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Quikfeet509
11th July 07, 01:10 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19685977/


So a senator that was very vocal against Clinton during his impeachment, wanted to get prayer in public schools, and helped lead the charge against fags and their attack on the purity of traditional marrage frequented an escort service. Or two.

So apparently everything is kosher because he asked god and his wife for forgiveness, although his wife previously said, on the topic of the Bill Clinton's affair, that she would pull a Bobbit on him.


We can only pray.

Stick
11th July 07, 01:34 AM
God, I love this town!

Dagon Akujin
11th July 07, 02:41 AM
So they mentioned this on Fox tonight and one of the commentators actually said something along the lines of "Why does it matter what he does on his own time? If he can perform his job well, why should any of us care?"

Great advice, but the 90's are calling.

Dagon

emboesso
11th July 07, 07:16 AM
Wow. A hypocritical politician.

We should have Al Gore and Robert Kennedy Jr. take time off from their greenhouse gas emission lectures and fly their private jets in, and then take their SUV motorcades from the airport, to the MSNBC studios and discuss Senator Vitter's hypocrisy.

Louisiana's lived by its own rules since Huey Long was elected in 1928. Earl Long was governor in 1959, married, and was living with a French Quarter stripper. He blatantly lied about it, and it still only made him more popular.

I still remember that Edwin Edwards-David Duke governor's race in the 90s. They both wound up in jail. Louisiana remains the northern-most Banana Republic.

billy sol hurok
11th July 07, 08:03 AM
Louisiana's lived by its own rules since Huey Long was elected in 1928. Earl Long was governor in 1959, married, and was living with a French Quarter stripper. He blatantly lied about it, and it still only made him more popular.

I still remember that Edwin Edwards-David Duke governor's race in the 90s. They both wound up in jail. Louisiana remains the northern-most Banana Republic.

<Foghorn Leghorn voice>
Mr. Speaker, on the advice of counsel I plead 'Louisiana.'
</Foghorn Leghorn voice>

It will be interesting to see who else gets outed, and in what order, and from which side of the aisle. Though I think the opening salvo offers a pretty good clue as to the ho-mistress's political affiliation . . . 'course, he might have just been a lousy tipper. We shall see.

mrblackmagic
11th July 07, 08:23 AM
The turtle guy's got himself in some shit. The growing joke that is his political career continues.

Sun Wukong
11th July 07, 08:23 AM
Were you actually living in Louisiana at the time?

I was in High School and I remember Duke damn near won that race. Edwards received the majority of the white vote in the state, which both did and didn't come as a surprise to me. Duke still claimed victory afterwards by saying, "I won my constituency. I won 55 percent of the white vote."

If you think things would have played out any differently in Mississippi, Georgia or Alabama you are mistaken. Except maybe there would have been a riot in Atlanta or somebody would have shot the old son of a bitch.

Still would have taken a big enough percentage of the vote. Which is one of the things that always pisses me off about Coulter. She knows the demographic of the south and plays to it. All the Neo-cons think it's a big joke, and get their laughs, but that shit's no fucking joke in the south.

I personally would like to tar and feather the bitch and drop her in the middle of the Zulu Mardi Gras parade on Bourbon Street.

mrblackmagic
11th July 07, 11:34 AM
Yep, I was a about 6 at the time. The only thing I remember was dad being really pissed about the predicament.

Quikfeet509
11th July 07, 04:29 PM
Wow. A hypocritical politician.

We should have Al Gore and Robert Kennedy Jr. take time off from their greenhouse gas emission lectures and fly their private jets in, and then take their SUV motorcades from the airport, to the MSNBC studios and discuss Senator Vitter's hypocrisy.

Louisiana's lived by its own rules since Huey Long was elected in 1928. Earl Long was governor in 1959, married, and was living with a French Quarter stripper. He blatantly lied about it, and it still only made him more popular.

I still remember that Edwin Edwards-David Duke governor's race in the 90s. They both wound up in jail. Louisiana remains the northern-most Banana Republic.

You are seriously going to compare Gore traveling across the country in a private jet while preaching about Global Warming to Vitter railing against all possible threats to the sanctity of traditional Christian marriage while fucking escorts? Really?

Let's see...Gore complains about greenhouse gasses while using a jet that adds to them...although there isn't much else he can do since his solar-powered helicoptor is in the shop...and Vitter sings praise to the ideal of Christian marriage while cheating on his wife...although there isn't much else he can do since original sin started with women and they are responsible for leading him astray.

Gore has to use a jet. Vitter doesn't have to fuck around on his wife. There is no comparison.

Zendetta
11th July 07, 07:00 PM
Wow. A hypocritical right-wing moralizing Christian Republican politician.

Corrected.

