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Neildo
7th February 08, 04:24 AM
gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Steve
7th February 08, 05:21 AM
It's the writers' strike that is gay.

boondock lee
8th February 08, 12:51 AM
Yeah and the fact that some of the cast is working on other shit......

Sun Wukong
8th February 08, 02:46 AM
It's the writers' strike that is gay.
The writer's strike is a necessity in my opinion. When TV stars make millions and the writers of the same popular shows make less than I do... that's what I like to call an unfair disparity of income. In my opinion, they need to pay writers more for one gigantic reason: to keep good writers working on good shows.

Acting doesn't make a show great, the script makes the show great. Bad script? Bad show.

Writer's deserve more recognition and better pay checks.

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Sun Wukong
8th February 08, 03:01 AM
JFntFDfaf5o


Here's another one from Colbert's writers.

Steve
8th February 08, 03:03 AM
You are right, my point was about how writers are taken for granted.

It's a long time over due that we leave behind the days where an actor carries a film/TV show due to his/her name only.

YvetteSavage
8th February 08, 02:54 PM
This series started off well, but rather slow and confusing plot lines led me to lose interest.

SpringHeeledJack
8th February 08, 02:58 PM
Oh great. Just what we need. Another inbred sandlapper.

Steve
8th February 08, 03:43 PM
Oh great. Just what we need. Another inbred sandlapper.

No shit.

j/k YvetteSavage, nice + rep for you, welcome to the site. Heroes got kinda muddled in the end for me too. I chalk it up to me splitting a bottle of wine (or two) with a couple friends while watching the shows every week, though.

Neildo
9th February 08, 01:11 PM
i watched every episode again. all episodes are good. people who say it slowed down are haters and have no comprehension of character or plot development.


and peter is still an overpowered motherfucker. i want him to go dark side and start killing bitches left and right.

Zendetta
9th February 08, 02:31 PM
Oh great. Just what we need. Another inbred sandlapper.

Pffft. Like there is another kind.

Sun Wukong
9th February 08, 03:35 PM
Oh great. Just what we need. Another inbred sandlapper.

what the hell is a sandlapper?

Shawarma
10th February 08, 02:51 PM
Thank god I'm not the only person who had no idea what that meant.

SpringHeeledJack
10th February 08, 04:24 PM
We are good sandlappers,
Yes, we're good sandlappers,
And we're mighty proud to say
That we live
Yes, we live
In the very best state
Of the USA!

boondock lee
11th February 08, 12:14 AM
Found sneak peek clips for Volume 3.....from the looks of it, its about to get really good! ( sound isn't very good...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZL2L00Ph9Y

Neildo
18th August 08, 07:40 PM
bump.

one more month to wait. september 22nd start date. argh!

boondock lee
21st September 08, 10:14 AM
BUMP FOR UPDATE.

Tomorrow is premiere of vol. 3. Anyone going to catch it?
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mrblackmagic
21st September 08, 05:03 PM
Time, papers, and the abstract concept of eternally harmonized systems roughly called "God" willing. Yes, I will catch it. Wait, It comes at 7:00 p.m. eastern, right?

Aaranar
21st September 08, 05:37 PM
I'm going to give the third season a try, but if it's another build up to nothing like the last two seasons, it'll be my last.

Neildo
22nd September 08, 02:23 AM
i have to work. i don't have a dvr or tivo. time to break out the DUN DUN DUN V C R.

holy fuck!

and like, three hours of awesome. i can barely contain myself.

Stick
22nd September 08, 07:19 AM
But first, Chuck!

Phrost
22nd September 08, 02:41 PM
I watched both seasons on Netflix recently.

It's not a ripoff of X-Men, it's a ripoff of Watchmen.

AAAhmed46
22nd September 08, 06:12 PM
I watched both seasons on Netflix recently.

It's not a ripoff of X-Men, it's a ripoff of Watchmen.

?

How so?

mrblackmagic
22nd September 08, 08:22 PM
This discussion was buried deep down in this thread, but I remember it had something to do with stopping an inevitable catastrophe brought on by the powers that be.

Anyway, so how was it? I was watching Terminator.

partyboy
22nd September 08, 10:00 PM
Anyway, so how was it?

as I think Phrost said some time ago....

CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS

boondock lee
22nd September 08, 11:45 PM
I liked it but it did raise a lot of questions........

One of my concerns is the role that the escaped "villains" will play in the story.

AAAhmed46
23rd September 08, 12:35 AM
The indian guy fucked the latino girl.

They'll have a super brown baby.

Combinations of brown cultures.


WHY was that the only thing i thought about when i saw that?

HappyOldGuy
23rd September 08, 11:46 AM
The indian guy fucked the latino girl.

They'll have a super brown baby.

Combinations of brown cultures.


WHY was that the only thing i thought about when i saw that?
YUO=Gay. She got the hot. It was the only point in two hours they really had my attention.

I thought they threw in way too much crap. I could follow it, but they were throwing it in so fast I couldn't bring myself to actually care.

EvilSteve
23rd September 08, 12:18 PM
The indian guy fucked the latino girl.

They'll have a super brown baby.

Combinations of brown cultures.


WHY was that the only thing i thought about when i saw that?

Because you're a racist.

And not a very good one at that. Don't you know Indians are Aryan people, and therefore his superior genes would be watered down by her inferior ones?

Humph! SOMEONE needs to brush up on his Nazi racial theory!

KhorneliusPraxx
23rd September 08, 12:34 PM
I watched every episode but just because it is super hero related.
I am real close to giving up on it.

KhorneliusPraxx
23rd September 08, 12:35 PM
However, it was interesting to see the return of Brundlefly.

partyboy
23rd September 08, 09:42 PM
and the return of captain john sheridan

AAAhmed46
23rd September 08, 11:57 PM
YUO=Gay. She got the hot. It was the only point in two hours they really had my attention.

I thought they threw in way too much crap. I could follow it, but they were throwing it in so fast I couldn't bring myself to actually care.


Hey, HEY!!!

I didn't say i didn't think she was hot.

AAAhmed46
23rd September 08, 11:57 PM
Because you're a racist.

And not a very good one at that. Don't you know Indians are Aryan people, and therefore his superior genes would be watered down by her inferior ones?

Humph! SOMEONE needs to brush up on his Nazi racial theory!

Im pakistani.

Are we also awesome Aryans? or watered down inferiors?


And she was hot.....

KhorneliusPraxx
24th September 08, 07:34 AM
...and now,

Mohinder Suresh


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EuropIan
24th September 08, 07:55 AM
...and now,

Mohinder Suresh


*Mohinder Suresh is Goldbloom from "The Fly"-clip*


The reference was too obvious to ignore when I first saw him hanging upside down in his lab.

KhorneliusPraxx
24th September 08, 07:57 AM
not to mention the personality change and the body parts falling off.

EuropIan
24th September 08, 08:04 AM
He's totally going to eat that South American Maya Chick.

Steve
24th September 08, 02:06 PM
I can't blame him.

AAAhmed46
24th September 08, 06:59 PM
...and now,

Mohinder Suresh


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What movie is that from?

KhorneliusPraxx
24th September 08, 07:10 PM
The Fly:
The Mohinder Suresh Story
1986

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Fly_poster.jpg

Sun Wukong
24th September 08, 10:31 PM
The 3rd season of Heroes is pretty much uniformly written by studio hacks.

Mohinder suresh's tragic scientist experimenting on himself. Must find a cure for himself. Hot girlfriend he doesn't deserve.
-The fly, the hulk

The magnetism controlling villain with a german name: they literally call him Ze German. Might as well name him Erik and give him a red suit.
-Magneto

Superfast, impetuous badguy that wears red/with wild white windblown hair
-flash/quicksilver

Tragic time traveling crusader comes back from the future to prevent a futuristic apocalypse. Personally, i fucking hate this kind of story line.
-Terminator, rachel summers, cable, bishop, etc.

The bigger underlying plot is ripped right from the pages of every x-men comic story arc for 15 years; how do prevent holocaust like future. The problem is that particular plot device never goes away; it's too vague, too easy. In short, I fucking hate it and I want it to die.

