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mrblackmagic
29th September 06, 08:51 AM
Due to the success of the Passion of the Christ and the Chronicles of Narnia, Fox opened a new studio, Fox Faith. The studio will specialize in family and "faith" (that means religion folks, christian religion) based films.


http://www.foxfaith.com/

Shawarma
29th September 06, 08:59 AM
Brilliant idea. So far, "Christian faith movies" have all sucked and been rather low-budget productions. With big bucks funding Christian movies, Fox will not only make a killing, but also promote Christianity all over the world.

The movies will suck ass, of course, but who cares.

Stick
29th September 06, 09:57 AM
Kinda sparce for the front page. Can you flush out that first post a little?

Anywho, I'm curious to see what will come out of this studio. I am not religious, and I doubt I would necessarily enjoy any religious movie regardless of whether or not it gets a big budget, just saying I find the prospects interesting.

kungfujew
29th September 06, 12:29 PM
These movies aren't for us, they're for all those "values voters" you hear about every couple of years, you know, the ones fucking up the Kansas Schoolboard. They say that movies and marketing are all aimed at the lowest common denominator these days, and you can't go much lower than Fundamentalist Christians. Bravo, Fox. Bravo.

Iscariot
29th September 06, 12:32 PM
It's sound from a business point of view, look at the grosses on Passion, and the returns on the Cliff Richard single at the beginning of the millenium. There's a fucking huge untapped market out there, I'm surprised someone hasn't done something this big sooner.

If they get an advisory council recognised by the churches that they're aimed at it's basically a licence to print money.

AAAhmed46
29th September 06, 12:35 PM
And despite this, people still say the media has a liberal bias?

kungfujew
29th September 06, 12:41 PM
Well, my Canuckistani friend, if you haven't visited the ol' U-S-of-A recently, you'll find that it's only gotten more righteous, right-wing, uber-patriotic, and reactionary; not less. The only reason that Fox is doing this is because there is such a HUGE market for religio-fascist film and marketing in this country.
People keep telling me that this is just the backswing from all that hippie stuff back in the 60's... that the pundulum will swing back the other way eventually. The problem I see with that theory: they breed. The breed a lot. How exactly is this country supposed to go back to sanity if the crazy / inbred fucktards are outbreeding everyone else by a massive scale. I just wish they'd establish the Dominion and have it over with, I'm just tired of this whole parliamentarian sharade.

WarPhalange
29th September 06, 12:49 PM
They should make movies about Agnosticism.

"GOD LOVES YOU!!! MAYBE!!!"
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"Mr... I'm losing my faith. My friend said science is a better explanation for everything and God is something man created to fill in the gaps of knowledge. Is this true?"

"Maybe."
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"YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, AND I WILL KILL YOU FOR IT!!!! AGNOSTIHAD!!!"

mrblackmagic
29th September 06, 12:58 PM
Kinda sparce for the front page. Can you flush out that first post a little?

Anywho, I'm curious to see what will come out of this studio. I am not religious, and I doubt I would necessarily enjoy any religious movie regardless of whether or not it gets a big budget, just saying I find the prospects interesting.

Sorry about that. There's not too much information on the subject floating and I'm on the ambivalent side when it comes to this kind of thing.

AAAhmed46
29th September 06, 02:45 PM
Kinda sparce for the front page. Can you flush out that first post a little?

Anywho, I'm curious to see what will come out of this studio. I am not religious, and I doubt I would necessarily enjoy any religious movie regardless of whether or not it gets a big budget, just saying I find the prospects interesting.


Well maybe it could be entertaining if we have a more liberal fundie making the movie.

Instead of focussing on converting, they could do a whole story about david and goliath with a twist, or the story of Moses while focussing on just that.....the story of Moses and actually work on charecterization instead of making everyone who's supposed to be saintly be saintly and everyone who is evil to be evil.


Or is that blasphemy?

Stick
29th September 06, 02:49 PM
Blasphemy.

AAAhmed46
29th September 06, 02:51 PM
Blasphemy is entertaining.

Even if it was islamic it would be entertaining, as long as it is being seen as just that: Entertainment.

I think this should go with all religious media, i mean why the hell is it even being made into media if they want to hamper what is entertaining.

WarPhalange
29th September 06, 03:06 PM
Even if it was islamic it would be entertaining, as long as it is being seen as just that: Entertainment.

Yes, but will it be seen as entertainment?

Hint: no.

Shawarma
29th September 06, 03:15 PM
Blasphemy is entertaining.