BTW, were you singing this whole "but-but-but both sides are sonsabitches!" number while our tax dollars were paying for Clinton to be hounded over lying about a blowjob?

I'm guessing "No".

emboesso
11th July 07, 08:54 PM
Corrected.

BTW, were you singing this whole "but-but-but both sides are sonsabitches!" number while our tax dollars were paying for Clinton to be hounded over lying about a blowjob?

I'm guessing "No".

The number one law enforcement person in the nation lying under oath in court? You don't see a problem in this? A regular patrolman would have gotten fired for this.

emboesso
11th July 07, 08:57 PM
You are seriously going to compare Gore traveling across the country in a private jet while preaching about Global Warming to Vitter railing against all possible threats to the sanctity of traditional Christian marriage while fucking escorts? Really?

Uhhh, yeah! As a matter of fact I am. I guess my ability to recognize hypocrisy on both sides is unique.


Gore has to use a jet. Vitter doesn't have to fuck around on his wife. There is no comparison.

I said "private" jet, and no, he doesn't have to use a private jet.

frumpleswift
11th July 07, 10:13 PM
God, I love this town!

you will grow to hate it in time...


The number one law enforcement person in the nation lying under oath in court?

Well...Bush hasn't lied under oath mostly becase he hasn't been forced to testify under oath yet. Give him time.


You don't see a problem in this? A regular patrolman would have gotten fired for this.

Man, if a mere patrolman would lose his job for lying under oath, I wonder what they would do to a high ranking administration official actually convicted of lying under oath?

Don "Jive Turkey" Gwinn
11th July 07, 10:33 PM
Louisiana is the only state Illinoisans officially recognize as a contender in the Corruption Stakes. Nobody else is brazen enough to come close to us.

frumpleswift
11th July 07, 10:35 PM
Louisiana is the only state Illinoisans officially recognize as a contender in the Corruption Stakes. Nobody else is brazen enough to come close to us.

How much of the voting population of Lousiana is deceased?

Quikfeet509
12th July 07, 12:19 AM
Uhhh, yeah! As a matter of fact I am. I guess my ability to recognize hypocrisy on both sides is unique.



Recognize hypocrisy - yes.


Ability to compare magnitude - obviously no.

AAAhmed46
12th July 07, 01:26 AM
See?

THIS is how you fight terrorism.


You find the funny looking Imam guys/politician who stands for religious values and you find him with a mistress and expose him.

ThaiBoxerShorts
12th July 07, 01:41 AM
I don't care who this guy fucks any more than I cared who Clinton fucked, as long as it's not my girlfriend.

Clinton could fuck my girlfriend if he wanted, though. I'd be cool with that.

WarPhalange
12th July 07, 02:20 AM
Clinton could fuck my girlfriend if he wanted, though. I'd be cool with that.

You wouldn't have a say in the matter. In fact, he would want you to refuse permission. It just makes him hotter.

Sun Wukong
12th July 07, 04:06 AM
Louisiana is the only state Illinoisans officially recognize as a contender in the Corruption Stakes. Nobody else is brazen enough to come close to us.

We should have a Louisiana v. Illinois corruption contest. We must decide on rules. What am i saying? This is a political corruption contest, the rules wouldn't matter anyway.

Zendetta
12th July 07, 05:33 PM
The number one law enforcement person in the nation lying under oath in court? You don't see a problem in this? A regular patrolman would have gotten fired for this.

I see plenty of problems in this and in many things Clintonian.

But the Whitewater investigation was about shoddy real estate dealings. Hypocritical, moralizing republicans (like the one mentioned in the OP) saw his marriage problems as a political tool, so they spent scads of money orchestrating a scenario in which he would perjure himself.

You make much of hypocrisy, but its becoming pretty apparent that you only care about it when the hypocrite has a Donkey pin on his jacket. There's a word for people with that kind of double standard. Hint: starts with an "H".

DISINGENUOUS PARTISANS LIKE YOU ARE FUCKING UP MY COUNTRY.

emboesso
12th July 07, 08:31 PM
Recognize hypocrisy - yes.

Ability to compare magnitude - obviously no.

Magnitude, eh? OK, let's talk *magnitude*.

A guy who got a "D" in Earth Science in college is private jetting around the planet espousing a scientific theory, a theory which BTW many were telling us in 1988 we only had 10 years left to change things or perish. We're still here.

But I digress. This guy basically wants every man, woman, and child in the world to change the way they live. He also wants every government in the world to oversee the re-tooling of virtually every bit of industry on the planet. All at a cost of an unimaginable number of trillions of dollars.

But this "D" student will not alter his own personal lifestyle one iota if it would cause him an ounce of inconvenience.

Same goes for Robert Kennedy Jr. and his private jets and SUVs. The same guy who wants windmills all over the place as an alternative source of energy, shot down a plan to do so off of Cape Cod because it would interfere with his view while yachting around.