Peter, Nathan and Sylar (real name Gabriel) are apparently brothers, and that story arc comes directly to us from the x-men Summers brothers story: Scott, Alex and Gabriel (they didn't even bother changing the name).

The regenerating apparently ageless white guy that apparently used to be a samurai of some kind. - Wolverine

Guy that puts people in psychic illusions that effectively traps them in their minds and twists percieved reality to diabolic purposes: Jason Wyngarde, aka Mastermind

Give me some time and I can undoubtedly find other HACK manuevers in their story arcs.

I keep watching because I like comic books too much and this is the first comic book like TV series that has a decent production value.

This show is noticeably lacking an anti-hero. No middle of the road, do-what-it-takes badasses willing to fill in the gaps and finally cut sylar's fucking head off.

Sylar and Peter both need to get knocked out of the show because they'll only keep getting more ridiculously powerful until it just get's stupid.

Plus, the plot never really advances and is too disjointed and slowly paced. I predict this show is destined to be cancelled after next season.

Steve
24th September 08, 10:47 PM
One thing that I've been debating with a friend of mine is whether present time Peter will learn to use his current body's power: The sound manipulation that is so badass that we can't explain it!!! Also, where the fuck is present Peter's body if his mind is stuck in another body?

Next question being: Is he able to absorb the powers of the villains he's traveling with while in his new body....?

Overall, I didn't expect too much so I enjoyed the show. I'll keep watching just because there isn't anything else worth watching in that time slot on a Monday, at least that I can think of.

boondock lee
24th September 08, 10:55 PM
I'm going to see how the rest of the season turns out, hopefully it all works out......

Arhetton
25th September 08, 02:42 AM
all I want to say is that I keep reading the title of this thread as "herpes"

Steve
25th September 08, 06:13 AM
Freudian Slip much?

Plasma
25th September 08, 07:44 AM
The 3rd season of Heroes is pretty much uniformly written by studio hacks.

Mohinder suresh's tragic scientist experimenting on himself. Must find a cure for himself. Hot girlfriend he doesn't deserve.
-The fly, the hulk

The magnetism controlling villain with a german name: they literally call him Ze German. Might as well name him Erik and give him a red suit.
-Magneto

Superfast, impetuous badguy that wears red/with wild white windblown hair
-flash/quicksilver

Tragic time traveling crusader comes back from the future to prevent a futuristic apocalypse. Personally, i fucking hate this kind of story line.
-Terminator, rachel summers, cable, bishop, etc.

The bigger underlying plot is ripped right from the pages of every x-men comic story arc for 15 years; how do prevent holocaust like future. The problem is that particular plot device never goes away; it's too vague, too easy. In short, I fucking hate it and I want it to die.

Peter, Nathan and Sylar (real name Gabriel) are apparently brothers, and that story arc comes directly to us from the x-men Summers brothers story: Scott, Alex and Gabriel (they didn't even bother changing the name).

The regenerating apparently ageless white guy that apparently used to be a samurai of some kind. - Wolverine

Guy that puts people in psychic illusions that effectively traps them in their minds and twists percieved reality to diabolic purposes: Jason Wyngarde, aka Mastermind

Give me some time and I can undoubtedly find other HACK manuevers in their story arcs.

I keep watching because I like comic books too much and this is the first comic book like TV series that has a decent production value.

This show is noticeably lacking an anti-hero. No middle of the road, do-what-it-takes badasses willing to fill in the gaps and finally cut sylar's fucking head off.

Sylar and Peter both need to get knocked out of the show because they'll only keep getting more ridiculously powerful until it just get's stupid.

Plus, the plot never really advances and is too disjointed and slowly paced. I predict this show is destined to be cancelled after next season.

You miss the fact that the VAST majority of the audience hasn't read/watched the movies/comics you mentioned and this the first time these story lines have hit the main stream. While the true geek is going "re-hash" and "copy", the average viewer is going "new", "crazy", "original."

Steve
25th September 08, 11:30 AM
Wait, like me?

mrblackmagic
25th September 08, 01:41 PM
My beef thus far is that all the "villains" have very villainous powers. I'm magnetic, I control fear; I control fire. They played this whole thing about villains up and there stock.

BTW, the new Jessica incarnation is crap.

Stick
25th September 08, 05:15 PM
First thing first, Prax, never change that Princess Leia avatar;that shit's gold.

Second, no incarnation of Jess/Nik will ever be good. Also, clone.

Third, Mohinder is not becomming a fly or spider; he's becoming a cockroach. All that talk of roaches being perfectly evolved, plus he shrank away from the light... like a roach.

"Eat your brains, Claire? That's disgusting."

AAAhmed46
25th September 08, 05:37 PM
THINGS ARE GOOD NOW

Anyway, i missed what syler did to clair.

did he eat her brains?

Stick
25th September 08, 06:10 PM
John! John? You can't do this. You don't know what you're about to do. No! John. You can't do this. You're not doing the right thing, this is not the right thing John. Things are good now! Things are fine now, I ran a test. Things are good now. I'm fixed now. You can trust me now, everything's good now. She doesn't know, she doesn't. I'm good now. I'm good, I ran a test, everything's perfect, I'm perfect. I'm sorry for what I did, I'm sorry. It wasn't me, you have to understand it wasn't me. That wasn't me you can't let this happen John! You can't! Please! Listen to me! Listen to me, I don't wanna go! Please, John, please! John, listen to me! I don't wanna go! Please, John... Please... I'm good now! Listen to me I don't wanna go, I'm sorry! That wasn't me! I'm fixed now, I ran a test! Everything's perfect! You can trust me! I love you! I love you please! I love you John and you love me!

partyboy
25th September 08, 06:15 PM
Anyway, i missed what syler did to clair.

did he eat her brains?

he fingered her... literally

AAAhmed46
25th September 08, 06:41 PM
Hawt.

partyboy
26th September 08, 12:40 AM
John! John? You can't do this. You don't know what you're about to do. No! John. You can't do this. You're not doing the right thing, this is not the right thing John. Things are good now! Things are fine now, I ran a test. Things are good now. I'm fixed now. You can trust me now, everything's good now. She doesn't know, she doesn't. I'm good now. I'm good, I ran a test, everything's perfect, I'm perfect. I'm sorry for what I did, I'm sorry. It wasn't me, you have to understand it wasn't me. That wasn't me you can't let this happen John! You can't! Please! Listen to me! Listen to me, I don't wanna go! Please, John, please! John, listen to me! I don't wanna go! Please, John... Please... I'm good now! Listen to me I don't wanna go, I'm sorry! That wasn't me! I'm fixed now, I ran a test! Everything's perfect! You can trust me! I love you! I love you please! I love you John and you love me!


I can imagine her saying the same thing during robo-coitus

Stick
26th September 08, 12:48 AM
Holy shit, you're right; none of what she says is specific and it can all be taken very out of context.

Someone needs to dub that over porn, and fast.

Steve
26th September 08, 02:40 AM
And put the above two posts in the proper thread.

ie: get the fuck out of my Heroes thread.

Sun Wukong
26th September 08, 03:05 AM
You miss the fact that the VAST majority of the audience hasn't read/watched the movies/comics you mentioned and this the first time these story lines have hit the main stream. While the true geek is going "re-hash" and "copy", the average viewer is going "new", "crazy", "original."


Oh, I didn't miss that. It definitely lowers my expectations and they aren't even doing it as well either, which is kind of pathetic given that they have far more in the way of resources.

partyboy
26th September 08, 05:46 AM
so has caitlin (peter's irish slut) been given the collective middle finger being stuck in a disease-ravaged future that doesn't exist anymore?

and I hate how they ignore paradoxes. future peter goes to the past, changes everything apparently but still remains there in the past and then subsequently is told to go back to a future that shouldn't exist anymore??

KhorneliusPraxx
26th September 08, 08:04 AM
First thing first, Prax, never change that Princess Leia avatar;that shit's gold.
too late...

mrblackmagic
26th September 08, 10:14 AM
so has caitlin (peter's irish slut) been given the collective middle finger being stuck in a disease-ravaged future that doesn't exist anymore?

and I hate how they ignore paradoxes. future peter goes to the past, changes everything apparently but still remains there in the past and then subsequently is told to go back to a future that shouldn't exist anymore??