Disagree. Blasphemy is very rarely funny and is really only valid when its used to raise some points about the place of religion within the society of today and not just used to cheap laughs from an atheist audience. I think there's too much LOOK, I DREW A PICTURE OF JESUS FUCKING MOHAMMED IN THE ASS WHILE BUDDAH MASTURBATES AND MOSES SUCKS HIM OFF I AM FUNNY LOL these days. And it's rarely funny. Mindless, hateful ranting against people's religion isn't very funny and saddens me.

Except for Scientology. Anything goes against Scientology.

Zendetta
29th September 06, 03:19 PM
FoxFaith? Awesome. Should be a good balance to the current FoxTrash lineup.

AAAhmed46
29th September 06, 04:05 PM
Disagree. Blasphemy is very rarely funny and is really only valid when its used to raise some points about the place of religion within the society of today and not just used to cheap laughs from an atheist audience. I think there's too much LOOK, I DREW A PICTURE OF JESUS FUCKING MOHAMMED IN THE ASS WHILE BUDDAH MASTURBATES AND MOSES SUCKS HIM OFF I AM FUNNY LOL these days. And it's rarely funny. Mindless, hateful ranting against people's religion isn't very funny and saddens me.

Except for Scientology. Anything goes against Scientology.

Im not talking about that kind of blasphemy.

Im talking blasphemy where if someone did "Abraham in 2004" where they did the story of Abraham in a creative way.

Or if someone did a movie on Samson or something, but with a change.


Alot of christians/jews/muslims may consider that blasphemy.



But as long as the creator admits it to be fiction, whats wrong with it?





I DREW A PICTURE OF JESUS FUCKING MOHAMMED IN THE ASS WHILE BUDDAH MASTURBATES AND MOSES SUCKS HIM OFF I AM FUNNY LOL

Thats not what im talking about.


Now if someone made a movie about christ in a wierd way, and says ''this is historical fact''

Then yeah its wrong, because if someone is pulling something out of thier ass and is using an idea of thier own creativity experessing on religion and says ""This is historical fact'''is just retarded.

If he says "Yeah i made it up, it would be fun'' then i guess its okay.

ThaiBoxerShorts
29th September 06, 04:05 PM
Blasphemy.
Blasphemy is a victimless crime.

Stick
29th September 06, 04:23 PM
Well said.

Kiko
29th September 06, 04:44 PM
Now Veggie Tales (http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20060912-091414-1839r.htm) has a channel where it can be shown without controversy (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/22/veggietales.controversy.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories).

I should think you'd all be thrilled that faith based programming is all in one place you can ignore more easily. There's a cable channel for nearly EVERY subject, lifestyle etc. It's not PBS so what's the problem?

Zendetta
29th September 06, 05:08 PM
There is no problem.

Other than its taking up a slot that could be dedicated to Mexican Boxing or European softcore porn, that is.

Kiko
29th September 06, 05:42 PM
So start the Mexicanm Boxing Channel of the European Softcore Porn Network already! Who's stopping you?

DAYoung
29th September 06, 05:56 PM
I love the idea that 'values' means 'hypocritical Christian values'.

"With this I come to a conclusion and pronounce my judgment. I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian church the most terrible of all the accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worst possible corruption. The Christian church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul...This eternal accusation against Christianity I shall write upon all walls, wherever walls are to be found--I have letters that even the blind will be able to see. . . . I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough,--I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race. . . .

And mankind reckons time from the dies nefastus when this fatality befell--from the first day of Christianity!--Why not rather from its last?--From today?--The revaluation of all values! . . ." - Nietzsche

WarPhalange
29th September 06, 08:48 PM
Jesus is probably rolling in his grave right now.

Iscariot
29th September 06, 09:00 PM
Jesus is probably rolling in his grave right now.
If you can provide evidence it means we can cancel Easter.

kungfujew
29th September 06, 10:45 PM
I love the idea that 'values' means 'hypocritical Christian values'.

Watch American TV around election time. Have hard liquor on hand, you may need some to pour into your eyesockets.



"With this I come to a conclusion and pronounce my judgment. I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian church the most terrible of all the accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worst possible corruption. The Christian church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul...This eternal accusation against Christianity I shall write upon all walls, wherever walls are to be found--I have letters that even the blind will be able to see. . . . I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough,--I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race. . . .

And mankind reckons time from the dies nefastus when this fatality befell--from the first day of Christianity!--Why not rather from its last?--From today?--The revaluation of all values! . . ." - Nietzsche

I'll stop liking Nietzsche when he stops being right.

DAYoung
29th September 06, 11:26 PM
The most disturbing thing about Nietzsche is how even his most ludicrous pronouncements can often be uncannily prescient. And before anyone brings up his sad statements about women, I said 'often', not 'always'...

