View Full Version : Hey, Arseface, get this! HBO is Preparing a Preacher TV Series

30th November 06, 03:10 PM
Though plans for a Preacher feature film starring James Marsden (Cyclops from X-Men) as everyone's favorite cursing voice of god fell through, it would seem that the series has not seen the last of a camera lens.

HBO has ordered it up and everything's under way. Garth Ennis & Steve Dillon's monumental series Preacher will be a one-hour drama series on HBO.

The failed movie was to have been produced by Kevin Smith's own View Askew company and directed by Rachel Talalay (Tank Girl / Freddy's Dead). To the right you'll see some of the early concept make-up for good old' arse-face. I recall upon hearing of plans for a movie- hell, I think we had a Bullshido thread for it- thinking that there's no way a single movie can cut it, even a movie trilogy would fall short. The general consensus amongst the comic dorks seemed to be that a mini-series would barely do it justice and that the only way to really get everything covered was a full on TV series, I think I was part of that consensus.

Whether Marsden would make a good Jesse Custer, well who knows. As it stands there is no casting news on this series. What I can tell you- brace yourselves- is that it is being produced and written by Mark Steven Johnson, the guy who wrote and directed both Daredevil and the upcoming Ghost Rider film. Joining Johnson as a producer on the project is Howard Deutch, who will be directing the pilot. Deutch directed Johnson's script to Grumpier Old Men, he's also responsible for the Bruce Willis-Matthew Perry buddy pic The Whole Ten Yards.

This concerns me.

Grumpier Old Men and The Whole Ten Yards were both craptacular sequels to only marginally better movies. While I did enjoy Daredevil, and maintain that the director's cut- which adds 30 minutes and some considerable story- is well worth seeing, a lot of people had an understandable (I can like something and still get why people didn't) problem with it. Whether these two can overcame past, well not exactly failure- previous mediocrity and do Preacher the justice it deserves, well I just don't know.
I think, that given the format- one hour drama- these guys have an opportunity to get past the sort of constraints that really hurt Daredevil. Clocking in at 103 minutes, the theatrical release of DD cut out a lot of story, character development, and changed some fundamental aspects of the plot; Fox executives insisted that the film be shortened and less introspective. Fox is notorious for this. In fact, right now, Marvel is at odds with Fox over the fate of future X-Men films, they're not pleased with how their hallmark franchise has been handled (http://www.dailyindia.com/show/87201.php/Fox-may-end-up-losing-Marvels-X-Men-to-Sony), and frankly I can't blame them; you all remember how Fox insisted that X3 would be out on a specific, not far off date even while director's were being shuffled in and out of the project?

At HBO, there may be a real opportunity to do Preacher the way it should be: R rated, involved, and epic. I pray that this comes together in a way we can enjoy. I pray that this doesn't end up like the television incarnations of Nick Fury (ugh, the Hoff >_<) and Generation X (hey, both of those flops were Fox TV movies, who knew!). It seems all we can do is pray.

Thanks to IGN for the low-down. (http://tv.ign.com/articles/748/748151p1.html)

30th November 06, 03:15 PM

30th November 06, 03:34 PM

My sentiments exactly. The only way this day could be better was if they were also to announce an HBO series of Transmetropolitan.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

30th November 06, 04:03 PM
Considering the last Garth Ennis work to make it to the screen was the travesty that was Constantine I wouldn't hold my breath for anything decent.

30th November 06, 04:07 PM
But you can't make the saint of killers any less awesome. He could be played by mr rogers and he'd still be the most awesome character on tv.

30th November 06, 08:11 PM
Too bad the movie deal fell through. James Marsden would have been perfect in the role of a one-eyed comic book character.

30th November 06, 08:26 PM
But you can't make the saint of killers any less awesome. He could be played by mr rogers and he'd still be the most awesome character on tv.

Who would you cast?

30th November 06, 11:59 PM
Dunno. I don't pay any attention to minor celebrities.

1st December 06, 12:07 AM
Who would you cast?

That's a tough one...

Tommy Lee Jones might work, since James Coburn or Lee Marvin are both dead. Maybe Tom Beringer.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

1st December 06, 12:12 AM
Lee Marvin would have been good. Seen Point Blank?

1st December 06, 12:49 AM
Lee Marvin would have been good. Seen Point Blank?

Actually, no. While I am a huge fan of Lee Marvin, my exposure is actually pretty limited.