So, on one hand we have two hypocrites who want the whole world to change ... except for themselves. On the other hand, we have one married guy who knocked off an unauthorized piece on the side.

Magnitude indeed,

emboesso
12th July 07, 08:52 PM
I see plenty of problems in this and in many things Clintonian.

But the Whitewater investigation was about shoddy real estate dealings. Hypocritical, moralizing republicans (like the one mentioned in the OP) saw his marriage problems as a political tool, so they spent scads of money orchestrating a scenario in which he would perjure himself.

That's not what happened at all.

The Paula Jones civil trial was a separate matter independent of the special prosecutor's investigation, until Clinton perjured himself under oath in his deposition.

*THEN* it came to the attention of the special prosecutor. Clinton went on to perjure himself again.

frumpleswift
12th July 07, 09:38 PM
Let's talk hypocrisy for a moment...


That's not what happened at all.

The Paula Jones civil trial was a separate matter independent of the special prosecutor's investigation, until Clinton perjured himself under oath in his deposition.

*THEN* it came to the attention of the special prosecutor. Clinton went on to perjure himself again.

So Clinton is the anti-christ for lying about having sex with Monica Lewinsky (an arguably irrelevant affair), even though he was acquitted...

so how do we feel about Republicans:


Before anyone starts throwing any molotovs...

Libby was not charged with or convicted of revealing Plame's identity. Fitzgerald knew early in the investigation it was Richard Armitage. Armitage admitted it to investigators and owned up to it under oath in court.

But Armitage was not charged with revealing Plame's identity. Why? Because Fitzgerald knew all along it was not a crime.

So Libby was charged with and convicted of lying to investigators about a crime that wasn't even a crime.

Investigations are supposed to be conducted into crimes, not fishing expeditions to see if you can catch people in lies. It addition to knowing there was no underlying crime, Fitzgerald also waited ages to tell Karl Rove he was off the hook, keeping the media frenzy alive.

And I'm being generous to prosecutors to even call them "lies". A man in Libby's position is not likely to remember the contents of the dozens and dozens of topics discussed daily. It is absurd.

Yeah, that's a big head you guys got on the wall there.

but Libby is okay...because the stuff Fitzgerald was investigating wasn't that big of a deal? Even though he was actually convicted of obstruction of justice and perjury?

I realize that Clinton probably did not forget abot his blow job, and that he is bigger fish than Libby, but come fucking on...

-----------------------

Incidently...Fred Thompson voted against conviction, as did Chaffee, Specter and 7 other Republican Senators.

Zendetta
12th July 07, 09:48 PM
Whereas Joe Leiberman denounced Clinton.

frumpleswift
12th July 07, 09:57 PM
Whereas Joe Leiberman denounced Clinton.

Denounced maybe, he did not, however, find him guilty of any of the impeachment charges.

Zendetta
12th July 07, 10:07 PM
He's still a douchebag!

frumpleswift
12th July 07, 10:11 PM
He's still a douchebag!

Well...yes. I never thought that was up for debate.

but what do you expect from a lord of the Sith?

http://www.infosecplace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/images/palpatine_lieberman.jpg

Quikfeet509
13th July 07, 12:44 AM
Magnitude, eh? OK, let's talk *magnitude*.

A guy who got a "D" in Earth Science in college is private jetting around the planet espousing a scientific theory, a theory which BTW many were telling us in 1988 we only had 10 years left to change things or perish. We're still here.

But I digress. This guy basically wants every man, woman, and child in the world to change the way they live. He also wants every government in the world to oversee the re-tooling of virtually every bit of industry on the planet. All at a cost of an unimaginable number of trillions of dollars.

But this "D" student will not alter his own personal lifestyle one iota if it would cause him an ounce of inconvenience.

Same goes for Robert Kennedy Jr. and his private jets and SUVs. The same guy who wants windmills all over the place as an alternative source of energy, shot down a plan to do so off of Cape Cod because it would interfere with his view while yachting around.

So, on one hand we have two hypocrites who want the whole world to change ... except for themselves. On the other hand, we have one married guy who knocked off an unauthorized piece on the side.

Magnitude indeed,


Amazing. Getting a D in Earth Science means Gore could not possibly learn anything in the interim between his college days and the present that relate in any way to the environment.


Now I understand that conservatives never have to change their opinion or world view in order to incorperate new facts, since everything is handed down to them in the form of the bible, but for the rest of us that are not born into an environment where everyone already knows everything, we tend to screw up in our youth. We then take those errors of behavior and academics and then improve upon them. We look at patterns in the world and realize that our previous perception of the world might not be what we thought it was. And yes, we might even excel in a field later in life that we struggled with previously...or perhaps we rocked in the subject but where too drunk to go to class...whatever.

emboesso
13th July 07, 05:20 AM
Let's talk hypocrisy for a moment...



