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Eldarbong
4th September 07, 03:01 PM
I enjoy horror, the more messed up/out there, the better. Never read a King or Koontz book if that is what you're thinking. Just finished "Into the fire" by Richard Laymon (he has many good, if often trashy books) and "The beloved" by JF Gonzalez. I am working through the Books of Blood omnibus from Clive Barker, it is excellent. Anyone else into reading extreme horror/dark suspense books?

Neildo
4th September 07, 03:14 PM
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SpringHeeledJack
4th September 07, 03:22 PM
No. To be honest, though, I really don't like much fiction in the first place. I think the last two I've read that I enjoyed were both by Donna Tartt; The Secret History and The Little Friend.

Zub-Zub
4th September 07, 04:50 PM
I enjoy horror, the more messed up/out there, the better. Never read a King or Koontz book if that is what you're thinking. Just finished "Into the fire" by Richard Laymon (he has many good, if often trashy books) and "The beloved" by JF Gonzalez. I am working through the Books of Blood omnibus from Clive Barker, it is excellent. Anyone else into reading extreme horror/dark suspense books?


If you really haven't read any Stephen King or Dean Koontz, you're missing out. For King novels, I'd recommend Pet Sematary and The Shining for starters. For Koontz, try Fear Nothing and Seize The Night. If you like horror/suspense then you won't regret it.

Cullion
4th September 07, 05:37 PM
I used to like King, Lovecaft and Clive Barker (the writing and graphic novels, not just the movies) in my teens. I went off it in my late-teens/early twenties because I started finding it predictable and shock art, at best, only has mild humour value these days, it no longer impresses.

I occasionally look at rotten.com for links to get a dark chuckle out of my work colleagues from, but these days I'd rather see/read/listen to something that made me go 'wow, that's amazing' than 'urghh! That's fucked up!'

Olorin
4th September 07, 06:34 PM
I am reading Dracula by Bran Stoker right now. Before that I was reading Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. However Frankenstein is as much SciFi as anything else.

I recommend both books to anyone, but Dracula is a little slow at times.

anarki13
4th September 07, 06:41 PM
yep. i have both (along with Jekyl and Hyde) bound in one paperback, great for travelling. Dracula is stronger on the Horror (and less on the Moral Lecturing) than Frankenstein, but you just can't beat young Shelley's imagination :)

these days i mostly read Pratchett. no horror, sorry.

WarPhalange
4th September 07, 07:51 PM
Horror works better as a video game.

Mas
4th September 07, 08:45 PM
The Descent by Jeff Long was a pretty good Horror/Sci Fi book. Fun quick read that made my hair stand on end a couple of times.

Sun Wukong
5th September 07, 02:16 AM
I like me some Stephen King personally. He's not spectacularly gifted as deep thinking writers go, but for this genre of writing he's the man. For pop-horror novels, he's really fun to read.

Cullion
5th September 07, 05:07 AM
Horror works better as a video game.

Definitely. I'd really like to see an updated version of the late 90's game 'Realms of the Haunting'.

bad credit
5th September 07, 04:12 PM
I've never really dug King and his page padding where he describes everything in every room the characters go into just to make it a 1000 page book. I prefer to watch the movies made out of his books.

I've never read Koontz.

When I was younger I dug Edgar Allen Poe, and later H. P. Lovercraft.

I read and loved and would recomend Brian Lumley's Necroscope, even though I never got around to reading the 100 books that come after it in the series. Shit, somewhere around here I should have some of the d6 rules for the RPG.

I dug Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.

OZZ
5th September 07, 09:19 PM
Poe is the king in my own opinion. I also like Lovecraft, some of King's stuff and Robert Bloch as well.
I highly reccommend Clive Barker's 'Books of Blood' . There are, I believe six volumes in all ..great short stories. Highly imaginative and vivid in their description and detail. You will really enjoy them.I actually prefer Barker over Stephen King when it comes to short stories..
Check out "The Bachman Books" - four early King novels as well. Good stuff.
If you really want to get into classic horror (Frankenstein Is fabulous, as every one knows) and want to start 'at the beginning' you should try to find a book called "The Castle of Otranto" by Horace Walpole. It is largely regarded in literary circles to be the first true Gothic novel. Also, "A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner , a nice, creepy gothic tale set in the old South.

