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fes_fsa
10th September 07, 07:19 PM
i think that her show had the potential to be a HUGE success.

several factors played into it flopping.

first... she picked RJ Durell to choreograph for her and the background dancers. don't get me wrong... i love RJ and think he's a wonderful person and an excellent teacher/choreographer... but his best work is for choreographing Madonna's shows. when you take into account Madonna's and Britney's ages... you can see why it wasn't as exciting as it could've been. a woman Madonna's age doing the same number, approached the way Britney did it would be hot as hell. Britney on the other hand looked bored and like she should've done more to make the performance exciting. this is not her fault. she doesn't really get to decide how she dances in her performances--her choreographers do.

her fans were expecting a Brian Friedman number with intricate movements, like when Britney did I'm a Slave 4 U.

that being said... even if she DID hire Brian to choreograph her show for her... well... you saw her expression throughout the entire number... as well as how she would look at the other dancers instead of the audience, like she was lost on what to do next. she's been out of dancing for so long that she needs to retrain her mind and body to pick up choreography.

i think the rumors about her drug use and mental instability are accurate.

i don't think she'll kill herself... but i do hope she'll dust herself off and really put an effort into rebuilding herself again.

Steve
10th September 07, 08:44 PM
Well, at least her face hasn't gone to hell yet. If it had the photoshopped porn spam of her that gets posted would make me gouge my eyes out instead of just deleting it.

fes_fsa
10th September 07, 08:48 PM
she's always reminded me of eminem, facewise. it's been hell throughout her entire career. for me, anyway.

polishillusion
10th September 07, 08:56 PM
her body is so burnt the fuck out. and her face = photo shop and make up.

plus, Kevin Federline has been INSIDE of her at least twice, which we have biological proof of. Time for the trash compactor.

fes_fsa
10th September 07, 09:10 PM
her body is so burnt the fuck out. and her face = photo shop and make up.

so her body needs work. so what? she has the money to fix it. shit... look at Demi Moore.


....Kevin Federline has been INSIDE of her at least twice...

what? once you're famous you're no longer allowed to bang unsavory skanks?

ironlurker
10th September 07, 09:53 PM
I think RJ Durell is exactly what went wrong with Osama's latest show as well

fes_fsa
10th September 07, 10:13 PM
I think RJ Durell is exactly what went wrong with Osama's latest show as well

he was TOO considerate of the fact that she hadn't performed since 2004.

she looked useless out there. the choreography was TOO easy. i can't help but feel that if he'd made it more complex, she would've forced herself to work harder... instead of looking so useless, bored, and stupid on that stage.

Teh El Macho
10th September 07, 10:42 PM
Britney Spears build her career not just on her voice, but on the way she looked. That skimpy attire was the wrong choice as it shows, more than ever, how much she has changed.

I still think she's a beautiful young woman, but, fuck, she needs to get a private trainer if she wish to exploit her sex appeal. If she wants to make a living by being a diva and a sex symbol, she better put down the doritos and do some crunches.

-- EDIT --

If she still thinks she doesn't need to get herself back into celebrity shape, all she needs to do is take a look at her money shot. I always thought her choochie would look like one of those pretty vaginas from Penthouse magazine. Instead, it fucking looked like Jabba The Hutt!!! :(

Really, you try to eat it, and it will speak back at you "Chuba!!! Ah'chu apenkee? U wamma won ka? Kee chai chai cun kuta? Bona nai kachu." - scary shit that thing is.

JohnnyCache
10th September 07, 11:08 PM
OK I'm sorry

but someone has to say it

The show sucked because it was Brittney spears.

She sucked when she was thin, people just put up with it because they had a mute button.

Diva? Shit. Elton John's more a diva then brittney spears.

fes_fsa
10th September 07, 11:47 PM
I always thought her choochie would look like one of those pretty vaginas from Penthouse magazine. Instead, it fucking looked like Jabba The Hutt!!! :(

as someone with a fat pussy, i can tell you with complete honesty that there isn't really much you can do to slim down your coochal region. your body can be in its prime, 5% body fat, and do kegals on a regular basis, but it'll still remain fat.

fes_fsa
10th September 07, 11:50 PM
OK I'm sorry

but someone has to say it

The show sucked because it was Brittney spears.

She sucked when she was thin, people just put up with it because they had a mute button.

Diva? Shit. Elton John's more a diva then brittney spears.

she didn't suck--she appeals to a different crowd. young dumb girls, homos, and strippers.

she's given so much to the dance community, that i'll continue to support her no matter how much she flops.

