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Steve
28th March 08, 10:07 PM
So here is the story about the next funeral to be picketed by Westboro:

Police: Iowa City mom, kids were beaten to death

IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) -- Autopsies show that five members of an Iowa City family found dead in their home were beaten to death.


http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/CRIME/03/26/iowa.city.shooting.ap/art.sueppels.ho.ap.jpgThe results show that Sheryl Sueppel and her four children died from blunt force trauma to their upper torsos and heads.

Police believe former bank executive Steven Sueppel killed his wife and children sometime Sunday night or Monday. He had been charged with embezzlement, and his body was found in the wreckage of a car crash Monday morning.

Investigators say they believe he killed his wife, then tried to kill himself and the children by asphyxiating them with carbon monoxide in the garage.

When that failed, he killed the children one by one in the house, police said.

The family van was found wrecked and ablaze on Interstate 80 about nine miles away, and police said they used dental records to identify the burned body inside as Sueppel's. Video Watch police search the burned van

After the children died, Sueppel tried to drown himself in the Iowa River without success. He then made a 911 call directing officers to his home and a few minutes later crashed into a freeway abutment.

Sueppel left a long note in the family's kitchen addressed to no one in particular. He also left voice mail messages at the family's home, at the bank where he once worked and at the law office of his father and brother.

One of the messages indicated Sueppel believed his family was in heaven, Steffen said.

"He did indicate in his note that ever since his problems came to light that he was having trouble dealing with this issue, but again no specific incident or cause was identified as to why it happened now," Steffen said. "He apologized ... numerous times."

Police identified the children as Ethan, 10; Seth, 8; Mira, 5; and Eleanor, 3.

Their bodies were found throughout the home. Two were in upstairs bedrooms, one in a basement bedroom and another in a basement toy room. Sheryl Sueppel's body was found in the master bedroom.

Two baseball bats that might have been used in the killings were being examined, Lt. Jim Steffen said Tuessday.

"Steven is probably the only one who knew why he did what he did, and I don't know that we're ever going to be able to determine the real reason why this happened," Steffen said.

The 911 call made early Monday alerting police to the family's home at the edge of Iowa City was made from Sueppel's cell phone, police said.

About six minutes after Sueppel's call, more 911 calls poured in to dispatchers, reporting that a minivan had crashed into a concrete abutment in the median of Interstate 80 east of town.

One caller sobbed as she described seeing the burning minivan, which had crashed head-on into the abutment.

"Oh, my God, the car's on fire," the woman sobs. "I was going to stop and help but the car's on fire."

Court records show that Steven Sueppel, 42, was indicted last month on charges of stealing about $560,000 from Hills Bank and Trust in Johnson County, where he was vice president and controller.
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Sueppel pleaded not guilty to embezzlement and money laundering in U.S. District Court and was released on a $250,000 personal bond. The government was also seeking the forfeiture of the money he was accused of stealing.

His trial was scheduled for April 21.

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Link. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/26/iowa.city.shooting.ap/index.html?iref=newssearch)

Now the douchebaggery (piled on top of the douchbaggery of the husband freaking the fuck out). From Westboro's "schedule" (http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html):


St. Mary's Catholic Church 302 E. Jefferson St. This is for the funeral of the Sueppel family. God sent the murderer, the father, the husband, the savior of that marital body, to kill his wife and children and then himself. We have an explanation for you arrogant, deceitful liars: aMERICA IS DOOMED! It is not a blessing from God to cut off that family! The LORD sent this evil man so that he might execute vengeance upon you, and to warn you: GOD IS NOT MOCKED! IF YOU DISOBEY, YOU WILL BE CUT OFF! THERE IS NO 3RD OPTION HERE, PEOPLE! EITHER YOU REPENT OR YOU PERISH! If you want to stop the fathers from killing their children, the sons from killing their families, and the wives from killing their babies, then you would do well to HEAR OUR MESSAGE! You have turned this country over to the fags and to the fag-enablers. In short, you have given yourselves wholly over to whoredoms, physical and spiritual! You have persecuted GOD'S SERVANTS! Check this out: Psalm 105:14 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; 15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 2nd Chronicles 36:15 And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place: 16 But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy. Of course, you proud rebels would not need us to tell you these scriptures and expound them for you if you would just OBEY and READ THE WORDS YOURSELVES! You have a duty as much as we do to know these scriptures! Forgot John 3:16 and OBEY or you will join the Sueppel family in Hell shortly now! america is Doomed! Amen.

