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DerAuslander108
10th May 07, 03:40 PM
CHILD PORN SCANTILY DISGUISED AS ART?
Photos of preteen girls in thongs now big business

By JUN HONGO
Staff writer
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/images/photos2007/nn20070503f1a.jpg
Asuka Izumi was modeling for a DVD in July 2005 when the director asked her to put on a string bikini. She was just 12 years old.

Asuka Izumi, a "T-back junior idol," and her mother, Kotomi, pose with one of Izumi's photo books. YOSHIAKI MIURA PHOTO

She agreed to pose in the sexy bathing suit and now, nearly two years later, that DVD is credited with starting the popularity of "T-back junior idols."

Izumi, now 14, went on to pose in thong bikinis in four photo books and several DVDs. She looks back on that first time in a revealing bikini and said she had no reason not to do it.

"It wasn't a big deal. The director asked me to do it, and I did it because I wanted to," Izumi, who is still in junior high school but has appeared before the camera as a child model since she was 1 1/2 years old, said during a recent interview with The Japan Times.

From pornographic animation to raunchy dolls, Japan leads the world in eccentric products and media that sometime push the boundaries of what people consider to be decent — or even legal.

This latest trend of preteen girls striking provocative poses in slinky bathing suits has some people questioning whether this is child pornography and if the parents are actually selling their children for sex.

The large number of shops with Junior Idol and U-15 (Under 15) signs in Tokyo's Akihabara district, the country's subculture capital, is just one indication of how quickly the new market has grown.

The controversial industry has been reluctant to reveal figures, but reports suggest that more than 3 million photo books were sold in the past year alone.

Junior idol DVDs and photo books are commonly sold right next to hard-core pornography, and two years since Izumi's DVD, the models have grown even younger. Last month, 9-year-old Rei Asamizu appeared in "Melty Pudding," a photo book that includes shots of the little girl lying on a bed wet in a thong bikini.

Although there is no full nudity, the scantily clad children are often pictured seductively blowing on the end of a flute or licking an ice cream cone.

Koji Maruta, the author of "Enko-shojo To Loli-con Otoko" ("Girls Who Sell Sex and Men with Lolita Complex" — a reference to Vladamir Nabokov's novel "Lolita" about pedophilia), said that unlike in the West, Japan has tended to be more open about sex and sex culture.

"Japan has slowly been implementing legal measures against child pornography, but the ambience, culture and religion of the country makes people less uncomfortable about such issues compared with Western societies," said Maruta, who is also a lecturer in the international communications department at Okinawa University.

Maruta said "enjo kosai" (compensated dating) and "burusera" (sales of schoolgirls' used underwear) appear to have gone out of vogue, but there is still a huge market of men with fetishes and they are behind the recent outburst of semipornographic photo books and DVDs.

The industry, made up of many small, independent publishers and video companies, is in a legal gray zone as the law on child pornography is open to interpretation.

The Law Banning Child Prostitution and Pornography, enacted in 1999, defines child pornography as any image of a child under 18 years old "naked or partially naked, which is sexually stimulating."

The second article in the U.N.'s Optional Protocol on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution and Child Pornography, which Japan signed in 2002, defines child pornography as "any representation, by whatever means, of real or simulated explicit sexual activities or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes," and requires signatories to have laws banning such material.

However, Keiji Watanabe of the Publishers Ethics Committee of the Japan Magazine Publishers' Association said it is not easy to determine when an image crosses the line from art to child pornography.

Watanabe opposes the trend of raunchy photo books, saying that under no circumstance should a child be involved in explicit sexual products. His committee checks bookstores for inappropriate publications and has issued warnings to publishers of pornographic comic books.

It is "especially" vigilant on child pornography, Watanabe said, adding the panel warns shops and creators of such material.

However, the ethics committee has had problems finding the small, back-street publishers that are the main source of junior idol material. In addition, it does not have the legal authority to stop the sale of such material, Watanabe said.

"It's tricky for us — and police — to draw the line and have criteria" on what constitutes pornographic material, he said.

Police have seized books that show a preteen girl's nipple, but the junior idol material, while provocative, is not this revealing, he said.

Shinkosha Co., which published Asuka Izumi's photo books and other materials, declined comment on the issue when reached by telephone.