Harpy
11th September 07, 03:56 AM
Good review actually fes, I hope the girl doesn't give up because of this one performance and gets her confidence back plus finds who she is/wants to be for the public. She can't be 16 anymore and no one should expect her to be.

DAYoung
11th September 07, 06:53 AM
I feel sorry for her.

She shouldn't have been headlining the awards. She shouldn't have even been out of rehab, let alone onstage.

Her manager should be beaten with a cod. A big one.

Teh El Macho
11th September 07, 07:54 AM
as someone with a fat pussy, i can tell you with complete honesty that there isn't really much you can do to slim down your coochal region. your body can be in its prime, 5% body fat, and do kegals on a regular basis, but it'll still remain fat.Well, a fat pussy is a fine morsel if I may say. But it's Brit, her whole package. And it is understandable, she delivered two babies.

But it is therein where the problem is. That outfit was perfect for the Britney of yesterday, not for the one of today. That kind of outfit, in the show industry, requires a lot of work ethic, hard work, hard physical work. She should take Demi Moore, Jannet Jackson or Madonna as examples.

If she wanted to use that outfit on national TV, she should have worked hard for it. A better choice of wardrobe would have been better for her. She cannot possibly believe she can pull the stuff she did before with her current image.

She makes a living out of her image. She should have known better. Oh well. If she really wants to make it through, she has to stop feeding Jabba. That's the price people pay when want to sexploit their images.

Commodore Pipes
11th September 07, 10:34 AM
as someone with a fat pussy, i can tell you with complete honesty that there isn't really much you can do to slim down your coochal region. your body can be in its prime, 5% body fat, and do kegals on a regular basis, but it'll still remain fat.

HAAAAAAAWWT.

Kein Haar
11th September 07, 10:49 AM
Her drug-addled stupor made her unusually hot.

I could imagine myself getting a bit soused, and tumbling into a bout of sloppy oral with her.

And then we'd get downright insulting.

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 12:30 PM
I feel sorry for her.

She shouldn't have been headlining the awards. She shouldn't have even been out of rehab, let alone onstage.

Her manager should be beaten with a cod. A big one.

are you telling me that drugs and entertainment don't mix?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 01:13 PM
Good review actually fes, I hope the girl doesn't give up because of this one performance and gets her confidence back plus finds who she is/wants to be for the public. She can't be 16 anymore and no one should expect her to be.

she's trying to follow Madonna's footsteps... and going about it all wrong.

first... Madonna pioneered skanky. when she went from bubblegum to hobag, she did it gradually... and it was so controversial because NOBODY white was talking about sex--white people were singing about love. also... she appealed to ALOT of fantasies. the lolita in Like a Virgin. the church whore in Just Like a Prayer. the power suit wearing high-fashioned feminist in Vogue.

when i saw Britney's act... the first part where she's dancing with the group of girls, i thought to myself "Pussycat Dolls". this has been done. in fact, EVERYBODY's been doing this for a while. it's lost its shock value.

this was a very skanky Madonna-esque performance. with the black leather, slinking, and posing, it reminded me of Jamie King's choreography on Human Nature.
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unlike Human Nature, however, it was bubble gum. another area that Britney Failed in and Madonna succeeded in was letting go of the bubble gum. Britney already showed the world that she grew up. she should've ditched the stripper act that everyone else is doing and went for a complete and total cabaret act.

Madonna never went back to her lolita act when she put out new music. after she ditched the teeny bopper scene, she established that she was not only a versatile and powerful entertainer, but also a very strong woman.

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 01:16 PM
Her drug-addled stupor made her unusually hot.

i know. it's like watching porno... and you suddenly notice tracks on the girls arm.... and then WTF i'm cumming!

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 01:18 PM
Well, a fat pussy is a fine morsel if I may say. But it's Brit, her whole package. And it is understandable, she delivered two babies.

But it is therein where the problem is. That outfit was perfect for the Britney of yesterday, not for the one of today. That kind of outfit, in the show industry, requires a lot of work ethic, hard work, hard physical work. She should take Demi Moore, Jannet Jackson or Madonna as examples.

If she wanted to use that outfit on national TV, she should have worked hard for it. A better choice of wardrobe would have been better for her. She cannot possibly believe she can pull the stuff she did before with her current image.

She makes a living out of her image. She should have known better. Oh well. If she really wants to make it through, she has to stop feeding Jabba. That's the price people pay when want to sexploit their images.

she should've paid more money to get work done. i think that without being invasive (think tummy tuck and fixing her stomach muscles) that's the best her stomach is gonna get.