I took that as a TV-PG way of saying "You're screwing everything up. Please, go back where you came from and fuck yourself."

partyboy
26th September 08, 03:19 PM
Wait, what?

EuropIan
26th September 08, 11:38 PM
The brain pattern explainer for how powers differ is kind of meh.

However, they did manage to explore it a bit with Nicky (ali larter) as she can now insta freeze stuff.

From how the powers are explained, it would make sense that Peter retains his own powers in that sound guy's body.

I pointed out the Magneto reference to my friends, it took a while for it to sink in.

I don't know so far, as long as there isnøt anything as stupid as "deus-ex-machina-blood" then it'll be better that season 2.

mrblackmagic
27th September 08, 07:19 AM
Wait, what?

Ms. Patrelli knew the timeline where future Peter came from would disappear once they fixed it so any way when she told him to go back she was telling him to go to hell.

WarPhalange
27th September 08, 09:46 PM
http://www.funksatchel.com/images/cwargames.jpg

Now I know why Cullion wants to join the military.

boondock lee
27th September 08, 09:48 PM
Now I know why Cullion wants to join the military.

To "liberate" children's bicycles from the hands of terrorists?

IF that's the case, then sign me up.

AAAhmed46
27th September 08, 10:02 PM
That guy looks like he's having the time of his life.

Shawarma
28th September 08, 09:02 AM
I can't imagine how much it must suck to be wearing that much gear somewhere as hot as Iraq. Those dudes look like they're dressed for the South Pole.

KhorneliusPraxx
29th September 08, 07:40 AM
What was this thread about again?

mrblackmagic
29th September 08, 02:31 PM
The Bollywood version of the Fly.

HappyOldGuy
29th September 08, 11:52 PM
Okay, it's official. They are getting their groove back.

Neildo
30th September 08, 12:11 AM
hiro is starting to piss me off with his hapless weenieness. it's got to stop. soon.

HappyOldGuy
30th September 08, 12:22 AM
hiro is starting to piss me off with his hapless weenieness. it's got to stop. soon.

Yeah, that sucked some, but noah and skyler more than made up for it.

mrblackmagic
30th September 08, 07:44 AM
I pictured back in season 1 Skylar would switch sides. I just wasn't sure how.

KhorneliusPraxx
30th September 08, 08:11 AM
you assume too much...

interesting to see that the cheerleader's birthmother not only doesn't have to breathe but that she can produce fire that is not oxygen dependent either.

mrblackmagic
30th September 08, 10:07 AM
Not permanently just a temporary confederation with Peter. It happens with foil characters.

You're going to have lot learn to suspend belief better.. The most well thought out thing is the plot. Characters either feed that or feed Sylar. Everything else is just coincidence.

kungfujew
30th September 08, 05:27 PM
I was hoping Heroes would go back to being not shitty in the third season, but sweet jumping Jesus, that last episode was dumber than a bag of hammers. Poor, misunderestimated Sylar, but it's okay, him and Bennett are gonna be bestest buddies, performing all the "odd-couple-police-team" cliches until *GHASP*, Sylar immediately goes back to eating brains!?
CURSE YOUR SUDDEN BUT INEVITABLE BETRAYAL!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/Fireflyserenitypilot_wash.jpg/180px-Fireflyserenitypilot_wash.jpg
Also, as much as I enjoyed Claire getting all sweated up in a cargo container, that whole scene was pretty godamn pointless.

Neildo
30th September 08, 06:25 PM
I was hoping Heroes would go back to being not shitty in the third season, but sweet jumping Jesus, that last episode was dumber than a bag of hammers. Poor, misunderestimated Sylar, but it's okay, him and Bennett are gonna be bestest buddies, performing all the "odd-couple-police-team" cliches until *GHASP*, Sylar immediately goes back to eating brains!?

he doesn't eat the brains, he said so to claire in the last episode. still, i'm disappointed he didn't kill all the guys in the bank. the feeding off fear power is pretty badass. the magnetic guy sure was a pussy though.


Also, as much as I enjoyed Claire getting all sweated up in a cargo container, that whole scene was pretty godamn pointless.

i liked all the cleavage when they were walking up the the container, but yeah. pointless scene.

UpaLumpa
30th September 08, 07:06 PM
Fuck you hypercritical asshats.
I was entertained (except by the stupid container scene).
I too am waiting for hiro to grow a pair. We know he does, get to it.

Sun Wukong
30th September 08, 08:52 PM
I'm waiting for the writers to stop trying to tell 6 different stories in one episode while cribbing off of marvel comics for the last 15 years. it's getting to be a soap opera with gratuitous blood and gore.

also, serously, WTF is up with the caked on makeup on future claire?

mrblackmagic
1st October 08, 07:47 AM
i liked all the cleavage when they were walking up the the container, but yeah. pointless scene.

Breastessis are never pointless and we established how Syler/Claire can be killed. It's strange her mother knew that. Oh, wait. I sure some unexpected arch is going to occur where we find out she was one of the company's top agents.

KhorneliusPraxx
1st October 08, 11:37 AM
Also, as much as I enjoyed Claire getting all sweated up in a cargo container, that whole scene was pretty godamn pointless.
...but it proved that her birth mother doesn't need to breathe and that she produces fire that burns oxygen BUT doesn't need it to continue burning. Those are some damn fine abilities.

UpaLumpa
1st October 08, 11:48 AM
I'm waiting for the writers to stop trying to tell 6 different stories in one episode while cribbing off of marvel comics for the last 15 years. it's getting to be a soap opera with gratuitous blood and gore.

I agree there.



also, serously, WTF is up with the caked on makeup on future claire?

They're just trying to make her look older, to the disappointment of all you basement dwellers who like her in her cheerleader outfit.



Breastessis are never pointless and we established how Syler/Claire can be killed. It's strange her mother knew that. Oh, wait. I sure some unexpected arch is going to occur where we find out she was one of the company's top agents.


That doesn't necessarily kill her, actually. In the first season she "died" when she had a branch in her head. Once it was removed she woke up. Presumably once she has oxygen again she would be fine.

KhorneliusPraxx
1st October 08, 12:15 PM
I am assuming decapitation would do the trick...via future Hiro's katana.

partyboy
1st October 08, 02:53 PM
that's another thing... we see that the wolverine clones start to decompose when their brain gets futzed with, so how far gone can they go before they can't regenerate? down to the bones? ...dust?

plus, we've seen that limbs regrow, so if you decapitate one of them, does their body grow back over a long enough time? (the dream sequence with claire only showed her for a second) also, I'm assuming they can automatically reattach to their body if moved within close enough proximity after decapitation

so.....

they can't die

Stick
1st October 08, 04:26 PM
CURSE YOUR SUDDEN BUT INEVITABLE BETRAYAL!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/Fireflyserenitypilot_wash.jpg/180px-Fireflyserenitypilot_wash.jpg


Who gets rep?

You do, that's who.

Sirc
1st October 08, 08:09 PM
What a lot of you are missing is that Jeph Loeb is one of the people involved in this show's writing.

If you don't know about Jeph Loeb, let me tell you about him.

He's a faggot. The only thing he's decent at is every once in a while he'll write a decent mystery plot and he's really emo and loves his caked on emo lines.

Remember Claire's, "PAIN IS THE ONLY WAY I FEEL HUMAN!" line? That was Loeb's brilliant idea.

Loeb and Whedon, the perfect pair to turn anything mediocre.

kungfujew
1st October 08, 08:15 PM
Who gets rep?

You do, that's who.

I knew that when they knocked him off there'd be no coming back for the series...
*pours out a slug from my 40*
RIP Wash

Steve
1st October 08, 08:31 PM
No doubt. Wash was my favorite character on that show and they killed him off.

Fuck you, Serenity.

mrblackmagic
2nd October 08, 07:15 AM
I am assuming decapitation would do the trick...via future Hiro's katana.

But once the head got back on...unless the head never did get back on.