But regarding the media tagging as pornographic, junior idol Asuka Izumi and her mother, Kotomi, 37, who manages her daughter's activities, said they had no issues with how the photo books "sexually arouse" adult men.

"I don't have a problem with my daughter wearing a thong at her age," the mother, a former model, said, describing her daughter's body as having a "neutral, sexless beauty" that only a premature girl can possess.

She said she once found her daughter's work displayed in a hardcore porn shop in Tokyo's Kabukicho district, but it didn't bother her.

"I feel that anyone who buys Asuka's work has the right to do whatever they want to do with it," she said.

She said she is not taking commercial advantage of her daughter, but merely attempting to help the 14-year-old be successful in what she wants to do.

But she also revealed there are things that some industry people want to keep secret.

"The industry doesn't want me to talk about the details of what's going on behind closed doors," she said.

But she hinted that she has seen some mothers forcing their crying children to put on sexy swimsuits for the camera.

"Many in the industry feel that the junior idol boom was intended to be an underground trend," she said. "It was never meant to be accepted by the masses like it is now."

Click here for article. (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070503f1.html)

I wasn't aware that enjo kosai had fallen out of fashion. Might as well cancel my next trip to Tokyo.

Having actually seen some of these photobooks (no, FBI, I did not purchase or download them), it's actually pretty disturbing. There's no nudity or anything of that nature, but if you wanna deny that these girls aren't being portrayed in a sexual manner, then you're full of it.

Course, the Japanese only banned child pornography in 1999. Everyone's favorite school girl from Kill Bill put out a nude photobook back when she was 13.

No, I do not own a copy.

WarPhalange
10th May 07, 05:05 PM
I'm glad I stopped studying Japanese. The more I hear about the country, the more f-ed up it turns out to be.

Stick
10th May 07, 05:20 PM
This is silly, especially how the thread/article is titled "Japanese Now into Scantily Clad School Girls"..... because apparently this is a new developement?

You're kidding, right?

School girl hookers, yeah, those were all over the place.

DerAuslander108
10th May 07, 05:32 PM
Dude, that was my title. Hello, Sarcasm. The T-back pre-teen photobooks is a new phenomenon...unless you count the completely nude books of the 80s & 90s.

And yeah, you did get my comment about enjo kosai, right?

Ever see the movie "Bounce, Kogal"?

Zendetta
10th May 07, 05:42 PM
I think this is a function of the nukes we dropped on 'em in WW2 - either too much, or not enough.

Mr. Jones
10th May 07, 07:10 PM
This is an excellent article. You would think that Japan would be embarrased for itself after 13 year old nude photgraphs of Chiaki Kuriyama. It's really disgusting. Theres no nudity like Kuriyama's photos but it's very sexual. To normal people it's just a kid eating a popsickle but to pedophiles it isn't. I ripped on this 34 year old guy leaving a comment that this 12 year old is so hot. Can't we all just drool over Maria Ozawa?

DerAuslander108
10th May 07, 08:15 PM
Meh. Chiaki said she wasn't ashamed of anything she'd done in the past.

You can keep Maria Ozawa.

I'll take Kyoko Fukada.

Question!
10th May 07, 10:45 PM
I'm sure most of us here read Gaijin Smash, right?

Steve
10th May 07, 10:54 PM
Yeah, it's pretty funny.

Question!
10th May 07, 11:45 PM
Well if you have, then you know how he describes the way a lot of the schoolgirls dress.

DerAuslander108
10th May 07, 11:48 PM
He has a talent for writing, that's for sure.

Osiris
11th May 07, 02:15 AM
I think this is a function of the nukes we dropped on 'em in WW2 - either too much, or not enough.

Damnit, I usually make that joke.

But yeh, wtf is wrong with these people.

Steve
11th May 07, 02:20 AM
They're super friendly and don't care about how dirty the sex is?

Problem???

I'm talking about the over 18 crowd.

Matsufubu
11th May 07, 04:46 AM
In the hotel I work at we get lots of Japanese tourists. It's funny to think that the men would rather be having dinner with a 12 year old than their wives. I'll pull that one out of the hat if any of them ever complain.

Osiris
11th May 07, 05:35 AM
They're super friendly and don't care about how dirty the sex is?

Problem???

I'm talking about the over 18 crowd.