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I don't know quite what to say...

I know! Let us pray that the Westboro church burns in hell. Oh, and that they learn to use paragraphs.

Yiktin Voxbane
28th March 08, 10:32 PM
These asshats never cease to amaze me, makes me happy to live where I do .

boondock lee
29th March 08, 12:44 AM
OH MY FUCKING GOD..........................How could they twist something so sad? DAMN THESE FUCKERS! GOD DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL

WarPhalange
29th March 08, 01:22 AM
I understand killing a person in a fit of rage. But 4 people one after another? That takes a sick and broken mind.

Sun Wukong
29th March 08, 01:52 AM
especially if done with your own hand. shooting someone is one thing, it takes no effort and can be done from across the room. something like this requires a twisted mind. Beating a man to death is one thing, but women and children? There's no punishment too severe for such a person.

socratic
29th March 08, 01:55 AM
Murder-suicide is the greatest crime of all. At least with murder, you have someone left to prosecute.

That said, there's no such thing as a 'good' crime.

WarPhalange
29th March 08, 01:14 PM
What about pirating porn?

boondock lee
29th March 08, 03:48 PM
The church is going to picket the funeral of the family. THE MURDEREd FAMILY!

GuiltySpark
29th March 08, 05:08 PM
It's going to be funny when one of those fucking westborrow freaks die and half the state shows up to cheer at their funeral.

socratic
29th March 08, 05:10 PM
What about pirating porn?

I don't consider that criminal, I consider it bow-chikka-bow-bow.

Imagine for a moment we live in Bizarro World, and Westboro is actually interested in dialogue:

Do you agree that God is good? y/n
Do you agree God is all powerful? y/n
You suggest God is capable of controlling people's actions, such as 'sending' killers after innocents, etc.
Thus, free will does exist, because it is impossible for an all powerful being to not have absolute control, and since God has already exhibited control over people's lives, then it is logical that he is capable of and indeed does control all lives absolutely. Predertimism negates free will.
Therefore the actions of any human, or humanity in general, have no moral value and are completely unimportant in comparison to each other and in general, as they are all preordained by God.
Therefore Fag Enabling is just as good as Fag Hating.
In all honesty, if Fag Enabling draws the obvious attention of God, then Fag Enabling is good, as God is good and anything that increases assosciation with a good God is good.

Prederministic QED.

SuperGuido
29th March 08, 06:12 PM
These guys are Christian LARPERS.

Just like attention whore "Too Deadly" martial arts morons, these guys are in for a wake up call.

"Man, I never saw that car change lanes! It happened so fast! It's cool, though, cuz I'm in heaven now. Sweet! Wait, will someone turn on the AC?"

Regardless of your religious beliefs (or lack thereof), you must admit that sending these asshats to their own religion's hell reeks of sweet, sweet irony.

lant3rn
30th March 08, 04:02 PM
lol at forget john 3:16, are they saying to forget jesus? Or maybe rev Felps (sp?) thinks he is the second coming? I think they were sent by god to test the conviction of americans on the first amendment.

Harpy
30th March 08, 05:11 PM
That story was so horrifying and tragic. Those poor children.

Westboro will get what's coming to them.

Cullion
30th March 08, 05:18 PM
I am amazed that something like this church could even exist. I know I should be. I know there's precedent for it. But still, I'm amazed. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I now understand why educated liberals in the US often come across as vehemently anti-religion.

Sun Wukong
30th March 08, 05:44 PM
The church is going to picket the funeral of the family. THE MURDEREd FAMILY!

I was having this discussion last night with a friend; it really is only a matter of time before somebody takes it to task to do WBC grievous bodily harm. You can't operate like this without eventually drawing the attention of a seriously disturbed person.

boondock lee
30th March 08, 05:44 PM
I posted this on the other westboro thread but damn it, we need vids of westboro getting owned!!!!!