KhorneliusPraxx
2nd October 08, 08:48 AM
with these ludicrous powers it wouldn't be that hard. If I was Peter, I would cut of Gabriel's head. Immediately teleport back a couple of thousand years ago with his head in my hands. Fly into space and explode myself, and the head, with a super powered NU-KEW-LAR explosion. Then, if I survived all of that and could comeback, I would take the body a thousand years into the future and do the same thing.
Problem solved.

partyboy
2nd October 08, 11:22 AM
^ he used logic in a comic-book based tv show thread

ban plz

mrblackmagic
2nd October 08, 12:45 PM
^ he used logic in a comic-book based tv show thread

ban plz

Logic would be cutting the head off and melting it in sulfuric acid or Draino which ever was more readily available.

Praxx is just very imaginative.

KhorneliusPraxx
2nd October 08, 01:09 PM
and also pointing out how rediculous Gabriel and Peter's powers are.

partyboy
2nd October 08, 01:36 PM
but noise guy is supposedly 10x! more powerful than Sylar


*I think his power is to broadcast Numa Numa turned all the way up to 11 to ever single person on the planet

KhorneliusPraxx
2nd October 08, 01:51 PM
noise guy? the criminal with the Canary Cry?

well, if that is the case, Gabriel and Peter's powers are even more ludicrous since they both have his ability now too.

/KhorneliusPraxx rolls eyes.

mrblackmagic
3rd October 08, 08:10 AM
They don't even use most of them. I'm still waiting for the metal melt from season 1.

KhorneliusPraxx
3rd October 08, 08:53 AM
or the fact that people whisper because they don't know that Gabriel has SUPER hearing.
When Clair was hiding in the closet I kept waiting for him to say, "you can't hide from me because I can hear your racing heart beat." I think he forgot he can hear a flea shit at 100 paces.

partyboy
3rd October 08, 10:02 AM
or the fact that peter and sylar can see the future... but instead they give it to some african guy with a busted ass walkman??

KhorneliusPraxx
3rd October 08, 10:09 AM
See? Hell, Peter can go there!
We need to compile a list of all the powers they have in common and all the differences.
Common:
Immortal
Paint the Future
???
???
???

Gabriel:
Super Hearing
Liquify Metal
???
???

Peter:
Fly
Teleport through time AND space
Invisibility
???
???
???

mrblackmagic
3rd October 08, 10:18 AM
or the fact that people whisper because they don't know that Gabriel has SUPER hearing.
When Clair was hiding in the closet I kept waiting for him to say, "you can't hide from me because I can hear your racing heart beat." I think he forgot he can hear a flea shit at 100 paces.

LOL, I hadn't considered that.


Here's the list of Sylar's powers: original and gained.
Intuitive aptitude
Known abilities gained:
Telekinesis,
Freezing ,
Enhanced memory,
Melting,
Enhanced hearing,
Precognition,
Induced radioactivity,
Rapid cellular regeneration,
Alchemy,
Clairsentience,
Sound manipulation

Peter's Power.
Empathic mimicry
Known abilities mimicked:
Precognitive dreaming,
Flight,
Precognition,
Rapid cell regeneration,
Telepathy,
Invisibility,
Telekinesis,
Space-time manipulation,
Induced radioactivity,
Super strength,
Lightning,
Phasing

http://heroeswiki.com/Peter So Peter is still technically the strong, but to bitch made to capitalize.

UpaLumpa
3rd October 08, 12:22 PM
He lost a lot of those, if you'll recall.

KhorneliusPraxx
3rd October 08, 12:34 PM
it is hard to recall almost anything with this show

mrblackmagic
3rd October 08, 01:01 PM
He lost a lot of those, if you'll recall.

He being who? Oh, Sylar. I forgot. Wait, didn't Claire's healing factor fix all of that.

KhorneliusPraxx
3rd October 08, 01:07 PM
Touché

mrblackmagic
3rd October 08, 01:26 PM
Well, that is why he was looking for her.

UpaLumpa
3rd October 08, 03:17 PM
He was looking for her because she is immortal. I don't recall any suggestion that he got all his old powers back as a result. Maybe I missed something but I don't think I did.

UpaLumpa
3rd October 08, 03:17 PM
Also, since his powers were stolen, there is no reason her healing would give them back. They weren't intrinsic to him.

mrblackmagic
4th October 08, 07:07 AM
But he was able to retain his telekinesis, which also wasn't intrinsic. And he did steal the antidote to the virus from Mohinder that he created for Nikki in season two.


Jesus, we're arguing about a plot hole. We'll just have to see how this plays out.

EuropIan
4th October 08, 07:11 AM
How about the fact that brain patterns determines powers?

mrblackmagic
7th October 08, 10:51 AM
Mohinder is a lil cock-a-roach

Future Claire has teh denial.

Sylar's power is the source of teh crazies.

I would hate to be the writers who have to penn the last two episodes of the season. Sheesh.

KhorneliusPraxx
7th October 08, 11:13 AM
I will continue to watch, out of curiosity, but I am starting to hate this shit.

KhorneliusPraxx
7th October 08, 11:20 AM
What happened to the Claire's boy friend that could fly?
What happened to the teenage girl in New Orleans that had the photographic reflexes?

EuropIan
7th October 08, 11:37 AM
THAT NEVER HAPPENED.



http://www.osullivansystems.com/images/hypnotoad.gif

NOW WATCH CLAIRE'S ASS SOME MORE.

partyboy
7th October 08, 12:02 PM
what happened to irish chick? what happened to maya being more than a cockroach-fucker? why hasn't she gone after sylar for killing her brother? what happened to claude, the invisible man? why do the nikki sisters all suck? how can peter lose any fight against anyone but sylar? how come future peter went down like such a bitch? why do the characters always seem so forgetful?

...and the list goes on

Phrost
7th October 08, 03:38 PM
Because it's a show on Network TV.

You all should know better.

mrblackmagic
7th October 08, 04:11 PM
That's why I feel bad for whoever has to write the last two episodes. They are throwing everything and the kitchen sink into this season. It won't come together until the very end if it does at all.

Cockroach-fucker. LOL.

RickTheCritic
7th October 08, 06:59 PM
umm dont flame me but how could furture peter die? He has regen!?!?!?!

Sun Wukong
7th October 08, 07:16 PM
I think if the Haitian is there to cancel out Peter's powers then maybe he can't regenerate. It seems like they are just trying to correct shit to me. There were a lot of bullshit things in the last episode which basically boils down to how the alternate future plot device is bullshit.

Basically, because there are an infinite number of alternate futures they can write any crazy bullshit they want and keep a dead story line alive infinitely... which is boring as all shit.

When Heroes fails, it will be blamed on a loss of interest in the comic book genre, and not on where it really belongs, bad writers.

All this alternate timeline crap is what overloaded the X-Men comic books and drove out a lot of long time fans. You can't keep a story revolving around could be's and futuristic imperatives. Time travel is too big of a can of worms, and fans are going to figure it out.

Surely there are heroes out there that can't see glimpses of possible apocalypse's around every corner.

That's why Ashton Kutcher killed himself in the movie "Butterfly Effect"; the central plot device to keep the story alive was used up.

UpaLumpa
7th October 08, 07:45 PM
He didn't kill himself in the movie.

RickTheCritic
7th October 08, 07:48 PM
hmmm Heroes is rly starting to fall part, to many characters to many plot holes it seems

Ill still watch it nothing better to do on mondays

EuropIan
7th October 08, 07:59 PM
He didn't kill himself in the movie.
Directors cut ending. Which is the only ending I've seen.

Didn't even know there was another ending until now.

Sirc
8th October 08, 12:18 AM
http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/788/jephsucksballs.PNG

This is also why it sucks.

Steve
8th October 08, 01:35 AM
umm dont flame me but how could furture peter die? He has regen!?!?!?!

Claire is the only one that can't die, she's special, remember? I haven't seen anyone outside of Adam coming back from real death, perhaps that is why he is "the key" and why Hiro had to dig him up?

mrblackmagic
8th October 08, 07:26 AM
Steve, remember in season 2 when he had a shard of broken glass in his head from his second failed fight with Sylar? Yes, that's another plothole.




http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/788/jephsucksballs.PNG

This is also why it sucks.

I did notice that too.

Sun Wukong
8th October 08, 07:33 AM
SONUVA BITCH! I didn't notice that shit.

GOD DAMN IT! Somebody, please, get the fuck, rid of LOEB.


CRAP > DOO DOO > POOP > SHIT > Festering anal Lesions > LOEB


god damn it.