AAAhmed46
30th September 06, 01:52 AM
Why is Nietzche always put on a pedestal and not other existentialist philosophers?

kungfujew
30th September 06, 02:15 AM
Why is Nietzche always put on a pedestal and not other existentialist philosophers?

He's a lot more fun. Probably on account of the crazy.

DAYoung
30th September 06, 04:14 AM
Why is Nietzche always put on a pedestal and not other existentialist philosophers?

He's a better writer, who lacks rigorous systematicity, but makes up for it by touching so many interesting subjects. In short, he's got something witty and often brilliant to say about almost everything.

Sartre, Heidegger and Camus don't (although Kazantzakis does).

AAAhmed46
30th September 06, 02:08 PM
So basically, he was more indepth then in his writings?

DAYoung
30th September 06, 04:24 PM
So basically, he was more indepth then in his writings?

May not so much 'in depth' (which often implies a certain consistency), as cutting. He's radical, but not rigourous. To give a contrast, Hegel is incredibly in depth and brilliantly systematic, but not sharp or biting in the same way.

Rhamma
30th September 06, 06:59 PM
Jesus loves you....

Everyone else thinks your a shit head!


p.s.

The Rhamma STILL HATES FUNDIES!!!!!

DAYoung
30th September 06, 07:03 PM
Holy shit, it's Rhamma. Since when were you lurking around Sociocide? Shouldn't you be off disenfranchising Mexicans?

AAAhmed46
30th September 06, 07:50 PM
May not so much 'in depth' (which often implies a certain consistency), as cutting. He's radical, but not rigourous. To give a contrast, Hegel is incredibly in depth and brilliantly systematic, but not sharp or biting in the same way.


Hegel looked cooler.

Nietzche's mustache ruined it.

Rhamma
30th September 06, 07:57 PM
Holy shit, it's Rhamma. Since when were you lurking around Sociocide? Shouldn't you be off disenfranchising Mexicans?
Disenfranchising Mexicans??? WTF are you talking about?

DAYoung
30th September 06, 08:55 PM
Disenfranchising Mexicans??? WTF are you talking about?

I think we had a discussion about the Alamo six months ago. Either it didn't happen, or you've been on the turps again.

Don "Jive Turkey" Gwinn
30th September 06, 08:58 PM
Can't think why it's so awful for Christians to make Christian movies when I've had to hear about goofy advocacy movies from Buddhists and Taoists and whoever else for years. Hell, the crazies have always said the Jews run all the studios, and that's turned out more or less OK.

Don't get me started on Scientologists.

Rhamma
30th September 06, 09:05 PM
I think we had a discussion about the Alamo six months ago. Either it didn't happen, or you've been on the turps again.
You must have the wrong deity.

I don't recall ever talking about the Alamo in any forum.

Although the Alamo is in my home town.

Rhamma
30th September 06, 09:27 PM
If there is anything you would like to know about the Alamo, I might be able to help you.

I know a great deal about it, and I don't have a bias one way or the other.

I don't have the "evil white European" mind set, or the "white power / manifest destiny" mind set.

I have a pretty clear understanding of what went on and could give you a more or less accurate account sans political agenda or "Oh, let's not mar the memory of our great 'hero’s' " type thing.

DAYoung
30th September 06, 09:44 PM
The irony. Remember the Alamo: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?p=959780

Rhamma
30th September 06, 10:27 PM
The irony. Remember the Alamo: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?p=959780
ha ha Okay I guess I did mention the Alamo, but that hardly qualifies as discussing it.

When I said "Alamo? Oh yeah, I remember the Alamo."

That was a very weak joke...

you know the Battle of San Jacinto...

Remeber the Alamo...

Which BTW I re-enacted that battle (San Jacinto) one time years ago. I was a Mexican Officer.

History is kind of a hobby of mine. The REAL history, not the version of one side or the other.

DerAuslander108
1st October 06, 12:45 AM
I liked some of the Veggie Tales songs.

Doctor X
1st October 06, 04:05 PM
"Goes" fundi?

When has Faux not been "fundi?"

--J.D.

Doctor X
1st October 06, 04:06 PM
Hey, if they "go fundi" I demand they depict the particularly beautiful and inspiring moments like raping women, sacrificing children, Judas exploding, and cursing fig trees.

Good for the children to see such acts of faith. . . .

--J.D.

AAAhmed46
1st October 06, 04:08 PM
OH come now docter, you cant be serious when you say you have never met any good christians now?

Doctor X
1st October 06, 08:45 PM
Never said I did not, but I have yet to meet one who has applied critical thinking to his beliefs.

--J.D.