S8cN2pB3MCE

Cullion
30th March 08, 05:57 PM
I was having this discussion last night with a friend; it really is only a matter of time before somebody takes it to task to do WBC grievous bodily harm. You can't operate like this without eventually drawing the attention of a seriously disturbed person.

It wouldn't have to be somebody with any particular record of mental illness. Messing with grieving people insulting their dead kids etc.. any otherwise normal person could snap.

Sun Wukong
30th March 08, 06:22 PM
It wouldn't have to be somebody with any particular record of mental illness. Messing with grieving people insulting their dead kids etc.. any otherwise normal person could snap.
Well, that's what I'm saying. its only a matter of time before they escalate things to an extreme degree. dare the wind, etc.

with the brand of hatred they propagate its only rational to assume they'll eventually become involved in an extremely violent act either by breeding a lunatic or by natural progression of pathologically hateful behavior.

Islamic extremists spew a similar brand of hatred and generate a seemingly ever expanding dominoe effect of mutually destructive violence. WBC seems intent on being the most hated group of people in the US. Just when you think they can't be more dispicable, they do something even more disgusting.

Not only are they encouraging their members to find newer ways to do as much personal harm to already tormented people, but they are openly antagonizing damn near every normal person's sense of what is right and what is wrong.

They are practically playing the mass homocide bingo; randomly calling out numbers until they have just the right set of circumstances and players involved for a mass slaughter.

Steve
30th March 08, 08:30 PM
You can't operate like this without eventually drawing the attention of a seriously disturbed person.

The flip side being that doing things like picketing and whatnot increases the size of their congregation.

ironlurker
30th March 08, 10:35 PM
Collective punishment? Does God know he's in violation of the Geneva Convention?

Yiktin Voxbane
31st March 08, 01:45 AM
I posted this on the other westboro thread but damn it, we need vids of westboro getting owned!!!!!

S8cN2pB3MCE


God Loves The chasers war on everything (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/chaser/war/default.htm) , whacky bunch of guys .

socratic
31st March 08, 02:04 AM
It wouldn't have to be somebody with any particular record of mental illness. Messing with grieving people insulting their dead kids etc.. any otherwise normal person could snap.

I don't think one really has to travel too far from their normal mental state to inflict violence on those so brazenly and horribly antagonizing them. I think many would at least subconciously consider it an act of self defence, or an attempt to defend your deceased loved ones.

I said it in the Scientology thread, I'll say in this one. We need some kind of MMA army, or maybe just an MMA battalion or something. Or it needn't even be MMA, just some kind of asswhupping squad. Seriously, because the WBC is in desperate need for some flying armbars.

Steve
31st March 08, 02:20 AM
I said it in the Scientology thread, I'll say in this one. We need some kind of MMA army, or maybe just an MMA battalion or something. Or it needn't even be MMA, just some kind of asswhupping squad. Seriously, because the WBC is in desperate need for some flying armbars.

I think the term you're looking for is MMA Militia.

socratic
31st March 08, 02:34 AM
I think the term you're looking for is MMA Militia.

That's the one.

lant3rn
31st March 08, 03:15 PM
Well, that's what I'm saying. its only a matter of time before they escalate things to an extreme degree. dare the wind, etc.

with the brand of hatred they propagate its only rational to assume they'll eventually become involved in an extremely violent act either by breeding a lunatic or by natural progression of pathologically hateful behavior.

Islamic extremists spew a similar brand of hatred and generate a seemingly ever expanding dominoe effect of mutually destructive violence. WBC seems intent on being the most hated group of people in the US. Just when you think they can't be more dispicable, they do something even more disgusting.

Not only are they encouraging their members to find newer ways to do as much personal harm to already tormented people, but they are openly antagonizing damn near every normal person's sense of what is right and what is wrong.

They are practically playing the mass homocide bingo; randomly calling out numbers until they have just the right set of circumstances and players involved for a mass slaughter.

So your saying their Sadists?