UpaLumpa
8th October 08, 10:33 AM
Directors cut ending. Which is the only ending I've seen.

Didn't even know there was another ending until now.

That sounds like an even better ending.
I'm mildly embarrassed to admit I enjoyed that movie quite a bit.

Sirc
8th October 08, 11:44 AM
SONUVA BITCH! I didn't notice that shit.

GOD DAMN IT! Somebody, please, get the fuck, rid of LOEB.


CRAP > DOO DOO > POOP > SHIT > Festering anal Lesions > LOEB


god damn it.

They threw it in there really quickly hoping nobody would notice because all the comic book fans want his head on a platter for what he's done to Ultimates.

FUCK YOU LOEB!

RickTheCritic
8th October 08, 06:13 PM
They threw it in there really quickly hoping nobody would notice because all the comic book fans want his head on a platter for what he's done to Ultimates.

FUCK YOU LOEB!

Its easy to ridicule some one but could you do better? If this guy is as bad as you guys say he is then probably yes but always keep that in mind.

Was this Loeb guy the same guy who produced the first season?

Sun Wukong
8th October 08, 06:19 PM
what happened to irish chick? what happened to maya being more than a cockroach-fucker? why hasn't she gone after sylar for killing her brother? what happened to claude, the invisible man? why do the nikki sisters all suck? how can peter lose any fight against anyone but sylar? how come future peter went down like such a bitch? why do the characters always seem so forgetful?

...and the list goes on

Continuity... on a Network TV show? Screw that, making scripts progress logically removes all the guesswork from 180 degree plot shifts. After all, you really only see about 8 minutes per character, per episode, and to make the audience forget what was going on with a character in the last episode, all they have to do is write that one guy out of the script for about a week. Blam-o, then all the guy has to do is feign dramatic shift in attitude since we last saw him and they can justify anything.

TA-DA!

Sun Wukong
8th October 08, 06:33 PM
Its easy to ricule some one but could you do better? If this guy is as bad as you guys say he is then probably yes but always keep that in mind.

Was this Loeb guy the same guy who produced the first season?


It's not that Sirc has to be better than Loeb at Loeb's job since Loeb's job is to help create a story that people like.

When the hardcore fans start falling away from a project in Sci-fi (or comic books for that matter), that project is doomed. When readership falls off, sales and marketing people will want to know why. When they investigate and see that what they thought was golden calf is in fact just a warm cow pie that person will be dropped and if the budget permits, they will salvage it in the best way they can.

I'm not always a fan of Kevin Smith's comic writing, but I think his style of writing would fit better for a show like heroes.

When are we going to see a major ass kicker character instead of more invincible cheerleader bullshit. The best they have is a scrawny black dude who gets his powers from fear and the uber twins Peter and Gabriel.

Wait... Peter... Gabriel...


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mrblackmagic
8th October 08, 08:21 PM
Hmm? Heroes: Basics. After this season, they may have to.

KhorneliusPraxx
8th October 08, 10:39 PM
To me the coolest is the chick with the photographic reflexes...that is why I want to know where she went.

partyboy
8th October 08, 10:45 PM
Wait... Peter... Gabriel...

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Sirc
9th October 08, 01:17 AM
Jeph Loeb, next to Joss Whedon is the worst thing ever to happen to Super Hero continuity.

mrblackmagic
9th October 08, 07:26 AM
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Sun Wukong
9th October 08, 04:18 PM
Jeph Loeb, next to Joss Whedon is the worst thing ever to happen to Super Hero continuity.

I liked that thing he did with Dr Horribles Sing along blog, but that was intentionally silly and light hearted, which I like. I don't mind that kind of thing when it is the real focus of a story plot, it's just when that kind of thing trickles into stories that are otherwise meant to be and stay serious and sober.

RickTheCritic
9th October 08, 06:44 PM
To me the coolest is the chick with the photographic reflexes...that is why I want to know where she went.

for pure badassery the black guy is my fav. I would of done his power differently, how so? Well I would of had him have a super adrealine rush, im talking stronger +faster reflexes when ever he senses fear around him

Sun Wukong
10th October 08, 02:11 AM
The reason why the black dude is lame is because he has super strength, but he's not invulnerable or bullet proof.

Basically he can kill people who are within arms reach. That's what it would be like if your super power was to carry a shotgun filled with birdshot.

mrblackmagic
10th October 08, 07:26 AM
I thought of him as a cliched version of Powerhaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerhaus) from DV8.

mrblackmagic
14th October 08, 07:08 AM
All I can really say about last night's episode is:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF DUMBASSES1!!

KhorneliusPraxx
14th October 08, 07:35 AM
call me old-fashioned but I rather like stories where the good-guys are good and the bad-guys are bad. :-(

HappyOldGuy
14th October 08, 11:01 AM
call me old-fashioned but I rather like stories where the good-guys are good and the bad-guys are bad. :-(
I like my heroes conflicted and manipulated, but it really doesn't work for Hiro. That scene wrecked the spisode for me.

KhorneliusPraxx
14th October 08, 11:04 AM
I figured he thought he could just go back in time and save him later...again, some of the powers are too powerful.

mrblackmagic
14th October 08, 04:02 PM
I figured he thought he could just go back in time and save him later...again, some of the powers are too powerful.

After last nights episode, I think the writers are becoming aware of this too. Between the not-so-bad-but-to-dangerous-to-be-walking-around vortex guy and Hiro's insistence on creating a self-fufilling prophecy, I expect to Arthur Petrelli to be the Beyonder of the Heroes universe.

BTW, Robert Forster. LOL.

kungfujew
14th October 08, 04:37 PM
Saw last night's episode. The stupid... it BURRRNNNSS!

AAAhmed46
14th October 08, 08:45 PM
I like my heroes conflicted and manipulated, but it really doesn't work for Hiro. That scene wrecked the spisode for me.

I also like my heroes conflicted and manipulated....if it's within the parameters of their personality and experience, it has to make sense.

With Hiro it made no damn sense. It was random.

EVERYONE this season is so damn random.

Maya basically doesn't care about her brothers death.

Peter forgot about his irish lady.

Too much doesn't make sense.

AAAhmed46
21st October 08, 12:00 AM
I missed the beginning.

HOw did ando survive?

HappyOldGuy
21st October 08, 12:25 AM
They didn't really explain it, they just sorta handwaved it with a comment about going back in time.

Other than that incredibly lame ass bit, I actually liked alot about this episode. Actually other than that bit and my growing annoyance with peter the badass, I really liked this episode alot, especially the scenes with puppet guy. You knew how it was going to end, but i still liked it alot.

AAAhmed46
21st October 08, 12:35 AM
I loved how it ended.

Neildo
21st October 08, 01:11 AM
i don't think adam is coming back this time.

RickTheCritic
21st October 08, 08:44 AM
Let me get this straight they replaced one overpowered character with an other. But atleast thier trying, Its like the producers read this thread and made a list of everything wrong with the show. We got time traveling peter dead, Peter 2 unpowered and skyler out of comission.

I see potential.

mrblackmagic
21st October 08, 09:11 AM
Once, Arthur was back in the picture. I assumed

1. He was going to get everyone together just to take their powers.

2. Peter and Sylar would fight him to get it back

3. They would then fight each other

4. Some how everything goes back to zero (a la time distortion) or everybody, except the winner loses their power.

mrblackmagic
21st October 08, 09:19 AM
I missed the beginning.

HOw did ando survive?

Fake sword; fake blood.

KhorneliusPraxx
21st October 08, 10:55 PM
Gabriel adds your power by touching your brain, which usually kills you.
Peter adds your power by being around you, which leaves you unaffected.
Mr. Petrelli adds your power by touching your body, which also takes away your power.
Now, Gabriel will be much better off if he touches Mr. Petrelli's brain, then he could gain powers with out killing other people.
...but, if Mr. Petrelli could touch Gabriel first and gain his powers and nullify that creepy bastard.

this show is making my head hurt.

Final Scene: Peter walks in, now has super speed, fear induced strength, flame powers and the ability to steal powers by touching them. Peter and Father hug. Does Peter gain/drain fathers additional powers while Father gains/drains Peter's additional powers, thus having both of them end up with completely different and new additional powers. Or...should they both be stripped of power and walk away normal. or...the questions are endless. If Peter's powers where drained, why does he have the same ones in the future... AAARRGGGHHH!

