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Aaranar
19th August 08, 07:34 PM
Who will watch Watchmen? Nobody, if 20th Century Fox gets its way.

After a major court victory, the studio has announced a bid to block the release of Warner Bros.' anticipated adaptation of the seminal graphic novel by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

Fox originally tried to develop the project more than a decade ago, but didn't manage to get the film off the drawing board. The studio claims Warners never properly acquired the rights to Watchmen, and, in a major twist, instead of seeking a share of the would-be blockbuster's box-office gross, Fox is seeking to kill the flick entirely before it unspools in theaters March 6.

Cue the agonized cries of fanboys everywhere.

A federal judge in Los Angeles agreed with Fox lawyers that there's enough evidence to keep the lawsuit going forward—and keep the film's release in limbo.

Directed by 300 helmer Zack Snyder, Watchmen stars Patrick Wilson, Carla Gugino, Billy Crudup and Jackie Earle Haley as a band of former superheroes who find themselves reclassified as criminal vigilantes in an alternate universe circa 1985. As an unknown assassin begins to hunt them down, the heroes try to unravel a conspiracy and thwart a nuclear war.

The film's trailer wowed Comic-Con attendees last month, stirring big buzz for a film that many thought would never get made.

Per its complaint, Fox traces its distribution rights through a series of complex legal agreements that began in 1991, when the studio teamed up with veteran producer Larry Gordon to develop the DC Comics graphic novel.

The project stalled and Gordon went packing, leaving Fox, not Gordon, in control of the property, per the suit.

But Gordon resurfaced in 2006 and inked a deal with Warners to try to relaunch Watchmen.

In siding with Fox, U.S. District Court Judge Gary Allen Fees said Warners' legal camp failed to show that Gordon still had a stake in the project.

"Warner Bros.' production and anticipated release of Watchmen motion picture violates 20th Century Fox's long-standing motion picture rights in the Watchmen property," Fox says in a statement.

"We will be asking the court to enforce Fox's copyright interests in The Watchmen and enjoin the release of the Warner Bros. film and any related Watchmen media that violate our copyright interests in that property."

It's not clear exactly why Fox is asking for an injunction to block Watchmen from coming out, especially since the film's already in the can, although it could simply be a ploy to gain a large portion of ticket sales. There's also no indication why Fox waited so long to bring its case.

Warners, meanwhile, tried to spin the ruling as favorably as possible.

"It is our company's policy not to comment on pending litigation, and thus will not comment on the specifics of this case," the studio's statement reads. "That said, the court's ruling simply means that the parties will engage in discovery and proceed with the litigation.

"We respectfully disagree with Fox's position and do not believe they have any rights in and to this project."

Fees has asked the studios to expedite the pretrial wrangling. After all, the film's release is apporaching and the Doomsday Clock is ticking.


Source : http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b24472_doomsday_watchmen.html

EuropIan
19th August 08, 07:42 PM
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/lawrence79/nooooo.jpg

Kevin Smith has seen the movie and has made me too hyped for this shit to happen.

link (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/15/kevin-smith-has-seen-watchmen-its-fking-astounding/)


“I saw Watchmen. It’s fucking astounding. The Non-Disclosure Agreement I signed prevents me from saying much, but I can spout the following with complete joygasmic enthusiasm: Snyder and Co. have pulled it off. Remember that feeling of watching Sin City on the big screen and being blown away by what a faithful translation of the source material it was, in terms of both content and visuals? Triple that, and you’ll come close to watching Watchmen. Even Alan Moore might be surprised at how close the movie is to the book. March can’t come soon enough.”

SFGOON
19th August 08, 08:09 PM
Download it over bittorrent if this thing goes through.

God I fucking hate copyright laws.

Zendetta
19th August 08, 08:58 PM
JIHAD.

Its the only reasonable choice.

avenger
19th August 08, 09:03 PM
If I can't watch watchmen, I'm going to go fucking crazy. Especially after I read the graphic novel. Stupid 20th Century Fox.

