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DAYoung
28th December 06, 06:15 AM
There's a war brewing, but taste is still the loser on America's coffee front

Mark Coultan, New York
December 27, 2006

http://www.havana.co.nz/htmlsite/images/espresso.jpgALMOST every American car has coffee-cup holders. In some cars there's one for every passenger. Standard equipment really.

Walk down the street in New York or the business district of almost any US city and you'll see people carrying coffees.

America has been obsessed with coffee for many years. Heavens knows why, because, to put not too fine a point on it, most coffee in America is rubbish.

Even in New York, which has a strong Italian heritage, most cafes and diners serve bottomless, and hopeless, cups of coffee. Even in expensive restaurants the coffee is awful.

The New York Times ran a story on what they termed artisanal coffee in Australian terms, a decent espresso and managed to mention only four cafes.

This helps explain the success of Starbucks, the coffee shop that has conquered America. No matter what you think of Starbucks' coffee, it must seem pretty good if you have grown up on the stale, overbrewed liquid that sits reheating all day.

Coffee is the sort of product that companies dream about. It's a stimulant, it's addictive, and it's legal. And it probably adds about 2 per cent to gross domestic product each year.

Coffee is big business, and other chains have been forced to lift their game as Starbucks has garnered an increasing share of the customers' caffeine (and cake) budget.

Americans consume 90 litres of coffee per person per year, which is more than the amount of beer they drink. And increasingly it's premium coffees. Maxwell House, by contrast, has lost 20 per cent of its supermarket sales in the past two years.

Starbucks can be thanked for raising the game. McDonald's has introduced a premium roast coffee, and even 7-Eleven stores have upped their game. But the real coffee war is between Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks. This could be termed the war between coffee on the go and coffee savoured.

Dunkin' Donuts' slogan is "America runs on Dunkin"', suggesting that coffee is a fuel. For Starbucks, coffee is a lifestyle.

Starbucks has almost 7800 stores in the US, Dunkin' Donuts nearly 5000. Starbucks serves 4 millions cups a day, Dunkin' Donuts 2.7 million.

Starbucks started in Seattle, in the far north-west of the US, and spread around the world. Dunkin' Donuts began in Quincy, Massachusetts, in the far north-east. That is 3000 kilometres apart, and so are their customers.

According to a story in The Wall Street Journal, Dunkin' Donuts commissioned market research in which it paid Starbucks customers $100 a week to go to Dunkin' Donuts, and their own customers the same amount to patronise Starbucks. They found that the people who went to Starbucks were very different from the type who went to Dunkin' Donuts.

Starbucks customers want to stand out from the crowd. Dunkin' Donuts people can't see any reason why they should pay $4 for a coffee. They see it as pretentious and trendy, while Starbuckers think Dunkin' Donuts stores are austere and unoriginal.

As quoted by The Wall Street Journal, one Dunkin' Donuts regular told researchers after visiting Starbucks: "I don't get it. If I want to sit on a couch, I stay at home."

So you might think these chains have their customer bases and aren't really in competition with each other. Not so.

Dunkin' Donuts is turning itself from a calorie house into caffeine central. (Almost two-thirds of its sales are coffee.) Dunkin' Donuts has plans to triple its stores to 15,000. Starbucks is busy adding "drive-throughs" to its stores, catering to those who just don't feel comfortable unless they have a cup of coffee in one hand and the steering wheel of an SUV in the other.

Personally, I don't care. I just want someone in this country to offer a good flat white.

Link here (http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/theres-a-war-brewing-but-taste-is-still-the-loser-on-americascoffee-front/2006/12/26/1166895296728.html).

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I haven't been to America, so I'm no judge here. But if this is true, it's pathetic. The world's first coffee house opened in the Ottoman Empire, which lasted six hundred years. Coincidence? I think not.

America, if you want to really shape the New American Century, you'll need to give your filthy 'cup of Joe' a makeover. I suggest you stop thinking of it as fuel for the depleted capitalist tools that are your bodies and minds, and start treating it as an invitation for intrinsically-rewarding aesthetic experiences.

THE EMPIRE NEEDS YOU.

MEGA JESUS-SAMA
28th December 06, 06:24 AM
coffee sucks

ICY
28th December 06, 06:49 AM
Buttfucks is for fags, Dunkin Donuts is for fatasses.