Steve
22nd October 08, 04:34 AM
Yep, I knew that I wouldn't have to worry about spoilers.

Such a clusterfuck.

KhorneliusPraxx
22nd October 08, 09:06 AM
I guy I work with had a good suggestion. He thinks the show is so confusing that they should start it like they use to begin Soap™ back in the 70s.

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mrblackmagic
22nd October 08, 10:27 AM
Arthur drained Peter's innate empathic power along with his acquired powers.

Peter and Sylar switching roles would have been a welcomed change. I think it might have add some depth to the characters and street cred back to the show. Oh, well.


Also, Robert Forester. LOL.

KhorneliusPraxx
22nd October 08, 01:17 PM
but wait...Peter gained Arthur's power by simply entering the room...so when they touched Peter gained his innate and acquired powers. wee...confusion for the win.
That would be a cool way to go. Essentially, they just traded places.

Actually, I wish their powers just nullified each other and they just become normal jackasses instead of megapowered ones.

mrblackmagic
22nd October 08, 01:35 PM
What's so difficult about it? Arthur took all of his powers. By taking away his empathic abilities he can't get any new ones.

KhorneliusPraxx
22nd October 08, 02:21 PM
but he had his power too just by being next to him.so...so ...

besides, he didn't lose his powers because he still has them in the future. Touché!

mrblackmagic
22nd October 08, 08:33 PM
Angela said future Peter created the current timeline by shooting Nathan.

EuropIan
24th October 08, 05:30 AM
This show is dumb.

Why are you so dumb, show?

Sun Wukong
24th October 08, 06:13 AM
The show is in serious trouble. Sylar's now a good guy and Peter is a lose cannon psychopath... oy vey.

Cliche and recycled concepts. What the FUCK is up with the PAINTING? And what the fuck is up with the recycled plot devices?

They keep running the badguys based on one-up-manship. Magneto wasn't a badass because he was way more powerful than everyone else, he was a badass because he was seriously twisted and thought in giant, but straight forward grand plans of global importance.

The new super dudes are fucking lame.

What's your power?

Oh, I'm sorta strong sometimes but only when people are afraid of me, but I'm not invulnerable or anything. The rest of the time I'm a skinny black dude. That nobody with any balls would ever be scared of just because I kinda look like a stiff breeze could blow me over.

HUh... OK... Nikki twin. Cool, you're a clone. Like Madeline Pryor. What's your power?

I freeze stuff.

COOL! Like ice man? Can you shoot frost beams or make objects out of ice?

no...

Ok, can you slide around on an ice sled to imitate limited flight powers?

no...

Ok, can you like, turn your body into solid ice or make ice armor or make everything around you super super cold?

Uh, no, I can only freeze stuff I'm touching.

So, like, totally you can only destroy things you're actually touching at the time and are totally fucked if somebody points a gun at you.


Damn it. Ok, contestant number three... what's your power?

I steal other peoples powers.

Oh, you mean like, I dunno, two of the other characters we ALREADY have on the show?

Yeah.. but I'm special because I'm the BIG BAD EVIL GUY for the entire season.

Like Sylar was for like, two seasons in a row?

uh, yeah, sorta.


Alright, FOURTH times the charm.

Cool, you're a black guy that lives in a remote part of Africa far away from civlized man. Freaking awesome background story there.

Let me guess, you're a badass shapeshifter or you can control animals...

OH OH I got it! You can call upon the powers of wild beasts to perform superhuman feats of strength and prowess!!

AWESOME, this show doesn't have ANYBODY who really fits the bill of total ASSKICKING LEGENDARY NINJA STATUS.

You're like Tarzan of Greystoke on super steroids: faster than a cheetah, stronger than an elephant, tougher than a rhinocerous and more ferocious and stately than a regal Saharan Lion!

Uh... Yeah... I paint stuff from the future.

YOU FUCKING DO WHAT? DIDN'T the white YOU, like fucking DIE in the 1st SEASON? GOD DAMN IT, OH MOTHER FUCKING FUCK, FUCK, FUCKERS!!!!! AHHAHAHAHAAHAHHHHH!!!!!

MUST FIRE WRITERS!!!! REPLACE WITH WRITERS THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, KNOW HOW TO WRITE NEW MATERIAL!!!!!

KhorneliusPraxx
24th October 08, 07:52 AM
I am trying to figure out how Parkman was able to get that wild african tortoise, on the plane and passed all the various checkpoints he would have had to go through. I guess he used his powers. That was kind of cute and it is just a superhero show so I'm not looking for absolute realism. :-)

As for Sun Wukong complaining about weak powers...I don't believe in such a thing. Any power makes them special and have a purpose. The show could have be the Legion of Substitute Heroes and I would have loved it. The problem isn't the lame powers, it is the MEGA POWERS (Hiro and the Petrellis).

As for somebody who really fits the bill of total ASSKICKING LEGENDARY NINJA STATUS. I think the teenager in New Orleans with the photographic reflexes could have fit that bill but I guess she isn't on the show anymore. She was the one character that I had high hopes for and therefore she isn't around anymore.

mrblackmagic
24th October 08, 07:59 AM
Neither is the invisible man from season one.

mrblackmagic
28th October 08, 07:27 AM
"I am better, Peter. It's a fact not a belief."


Basically he can kill people who are within arms reach. That's what it would be like if your super power was to carry a shotgun filled with birdshot.

I think the writers really are reading our threads.

Phrost
28th October 08, 01:46 PM
It's network TV. Watch FX or one of the premium cable channels if you want shows that aren't fucked in the ass by out-of-touch studio executives.

KhorneliusPraxx
28th October 08, 02:40 PM
what if one refuses to pay for television?

JudOWNED
28th October 08, 05:54 PM
I gotta admit, I was a huge fan of the show. However, too many characters, too much flip-flopping of roles, too much reliance on time travel and future guy/past guy memes and too convoluted a plot have made me lose interest. Last week I barely watched it while surfing the internet and this week I didn't watch it at all, opting instead to continue reading the Winter King. And that right there is the death knell for me watching this show. Because this is the type of show that if you miss even one episode you can really lose track of the plot.

HappyOldGuy
28th October 08, 05:58 PM
This week was actually better than it has been for a couple, but it's still teetering on the edge.

partyboy
28th October 08, 10:12 PM
why doesn't petrelli sr have sylar's hunger?

KhorneliusPraxx
29th October 08, 07:45 AM
he hasn't taken his powers.

partyboy
29th October 08, 08:33 AM
he took peter's powers... peter had sylar's hunger

why doesn't he have the hunger?

KhorneliusPraxx
29th October 08, 09:46 AM
Oh yah?!...Well...I think...you...

A hell, this show makes my head hurt.

mrblackmagic
29th October 08, 10:40 AM
He has Maya's power too, but he complete control over all his powers because he's Robert Fucking Forster!!!

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partyboy
29th October 08, 02:01 PM
I would have been totally ok with him killing maya with her own power. Because I know they'll bring her back by introducing her "twin".

mrblackmagic
29th October 08, 02:37 PM
Don't you mean triplet?

Phrost
29th October 08, 03:35 PM
What's the true shame, is that once this show tanks, the execs will get the wrong message: that this kind of genre isn't profitable. Not that this particular show was a goatfuck.

Plasma
29th October 08, 07:17 PM
why doesn't petrelli sr have sylar's hunger?


More important, when Peter was trying to escape, why didn't Petrelli Sr. just STOP TIME instead of ineffective shooting him with lightning?

partyboy
29th October 08, 08:32 PM
half the time I'm just screaming at the screen, "USE YOUR FUCKING POWERS, YOU IDIOT CUNT" because 90% of the dumb/bad things that happen to characters can be avoided with simple uses of their abilities

KhorneliusPraxx
29th October 08, 10:32 PM
More important, when Peter was trying to escape, why didn't Petrelli Sr. just STOP TIME instead of ineffective shooting him with lightning?
too be honest...he may not know what powers he absorbed. He saw Peter using electricity and he used electricity. Let's hope he doesn't find you the has the most powerful power of the all...manipulation of the space time continuum.

mrblackmagic
30th October 08, 09:52 AM
Obviously, he let Peter go as ploy that will be revealed in the next episode. My money tells me time manipulation is involved.