Arhetton
19th August 08, 09:50 PM
oh it will definately be leaked if they get blocked by the courts, it will add to WB's +rep

EuropIan
19th August 08, 10:03 PM
I bet Fox realized it was money (ie. good) and wanted in on that.

If this was another Ishtar 20th cen. Fox would not have bothered.

Or this is a clever marketing scheme.

Neildo
19th August 08, 10:12 PM
Download it over bittorrent if this thing goes through.

God I fucking hate copyright laws.

word.

i got a copy of the graphic novel right here. just read through it again since i saw the trailer at dark knight. if fox wins, i say we nuke em.

boondock lee
20th August 08, 10:59 PM
The internet strikes back!!!!!!!!!!!
Fans Threaten Fox Over Watchmen Lawsuit

By John Scott Lewinski http://blog.wired.com/images/icon_email.gif ([email protected])August 20, 2008 | 7:50:52 PMCategories: Comics (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/comics/index.html), Copyright (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/copyright/index.html), Current Affairs (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/current_affairs/index.html), Movies (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/movies/index.html)


http://blog.wired.com/underwire/images/2008/08/20/hr_watchmen_6.jpg (http://blog.wired.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/20/hr_watchmen_6.jpg)
Rorschach and his fellow Watchmen are looking to their fans and saying, "Save us." And, the fans are looking down and answering, "Yes."
Watchmen fans were already organizing (http://news.yahoo.com/s/newsarama/20080820/en_newsarama/watchmenfansorganizetodemandepicrunningtime) to save the three-hour cut (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/watchmen-helmer.html#previouspost) of Zack Snyder's movie when the current Fox versus Warner Bros. war broke out (http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/08/fox-lawsuit-wat.html).
Now that some reports say Fox would rather kill Watchmen (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117990722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1) than share the profit it generates, comic book and movie fans are threatening a revolt against any Fox genre movies should the studio continue to flirt with its weapon of Watchmen destruction.
Fox shows no signs of backing down (http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=35209), insisting that it's just business. But, that's what Michael Corleone would say before he killed your family. Fox even went so far as to provide paperwork (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/20/fox-contacted-warner-bros-before-watchmen-went-into-production/) regarding its claims on Watchmen.
But paperwork wouldn't save Babylon A.D., Max Payne or The Day the Earth Stood Still if genre fans stayed away in droves to protest Fox's Watchmen shenanigans. That's the threat on the table.
Stay tuned to see who, if anyone, blinks.
Image courtesy Warner Bros.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/08/fans-organize-t.html

Steve
21st August 08, 12:14 AM
I just finished reading Watchmen for the first time, it's perfect for a movie translation, they better not stop it.

jubei33
21st August 08, 01:14 AM
yeah right, the fanboys are just going to not watch the other movies. what a weak idle threat. black faxes are more effective

boondock lee
21st August 08, 01:27 AM
yeah right, the fanboys are just going to not watch the other movies. what a weak idle threat. black faxes are more effective

I find your lack of faith disturbing. Never underestimate the power of fanboys. NEVER.

WarPhalange
21st August 08, 01:34 AM
They'd just wait a day or two and mass torrent it instead of going to the theater.

Equipoise
21st August 08, 02:00 AM
It's not so much the boycotting of Fox Films that's going to do anything, it's the fact that Fox would have their systems hacked ad nauseum. These same individuals would torrent all of the shows, script ideas, actual scripts, and movies at such a rate that the MPAA wouldn't have a ghost of a chance to stop it. It's going to be internet guerilla warfare at its finest.

WarPhalange
21st August 08, 02:04 AM
Quick question, are Fox News and 20th Century Fox related at all, or did they split off some time ago or something?

bob
21st August 08, 05:26 AM
It's all News Corporation aka Murdoch aka Palpatine.