THEY AREN'T.

Truculent Sheep
11th May 07, 06:32 AM
There's something icky with lusting after someone who's still playing with Barbie. Mind you, that never stopped Bill Wyman.

MaverickZ
11th May 07, 10:03 AM
Os, seriously, stop changing your damn name.

Matt W.
11th May 07, 11:16 AM
But it's KAWAI, right? Right?

Umm, no. I mean, kawai is the cultural phenominon we are talking about here, but it's really just an excuse to sexualize children. I bet if you put up a picture of a 14 year old from one of those "photobooks" and a picture of a 20 year old, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. That's not a justification, that's part of the problem. Children shouldn't be made to look like adults for that very reason. It simply encourages people to sexualize them.

And the 9 yo? That's disgusting. (Even more so.)

Steve
11th May 07, 01:34 PM
THEY AREN'T.

Can't a guy make a lame joke?

And I second Maverick, where did Spider Baseball come from? I must have missed something over on Bullshido...

Mr. Jones
11th May 07, 01:38 PM
Do you teach kids at your Dojang Errant? Because I noticed that most people who don't like kids aren't as bothered by this kind of stuff.

MaverickZ
11th May 07, 02:49 PM
Do you teach kids at your Dojang Errant? Because I noticed that most people who don't like kids aren't as bothered by this kind of stuff.
Why won't you go away shitball.

Mr. Jones
11th May 07, 02:53 PM
What's so wrong with wanting to know if he teaches kids at his Dojang?

Kiko
11th May 07, 03:07 PM
Because anyone who isn't bothered by 'this kind of stuff' is either into it or lacking something as a human being. No, don't tell us which one you are, just ... be ignored.

Mr. Jones
11th May 07, 03:10 PM
Because anyone who isn't bothered by 'this kind of stuff' is either into it or lacking something as a human being. No, don't tell us which one you are, just ... be ignored.

I said "aren't as bothered." They are bothered just not as bothered as someone who likes kids.

MaverickZ
11th May 07, 04:32 PM
What's so wrong with wanting to know if he teaches kids at his Dojang?
You're a waste of human ingredients.

Thinkchair
12th May 07, 12:21 AM
Mr. Jones, I thought they banned you for six months.

Gezere
12th May 07, 08:52 AM
Mr. Jones, I thought they banned you for six months.
No only a week. However he is starting to make me regret it.

Gezere
12th May 07, 09:02 AM
Japan is known for weird shit and this stuff is old. I lost most of my photobooks in college (one containing a one time gf of mine) but I will say I thought i hit the jack pot as a teen with raging hormones. I loved all the crazy shit in Japan. Then again Europe isn't much better either.

Matsufubu
12th May 07, 12:06 PM
Would it be really bad taste to use the "This Thread Is Worthless Without Pics!" line?

AAAhmed46
12th May 07, 11:07 PM
That explains alot of stuff that happens in anime..........

Mr. Jones
13th May 07, 12:09 AM
No only a week. However he is starting to make me regret it.

Okay, okay I'll cut it out.

frumpleswift
13th May 07, 07:58 PM
Hrmm...scantily clad school girls? What did Danny Elfman have to say about them again?

jItz-uNjoZA

AAAhmed46
13th May 07, 08:01 PM
Hrmm...scantily clad school girls? What did Danny Elfman have to say about them again?

jItz-uNjoZA

Yuck, eighties music.

frumpleswift
13th May 07, 08:07 PM
Yuck, eighties music.

Sacrilege.

ironlurker
13th May 07, 10:12 PM
Then again Europe isn't much better either.
In college I remember this big conversation at a party with a French girl. We were all talking about sex and she said, "Oh I like sex, but there's things people like that I won't do." And everyone goes, "oh yeah? whut?" thinking it's oral or something she's talking about, to which she responds "la scatologie"


Cette Pratique consiste à déféquer sur son partenaire, à manipuler, lécher, mâcher voire manger ses propres excréments ou ceux de son partenaire et à s'en recouvrir le corps ou les parties génitales en éprouvant une forte excitation sexuelle. Cette pratique extrême demeure très marginale en dépit de son développement important dans le domaine des photos et vidéos pornographiques (surtout par le biais d'Internet). http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatologie
:tinfoil:

mrblackmagic
14th May 07, 05:48 PM
Meh. Chiaki said she wasn't ashamed of anything she'd done in the past.