Phrost
30th October 08, 09:54 AM
Fuck this show. This would have been decent if there had only been one character with power absorption abilities, and he was killed off in season 1.

At least the X-Men writers had enough sense to make Rogue's power absorption temporary, and extremely unpleasant for both parties.

KhorneliusPraxx
30th October 08, 10:09 AM
Temporary?...don't tell that to Ms. Marvel.

Phrost
30th October 08, 05:06 PM
Temporary?...don't tell that to Ms. Marvel.

Well it rightly fucked her up pretty good at least. And they used it in the correct manner: to get rid of a shitty character nobody cared about.

AAAhmed46
30th October 08, 06:47 PM
+ rep for you phrost.

mrblackmagic
31st October 08, 08:14 AM
Fuck this show. This would have been decent if there had only been one character with power absorption abilities, and he was killed off in season 1.

At least the X-Men writers had enough sense to make Rogue's power absorption temporary, and extremely unpleasant for both parties.

But then the show can't have it's inevitable showdown when Peter and Sylar team up to take down Arthur and then fight each other for God like supremacy of the earth that results in the everybody losing their powers.

......I hope they pick up a whole new cast next season.

partyboy
31st October 08, 08:43 AM
But then the show can't have it's inevitable showdown when Peter and Sylar team up to take down Arthur and then fight each other for God like supremacy of the earth that results in the everybody loosing their powers.

......I hope they pick up a whole new cast next season.

I'll vote for that.

Then claire, maya, the nikki triplets and the fire-MILF could go off and do a porn together to stave off bankruptcy

mrblackmagic
31st October 08, 09:13 AM
I'll vote for that.

Then claire, maya, the nikki triplets and the fire-MILF could go off and do a porn together to stave off bankruptcy

I can appreciate such a fall from grace.

MrBadGuy
31st October 08, 03:53 PM
I knew this show was going to be shit back when it kept going "Save the cheerleader....save the world"

HappyOldGuy
31st October 08, 03:54 PM
I knew this show was going to be shit back when it kept going "Save the cheerleader....save the world"

Except that part wasn't shit at all.

JudOWNED
31st October 08, 04:12 PM
No, that was cool. Stop Syler from becoming immortal so he could be defeated. Which he was. The show went to shit the minute they brought him back.

MrBadGuy
31st October 08, 04:28 PM
Emphasis on going. I made it all the way through the first season before Nikki's bullshit annoyed me off of the damn show.

Phrost
31st October 08, 05:00 PM
But then the show can't have it's inevitable showdown when Peter and Sylar team up to take down Arthur and then fight each other for God like supremacy of the earth that results in the everybody losing their powers.

......I hope they pick up a whole new cast next season.
Except Noah, because he and his compensated 1911 are the only things worth a damn on this show.

Edit: hell, they should just make it about him hunting down "heroes".

boondock lee
1st November 08, 12:15 AM
No, that was cool. Stop Syler from becoming immortal so he could be defeated. Which he was. The show went to shit the minute they brought him back.

Sylar is pretty much the only reason why Heroes is still worth watching.

mrblackmagic
1st November 08, 09:22 AM
Except Noah, because he and his compensated 1911 are the only things worth a damn on this show.

Edit: hell, they should just make it about him hunting down "heroes".

Agreed. Noah and Sylar doing the superpowered men in black thing was the most entertaining arc of the last two seasons.

It's the old "they can save the world if they don't kill each other first" formula. But come on. A reformed superpowered serial killer and a secret agent/ suburban dad could milk at least two more seasons.

Yiktin Voxbane
1st November 08, 09:28 AM
Sylar and Peter will merge into one giant super-being, it is at that stage Noah will transform into some sort of Avatar and banish the recently merged dynamic duo with a simple thought and subtle hand gesture .

After of course he goes on to host a chat show that anihalates Ellen/Oprah/Letterman .

JudOWNED
1st November 08, 10:19 AM
Sylar is pretty much the only reason why Heroes is still worth watching.

It has nothing to do with the character, though. Killing off characters and then bringing them back automatically kills any sense of progression or accomplishment in the plot. It's the same plot device that ruined the Wheel of Time. The only place it works is in actual comics, because those are never ending serials that constantly "reboot" anyway.

KhorneliusPraxx
1st November 08, 11:50 AM
I remember in the 80's being annoyed at Marvel. Back then, somebody would die in the DC universe and they would be dead. Whenever someone died in the Marvel Universe, they were perfectly fine 6 months later.

partyboy
1st November 08, 12:05 PM
shows should never be afraid to kill off characters...


for the love of shiva I wish they would annihilate nikki already

Neildo
1st November 08, 05:45 PM
me too. ali larter is hot and everything, but kill that useless character already.

KhorneliusPraxx
1st November 08, 06:31 PM
...but aren't you interested in seeing what the third one can do?

Neildo
1st November 08, 06:45 PM
no. they should focus on the characters that aren't fucking lame.

mrblackmagic
2nd November 08, 10:49 AM
no. they should focus on the characters that aren't fucking lame.

That's a short list and getting shorter.

Kiko
2nd November 08, 11:00 AM
They're all NPCs, right? KILL 'em!

Aaranar
3rd November 08, 09:36 PM
And heads did roll...

Heroes Producers Fired

NBC's Heroes fired co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb, who had been with the show since its first season, on Nov. 2 in a surprise shakeup, Variety reported.

The two were known to have led the day-to-day production operation under the direction of creator/executive producer Tim Kring, the trade paper reported.

Heroes has struggled in the ratings in its third season. It's understood that Alexander and Loeb were let go because of the network's frustration with the creative direction of the show, the trade paper reported. The show is also said to have been grappling with hefty budget overruns this season, which are going well beyond its already sizable $4 million per-episode price tag.

Representatives for NBC and Universal Media Studios, which produces the show, declined to comment to Variety. (NBC and Universal Media are owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)

Source : http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=61856&type=0

Neildo
3rd November 08, 10:15 PM
Sirc is gonna be so happy.

partyboy
3rd November 08, 10:18 PM
And heads did roll...

Heroes Producers Fired

NBC's Heroes fired co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb, who had been with the show since its first season, on Nov. 2 in a surprise shakeup, Variety reported.

The two were known to have led the day-to-day production operation under the direction of creator/executive producer Tim Kring, the trade paper reported.

Heroes has struggled in the ratings in its third season. It's understood that Alexander and Loeb were let go because of the network's frustration with the creative direction of the show, the trade paper reported. The show is also said to have been grappling with hefty budget overruns this season, which are going well beyond its already sizable $4 million per-episode price tag.

Representatives for NBC and Universal Media Studios, which produces the show, declined to comment to Variety. (NBC and Universal Media are owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)

Source : http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=61856&type=0

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partyboy
3rd November 08, 10:19 PM
^ fuck

Neildo
4th November 08, 01:59 AM
fuck!




no new episode tonight. stupid fuckin election!

mrblackmagic
11th November 08, 08:32 AM
And the plot holes get thicker...I mean wider.



Robert Forster is good. L-O-L.

KhorneliusPraxx
11th November 08, 09:05 AM
...and now, you get to see what all the behind the scenes puppet masters were doing...TWO SEASONS ago.

partyboy
11th November 08, 10:59 AM
great clip episode! I mean, we really learned a lot....er.... something....er....not really anything new

it was nice to hear hiro scream like a little girl one more time though

KhorneliusPraxx
11th November 08, 11:34 AM
you noticed that it ended there...making us assume that he was taking his powers.

I assume that that he will freeze time in a panic and step out or his grasp.

If old man Petrelli gains Hiro's, the most powerful of all, powers...I will cry bullshit and throw something at the TV.

Wait, he already has Hiro's powers...I forgot. I guess he doesn't realize he has them or what they do yet?

partyboy
11th November 08, 01:17 PM
he already has hiro's powers from peter, meaning time CAN'T be stopped in his presence

or else the writers could go against what they already wrote, which is what I'm expecting

Ajamil
11th November 08, 01:34 PM
WHAT?? where is this new webisode?? when did Hiro get touched by Petrelli?? SHOW ME ON THE DOLL WHERE HE TOUCHED YOU, HIRO!!

mrblackmagic
11th November 08, 02:39 PM
Considering the African guy, god rest his soul, made this big deal about Hiro learning to solve problems without using his powers. It's safe to say that was all part of the plan.