Shawarma
21st August 08, 08:35 AM
Never saw what was so fantastic about Watchmen. Had one good character, and that was Rorschach.

EvilSteve
21st August 08, 09:09 AM
Actually what I liked about Watchmen was that all the characters were so thoroughly UNlikable. To me, it gave it a grittiness you don't see in most comics.

That said, this Fox thing just seems like corporate sabotage. They're not trying to get anything for themselves, they're just knocking a competitor down a peg. Why not sue for a portion of the profits instead? Seems far more sensible.

Hitman
21st August 08, 07:02 PM
That said, this Fox thing just seems like corporate sabotage. They're not trying to get anything for themselves, they're just knocking a competitor down a peg. Why not sue for a portion of the profits instead? Seems far more sensible.

That's what I don't get. The primary goal of any corporation is to generate value for shareholders. Spending an assload of money on a lawsuit that yields nothing in terms of capital makes no fucking sense. If I had a significant amount of stock in Newscorp, I'd be pissed.

Zendetta
21st August 08, 07:59 PM
Never saw what was so fantastic about Watchmen. Had one good character, and that was Rorschach.

LOL. Shawarma's War on Everything Cool continues.

Was it Sin City or Grindhouse that you predicted would suck donkey balls?

Sun Wukong
21st August 08, 08:56 PM
God damn it. I hate Fox so much, i really, really do.

Shawarma
22nd August 08, 06:32 AM
LOL. Shawarma's War on Everything Cool continues.

Was it Sin City or Grindhouse that you predicted would suck donkey balls?
Quiet, young whippersnapper! You and your new-fangled action movies and cordless telephones and genital piercings and whatnot.

Grindhouse I never watched, Sin City I thought was cool. It had a bunch of guys getting shot in the balls or having them ripped off by hand. You can measure the badassity of a movie by the number of manual genital mutilations.

Oh, and 300 sucked Greek fag cock.

kungfujew
22nd August 08, 12:12 PM
I'm gonna have to agree with Shaw-san on this one. 300 was gayer than Richard Simmons in a vat of rainbow sherbert.

EvilSteve
22nd August 08, 12:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/DWinter/300Gay.jpg

OZZ
22nd August 08, 01:32 PM
Anyone who thinks 300 was gay MUST be gay themselves.

Shawarma
22nd August 08, 01:52 PM
Well, stuff a ball gag in my mouth and rape my ass then, because that was some gay-ass shit. Apparently, ancient warfare was won by two strategies:

1) Having very photogenic abs

and

2) Yelling a lot.

That's what I got out of that POS movie, no matter how much DaYoung thought it ruled.

RickTheCritic
22nd August 08, 04:16 PM
OMFG!!!! MOTHAA .........................

(deep breath) Alright Fox is cant stop messing up. They have released back to back flops and now are trying to block a movie because of thier hatred and self loathing. Words cannot describe how much I wanted to see this movie. Im not rly into comic books but atfer reading the wikipedia of ever main character in the book I am hooked. The fact that the protagonists are not likable will make me like this more because I favor Villains over superheroes

Zendetta
22nd August 08, 04:20 PM
FOX doesn't want America asking the question "Who Watches the Watchmen?".

THinkaboutit.

bob
22nd August 08, 06:55 PM
Rupert Murdoch is Adrian Veidt?

avenger
22nd August 08, 07:06 PM
2) Yelling a lot.

That's what I got out of that POS movie, no matter how much DaYoung thought it ruled.

It's like what Leoinidas said in United 300

"I'm not yelling, I'm just passionate"

WarPhalange
23rd August 08, 12:02 PM
That review made my day. Thank you.

Sirc
26th August 08, 03:21 PM
4chan's stirring.

Sirc
26th August 08, 03:51 PM
Shawarma, are you like 14 years old or something?