Tim Horton's FTW


I suggest you stop thinking of it as fuel for the depleted capitalist tools that are your bodies and minds, and start treating it as an invitation for intrinsically-rewarding aesthetic experiences.

It's just not that great a drink, IMO. It is a fuel, not an "experience". I mean the really good coffee=decent drink, and that's all, decent. Not spectacular. Decent.

Yiktin Voxbane
28th December 06, 07:13 AM
Moccona for when time does not allow me to brew a pot , but I prefer the ... Taste ... Feel ... Asthetics and finally the Aromatics of a brewed coffee .

billy sol hurok
28th December 06, 07:51 AM
I haven't been to America, so I'm no judge here. But if this is true, it's pathetic. The world's first coffee house opened in the Ottoman Empire, which lasted six hundred years. Coincidence? I think not.


Look pal, you drink TEA. I won't be lectured, second-hand, by your ilk.


America, if you want to really shape the New American Century, you'll need to give your filthy 'cup of Joe' a makeover.
Boobjob/lipo/rhinoplasty? So my "filthy 'cup of Joe'" can look like everyone else's?


I suggest you stop thinking of it as fuel for the depleted capitalist tools that are your bodies and minds,
I gotcher depleted capitalist tool RIGHT HERE, MAC! [indicates groin area]


and start treating it as an invitation for intrinsically-rewarding aesthetic experiences.
I gotcher intrinsically-rewarding* aesthetic experience RIGHT HERE, MAC! [op cit]


THE EMPIRE NEEDS YOU.
The "empire" is in big fucking trouble, then.

Okay, I'll admit it. I brew my java a gallon at a time, then nuke it up by the cup as needed over the following several days. Which, I feel safe in saying, solidifies my cred as a heathen. (Yet oddly, I avoid making it with tap water whenever possible . . . ruins the flavor. Seriously.)

In short, a cup of joe is a commodity, not a vagina, Madame.

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*And erroneously hyphenated!

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 08:50 AM
American coffee sucks balls. I prefer a European roast. Like actually imported from europe in nice freeze-dried bricks. Not this American burnt crap.

However, American coffee is far better than Australian beer, so you can take your cliched anti-americanism and shove it.

ICY
28th December 06, 08:58 AM
...while American beer is worse than Australian piss, so...

Artful Dentures
28th December 06, 09:20 AM
Buttfucks is for fags, Dunkin Donuts is for fatasses.

Tim Horton's FTW



Cracky's correct

Tim Horton's coffee rocks although I have a theory that that put liquefied crack in it to make it more addictive.

Starbucks is so shitty I am shocked that they even exist. Although their Chai Tea Latte is decent if not a little too sweet.

Yiktin Voxbane
28th December 06, 10:44 AM
FOSTERS ....

An australian joke played upon the rest of the world.

Seriously FOUL beer .

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 10:55 AM
...while American beer is worse than Australian piss, so...

I thought American beer was Australian piss...or at least the bottled piss of very inebriated men.

Neildo
28th December 06, 11:52 AM
http://neildato.googlepages.com/Starbuckslogo.jpg

Odacon
28th December 06, 12:03 PM
Coffee tastes like burnt toast. Or even, burdent toast.

mysteryninja
28th December 06, 12:32 PM
STarbucks coffee is not very good. You have to try Dunkin Donuts

ThaiBoxerShorts
28th December 06, 12:38 PM
I hate coffee. Always have. I never considered it before, but perhaps geography is the reason: I had the misfortune of being born into the land of shitty coffee.

Perhaps I'll give coffee a try next time I'm travelling abroad.

Maybe.

Probably not.

Quikfeet509
28th December 06, 12:58 PM
I thought Starbucks sucked until I tried to find coffee in China [I prefer Tully's in Seattle to Starbucks]:


Nescafe isn't fucking coffee. Quit putting it on your god damn menus as coffee. Fucking Chinese assclowns. And it isn't fucking espresso if you take Nescafe and run it through an espresso machine. It's still craptastic instant coffee. I hope you malcontents all kill each other.

Neildo
28th December 06, 01:02 PM
I hear you Quikfeet. Trying to get a decent cup of coffee in the Philippines was an exercise in futility. I managed to get used to that 3-in-1 instant shit.

I don't drink coffee anymore. In fact, i'm going to go get some more green tea, right now.