Teh El Macho
11th September 07, 01:22 PM
she's trying to follow Madonna's footsteps... and going about it all wrong.

first... Madonna pioneered skanky. when she went from bubblegum to hobag, she did it gradually... and it was so controversial because NOBODY white was talking about sex--white people were singing about love. also... she appealed to ALOT of fantasies. the lolita in Like a Virgin. the church whore in Just Like a Prayer. the power suit wearing high-fashioned feminist in Vogue.

when i saw Britney's act... the first part where she's dancing with the group of girls, i thought to myself "Pussycat Dolls". this has been done. in fact, EVERYBODY's been doing this for a while. it's lost its shock value.

this was a very skanky Madonna-esque performance. with the black leather, slinking, and posing, it reminded me of Jamie King's choreography on Human Nature.
7emPXuqN1xc
unlike Human Nature, however, it was bubble gum. another area that Britney Failed in and Madonna succeeded in was letting go of the bubble gum. Britney already showed the world that she grew up. she should've ditched the stripper act that everyone else is doing and went for a complete and total cabaret act.

Madonna never went back to her lolita act when she put out new music. after she ditched the teeny bopper scene, she established that she was not only a versatile and powerful entertainer, but also a very strong woman.

Riiiight on the money. Couldn't have said it better.

Teh El Macho
11th September 07, 01:33 PM
she should've paid more money to get work done. i think that without being invasive (think tummy tuck and fixing her stomach muscles) that's the best her stomach is gonna get.It could be better, much better, with the appropriate physical trainer. I think this is where her inexperience shows the most.

Actors, actresses, singers and the like have done this for years with much success. Madonna, Demi Moore, Jennifer Anitson, Brad Pit, Eric Bana, Janet Jackson, Cher, they have all done it. They know when and how.

Poor Brit didn't (which shows her managers and agents are not doing their job). Any girl or boy in their teen years will develop a phenomenal body just by dancing and prancing alone. Let the years accumulate and prancing and dancing doesn't cut it anymore.

Her looks, how she looks, that's part of the package that she tries to sell. It's part of her show. Either she adjusts her image or she adjusts her wardrobe and the image she wants to sell.

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 01:54 PM
It could be better, much better, with the appropriate physical trainer. I think this is where her inexperience shows the most.

Actors, actresses, singers and the like have done this for years with much success. Madonna, Demi Moore, Jennifer Anitson, Brad Pit, Eric Bana, Janet Jackson, Cher, they have all done it. They know when and how.

Poor Brit didn't (which shows her managers and agents are not doing their job). Any girl or boy in their teen years will develop a phenomenal body just by dancing and prancing alone. Let the years accumulate and prancing and dancing doesn't cut it anymore.

Her looks, how she looks, that's part of the package that she tries to sell. It's part of her show. Either she adjusts her image or she adjusts her wardrobe and the image she wants to sell.

i think alot of entertainers have work done, we just don't hear about it anywhere except for tabloids (which are unfortunately right most of the time these days).

but yeah. i agree with you completely about working harder and everything else. shit.... last i heard, Cher still works out 3 hours a day in a corset. Britney should do the same.

Commodore Pipes
11th September 07, 02:19 PM
i know. it's like watching porno... and you suddenly notice tracks on the girls arm.... and then WTF i'm cumming!

Now you're just trying to get me to type "HAWT."




But it works.



HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWTT.

MaverickZ
11th September 07, 02:21 PM
I watch porn for the behind the scenes special features. That's where you get the good stuff. Like the girl complaining about getting cum in her eye. ..... what?!

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 03:10 PM
I watch porn for the behind the scenes special features. That's where you get the good stuff. Like the girl complaining about getting cum in her eye. ..... what?!

it's not fun.

i can feel my potential children eating away at my cornea.

ironlurker
11th September 07, 09:32 PM
Fes, Simon Cowell seems to share the same opinion as you


MR Nasty SIMON COWELL finds being brutally honest comes easily to him – in fact he’s made it his day job. So when I asked him to critique BRITNEY SPEARS’ performance at the MTV Video Music Awards, I should have known the X Factor judge would give her both barrels.
Britney made possibly the worst comeback in history on Sunday night, performing her new track Gimme More.
She pranced around like a zombie in bra and pants in a performance which could have effectively ended her career as a pop singer.
Simon, who has made his fortune from guiding the careers of pop singers, says Britney would have been shown the door if her performance had been an audition for his ITV1 show.