Seriously every post you make reminds me of a 14 year old elitist dick who doesn't like anything just for the sake of being "different." It must feel really awesome sitting up there in your tower, arms crossed, brows furrowed with a shit eating grin on your face that shows your satisfaction. Much like the goths of lore, your uniqueness must stand out far beyond that of anyone elses. EVERYONE MUST KNOW HOW MUCH OF A PESSIMIST YOU ARE. I mean your trite dry "personality" reminds me of those deep nihilist girls from high school who would, at death scenes in movies, produce a contrived laugh, because she's just so dark.

Basically, what I'm saying is, you're a bitch.

Shawarma
26th August 08, 05:43 PM
And every post you make is an attempt to get random faggots on the internet to think you're cool in a rather saddening way. It's not working. You are the 3rd most useless poster on the site. (Congratulations, you moved down from number 2. Angry Spastic is now more worthless than you.)

bob
26th August 08, 08:28 PM
Give Shawarma a break. He grew up amongst tolerant social democracy and consensus politics. Slagging off comic books is his release.

WarPhalange
26th August 08, 08:34 PM
Seriously every post you make reminds me of a 14 year old elitist dick who doesn't like anything just for the sake of being "different."

That's ridiculous. Shawarma sounds nothing like MJS.

Sirc
27th August 08, 01:39 AM
And every post you make is an attempt to get random faggots on the internet to think you're cool in a rather saddening way. It's not working. You are the 3rd most useless poster on the site. (Congratulations, you moved down from number 2. Angry Spastic is now more worthless than you.)

You know, I understand that shutting the hell up because you're angry schtick that nobody gives a fuck about is really a heavy burden, but come on Turing, you can do better than that. I used to pretend that I hated everything and didn't like things just to "go against the grain" so I could achieve, "unique" status, but then I decided that I didn't want a job mixing mocho choca lattes.

You know what the best thing about being me is, besides the fact that I am more successful, date hotter women, have a home that isn't on wheels and personal worth with numbers larger than you can count is? Doesn't matter, get me a coffee.

But hey, thanks for the memo there Shawarma. You see, after having posted something like 8,000+ posts, gaining notoriety, love, fame and even a moderator position, every now and then, I like to step down from my throne and pick a fight with some loser like you, to keep my reputation as someone approachable to see if I could get away with it and still keep my position, despite the fact that thousands of people watch me do it all the time and the admins keep a close eye on everything that I do.

What I didn't count on was that an astute poster such as yourself would categorize me as the 3rd most useless poster on the site.

With skills like that, why are you writing barely intelligible replies to strangers on the internet when you could be doing some proctor work for CNN.com? You could go around to popular forums and categorize all of the users in a numerical ranking.

I can see it now: "Judge Dipshit: Smug grin for hire." Keep up the great work!

AAAhmed46
28th August 08, 01:53 PM
Don't be so sarcastro.

EvilSteve
28th August 08, 02:01 PM
So I brought this up with a friend of mine who's an entertainment lawyer to try to figure out WHY Fox would block the release rather than sue for a cut. He said that the lawyers for both firms were probably in negotiations all through production and failed to reach a settlment so Fox is suing for an injunction to block the release. The thing with injunctions is, they're negotiable instruments so Fox can then sell the injunction to Warner Bros for whatever price they want. It's basically an end-run around failed negotiations.

Tanhalen21
29th August 08, 06:59 PM
I started reading Watchmen and I'm a bit past the halfway mark and I must say...

If this movie doesn't come through I'm going to be THOROUGHLY pissed.

Sun Wukong
29th August 08, 07:08 PM
yeah dude, i know.

Rorshach, FTW.