Letum
28th December 06, 01:38 PM
I've learnt to generally expect a lack of delicacy and truly artful culture outside of Europe anyway.

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 01:45 PM
I've learnt to generally expect a lack of delicacy and truly artful culture outside of Europe anyway.

For coffee beer and wine you speak truth. However, I'm not sure how much further you could extend that statement.

Stick
28th December 06, 02:24 PM
Coffee is vile regardless of its country of origin. It is the hemorrhagic excrement of some long forgotten demon-beast used by many to awaken themselves through exposure to sheer putridity. This is true of all coffee, not just American coffee; Japanese coffee, Australian coffee, all manner and breed of European coffee- it is all unmistakably disgusting and unworthy of consumption.

Any person, establishment, city, or country that takes pride in its coffee should be shot, demolished, carpet bombed, or introduced to the business end of an intercontinental ballistic missile with a fucking hydrogen bomb payload.

DAYoung, you get a neg rep for this horrid fucking thread.

WarPhalange
28th December 06, 02:26 PM
coffee sucks

Agreed.

Cassius
28th December 06, 02:41 PM
I don't like coffee much, but Plume's in Monterey has really good Chai. Their coffee tastes pretty good as well, but I'd rather spend my money on something I enjoy more.

Like whores.

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 03:17 PM
I don't like coffee much, but Plume's in Monterey has really good Chai. Their coffee tastes pretty good as well, but I'd rather spend my money on something I enjoy more.

Like whores.

I really hope you spend more on your whores than you do on your coffee.

Artful Dentures
28th December 06, 03:18 PM
I don't like coffee much, but Plume's in Monterey has really good Chai. Their coffee tastes pretty good as well, but I'd rather spend my money on something I enjoy more.

Like whores.

Have some coffee beer/ porter

http://millstreetbrewery.com/coffee_bottle_3inch.jpg

http://millstreetbrewery.com/beers_coffeeporter.htm

NoMan
28th December 06, 03:26 PM
Best coffee I have had came from Germany. The brand is "Kronung", which was bought up by Kraft. The only downside is that this coffee will stain anything. Teeth, coffee pot, glasses, etc.

Cassius
28th December 06, 03:59 PM
I really hope you spend more on your whores than you do on your coffee.I'm always looking for a bargain.

Kiko
28th December 06, 04:12 PM
I like my coffee just fine, thank you. It's stronger than it should be, I need AND want it first thing in the morning. Starbucks is pretentious and overpriced. Dunkin is oke, but I prefer my own at home. It says Columbian or Dark Roast or some such on the bag. Holiday blend works too.

Oh, and.... Small, Medium or Large? (http://www.illwillpress.com/sml.html)

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 05:43 PM
I'm always looking for a bargain.

If by bargin you mean syphillis then I think a five-dollar crack whore is just the bargain you are looking for.

DAYoung
28th December 06, 05:45 PM
Look pal, you drink TEA. I won't be lectured, second-hand, by your ilk.


Boobjob/lipo/rhinoplasty? So my "filthy 'cup of Joe'" can look like everyone else's?


I gotcher depleted capitalist tool RIGHT HERE, MAC! [indicates groin area]


I gotcher intrinsically-rewarding* aesthetic experience RIGHT HERE, MAC! [op cit]


The "empire" is in big fucking trouble, then.

Okay, I'll admit it. I brew my java a gallon at a time, then nuke it up by the cup as needed over the following several days. Which, I feel safe in saying, solidifies my cred as a heathen. (Yet oddly, I avoid making it with tap water whenever possible . . . ruins the flavor. Seriously.)

In short, a cup of joe is a commodity, not a vagina, Madame.

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*And erroneously hyphenated!

Nice, as always.

It's a little odd that you keep your coffee in your pants. Is that like a cheap Viagra? So you're impotent AND a miser?

Cassius
28th December 06, 05:45 PM
Us Southerners think alike.

DAYoung
28th December 06, 05:46 PM
American coffee sucks balls. I prefer a European roast. Like actually imported from europe in nice freeze-dried bricks. Not this American burnt crap.

However, American coffee is far better than Australian beer, so you can take your cliched anti-americanism and shove it.

American coffee's better than Australian beer?

Huh? Wha? Bah?

You're not making any sense. Have you been taking Dai Tenshi lessons?