Father Dagon
12th April 08, 06:00 PM
It's going to be funny when one of those fucking westborrow freaks die and half the state shows up to cheer at their funeral.Dude, why hasn't anyone thought of that before? Everybody: Let's make the funeral of Fred Phelps something that people will tell stories about for centuries!

krazy kaju
12th April 08, 06:11 PM
Seriously though, the Westboro Baptist Church is going to get screwed over. Somebody is gonna get really pissed off at them, probably some marine or army rangers guy whose friend got killed and WBC protested at his funeral.

I'm talking about a real hardcore motherfucker who's just gonna come in guns blazin at one of their "protests" and kill a good amount of them.

OK, back to reality now...

krazy kaju
12th April 08, 06:12 PM
Dude, why hasn't anyone thought of that before? Everybody: Let's make the funeral of Fred Phelps something that people will tell stories about for centuries!

You know what would be a great anti-WBC protest?

Just take a coffin, claim Phelps is in there, and march in Washington. It could even be some kind of "tolerance" bullshit. At this point I don't care, I just want to see some retaliation.

NSLightsOut
13th April 08, 12:58 AM
Collective punishment? Does God know he's in violation of the Geneva Convention?

God is the original structural realist..international law is only a fiction overlaying global anarchy

Dare I mention the smiting of the tribe of Amalek and the summary execution of the Egyptian firstborn?

Katje
15th April 08, 08:41 AM
I've seen vids and documentaries with them in it, and quite honestly they are frightening. Truly frightening. You can see the madness in their eyes. Do they honestly think they're doing a shred of earthly good, or is all of this just spewing of randomly directed hate at those outside the collective?

EvilSteve
15th April 08, 09:08 AM
I'd be interested to see a psychological profile of some of their members. It seems to me that for whatever reason each one of them is just full of hatred and distrust for the world at large, so they've banded together to a) support eachother in their crippling mistrust and b) find an outlet of their hatred that still allows them to think of themselves as good people.

Katje
15th April 08, 09:16 AM
I'm not a violent person, I'm really not, but those are "kill or cripple on sight" material if they ever tried to approach me with those eyes. *shudder*

EvilSteve
15th April 08, 09:18 AM
Yep, window to the soul, or lack thereof.

Yiktin Voxbane
15th April 08, 12:29 PM
Yep, window to the soul, or lack thereof.

Perchance a portal to madness ?

EvilSteve
15th April 08, 12:34 PM
Well I won't argue that those folks aren't batfuck insane.

socratic
17th April 08, 08:28 AM
I fear some of those people are there either because they don't know better or because Laywer Fred is good at manipulating people.

I'd guess some sexual aberration occured in at least a few of their members' pasts, causing them to violent react. So say they were abused by a male and thus have an irrational fear of faggotry or something.

Conversely, they themselves could be attempting to suppress homosexuality. I hear it's common amongst many violently anti-homosexuals. Maybe a reaction against something they don't understand, and are later taught to fear and hate as the enemy.

Or I could just be attempting to psychoanalyse people over the internet.

Yiktin Voxbane
17th April 08, 01:12 PM
Should (for tEh Lulz) get 1000 T-shirts printed with

FAG ENABLER in Hawt-pynk, then sell them outside this *church* ...


Hilarity could well ensue .

Feryk
17th April 08, 01:28 PM
Be funnier if you sold them INSIDE the Church. Epic Lulz.

nihilist
18th April 08, 12:04 AM
What about pirating porn?

Depends.














Is it SNUFF porn?

socratic
18th April 08, 06:14 AM
Depends.














Is it SNUFF porn?

You revived an old joke in a thread about rampant batfuck Christianity so you could make a snuff film reference?

Awesome.

lant3rn
20th April 08, 04:22 AM
You revived an old joke in a thread about rampant batfuck Christianity so you could make a snuff film reference?

Awesome.

A relevant one.

nihilist
20th April 08, 12:15 PM
It was the first time I read the thread so the old joke was new to me.

Cullion
20th April 08, 12:41 PM
Is it just me or does the WBC seem like some kind really slick cultural troll job?

nihilist
20th April 08, 12:47 PM
They are really just dysfunctional, sadistic atheists with a heightened sense of irony.