But looking at the character you can see how clearly it was meant for Lee Marvin, but with Clint Eastwood's growl from Unforgiven. Since that ain't gonna happen, I really hope they tap Tom Beringer or Tommy Lee Jones.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

1st December 06, 09:23 AM
Charles Bronson would've been good too.

Anywho, people that are actually alive and such.

Saint of Killers
Michael Madsen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000514/) - meh, he could do it, but I'd rather he didn't
Michael Hogan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0389581/) aka Col. Tigh from BSG - I think he could pull it off
Adam Baldwin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000284/) aka Jayne from Firefly - he's big and he can be menacing, and he can sound the part, not sure how he'd work out though
Kurt Russel (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000621/) - Tombstone, bitch.
Powers Boothe (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000959/) - Tombstone + Deadwood = killing machine
Chuck Norris (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001569/) - tee-hee
Liam Neeson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/) - pretty much perfect for the role, not too old, not too young, damn good actor, fucked up face from boxing in his youth

Jesse Custer
James Marsden (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005188/) - the originally cast actor would probably do alright, but let's see what else is out there
Timothy Olyphant (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648249/) aka Sheriff Bullock from Deadwood - he's got the right look and all, but I wonder how well he'd do not having to look angry all the time
James Marsters (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/) aka Spike from Buffy - his hair is actually brown and curly and he's from California. Damn good actor, could easily pull it off.... kinda short though
David Boreanaz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004770/) - Angel, he could do it
Nathan Fillion (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0277213/) - yeah, he could do it too, and I swear I'll stop casting people from Joss Whedon stuff
Michael Rosenbaum (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0742146/) aka Lex Luthor from Smallville - he's easily the best actor on that show- wel 'cept maybe for John Glover- he could do it
Jamie Bamber (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051397/) aka Apollo from BSG - good actor, fits the role
Tahmoh Penikett (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671886/) aka Helo from BSG - good actor, pretty damn tall
Dominic Purcell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0700712/) of Prison Break and John Doe - he seems to be a pretty solid actor, and his voice has already got that weird "do as I fucking say" quality

Tulip Not sure if she's supposed to be the same age or how much younger she can be than Jesse, so I'll cast from 20s to 30s
Julia Stiles (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005466/) - got the look, can have a kind of harsh face with a little work. Seems like a good actress
Elisabeth Röhm (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0737533/) - looks the part, done tough shit before, good actress
Jennifer Garner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004950/) - not a favorite of mine, but she could probably do it
Brittany Murphy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005261/) - can look it and likely pull it off, she fit well in Sin City
Kristen Bell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068338/) - I had to do it, she can do pretty much anything and she's 26, so fuck off nay sayers
Emily Deschanel (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0221043/) - does a retty good job in Bones
Zooey Deschanel (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0221046/) - Emily's adorable younger sister, you may have seen her in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...... her eyes, they just.... absorb me
Catherine Bell (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004738/) - I actually never watched much JAG, not sure how she'd do or even look as a blonde.... I just thought I'd mention her
Julie Benz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004748/) - fucking perfect, right look, right age, can play vulnerable and menacing (Rita on Dexter, Darla on Buffy and Angel), she'd have to be my top pick

James Marsters (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/) - he was a badass English vampire, he'd be a damn good badass Irish vampire
Ryan Reynolds (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005351/) - Ol' Van Wylder could just as well try for Custer himself, but he's too much of a funny man not to cast him as Cassidy
Alan Tudyk (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0876138/) - he could probably do it, oh and it case you haven't figured it out yet, I lied about not suggesting more folks from Whedon stuff
John Hawkes aka Sol Star from Deadwood (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370035/) - I think he'd do well, has a good look for the part
Steve Buscemi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000114/) - yeah, that could work

Herr Starr
Patrick Stewart (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/) - that is all

1st December 06, 09:35 AM
Dude having Chuck Norris in there would kick ass.

1st December 06, 12:16 PM
Dai, how blind ARE you exactly? Angel as Jesse Custor? Luthor from Smallville? LOL

1st December 06, 03:30 PM
Fuck you, I'm giving some options. Some are considerably better than others, granted.

Are all my suggestions that bad?

You give us some casting ideas.

Hell, everyone do that.

1st December 06, 05:20 PM
How long is the preacher series?

Sun Wukong
3rd December 06, 03:06 PM
God I hate Fox Studios.

3rd December 06, 05:03 PM
They've made a ton of movies. What's so hateful about them?