There was no underlying crime in the Libby case when the special prosecutor was investigating him. Fitzgerald was investigating something he knew not to be a crime, so by interrogating people all he was doing was setting perjury traps.

In the Clinton case, there already was an underlying crime; the perjury in the Paula Jones civil case. And he was not completely acquitted. The judge in the Paula Jones case found him to be in contempt of court and he has been disbarred as an attorney in Arkansas.

Libby's conviction stands, he lost his job, and he was not the de-facto highest ranking law enforcement official in the country.

Apples, oranges.

Sun Wukong
13th July 07, 06:06 AM
It's only not a crime because a NOC doesn't isn't officially a covert operative, but she WAS a covert operative just by being a NOC.

Outing her, while not a crime, counter acts the efforts of the CIA and is highly worthy of an investigation. It wasn't a trap, it was finding holes in the highest levels of secrecy within our own espionage community.

emboesso
13th July 07, 06:23 AM
It's only not a crime because a NOC doesn't isn't officially a covert operative, but she WAS a covert operative just by being a NOC.

Outing her, while not a crime, counter acts the efforts of the CIA and is highly worthy of an investigation. It wasn't a trap, it was finding holes in the highest levels of secrecy within our own espionage community.

If that's the case it would call for an internal investigation.

A special prosecutor, by definition, prosecutes *crimes*. Right from the start of the investigation, the person who *wrote* the law in question, Victoria Toensing, said the law had not been violated.

Sun Wukong
13th July 07, 07:26 AM
If that's the case it would call for an internal investigation.

A special prosecutor, by definition, prosecutes *crimes*. Right from the start of the investigation, the person who *wrote* the law in question, Victoria Toensing, said the law had not been violated.
OK, but during the internal investigation he lied to the FBI. Which, is a crime. BTW, the FBI are (edit: some of) the people that are used to determine where breaches of security occur and if any crimes have been commited within the CIA.


That in and of itself makes a crime, where there was none before. Lying to the FBI= CRIMINAL. The FBI answers to federal district attorneys too.

Edit: I still don't see why you think Plame's status as a NOC isn't important but getting a BJ in the oval office is.

Dagon Akujin
13th July 07, 02:04 PM
I thought the reason the outing of Plame was not a crime was because, according to the VP, the VP gets to decide if someone is undercover or not.

That was the logic used by the VP's office and talked about on conservative radio. "It's not a crime for Cheney to out an undercover agent because he gets t decide who is undercover in the first place." Or something like that.

I just want to make sure I have all of your points clear though, emb.

#1: When Democrats have affairs it proves they are low-life philanderers.
#2: When Republicans have affairs it doesn't mean they can't do their job well.
#3: When Democrats lie in court it proves they are unfit for their job.
#4: When Republicans lie in court it proves that Democrats are just trying to trick them.
#5: When Democrats break the law they are un-American.
#6: When Republicans break the law it's for national security and to fight the terrorists.
#7: When Democrats point to 1000 scientists who agree on something, they can be disproven when the Republicans can point to 2 who disagree.
#8: When a Democrat puts pork into a bill it's destroying the country and ruining the economy with debt.
#9: When a Republican sends us trillions of dollars into debt, debt doesn't matter.
#10: Democrats who do not support the war are traitors and peace-nik hippies.
#11: Republicans who want to use nukes and torture while suspending the rule of law are patriots and not war-mongerers.
#12: Democrats who fight are not heroes and do not deserve any awards they receive.
#13: Republicans who refuse to fight or have their daddy get them out of battle or service are not chicken-hawks, but are Real American Heroes.

What else do you have? I'm trying to learn here and want to have my facts in the correct order.

Dagon

frumpleswift
13th July 07, 05:22 PM
#14 When democrats use cloture votes and filibusters to prevent legislation, they are impeding progress.
#15 When republicans use cloture votes and filibusters they are defending our freedoms
#16 When immigration reform fails due to republican stall techniques it is the democrats fault for being weak leaders:

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush accused Democratic lawmakers on Saturday of being unable to live up to their duties, citing Congress' inability to pass legislation to fund the federal government.

"Democrats are failing in their responsibility to make tough decisions and spend the people's money wisely," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "This moment is a test."

The White House has said the failure of a broad immigration overhaul was proof that Democratic-controlled Capitol Hill cannot take on major issues. "We saw this with immigration, and we're seeing it with some other issues where Congress is having an inability to take on major challenges," said spokesman Tony Fratto.
#17 When Democrats propose strikes on Al Qaeda targets, they are ignored as unimportant
#18 When Al Qaeda strikes the U.S., Democrats are blamed for being weak on terror, and not doing enough to stop thrrorists.