Speaking from his mansion in LA, Simon told me: “If I had been looking after Britney I’d have taken one look at her in rehearsals and I wouldn’t have allowed her on stage.
“It would have been worth pulling her off the bill — no matter what the cost — to save any chance she had of resurrecting her career.
“She wasn’t ready for that show in every possible way.
“The song wasn’t right, the image wasn’t right and she just wasn’t rehearsed.
“If she had turned up and given that performance at the X Factor auditions then I wouldn’t have put her through to the next round.
“The problem she has now is that she could have killed her career. It’s difficult to come back from that performance, for a while at least."


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2007420406,00.html

fes_fsa
11th September 07, 10:28 PM
Fes, Simon Cowell seems to share the same opinion as you


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2007420406,00.html

alot of people feel that she shouldn't have been on that stage.

Sirc
12th September 07, 04:02 AM
As a dancer myself, I have to say: Brittney is absolutely terrible.

In the end, it doesn't really matter who choreographs what, movement is movement and with enough practice you should look at least half-decent.

She obviously skipped rehearsals and didn't do very much of it. What a stupid girl. I'm surprised she didn't just start making it up as she went along. If I was one of those backup dancers, I wouldn't even put that on my resume.

Sun Wukong
12th September 07, 04:09 AM
did anyone else think the backup dancers were kinda... 'fugly'

Sirc
12th September 07, 04:12 AM
Yeah, I think that's the look they were going for.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 04:22 AM
In the end, it doesn't really matter who choreographs what, movement is movement and with enough practice you should look at least half-decent.

see... this is where i disagree.

the back up dancers did wonderfully because they HAD to. people who choreograph shows for older entertainers tend to hire the more technical dancers, because they take into account the fact that their client is not as physically capable to pick up choreography as a younger person is. the dancers basically just dance around the person singing.

Britney was out of commission for 3 years and her choreographer was WAY too accomodating of this fact. he should've forced her to work harder with more moves instead of giving her a geriatric number to do while every one else dances their asses off. because of her age and the fact that her costume was radically different than everyone elses, she stuck out like a sore thumb.


If I was one of those backup dancers, I wouldn't even put that on my resume.

yes you would. getting a job on a major pop star's show would guarantee you more work and a better agent if your current one sucks.

we are the most hard working, underpaid, underappreciated talents. most of us have to get regular jobs because work is few and far between. but you already knew that--don't be a hater.

Sun Wukong
12th September 07, 04:48 AM
Yeah, I think that's the look they were going for.


Whose job is it to make sure train-wrecks like that don't happen? Because that dude needs to get fired.

Surely someone should have said something during the dress rehearsal? They have those I assume?

DAYoung
12th September 07, 05:09 AM
alot of people feel that she shouldn't have been on that stage.

I'm one of them. It was bad for her, terrible for audiences, and an insult to other performers who could've used the spot.

Sirc
12th September 07, 05:11 AM
Whose job is it to make sure train-wrecks like that don't happen? Because that dude needs to get fired.

Surely someone should have said something during the dress rehearsal? They have those I assume?

Casting director. Usually it's some retard who's "looking for a new look."

And Rita, I think you got me wrong.

I think Brittney is retarded and should've put more effort into it. I was making a general comment about dancers in general. The back-up dancers did great. Brittney, not so much. Even if she was out for a few years, she could've done more than just stand there and do absolutely nothing.

I mean, there have been times where I haven't danced in months, and I'll go back to a class and I'll suck. But after one or two hard classes, I am exponentially better than when I returned. Not only that she had at least a month to rehearse this. What a failure.

Sirc
12th September 07, 05:15 AM
Oh and I can guarantee you that I wouldn't put that on my resume. If I were a professional dancer, I would have other jobs that would keep me occupied. That was a disgrace and I would make sure that never got out.

DAYoung
12th September 07, 05:31 AM
Oh and I can guarantee you that I wouldn't put that on my resume. If I were a professional dancer, I would have other jobs that would keep me occupied. That was a disgrace and I would make sure that never got out.

If that's your one opportunity to dance with a star in front of millions, it's going on your resume.

ironlurker
12th September 07, 12:11 PM
If that's your one opportunity to dance with a star in front of millions, it's going on your resume.

so resume material includes a spicy merengue with . . .

http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/v/7/reubenspaul.jpg

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 01:24 PM
Oh and I can guarantee you that I wouldn't put that on my resume. If I were a professional dancer, I would have other jobs that would keep me occupied. That was a disgrace and I would make sure that never got out.

even though the show was a total failure... i still don't see why not. the professional dance community is tiny and full of gossip whores. the news would spread like wildfire anyway.

let's not forget that choreographers refer dancers to other choreographers... and if you're under an agency, they'll blab it just to get you more work.

