December 08, 05:08 PM
Okay, let me try this: I am paralyzed from the neck down and can only use 15% of my brain because of getting trampled in a sheep stampede. Can I get a SCUBA license?

Tanhalen21
23rd December 08, 05:12 PM
Okay, let me try this: I am paralyzed from the neck down and can only use 15% of my brain because of getting trampled in a sheep stampede. Can I get a SCUBA license?

No

rw4th
30th December 08, 03:20 AM
Okay, let me try this: I am paralyzed from the neck down and can only use 15% of my brain because of getting trampled in a sheep stampede. Can I get a SCUBA license?

I'm sure there's a Caribbean resort somewhere that will be more then happy to cut a few corners and get you certified :biggrin:

nihilist
31st December 08, 01:47 AM
Skydiving is fun but deep sea diving seems a little irresponsible.

billy sol hurok
31st December 08, 08:37 AM
Skydiving is fun but deep sea diving seems a little irresponsible.

I see it the other way around. Jumping out of a functional airplane, without duress, was the dumbest thing I ever did -- and I hope it remains so. Don't get me wrong: it's fun, but that's about all. It feels like you're thumbing Fate in the eye and hoping he doesn't shoot you in the balls, while knowing that you kind of deserve it.

Oh, and nice av ;-)

WarPhalange
31st December 08, 03:46 PM
I have wanted to go skydiving since I was 17, but I just can't justify spending the money on it at this point.