DAYoung
28th December 06, 05:47 PM
Coffee is vile regardless of its country of origin. It is the hemorrhagic excrement of some long forgotten demon-beast used by many to awaken themselves through exposure to sheer putridity. This is true of all coffee, not just American coffee; Japanese coffee, Australian coffee, all manner and breed of European coffee- it is all unmistakably disgusting and unworthy of consumption.

Any person, establishment, city, or country that takes pride in its coffee should be shot, demolished, carpet bombed, or introduced to the business end of an intercontinental ballistic missile with a fucking hydrogen bomb payload.

DAYoung, you get a neg rep for this horrid fucking thread.

You are such a whiny little sook. Do you get your Mum to cut off your crusts?

Little man, coffee is like art - by appreciating it, you demonstrate your citizenship in the civilized world.

DAYoung
28th December 06, 06:22 PM
MEGA JESUS-SAN, Poop Loops and Dai Tenshi: drinking soda in the sandpit of culinary life.

bob
28th December 06, 07:12 PM
I pretty much hated coffee until I went to Spain and Italy and realised that I'd never drunk it.

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 07:36 PM
American coffee's better than Australian beer?

Huh? Wha? Bah?

You're not making any sense. Have you been taking Dai Tenshi lessons?

the great beverage chain of being:

instant coffee < american beer < piss < canadian beer < australian beer < american coffee < belgian beer < european coffee < german beer < ... < fine scotch

i am sure i left out a few details, but you get the idea

NSLightsOut
28th December 06, 07:45 PM
You are such a whiny little sook. Do you get your Mum to cut off your crusts?

Little man, coffee is like art - by appreciating it, you demonstrate your citizenship in the civilized world.

After all, the very concept of modern citizenship did evolve in the coffee houses of 18th century Europe....

Maybe this is something to write a position paper on - a correlation between good citizenship and coffee quality. Hmmm.



the great beverage chain of being:

instant coffee < american beer < piss < canadian beer < australian beer < american coffee < belgian beer < european coffee < german beer < ... < fine scotch

i am sure i left out a few details, but you get the idea


The beverage chain should reflect that American coffee is one step above piss, and one large step below Canadian beer (unless at 5'o clock in the morning, when anything caffeinated is nectar of the gods) Belgian beer and German beer should be reversed, IMO

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 07:51 PM
After all, the very concept of modern citizenship did evolve in the coffee houses of 18th century Europe....

Maybe this is something to write a position paper on - a correlation between good citizenship and coffee quality. Hmmm.


Let's see, the Germans have the best coffee, and they've never been known to do anything uncivilized.



The beverage chain should reflect that American coffee is one step above piss, and one large step below Canadian beer (unless at 5'o clock in the morning, when anything caffeinated is nectar of the gods) Belgian beer and German beer should be reversed, IMO

I am inclined to agree with your assessment of American coffee, except that it is still better than canadian beer, or fosters or becks (if their are GOOD australian beers, I am unaware of them)

bob
28th December 06, 07:51 PM
Irish beer is on top, but only on tap in Ireland. Elsewhere it is mediocre.



http://www.thepublican.com/Pictures/web/p/i/d/Beer_Lao_High_Res_Image.jpg

^^^ This is the champion of the third world.

frumpleswift
28th December 06, 07:54 PM
Irish beer is good, but fine scotch is still the best. Beer wise, I'd say a good irish stout beats a German brew any day of the week.

Kiko
28th December 06, 07:55 PM
Wise. Distract 'em away from coffee with scotch!

Judah Maccabee
28th December 06, 08:01 PM
For people bashing Starbucks coffee - buy a half-pound of the Sumatra, brew it in a French press, and try it that way. If you still don't like it, then you hate Sbux coffee.

And as someone who worked at Starbucks and currently drinks plenty of Dunkin Donuts, Sbux is far better; especially since DD doesn't remake coffee as fast as Sbux does. The only way you're paying $4 for coffee is if you get a latte, which at that point, you're drinking 2 espresso shots with 12-18oz of steamed milk.

Now, if I want to drink a gritty sludge, I'll go to a Turkish or Greek restaurant. Also, if I want a guaranteed bad cup of coffee, anything from a Latin American country will do the trick; too acid and citrus-y. Asian/African coffee is where it's at.