Dagon Akujin
12th September 07, 01:25 PM
STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE!!!


all she needs to do is take a look at her money shot. I always thought her choochie would look like one of those pretty vaginas from Penthouse magazine.

as someone with a fat pussy, i can tell you with complete honesty that there isn't really much you can do to slim down your coochal region.

Well, a fat pussy is a fine morsel if I may say.

Oh well. If she really wants to make it through, she has to stop feeding Jabba.

WTF i'm cumming!

the girl complaining about getting cum in her eye. ..... what?!

i can feel my potential children eating away at my cornea.

Wait, what the fuck was the topic again?

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 01:30 PM
Surely someone should have said something during the dress rehearsal? They have those I assume?

thank you, Chris....

one more thing she failed in: i saw clips of the dress rehearsal and she looked great--comfortable as hell...........IN HER JEANS. while the background dancers were wearing what they had to wear for the show.

every entertainer knows that you have to be comfortable in what wardrobe puts you in before final curtain.

this could factor into her expression being so nervous on stage.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 01:32 PM
I'm one of them. It was bad for her, terrible for audiences, and an insult to other performers who could've used the spot.

i wonder if it hurt her relationship with other entertainers who wanted that spot.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 02:35 PM
well.... this guy put me in my place....
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fes_fsa
12th September 07, 02:46 PM
oh noes.... moar evuh dense az 2 wai britnee dansd badlee.
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Sirc
12th September 07, 03:10 PM
If that's your one opportunity to dance with a star in front of millions, it's going on your resume.

I wouldn't do it. Out of principle alone, I wouldn't do it.

Dagon Akujin
12th September 07, 03:17 PM
So the excuse is that Britney has gotten so fat that heels cannot support her without breaking under the pressure?

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:20 PM
Britney is the princess of the universe. As long as she shows up she has put forth enough effort.

I still think she is hot. When celebrities are coherent and together, they do not seem as obtainable for the everyman.

Plus, God help me I have been playing her music at work to annoy my coworkers and I am starting to like it... and Alizee.

Mon dieu, I am turning into a 15 year old girl!

i think Britney is great, which is why i started this thread.

i don't want her to die or go into hiding--i want her to fix herself.

she owes it to her fans.

Sirc
12th September 07, 03:25 PM
So the excuse is that Britney has gotten so fat that heels cannot support her without breaking under the pressure?

Actually those are dancing boots. They're all cloth with a leather sole and the heels are designed to move. They're pretty terrible but they're designed to move because if you do a spin in them, you don't want the heel to catch on anything.

They're really a terrible idea because any weight on the back foot and it's over for them.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:32 PM
So the excuse is that Britney has gotten so fat that heels cannot support her without breaking under the pressure?

it's such a bullshit claim. if you watch her other performances, she has a habit of going pigeon toed when she dances, so to make up for it, she emphasizes the turn out.

i don't think her heel broke--they were just the wrong shoes to dance in. they didn't support her ankles and it looked like her heel was sliding around in her shoe. because of the height of her heels, she should've had more support. she would have known if she had practiced in her entire outfit.

i see people on other boards saying her heels were too high. again... bullshit. for this number... the higher up you go on the balls of your feet, the more you rely on your knees for balance to make up for the curve that is forced into your back, and this makes it easier to emphasize the sway to your hips.

this number should've been hotter. Britney failed.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:39 PM
Actually those are dancing boots. They're all cloth with a leather sole and the heels are designed to move. They're pretty terrible but they're designed to move because if you do a spin in them, you don't want the heel to catch on anything.

They're really a terrible idea because any weight on the back foot and it's over for them.
i don't think they were dancing boots. i think they were designer boots. the soles on dance shoes are usually more flexible so that you can rise more on your foot when you do a spin, so that the heel won't catch.

if they were dance shoes, britney obviously got the wrong size--she was wobbling and it looked like her foot was sliding around in her shoe. dance shoes have too much support--when you get the right size.

let me restate that Britney didn't dress up for the dress rehearsal, so obviously she didn't try the shoes first.

Sirc
12th September 07, 03:47 PM
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Where were the days like this? :( Good performances are good performances.