Zendetta
29th August 08, 07:30 PM
you mean you're gonna throw fry grease in Rupert Murdoch's face, right?

boondock lee
29th August 08, 07:39 PM
Show a little love for the Comedian.
http://media.movieweb.com/img/h/D/D/PHzRJFzFH1FhDD_m.jpg

more rorschach love.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/watchmen-small.jpg

Neildo
29th August 08, 08:16 PM
Show a little love for the Comedian.
http://media.movieweb.com/img/h/D/D/PHzRJFzFH1FhDD_m.jpg

more rorschach love.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/watchmen-small.jpg



omfg i must see this movie

mrblackmagic
29th August 08, 09:00 PM
I'm still on the ropes about this one. Kevin Smith's seal of approval went really far with me. To those who don't understand why, I suggest you rent A Night with Kevin Smith. He's as much as pissed off comic book fan as the rest of us. On the other hand, I read Wizard mag interview with Snyder. He said they "modernized" the script so it's about the war on terror, corporations, saying: "fuck the man" (he really said that), and other silly shit.

Tanhalen21
29th August 08, 09:05 PM
When I saw the previews, I thought that the comedian was being played by Robert downey Jr. Now THAT would have been balls out.

mrblackmagic
30th August 08, 09:33 AM
I thought it was Javier Bardem. That didn't help my dilemma.

boondock lee
1st September 08, 05:51 PM
I'm still on the ropes about this one. Kevin Smith's seal of approval went really far with me. To those who don't understand why, I suggest you rent A Night with Kevin Smith. He's as much as pissed off comic book fan as the rest of us. On the other hand, I read Wizard mag interview with Snyder. He said they "modernized" the script so it's about the war on terror, corporations, saying: "fuck the man" (he really said that), and other silly shit.
Kevin Smith is the man. After all, it was his seal of approval on the Dark knight that sold me.

Do you have a link to that particular interview? I read that Snyder was going to keep the 1985 setting and cold war tensions rather then "updating" with terrorist groups.

Shawarma
1st September 08, 07:08 PM
Thank God. This entire new "Oh no, the entire free world is threatened with destruction by.....some fucking A-rab goatherders living in caves in Assfuckistan!" just doesn't make me sit up and take notice like when the threat came from the USSR.

They could make Red China (TM) the enemy instead, though. I'd buy that.

boondock lee
1st September 08, 07:13 PM
Thank God. This entire new "Oh no, the entire free world is threatened with destruction by.....some fucking A-rab goatherders living in caves in Assfuckistan!" just doesn't make me sit up and take notice like when the threat came from the USSR.

They could make Red China (TM) the enemy instead, though. I'd buy that. Nah, The chinese sucked back in the 80's. Plus its the cold war. USA VS USSR.

I did read that the guy who directed the bourne identity wanted to make it about the so called War on Terror.

SFGOON
4th September 08, 12:27 AM
Show a little love for the Comedian.
http://media.movieweb.com/img/h/D/D/PHzRJFzFH1FhDD_m.jpg




Total ripoff of the joker. And Robin.

Neildo
4th September 08, 01:11 AM
Just the mask. read the comic.

CoffeeFan
4th September 08, 01:42 AM
Total ripoff of the joker. And Robin.

Actually that's pretty much what he looks like in the comics.

Sun Wukong
4th September 08, 05:42 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Watchmencharacters.jpg


The watchmen, top right corner is the Comedian. I always thought he looked like like J. Jonah Jameson, but that's just me I guess.

Sun Wukong
4th September 08, 05:43 AM
The watchmen were pretty much the original damaged goods super heroes. All of them were pretty fucked in the head and you can kind of tell just by looking at them. It looks like a family halloween photo album of the worlds most disfunctional family.

WarPhalange
4th September 08, 01:00 PM
Apparently only that fucking dot-head has superpowers. Is that why most everybody else in that picture looks sad?

EvilSteve
4th September 08, 01:18 PM
Actually Dr. Manhattan might be the most fucked up of all of them. IIRC he doesn't even experience time in a linear fashion, and goes through a nasty breakup with his girlfriend, after which he learns he gave her cancer.

WarPhalange
4th September 08, 01:22 PM
I think that's the biggest piece of bullshit ever. "Hey, I'm a God, I can't cope with my powers, I don't have a real body and I see time completely differently than you. Want to go out with me?"