NSLightsOut
28th December 06, 08:09 PM
Let's see, the Germans have the best coffee, and they've never been known to do anything uncivilized.

I beg to differ. Italian and French coffee kicks ass. (And yes, the reign of terror is a case in point. Maybe this would in fact have a foregone conclusion)



I am inclined to agree with your assessment of American coffee, except that it is still better than canadian beer, or fosters or becks (if their are GOOD australian beers, I am unaware of them)

Try Coopers or Cascade in terms of the major brewers. Fosters is a) actually brewed in Canada (the Foster's sold in the states) and b) Drunk by very few, if any Australians, for a very good reason.

DAYoung
28th December 06, 09:03 PM
After all, the very concept of modern citizenship did evolve in the coffee houses of 18th century Europe....

Maybe this is something to write a position paper on - a correlation between good citizenship and coffee quality. Hmmm.

I think this is an excellent hypothesis. I can only see one possible flaw: Africa.

DAYoung
28th December 06, 09:04 PM
the great beverage chain of being:

instant coffee < american beer < piss < canadian beer < australian beer < american coffee < belgian beer < european coffee < german beer < ... < fine scotch

i am sure i left out a few details, but you get the idea

Plotinus drank Coopers (http://www.coopers.com.au/).

Cassius
28th December 06, 09:20 PM
the great beverage chain of being:

instant coffee < american beer < piss < canadian beer < australian beer < american coffee < belgian beer < european coffee < german beer < ... < fine scotch

i am sure i left out a few details, but you get the ideaYou ignore all the good American beer. Good American beer is easily up there with the best in the world from Belgium, Germany, Ireland, England, you name it. Bad American beer is . . . well . . . worse than bad beer everywhere else. What can I say? We do it to extremes, biotch.

billy sol hurok
28th December 06, 09:40 PM
It's a little odd that you keep your coffee in your pants. Is that like a cheap Viagra? So you're impotent AND a miser?
MeanMisterMustardsleepsintheparkshavesinthedarktri estosavepaper.

billy sol hurok
28th December 06, 09:44 PM
Bad American beer is . . . well . . . worse than bad beer everywhere else.
I'm struggling to come up with some counterexamples, having had some pretty shitty furrin' beer too.

Meanwhile, I guess we should start by agreeing on a baseline bad American beer for comparison's sake -- I'll start the bidding with Black Label. Feh.

kungfujew
28th December 06, 10:28 PM
Six pack natty-ice?

http://40ouncebeer.com/pics24/naturalice24.jpg

(bro rape reference: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8)

frumpleswift
29th December 06, 12:46 AM
Six pack natty-ice?

http://40ouncebeer.com/pics24/naturalice24.jpg

(bro rape reference: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8)

ah natty light... if normal american beer is pissed out alcohol, then natty light is pissed out american beer.

i tried that crap once in college, at the only frat party i ever went to (A E Pi oddly enough) and I decided getting drunk off rum and vodka in my dorm was vastly preferable to the alternative.

but if you really want to dredge the depths of alcoholic beverages, may i suggst:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b4/180px-Maddog2020.jpg

DAYoung
29th December 06, 01:19 AM
First (and only) time I've ever been really drunk.

http://www.minivodkaguy.com/ThorsHammer2New.jpg

bob
29th December 06, 01:35 AM
"Pure phallic imagery in a bottle!"

DAYoung
29th December 06, 01:49 AM
Now with more cigar, monolith, rifle and train.

bob
29th December 06, 01:50 AM
"You're Thor? I'm tho thore I can hardly pith!"

You can make up the beginning of the joke yourself.

Steve
29th December 06, 01:51 AM
"Pure phallic imagery in a bottle!"

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/forstevee/cock.jpg

bob
29th December 06, 02:04 AM
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/phallus.jpg

Steve
29th December 06, 02:07 AM
That's not a bottle.

But I see where you're going with it.

Cassius
29th December 06, 03:01 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/forstevee/cock.jpgThat shit is all over Monterey. Just another reason to fucking hate that city.

Cassius
29th December 06, 03:19 AM
YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE STARING ME IN THE FACE WHEN I'M TRYING TO HAVE A QUIET DRINK AT THE BAR? A BIG FUCKING DILDO! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CREATING A BOTTLE OF TEQUILA THAT SO PERFECTLY MIMICS ONE! IT REALLY IMPROVES MY MOOD TO SEE THAT THING AT EVERY GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING BAR I GO TO! HERE, EVERYONE HAVE A FUCKING DILDO! ON THE HOUSE! DILDOS, DILDOS, DILDOS FOR US ALL!