6th December 06, 05:37 PM
You know Tulip is actually older than Jesse.


edit - Steve Buscemi 4 Cassidy FTW. Good choice.

6th December 06, 07:06 PM
Steve Buscemi 4 Cassidy FTW. Good choice.

Someone somewhere else suggested Ed Norton. That really works in my head.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

6th December 06, 07:08 PM
How long is the preacher series?

66 issues and 6 one shot specials. According to an interview with one of the people behind the series, they intend to cover all of the source material at about 1 issue per episode.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

P.S. The interview in question is up at Newsarama.

6th December 06, 08:26 PM
I think the bigger question is not "Who will play the lead?" but "Will there be chicken-fucking?"

6th December 06, 09:15 PM
I think the bigger question is not "Who will play the lead?" but "Will there be chicken-fucking?"

I would think that would be required.

Veritas et Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

7th December 06, 08:54 PM
It seems there will indeed be chicken fucking.

A few words from Mark Steven Johnson.

December 6, 2006 - Mark Steven Johnson has already dabbled in the realm of cinematic hell with his film version of Marvel Comic's iconic Ghost Rider character (due this coming February), but now he's got another hellish project in the works: the recently announced HBO series Preacher.

Based on the DC Comics Vertigo series by writer Garth Ennis and artist Steve Dillon, Preacher is the tale of Jesse Custer, a small-town minister who goes on a cross-country search looking for God. Accompanying Custer on his journey is his hitman ex-girlfriend and a drunken vampire pal, and together this trio encounter various demons, angels and other biblical types during their search.

"Preacher I've always wanted to do, man," says Johnson. "I mean, Preacher is like the greatest, but it's so difficult, and I love it more than anybody. And I remember reading a script awhile ago that was going to go to film and I was like, 'Uh, how do you make a two-hour movie out of Preacher?' You can't do it. So when I went to HBO I said very simply, 'Here's the comic. There's 75 issues plus the four issue Saint of Killers.' I said, 'Every issue is an hour. It's a six-year show.' And HBO, God bless them, went: 'Cool.'"

Johnson says the plan is to be not just loyal to the source material, but "exact." He took his first meeting with HBO just last week, and the filmmaker says that he kept expecting the network to balk at his plans for the very adult series.

"It's like … Odin Quincannon having sex with a meat-person," he laughs, referring to a bit from the comic. "If I can do that, I've made my mark on the world! So everything is like so out there and this is it. They were like, 'God bless.' I was like, 'F**king HBO has got balls.' They were like, 'Bring it. Do it.'"

As for those fans who have doubted his ability to properly translate Preacher to the screen, Johnson has heard it all before.

"It's just like Daredevil, it's just like Ghost Rider," he says. "No one comes to your door and rings the doorbell and goes, 'Hey, you want to do these movies?' I'm the last guy. But I'm the guy who gets it done because I care and I do it. So people have tried to make Daredevil, they've tried to make Ghost Rider, and it hasn't happened. But I got them made. And Daredevil was [with] mixed results and Ghost Rider I hope much better [results], and Preacher I hope exact! In fact today I e-mailed Kevin Smith and I said, 'Dude, I just got Preacher. I know you love it. If it goes - and who knows if it will - but if it goes, would you please direct an episode?' Because I want to go to Kevin. I want to go to Robert Rodriguez. I want to go to all these people and do guest directors. I think that would be really cool. I want it to be a prestige thing. You love Preacher? Come do a show and let that be -- because usually it's a guest actor. I want it to be guest director, but keep the spirit of it, keep the vibe of it, but also know there will be a different imprint every time when it comes to directing the show. My job is to help write the shows. I'm working with Garth every day. He's a big part of it [to] make sure it's exactly what we want, and then let the director put his imprint on it, but it's got to be the book."

As Johnson points out, it's still early in the process, so early in fact that he hasn't even written an episode. As with Daredevil and Ghost Rider, he says that people have been trying to adapt Preacher "for years and years and years." Johnson's fingers are crossed that his attempt will be the one that finally brings the comic to life. Part of the process, Johnson hopes, will be keeping the creator of the comic involved in the show.