And of course it's a fellow hero, not some chick at a bar or something.

EvilSteve
4th September 08, 01:24 PM
Actually they started dating when he was a physicist at Oak Ridge or wherever. So let that be a lesson to you Loops: Don't get involved with chicks you work with, because you might get stuck in a particle accelerator and turned into an immortal superhuman.

WarPhalange
4th September 08, 01:28 PM
Wait, so why did she become a hero? Physicists don't usually have what it takes to kick ass, especially with the time involved with work.

Tanhalen21
4th September 08, 01:35 PM
Actually Dr. Manhattan might be the most fucked up of all of them.

Seconded.

EvilSteve
4th September 08, 02:29 PM
Wait, so why did she become a hero? Physicists don't usually have what it takes to kick ass, especially with the time involved with work.

Yeah, but she's a chick so she just has to be hawt to be a superhero.

WarPhalange
4th September 08, 02:30 PM
That's true. We don't want no ugos.

avenger
4th September 08, 03:46 PM
I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet, but the trial date been set.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/906/906942p1.html
http://movies.ign.com/articles/907/907489p1.html

Zendetta
4th September 08, 05:00 PM
Just got done reading the graphic novel. Fucking amazing.

Tanhalen21
4th September 08, 05:13 PM
She's a 20th century fox oh yeah

Steve
4th September 08, 05:21 PM
Wait, so why did she become a hero? Physicists don't usually have what it takes to kick ass, especially with the time involved with work.

No, no, no. She never becomes a superhero. Doc leaves her for the 16 year old daughter (and superhero in training) of one of the original Minute Men (the Silk Spectre).

Doritosaurus Chex
4th September 08, 11:35 PM
Actually Dr. Manhattan might be the most fucked up of all of them. IIRC he doesn't even experience time in a linear fashion, and goes through a nasty breakup with his girlfriend, after which he learns he gave her cancer.

He never gave his first girlfriend cancer, it was Ozymandias who gave her cancer in order to take Dr. Manhattan out of the equation. Same thing happened to his sidekick.

boondock lee
4th September 08, 11:42 PM
Total ripoff of the joker. And Robin.

I always thought of the comedian as a Joker/Captain America combo.

And yes, Ozy was the guy who gave cancer to the people. Thank you for ruining that. AHH!

And it wasn't a particle accelerator, it was an intrinsic field remover.

Sun Wukong
5th September 08, 12:06 AM
this thread needs SPOILER tags.

Sun Wukong
5th September 08, 12:11 AM
Rorshach is going to seriously fuck with "super-hero" genre stereotype. something they could have done with any of the Punisher movies, but failed miserably to do so in favor of high box office receipts. I'm still not convinced he'll be played right, but you never know.

rorshach is not meant to be liked, looked up to or appreciated as anything other than a psychotic vigilante murderer with an overdeveloped sense of right and wrong.

Steve
5th September 08, 12:11 AM
this thread needs SPOILER tags.

Done.

Steve
5th September 08, 12:14 AM
rorshach is not meant to be liked, looked up to or appreciated as anything other than a psychotic vigilante murderer with an overdeveloped sense of right and wrong.

Have to admit that it is HEAVY on the "right," though.

Steve
5th September 08, 12:20 AM
Alan Moore reads for Rorschach:

1FS60iN0g2I

Steve
5th September 08, 01:34 AM
qKebCtCTbCA

boondock lee
11th September 08, 11:26 PM
Alan Moore Kicks ass. I just wished that he would be a little more optimistic about the film :(. Can't really blame him for not supporting the film though.

Anyway, here's a vid on the making of watchmen.
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/34260/watchmen/videos/watchmen_dp_feat_090508.html

mrblackmagic
12th September 08, 07:38 AM
Kevin Smith is the man. After all, it was his seal of approval on the Dark knight that sold me.

Do you have a link to that particular interview? I read that Snyder was going to keep the 1985 setting and cold war tensions rather then "updating" with terrorist groups.