AGHHHHHHHAGHAHGHAAHHHHAGHHH!!!!!

DAYoung
29th December 06, 03:33 AM
Did you want ice with your drink?

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/bachelorette_2Ddot_2Dcom_1858_27470704_small.jpg

ICY
29th December 06, 06:01 AM
A friend brought over some nice dark roast coffee, I'm drinking it right now with Egg Nog in it (ran out of milk) but it's still pretty good, beats Tim Horton's.

DAYoung
29th December 06, 06:03 AM
A friend brought over some nice dark roast coffee, I'm drinking it right now with Egg Nog in it (ran out of milk) but it's still pretty good, beats Tim Horton's.

WHY CAN'T YOU BE MANLY AND ENJOY YOUR COFFEE LIKE YOU ENJOY YOUR MEN: BLACK AND STRONG.

frumpleswift
29th December 06, 10:30 AM
WHY CAN'T YOU BE MANLY AND ENJOY YOUR COFFEE LIKE YOU ENJOY YOUR MEN: BLACK AND STRONG.

Turkish Proverb:

Coffee should be black as night, strong as death, and sweet as love.

By my read this means it should be quite bitter...

Shawarma
29th December 06, 02:11 PM
I like my coffee like I like my women.

Ground up fine and put in the freezer.

frumpleswift
29th December 06, 02:12 PM
I like my coffee like I like my women.

Ground up fine and put in the freezer.

I thought you were not supposed to eat pork?

Shawarma
29th December 06, 02:18 PM
Longpig doesn't count as pork, and it's perfectly kosher/halal if I kill it right.

DAYoung
29th December 06, 06:44 PM
Turkish Proverb:

Coffee should be black as night, strong as death, and sweet as love.

By my read this means it should be quite bitter...

You can have it strong and sweet: βαρύ γλυκό.

Yes, I'm causing a major international incident by referring to Turkish coffee in Greek.

Judah Maccabee
29th December 06, 06:53 PM
*causes Cypriot riot*

DAYoung
29th December 06, 06:57 PM
*sits back and sips Lebanese coffee*

Artful Dentures
1st January 07, 11:23 AM
Armenian coffee is excellent

kungfujew
1st January 07, 03:19 PM
Armenian coffee is excellent

Because genocide is delicious!

frumpleswift
1st January 07, 05:45 PM
Because genocide is delicious!

and oh to drink it in fine china made from grandma...

Father Diablo
8th January 07, 01:19 AM
[B]
America, if you want to really shape the New American Century, you'll need to give your filthy 'cup of Joe' a makeover.



Hey now, don't go knocking the good old cup of Joe. You know how may wars that has won? Run that bastard through the coffee maker about 3 times, and you got enough caffeine to keep one ship so hyped up they can fight till the year 3000. And after doing 12 on 12 off for 6 months straight, you need it.

DAYoung
8th January 07, 01:29 AM
Hey now, don't go knocking the good old cup of Joe. You know how may wars that has won? Run that bastard through the coffee maker about 3 times, and you got enough caffeine to keep one ship so hyped up they can fight till the year 3000. And after doing 12 on 12 off for 6 months straight, you need it.

Now c'mon...America hasn't fought in a real war since the Second World-War.

And as a civilian born in 1975, I'd know.

bob
8th January 07, 03:14 AM
And as a civilian born in 1975, I'd know.

I initially read this as 'a civilization born in 1975' and thought, 'hmm, we weren't civilized until the Aboriginal Land Rights act, yeah, I can see that.'

DAYoung
8th January 07, 03:21 AM
Iz good becoz peeple think Im smarta thann i am.

AAAhmed46
8th January 07, 04:07 PM
Canadian coffeee is the best.


Anyone who says otherwise has not tasted canada's craZy coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

frumpleswift
8th January 07, 04:12 PM
Next you will be telling me Canadian beer is also the best. Have you been smoking with Cracky?

Artful Dentures
8th January 07, 07:18 PM
Like I said Tim Horton's for the win

Worlds greatest and most addictive coffee.

Liquified Crack!!!

Hmmm Hmm gooood!!