Also, I've seen those exact shoes and have danced with a few girls who use those boots.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:49 PM
<3's

Sirc
12th September 07, 03:51 PM
I remember that performance. I wish I was there. Fuck that was some good shit. I love how Michael Jackson dances. I did a rendition of smooth criminal with my friends in high school. It was fucking awesome.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:51 PM
Also, I've seen those exact shoes and have danced with a few girls who use those boots.
then she got the wrong size, because they did not fit her. i thought because of the wobbling, that they were designer boots and not dance boots.

ironlurker
12th September 07, 03:53 PM
oh noes.... moar evuh dense az 2 wai britnee dansd badlee.
(youtube video)
LOL, where is the shooter on the grassy knoll and the three tramps? Her heel broke and mysteriously came back into place? Looks to me more like she was drunk/high or her legs just weren't in shape, or both.

edit- just read fes' last post


then she got the wrong size, because they did not fit her. i thought because of the wobbling, that they were designer boots and not dance boots.

I'm honestly not saying this to be mean, but could they have been picked out for her, let's say, based on an inaccurate assumption of her body weight?

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:53 PM
I remember that performance. I wish I was there. Fuck that was some good shit. I love how Michael Jackson dances. I did a rendition of smooth criminal with my friends in high school. It was fucking awesome.

marry me, Sirc.
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we could do a Captain EO theme... with robots, pirates, and evil spider hookers.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:56 PM
LOL, where is the shooter on the grassy knoll and the three tramps? Her heel broke and mysteriously came back into place? Looks to me more like she was drunk/high or her legs just weren't in shape, or both.

read what i wrote to Dagon. there was nothing wrong with her heel. it's her habit of how she positions her feet that made it look off.

ironlurker
12th September 07, 03:59 PM
read what i wrote to Dagon
I know it wasn't your position fes, no need to make this an Islam thread :redface:

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 03:59 PM
I'm honestly not saying this to be mean, but could they have been picked out for her, let's say, based on an inaccurate assumption of her body weight?

she's not fat.

she's lazy.

don't blame wardrobe for her not practicing in her outfit before final curtain.

it really is britney's fault.

Sirc
12th September 07, 04:01 PM
We could do Billy Jean.

Sirc
12th September 07, 04:03 PM
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Here's another good performance.

ironlurker
12th September 07, 04:04 PM
I remember that performance. I wish I was there. Fuck that was some good shit. I love how Michael Jackson dances. I did a rendition of smooth criminal with my friends in high school. It was fucking awesome.
Were their shoes actually nailed down for that crazy slant part? Thought I read that somewhere.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 04:07 PM
he is and will always be my favorite male pop performer.

fes_fsa
12th September 07, 04:08 PM
Were their shoes actually nailed down for that crazy slant part? Thought I read that somewhere.

you insensitive bastard. Sirc's chinese.

OMGRACISTBANPLZ!!!!!!:eatbaby:

Sirc
12th September 07, 04:09 PM
Were their shoes actually nailed down for that crazy slant part? Thought I read that somewhere.

I don't know. It was before my time. Back in the prime of my dancing abilities, I was able to do it, so I can see it possible.

fes_fsa
6th October 07, 09:20 PM
so... i had one of those gossip shows on as white noise in the background while doing my housework yesterday... and stopped everything i was doing completely.

whoa whoa whoa, i thought.... there's an actual official music video????

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1263756kzbEf5pB

i will tell you right away... that the choreography for a show is the EXACT SAME as what is in the official video for the song... at least in Britney's case.

no wonder Britney was nervous about her performance. even the video... WHICH CAN UNDERGO AN ASSLOAD OF EDITING TO MAKE HER LOOK MAGNIFICENT.... was horribly underchoreographed, underdanced, and underperformed. :(

DAYoung
6th October 07, 11:21 PM
Not brilliant. But it would've slipped by fine if she hadn't headlined at the MTV awards.

Dumb bit of anti-publicity.

fes_fsa
7th October 07, 12:17 AM
the video was crap.

i'm sure that if she had done the video instead of headlined... there would still have been a britney-sucks drama fest... but nowhere near as bad as it has been the past few weeks.

AAAhmed46
7th October 07, 12:41 AM
I remember that performance. I wish I was there. Fuck that was some good shit. I love how Michael Jackson dances. I did a rendition of smooth criminal with my friends in high school. It was fucking awesome.

I tend to make fun of micheal jackson alot.

But you know, i have yet to see someone dance like he does.

Even now, i really don't see anyone who truly impresses me like Jackson. He's fucking great.

I still like his music.

NoMan
7th October 07, 01:02 AM
My thoughts on Britney Spears from my little blog:

So, I watched the train wreck of Britney Spears performance today. (Visit mtv.com to see it, Youtube censored it. Did she pay them off?) It's been interesting to see the 'fans' reactions to it. There's been a lot of chatter, but no one really seems to say what Britney Spears real sin was with that performance.