You can keep Maria Ozawa.

I'll take Kyoko Fukada.

I will then!

Sirc
19th May 07, 02:54 AM
Mr. Jones, you're a terrible terrible terrible poster. I think I'll run you out of sociocide as well as bullshido and hope that you just never come back.

I expect this kind of stuff from a society that has no soul.

Steve
19th May 07, 03:02 AM
Good luck.

Kiko
19th May 07, 05:16 AM
*hands out burning torches and pitchforks*

AAAhmed46
21st May 07, 01:56 AM
I want a pitch fork.

Torches are all flashy with no oomph.

DerAuslander108
21st May 07, 12:43 PM
Do you teach kids at your Dojang Errant? Because I noticed that most people who don't like kids aren't as bothered by this kind of stuff.

Yes, I teach kids.

The stories I could tell...

DerAuslander108
21st May 07, 12:45 PM
Japan is known for weird shit and this stuff is old. I lost most of my photobooks in college (one containing a one time gf of mine) but I will say I thought i hit the jack pot as a teen with raging hormones. I loved all the crazy shit in Japan. Then again Europe isn't much better either.

Hell yah dude. When that's what you're exposed to as a young brat...who needs to steal Playboys from the Shopette?

DerAuslander108
21st May 07, 12:46 PM
I will then!

Right now I'm all about Rie Komiya.

MaverickZ
21st May 07, 09:41 PM
NSFW (http://pics.livejournal.com/theseamster/pic/000k17s7)

AAAhmed46
21st May 07, 10:02 PM
Okay...so what about adult woman in japan?

Open doors?

billy sol hurok
22nd May 07, 10:26 AM
NSFW (http://pics.livejournal.com/theseamster/pic/000k17s7)

When I said I was looking for a point-n-shoot Linux distro, I didn't expect a sort of Japanese Inquisition . . .

nihilist
26th May 07, 04:07 AM
There's really nothing perverted about the Japanese.

http://www.artistic-realms.com/images/PEKACHUE.JPG

DAYoung
26th May 07, 04:42 AM
When I said I was looking for a point-n-shoot Linux distro, I didn't expect a sort of Japanese Inquisition . . .

Nobody expects the-

Oh.

There's one in every vending machine in Tokyo?

My mistake.

Mushimushi.

Carry on.

DAYoung
26th May 07, 04:43 AM
In college I remember this big conversation at a party with a French girl. We were all talking about sex and she said, "Oh I like sex, but there's things people like that I won't do." And everyone goes, "oh yeah? whut?" thinking it's oral or something she's talking about, to which she responds "la scatologie"

http://www.eudiriaque.com.br/scatman.jpg

Olorin
28th May 07, 10:21 PM
Bad! Bad Stanly Kubrick!

MbWRh_NA1Nk

And I'm keepin' an eye on you too Billy Idol

Ms_CgH86qHQ

Stick
28th May 07, 10:25 PM
Hool-a-hoop...... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss

Fuck you, Stanly Kubrick.

Never seen that movie or the remake with Jeremy Irons.

DAYoung
29th May 07, 12:46 AM
Hool-a-hoop...... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss

Fuck you, Stanly Kubrick.

Never seen that movie or the remake with Jeremy Irons.

The remake was very good.

Bloody disturbing, but good.

Olorin
29th May 07, 02:10 AM
The remake was very good.

Bloody disturbing, but good.

Whats so disturbing about a guy who married a woman just to molest her daughter?

You are so uptight...

PXODgNCvEe4

So very creepy...

.

DAYoung
29th May 07, 02:36 AM
I found the book far more disturbing - partly because you're in Hubert's psyche.

But still...

Ick.

billy sol hurok
29th May 07, 06:47 AM
Hool-a-hoop...... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss

Fuck you, Stanly Kubrick.

Never seen that movie or the remake with Jeremy Irons.
Haven't seen the remake, but Kubrick's version is notable for some outstanding performances, not the least of which is Peter Sellers as Clare Quilty. And never has the braying, blowsy Shelley Winters been put to greater use in any movie. Mason is outstanding too. A very ballsy movie to make in 1962.

As DAY has noted, the novel is far more unsettling though.