It's not a terrorism. It's about uber-corporatism and globalization.


WIZARD: Originally, you didn't want to do "Watchmen," did you?
ZACK SNYDER: For me it was almost too much. I was too aware of it, and I was too scared of the baggage that it had.

What turned you around on it?
SNYDER: I knew that someone would do it. They were like, "We're going to make Watchmen into a movie." I remember going, "Well, let me take a meeting and find out what the deal is." I remember sitting in the meeting and having them go, "Okay, we're going to update the movie. It's going to be about the war on terror. It's going to be modern and super-cool." Then I went, "Okay, I'll do it."

You wanted to save it?
SNYDER: I don't want to say that, because who knows? Someone could've gotten it and done a great job with it. I felt like it was a thing they didn't know they had. They thought it was a movie.

I think you lost me…
SNYDER: It's not a movie. It's something else. Sure, it's a story. A guy gets murdered and we have to find out who killed him and why. But it's also so much more. Comic books and comic book heroes used to be counterculture. People who read comic books were on the fringe, and then Hollywood sort of hijacked the superhero and now…superheroes are the man. They're corporate America. That's just the way it is. Spider-Man is a f---ing Happy Meal. That's all there is to it, and he generates tons of revenue. It's the same with Batman. I don't care how dark he is. He's still part of the machine.

And "Watchmen?"
SNYDER: "Watchmen" says, "F--- the man." That's what it is and that's what it does. In every way it does that. It's counter-intuitive to a superhero movie in every way. There's no way that you have any idea where this movie is going. If you don't know the book, you're going to be like, "What the f---? What is this? Why?" I said, "If I can do a two-hour advertisement for the book, then I've succeeded." I'm not trying to replace the book. I couldn't. If I wanted to do that it would be a mistake. But I think if I can get people going, "Yeah, I have to check that out because this movie was awesome. I want to see what everyone is talking about." So that's how I feel about it and that's really how I came to terms with the why of doing it. I thought, "If I can get at the tone of Watchmen, at the tone of what makes it unique and along the way try and get as much detail as I can," but I think more than the specifics of the story it's that thing. It's that "F--- the man" attitude. If you can make that real in the movie, then you've done it.

Now, unfortunately, you haven't been able to speak to writer Alan Moore about the adaptation, right?
SNYDER: I've not spoken with Alan. I've spoken with [Watchmen co-creator] Dave [Gibbons] a lot. Dave is doing awesome. From the beginning, it was Alan's desire, even from before I was involved, he said, "Look, just leave me out of it. That's all I ask. Don't make any assumptions about what I think and I'll be quite happy." That's what we've tried to do. I've just said that I was going to do the best job that I can with this graphic novel and I'm going to try and respect Alan's wishes and that's it.

Do you think audiences are tired of comic book films?
SNYDER: I think that audiences can see the irony. The great thing about "Watchmen" is that it never makes fun of the genre.

The audience knows the pop culture aspect of it…
SNYDER: I guess my point is that, you asked me why the movie hasn't worked in the past, and I think that's part of the reason why it's been so difficult. This movie without the irony or the irreverence…because you can imagine where [Nite-Owl] can't have a scene where he can't get it up, that's got to be out of the movie, right? The Comedian can't rape anyone. That's not cool as a superhero. How are we supposed to feel about him? You can't just kill a pregnant woman, but those are the things that he has to do. He has to do those things. If he doesn't do those things, he's just a superhero. He's like The Punisher.

So, you think pop culture has learned the comic vocabulary?
SNYDER: Yeah, because now they know rules. You can break them now, where before they didn't know the rules because there were no rules.


http://www.wizarduniverse.com/080808snyder.html

OZZ
12th September 08, 02:16 PM
Rorschach rocks.

Aphid Jones
12th September 08, 02:31 PM
Really good answers to those interview questions. I'm glad it sounds like Snyder is going to leave all the potentially "offensive" parts in.