Was she fat? Yep. The pot belly stuck out like Michael Jackson at a Boy Scout's meeting. Her defenders say that she's a mother of two and that's the problem, but that's only because they don't know their Britney Spears. She's a complete glutton, her house is stuffed with junk food. When she's not touring, she gains what I estimate at about 15 to 25 lbs. of fat, (I've seen her at her not-so-hot weight about 5 years ago and that's my estimate). She hires a personal trainer to come live with her, spends her days on the treadmill and getting her sweets taken away, then presto. She's back in performance shape. This is the same boom-and-bust cycle many different performers go through, nothing unusual. But since she looked fatter than she did now *before* she had kids, that's not a valid excuse. The real reason is that she just didn't put any time into getting in shape for the performance.

Some people are blaming the outfit. But that's a symptom of the problem, not the cause of it. The real problem is that almost all pop icons have made their money off of selling one thing, sex. Britney Spear's image, from the "I'm a virgin who has never seen the male genitals" to "I'm a dirty whore who will bang you in an airplane stall" is a careful crafted sex image.

But, she violated the central clause of all pop music. She wasn't sexy. Pop music has no distinctive features to it. Lyrically, it's mostly crap without any real substance. The reigning genre of lyrics is "I'm so fabulous", which is ironically, what Britney Spear's new song seemed to be about, but Fergie and many others have written songs on these exact same lines. If I want to hear someone masturbate self-praise panegyrics about themselves, I can easily listen to Bill O'Reilly's autofellatio, and I have no need to hear it set to a beat.

Musically, it's all crap. Are there any breakdowns, blast beats, gravity rolls, or other distinctive features of the music? Nope. Most of it can't even be called "music" in the sense that no one plays an instrument. Go ahead and watch the VMA performance, tell me where the band is.

How about vocally? There's some quibbling here, but the only real exceptions I can think of are Christina Aguilera and Mariah Carey, (I don't know if those spellings are correct, but I don't care enough to check), but even they rely upon a high amount of acoustic tampering to reach their sound levels. Mariah's fans in particular wax mystical about her octave range, but they don't know that real opera singers don't have microphones. Their octave range is lower because the entire room must hear them unamplified. It's doubtful Mariah could even go up two notes and be heard in a crowded room without amplification. Others in the genre, Nelly Fertudo (again, not sure on spelling), Fergie, (the most low talent of the low talents vocally), Madonna, and many others don't even bother to fluctuate from a singular monotonous pitch. Mind you this is what they sound like with amplified and electronically distorted voices, I don't want to imagine the horror of what they would sound like unplugged.

And finally, most don't even sing. They lip synch. The clever fan can spot this whenever they cut the microphones back on, and the singer says "Thank you" and pants into the microphone, giving the annoying feedback of heavy breathing into the microphone. Do you suppose that this person has been singing breathlessly for the past 3 minutes and only now has taken their first breath of oxygen? (Much as I would like to see what that would actually look like.)

But, like Pro-Wrestling, no matter how fake it is, you don't let on. When the other guy puts on his ultra-deadly finisher, you pretend like he's ripping out your spleen. In pop, you dance and lip-synch like you are really performing. But Spears didn't. She didn't even bother to lip-synch certain parts, which the editors wisely panned out into some very strange overhead and aerial shots to help offset the fake synching. (In a rare moment of pop reality, Vivian Fox said she didn't know what the big deal was about Milli Vanilli faking the songs was about, every pop singer she knew used audio tapes). She didn't get in shape so she could look sexy. She didn't put on a dance or performance. She exposed pop music for what it was, a hollow M&M shell with no chocolate.

It's much like watching the different Presidential debates. No one talks about anything, but they make a big show out of doing it. No one mentions we're 37th in healthcare, 28th in mathematical knowledge, our best and brightest are almost all foreigners, our steadily declining numbers in scientific journals and Nobel prizes, our repressive foreign policies, our billions of military weaponry to regimes like Saudi Arabia, our desposition of people like Mossadegh and Nasser leading to current Middle Eastern crisis, our support of Pinochet in Chile or Papa Doc in Haiti, or any other real issue. If any politician dared break the KAYFLAB, (the pro-wrestling name for faking it), they would be immediately ostracized. Likewise, Spears broke the KAYFLAB of pop music, she gave a crappy performance which makes you sit and watch the train wreck of a musical genre at its most basic level.