Eldarbong
7th September 07, 01:48 AM
Poe is the king in my own opinion. I also like Lovecraft, some of King's stuff and Robert Bloch as well.
I highly reccommend Clive Barker's 'Books of Blood' . There are, I believe six volumes in all ..great short stories. Highly imaginative and vivid in their description and detail. You will really enjoy them.I actually prefer Barker over Stephen King when it comes to short stories..
Check out "The Bachman Books" - four early King novels as well. Good stuff.
If you really want to get into classic horror (Frankenstein Is fabulous, as every one knows) and want to start 'at the beginning' you should try to find a book called "The Castle of Otranto" by Horace Walpole. It is largely regarded in literary circles to be the first true Gothic novel. Also, "A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner , a nice, creepy gothic tale set in the old South.

I am actually reading books of blood 1-3 right now. It is great stuff, well written, unique barker style. I read "A rose for Emily" in English class actually, don't remember too many gothic elements except for the necrophilic aspects.

EuropIan
7th September 07, 05:42 AM
Clive Barker writes smut cleverly disguised as horror.

He writes really well though. I own Books of Blood and Cabal

Stephen King's The Shining is a pretty good book though

Sun Wukong
7th September 07, 06:00 AM
Clive Barker writes smut cleverly disguised as horror.



we definitely see eye to eye on this, but I can't stand reading soft core porn that someone has tried to pass off as literature, which is one of the reasons I stopped reading science fiction for a long time. Smut is just filler. It's absolutely devoid of intellectual value.

EuropIan
7th September 07, 07:09 AM
well, to be honest I do like the way he writes. And some of the short stories in Books of blood are ok. But Cabal is just one long necrophiliac's dream.

Scrapper
7th September 07, 02:23 PM
I still don't read "The Pit and the Pendulum" after dark.

Poe FTW.

bad credit
7th September 07, 06:47 PM
An ex gf got me into Clive Barker's movies, but she screwed me over good, so now everytime I see Hellraiser on cable, I want to kill random women. I think that's what Barker was going for anyways, so meh.

I swear, if you watch Night Breed and some of the other single movies he did, not any series, they have a really good story, but then end seemingly in the middle of the story with lots of explosions. I think Hollywood has screwed over his scripts over and over.

I've never read his books.

socratic
9th September 07, 04:43 AM
Poe and Lovecraft were both masters.

The Fall of The House of Usher was overwhelmingly awesome. The sense of darkness and malice of atmosphere held within that story is priceless; it's one of the things I like best about both Poe, and Lovecraft, who was heavily influenced by him, if memory serves.

Edit: Speaking of Horror videogames, I thoroughly recommend Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth. It is probably the scariest game I have ever played, and it isn't even a particularly 'realistic' style. Something about running for your life from an entire town of monstrous people wanting to kill you in your sleep is just downright chilling....

Eldarbong
11th September 07, 12:16 AM
I read that one of the stories from the Books of Blood, "The Midnight Meat Train," is being made into a movie that will be released in 2008. I understand why people think that some of Barker's stuff is smut, but I think this is an elitist perspective on his work. Some of it is just weird for the sake of weird, but does that make it devoid of any value? Most modern horror would not be considered classic literature, but there are definitely some good writers out there whose stories are filled with sex and violence.

EuropIan
11th September 07, 06:01 AM
o rly?

in Cabal (the book upon which the movie Nightbreed is based) there is an explicitly described scene where the main character, now dead, has sex with his girlfriend in the holding cell at the police station.

In a Tale of Two Giants (from Books of Blood) it starts out with the main character sodomizing his boyfriend.

I believe I could go on. As I said I like the way the guy writes, Cabal is actually pretty good. But make no mistake, he writes smut.

Lovecraft can either be incredibly boring or incredibly exciting. Sometimes it can be both at the same time (see: At the mountains of Madness)