"If he wants to be [involved], absolutely," says Johnson. "I've never met him [before, so] I was like, 'It's so great to talk to you and ask questions.' And as always happens with the creators, they're like, 'Dude, don't be beholden to the source material. I just did that because, you know, A, B, or C.' He was like, 'I just did what I did. Do whatever you want.' And I'm like, 'No, no, no. It has to be exactly that.' So he's the one that's going, 'Use your own thing.' But I said to Garth, 'Tell me are there any stories you wanted to tell but you weren't able to? Was there something that you wanted to do but didn't have time for? I want to hear that too.' Because we want to fill it out, we want to make it like a six-year show or above with a definite ending, ending the way it does which is incredibly controversial. Again, no one would have the balls to do this but HBO."

When asked whether or not he thinks the success of NBC's hit show Heroes had anything to do with HBO's taking on Preacher, Johnson says he doubts it. The two properties bear little resemblance beyond their shared comic book vibe, and Johnson says that HBO has been in talks to pick up Preacher for some time now. He sees the project as being more similar to Ghost Rider, in fact, though ultimately Preacher is going to be easier to adapt.

"Ghost Rider came in and out of circulation for years for a reason, because it had flaws," he says. "The image was great, the idea was great. So my goal was to find out what were the strengths and then what could I bring to it. … Preacher doesn't need that. Preacher is perfect in my opinion. All the things that made people go, 'Nah, it's not for me,' make me go, 'Yeah!' That's what I'm so excited about."

10th December 06, 09:29 PM
Holy crap, I'm just re-reading Preacher now; issue 10, he's 17 when he meets Tulip and she's 3 years older than him, 20. They're talking about their time before he left her, and she's all "5 years later and that still gets to me"- Tulip's only like 25 or 26 and Jesse's supposed to be like 22, fucking college aged. Even if you say "well, they were together for a few years first, that puts them at like 25 and 28 tops.


Right, so this greatly affects casting.

I now have no problem saying Kristen Bell, 26, should be Tulip- she'd be fucking perfect, period.

As for Jesse.... well, damn, hmmmmm... the guy that plays Peter on Heroes? Assuming he can play a badass- meh, not so much.

Let's see, I guess Marsden is still a good pick. I don't know, can't really think of any one that really fits the bill now, damnit.

11th December 06, 12:27 AM
Preacher's overrated IMO. Sorry, I know a lot of people love it and I enjoyed it but it's not quite as good as it's cracked up to be.


- It's heavily derivative from Ennis's run on Hellblazer (even down to the main character having the JC initials). Many of the storylines, including the whole spawn of heaven and hell bit, were lifted straight from HB. Nothing wrong with that of course but it diluted the impact for me.

- I have a problem with Steve Dillon's artwork. There's no real depth to it and he has a habit of making women look plain ugly. The layouts lack imagination and the horror scenes just look cartoonish rather than affecting. The Glenn Fabry covers kinda make up for it.

- Too many deus ex machina twists that just didn't work for me.

- Only the Cassidy character had any real depth, the rest were just caricatures.

That said, it was a lot of fun.

11th December 06, 01:05 AM
Well, I hated Hellblazer, so we'll call it even.

But I agree with you on the art.

3rd February 07, 09:20 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. All is not lost.

27th August 08, 10:19 PM
Mark Steven Johnson, who brought Daredevil and Ghost Rider to the big screen, told The Continuum that his attempts to bring Garth Ennis' Preacher to HBO as a series were close but ultimately unsuccessful.

"We were budgeting and everything and it was getting really close to going," Johnson told The Continuum. "But the new head of HBO felt it was just too dark and too violent and too controversial. Which, of course, is kind of the point!

"It was a very faithful adaptation of the first few books, nearly word for word. They offered me the chance to redevelop it but I refused. I've learned my lesson on that front and I won't do it again. So I'm afraid it's dead at HBO.

"I've heard someone is in the process of getting the rights to turn it into a feature film. I hope that happens. But I hope it happens as a series of movies as one movie couldn't do it justice. I really love that story and I dedicated a lot of my time to honor Garth's work. But it wasn't meant to be." link (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0808/25/index.htm?loc=interstitialskip)

Sounds like he decided to shit can the whole project rather than make it suck, which I can respect. Doesn't look good for the Song of Ice and Fire series if this got stopped for being too dark, violent, and controversial.

31st August 08, 08:14 AM
What network put Nip & Tuck on the air? That show was insanely fucked up. Surely they'd put Preacher on the air.

31st August 08, 11:35 AM
If you notice, their more ambitious shows get cancelled pretty quickly. Shows like Deadwood, Carnival, and Joe from Cincinnatti all had the budget of blockbuster movies per season, but only lasted about two or three seasons.

Preacher would be better as a mini-series anyway.