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Shawarma
13th April 07, 03:47 PM
From Al-Jazeera:

Turkish army calls for Iraq raid

The head of Turkey's army has called for a military operation in northern Iraq to target its Kurdish rebels hiding there.

General Yasar Buyukanit, the head of the army's general staff, made the assessment on Thursday but said the army had not asked parliament to authorise any such operation.

"From the military point of view, a [military] operation in northern Iraq must be made," Buyukanit said.

"The PKK has huge freedom of movement in Iraq... It has spread its roots in Iraq."

However Buyukanit said that even if the military favoured such an operation, it would have to be authorised by the government.

"If you ask me whether a cross-border operation is needed, yes it is needed. It would be useful," the general told a rare press conference.

"But there is a second dimension to that: it requires a political decision."

Base for attacks

Buyukanit also said that the Turkish army was already conducting substantial operations against PKK members in Turkey.

"There are several large-scale operations under way in several areas," Buyukanit told reporters.

"Our aim is to prevent them from taking positions in the region with the coming spring."

For years Turkey has urged the Iraq's national government, the Kurdish regional government and US-led forces in the country to tackle the estimated 4,000 rebels from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) who shelter in Kurdish-ruled northern Iraq.

Ankara has said it reserves the right under international law to send troops into northern Iraq to fight the PKK if Iraq and Washington continue to disregard its calls for action.

The US reacted negatively to Buyukanit's comments.

"Ideally you do not have to resort to cross-border operations. That is not an appealing option," said Sean McCormack, US state department spokesman.

"Certainly that is an option that everyone should work to avoid."

Intelligence reports

Political analysts say Turkey is unlikely to mount a full-blown invasion of northern Iraq, but could authorise cross-border commando operations or air raids against PKK targets.

Massoud Barzani, leader of Iraq's Kurdish population, recently commented that Iraqi Kurds would interfere in Turkey's mainly Kurdish cities if Ankara interfered in northern Iraq, drawing anger from Ankara.

Buyukanit also said Turkey's military had received intelligence that Kurdish guerrillas would step up their activities in Turkey from May.

He said 10 members of the armed forces had been killed in clashes with PKK fighters in recent days during a military offensive in southeast Turkey, with 29 PKK members killed during the same period.

More than 30,000 people have been killed since the PKK launched its armed struggle to win greater civil rights and regional autonomy for Turkey's Kurdish minority in 1984.





This could be interesting. As if Iraq wasn't messed up enough as it is, now they may have to deal with an open small-scale war between the Kurds in the north and the Turks. And with Kurds being strongly represented in the Iraqi parliament, who knows what official policies Iraq might make towards their neighbour?

And to think that some people actually advocate dividing Iraq into Sunniland, Shiatown and Kurdistan. Kurdistan would get bowled over in 5 seconds.

ICY
13th April 07, 04:12 PM
I think Kurdistan should be created out of Iraqi and Turkish territory, without regard for Turkey's desires.

Shawarma
13th April 07, 04:18 PM
You must really hate Kurds, because the Turks would lose their temper and annihilate everything vaguely Turkish in the region.

JimmyTheHutt
13th April 07, 04:36 PM
The Turks just don't want to face the consequences of years of oppression against ethnic Kurds inside their borders. Unfortunately, it looks like Kurdistan is going to happen and things are REALLY going to suck.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

ICY
13th April 07, 05:10 PM
You must really hate Kurds, because the Turks would lose their temper and annihilate everything vaguely Turkish in the region.

LOL

DJR
14th April 07, 02:54 AM
This could be interesting. As if Iraq wasn't messed up enough as it is, now they may have to deal with an open small-scale war between the Kurds in the north and the Turks.

Funny how the US government was so worried about the Kurds in Iraq (well, at least after Hussein was no longer useful - they were fine with him gassing them in the 1980s), but seems to not give a rat's ass about the Kurds in Turkey.

The Turkish military displaced at least a million Kurds during the war with the PKK in the 1980s and 90s, and remained a major recipent of US military aid the whole time. Hussein treated the Kurds like shit, but at least he recognized their existence as a people and allowed their language to be used in the media. Turkey wouldn't even allow Kurdish language media until the late 1990s, and frequently arrested people for such 'crimes' as asserting Kurdish identity, distributing Kurdish music, etc. The largest single population of Kurds actually lives in Turkey, maybe as many as 15 or 20 million people.

Shawarma
14th April 07, 04:10 AM
It should really be noted that the Kurds are by no means blameless themselves. The PKK may be a legitimate political movement, but it is also a terrorist organization with a lot of lives on its conscience.

Anyone know why Kurds are so despised by everybody?

Judah Maccabee
14th April 07, 11:24 AM
Maybe Kurd is Turkish for Jew.

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Moreso than the Armenian Genocide thing or latent culturalism against a Muslim-oriented, something like small- or full-scale attacks into Iraq will derail any chance of Turkey making it into the EU.

ICY
14th April 07, 12:55 PM
[email protected] racist EU EVER letting Turkey in.

Shawarma
14th April 07, 01:24 PM
The EU, being not only a financial alliance but also a social and value-based one, has no place in it for Turkey with its death penalty, suppression of free speech regarding Atatürk and opression of ethnic minorities. Oh, and countless impoverished infidel darkskins that would doubtless storm northwards in order to improve their lives, but that's usually never said out loud.

I read an interesting take on this: Let Turkey invade Iraq. All of it, let them occupy it and brutalize the shit out of the populace. They'd do a much better job at keeping the place stable than the Yanks are. It's a pretty naivistic solution, but an interesting one nevertheless.

DJR
14th April 07, 02:41 PM
It should really be noted that the Kurds are by no means blameless themselves. The PKK may be a legitimate political movement, but it is also a terrorist organization with a lot of lives on its conscience.

Anyone know why Kurds are so despised by everybody?

The PKK has indeed done some unsavoury things, but it should be noted that Turkish suppression of Kurdish identity started way before the PKK. I think Kennedy's quote that "If you make peaceful change impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable" [paraphrased] is applicable to this situation.

I think the reason the Kurds take so much shit is that they have the misfortune of living on land that other countries around them want. In Turkey, a lot of the problem is that the post-Ottoman Empire Turkish state is based on an idea of Turkish ethnic identity that doesn't apply to Kurds. Kurds speak a language totally unrelated to Turkish or Arabic, and have been living in Anatolia since well before the Turks arrived. If the rationale for the geographic boundaries of the modern Turkish republic is that 'it's where Turks live,' then admitting that most of the South East of Turkey is inhabited by non-Turkish people becomes a problem. Turkey's solution for most of the 20th century was to deny that Kurds existed, and to suppress them any time they asserted their identity or sought political autonomy. They're also very worried about a Kurdish state arising in Iraq, because of the example/precedent it might set for Turkey's own Kurdish population.