Will her new album sell? I bet it will. She just needs to get in good enough shape to make a decent music video, (get workout tips from Fergie?), and keep her hair. The ultimate truthiness of the situation is that it's unrelated to anything real, and hence, doesn't require anything "real" to get back into it. Like the pro-wrestling industry, whoever gets picked to be popular will be popular, no talent needed. The fact that you can manufacture a star with a show like "American Idol" speaks volumes to this, just try manufacturing a brain surgeon with a show called "American Headcase".

jubei33
8th October 07, 03:33 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NoMan again.

on another note, what are you doing watching a britany speers performance?

NoMan
8th October 07, 07:06 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NoMan again.

on another note, what are you doing watching a britany speers performance?

Same reason I comment on other irrelevant social issues, because the media won't stop talking about them. So, I sit and watch, and watch, and watch, and watch. And then, something horrible happens. People start commenting on the subjects they watch. And I watch in agape horror at how bad most commentary is on social issues.

An example. When Chris Benoit murdered his family and committed suicide, I was watching the news. On came commentary after commentary about how it was the roids that made him do it. I only know of one study that looked at the correlation between roids and all crimes, including violent crime.

The study found that while self-bias reporting of "roid rage" was very high, when it tracked athletes on and off steroids, it found no higher correlation of athletes on cycle committing crimes than off cycle. This is an important study to look at if you want to say that steroids caused the crime, because they're not even correlative of violent crime, much less causative.

Then Steve Austin's ex-wife came on, and she started talking about her husband and how he abused her, and it was related to roids. Except from all the stories I read or saw on that, Austin was almost always belligerently drunk when the cops arrested him. And alcohol is well-known not just for abuse cases, but a whole range of crimes are usually commited while drinking alcohol. Alcohol is a well-known destroyer of your inhibitions and ability to think long-term, which criminologists have long known are the two most important factors in determining whether a person will be a criminal or not.

All this is important, relevant information to the Benoit case. But none of it was discussed, as well as issues like, "Was Benoit on anti-depressents or pain medication?" Was he using any other drugs? Etc.

This causes the rage to build up inside me, until I have to vent and rant and rave about it online. My old method of shouting from the rooftops just doesn't have the appeal anymore.

jubei33
8th October 07, 08:09 AM
No need for the defense, I was teasing you. I thought your analysis to be insightful, hence the +rep.

So, uh you're on roids now too?

I hear your foot ball team is numba 1 this year. >http://zmax.org/supergreg/sgdotcom/

My alma m is number 3 now, Maybe we'll meet battle royal?

NoMan
8th October 07, 10:32 AM
No need for the defense, I was teasing you. I thought your analysis to be insightful, hence the +rep.

So, uh you're on roids now too?

I hear your foot ball team is numba 1 this year. >http://zmax.org/supergreg/sgdotcom/

My alma m is number 3 now, Maybe we'll meet battle royal?

I wasn't being defensive, that's honestly why I write articles. I need to move them onto a website, right now I just have a ton of notes on facebook in no particular order.

Battle Royale it is. We beat Florida after a very crappy first half, but we've been tearing it up otherwise. If Ohio, (number 3 now, I'm guessing that's you), comes to our stadium, they'll lose. We're 23 out of 24 for home games. We can reach over noise levels of over 119 decibels, set off seismographs, and cause communication problems in equipment. Oh yeah, and the fans are usually completely drunk and chanting obscenities, which has caused a ruckus on ESPN to put delays on our games to filter out the crowd. MMA is not a hobby over here, it's how you survive the crowds.

jubei33
8th October 07, 04:56 PM
I wasn't being defensive, that's honestly why I write articles. I need to move them onto a website, right now I just have a ton of notes on facebook in no particular order.

Battle Royale it is. We beat Florida after a very crappy first half, but we've been tearing it up otherwise. If Ohio, (number 3 now, I'm guessing that's you), comes to our stadium, they'll lose. We're 23 out of 24 for home games. We can reach over noise levels of over 119 decibels, set off seismographs, and cause communication problems in equipment. Oh yeah, and the fans are usually completely drunk and chanting obscenities, which has caused a ruckus on ESPN to put delays on our games to filter out the crowd. MMA is not a hobby over here, it's how you survive the crowds.

yeah, ohio is good, but seems a little young. Especially QB, he seems to throw interceptions alot. He'll get better, though. Florida, pshaa.... Drunk fans? we riot for fun in Ohio, I was burning couch hurdles champion in 2004, then it escalated...oh its so on

Steve
8th October 07, 04:59 PM
There is a sports forum (http://www.sociocide.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=88), guys...