KhorneliusPraxx
11th November 08, 03:42 PM
Why stop time when a simple knee to the balls will do the trick.

Aaranar
11th November 08, 08:02 PM
The only thing that could save this show now would be an Ultimate Surrender match between Claire and Elle.

mrblackmagic
12th November 08, 08:38 AM
The only thing that could save this show now would be an Ultimate Surrender match between Claire and Elle.

Have some +rep on me.

Sun Wukong
13th November 08, 02:17 AM
That's a short list and getting shorter.


that's a really, really fucking short list.

Cause as far as I know it's pretty much down to Hiro and Ando.

Sun Wukong
13th November 08, 02:20 AM
What's the true shame, is that once this show tanks, the execs will get the wrong message: that this kind of genre isn't profitable. Not that this particular show was a goatfuck.

Phrost for the win here. that's exactly what's going to happen.

Media producers only see the most shallow formulaic bullshit path to money making. Which is why they thought "The Bionic Woman" was going to be a break away hit rather than a one note swan song... which anyone with half a brain could see coming after the first episode.

HappyOldGuy
13th November 08, 03:37 PM
Phrost for the win here. that's exactly what's going to happen.

Media producers only see the most shallow formulaic bullshit path to money making. Which is why they thought "The Bionic Woman" was going to be a break away hit rather than a one note swan song... which anyone with half a brain could see coming after the first episode.

I actually liked Bionic Woman :(

Arhetton
13th November 08, 07:09 PM
I haven't watched an episode of this since the opening pilot for season one, but last night I watched some episode where the african dude made hiro eat poo or something, the two blondes had a days of our lives session and the male leads had an emo session.

I think this show has too many character arcs, its the same reason LOST is fucking annoying. You watch it for a while, get into it, then realize its like that girl who's just a cock tease - you're never going to get to the good stuff.

thankfully I stopped watching it a long time ago.

mrblackmagic
14th November 08, 08:35 AM
Heroes actually has a direction, but the character arcs are getting tedious.

mrblackmagic
14th November 08, 08:44 AM
Why stop time when a simple knee to the balls will do the trick.

I could just see Robert Forster moaning and then saying;" oh gahd, right in Jahck Rahbinsen.

I'm sorry I missed this joke.

RickTheCritic
15th November 08, 01:52 PM
Im officially done with Heroes the only way to salvage this concept is to hastily finish this series off,then create a spinoff show called Heroes alternate timelines. This series would go back to season 1-2 and answer the question, what if the bomb actually blow up all of new york. This gives the series a chance to cut the cast in half and start a new.

So whats your opinions people?

mrblackmagic
15th November 08, 02:37 PM
But then the show can't have it's inevitable showdown when Peter and Sylar team up to take down Arthur and then fight each other for God like supremacy of the earth that results in the everybody losing their powers.

......I hope they pick up a whole new cast next season.

Way ahead of you.

Aaranar
15th November 08, 02:58 PM
So whats your opinions people?

The only reason it hasn't been canceled yet is because the product placement contract hasn't run it's course, or reached an opt out stage.

Before you get your hopes up for anything awesome in the remaining episodes, they blew their effects budget in like the second or third episode. Whichever one had the bank fight scene.

RickTheCritic
15th November 08, 03:07 PM
The only reason it hasn't been canceled yet is because the product placement contract hasn't run it's course, or reached an opt out stage.

Before you get your hopes up for anything awesome in the remaining episodes, they blew their effects budget in like the second or third episode. Whichever one had the bank fight scene.

I think you dont know what I mean. They they should end the season and the series, then create a spin off show which I already explained. I dont want an entirely new cast I want to cull a good 2/3's of the cast and useless story arc.

EuropIan
17th November 08, 08:42 AM
But then the show can't have it's inevitable showdown when Peter and Sylar team up to take down Arthur and then fight each other for God like supremacy of the earth that results in the everybody losing their powers.

......I hope they pick up a whole new cast next season.
.
That's some DBZ-shit right there.

KhorneliusPraxx
17th November 08, 10:33 AM
Since Hiro is incapable of doing anything right...I hope he is saved by Ando beaning that evil bastard in the temple with a rock. Hey, baseball is big in Japan...maybe he pitched during his school days.

mrblackmagic
17th November 08, 03:36 PM
That's some DBZ-shit right there.

And you think they wouldn't do it too?

EuropIan
17th November 08, 03:49 PM
/mrblackmagic casts fear

mrblackmagic
18th November 08, 12:21 AM
I am disappointed.

Neildo
18th November 08, 03:28 AM
Yeah i'm pretty much done with this show. it's pretty obvious nothing cool is going to happen until the last episode, and then it will last about 30 seconds after like 35 minutes of annoying build-up.

Shows about superheroes should be nothing but said heroes blasting the ever-living shit out of each other with their powers. that basically NEVER happens in this show.

HappyOldGuy
18th November 08, 02:24 PM
Seems like we have an opening coming up next week to clean house by shooting alot of these idiots while they don't have powers.

Although wtf does an eclipse have to do with their powers?

KhorneliusPraxx
18th November 08, 02:45 PM
How is the comic book still predicting their future if the artist that made that comic, with the assistance of his power, hasn't been alive for the last year?

partyboy
18th November 08, 03:02 PM
How is the comic book still predicting their future if the artist that made that comic, with the assistance of his power, hasn't been alive for the last year?

his triplet brother is doing it...


my new rant:
where the shit is the Haitian? I've got our solution right here - Haitian walks into the villain's lair in full SWAT gear packing an M249, mows down everyone in it, walks on his merry way

also, how long until they figure out that all they need to do to give peter his powers back (and hiro's memories) is to stick claire's deus-ex-machina blood back into their systems?

KhorneliusPraxx
18th November 08, 03:13 PM
I'm sure they want to swap bodily fluids with the underage high school student (I guess drop-out now) but blood isn't what they had in mind.

KhorneliusPraxx
18th November 08, 03:22 PM
I still wanna know what ever happened to Claire's high school boyfriend that could fly and especially, what ever happened to Monica Dawson, Micah's cousing in New Orleans, the one with the photographic reflexes.

Neildo
18th November 08, 04:54 PM
my new rant:
where the shit is the Haitian? I've got our solution right here - Haitian walks into the villain's lair in full SWAT gear packing an M249, mows down everyone in it, walks on his merry way



You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to partyboy again.




How is the comic book still predicting their future if the artist that made that comic, with the assistance of his power, hasn't been alive for the last year?

I said the same thing to my friend. But the now dead african had the same power as issac, and who painted the cracking planet in the alley? there are obviously other people with the same ability, and if someone sent more issues to the publisher of the comic then it would make sense that they would print it.

Kiko
18th November 08, 06:04 PM
Damn, this thing sounds like a bad soap opera with super powers.

Neildo
18th November 08, 06:08 PM
that would be accurate.

partyboy
18th November 08, 06:20 PM
Damn, this thing sounds like a bad soap opera with super powers.

yeah, it's getting to be pretty sad...

my recommendations for GOOD (& nerdy) tv shows:
Dexter
House
The Unit
Terminator
True Blood


...speaking of which, where the hell is the thread on here for Dexter?

Neildo
18th November 08, 06:24 PM
Stick made one back in season 1 i think.

I saw some terminator last night, i've been avoiding that one despite summer glau. it's a soap opera, with terminators. and not much terminatin' action going on either.

Hugh laurie is awesome.

The Unit makes me want to play SOCOM.

not a big vampire fan, staying away from true blood.

KhorneliusPraxx
19th November 08, 08:55 AM
I refuse to watch The Sarah Connor Chronicles for the same reason I refused to watch Highlander: the TV show.

mrblackmagic
19th November 08, 09:25 AM
Seems like we have an opening coming up next week to clean house by shooting alot of these idiots while they don't have powers.

Although wtf does an eclipse have to do with their powers?

It had something to do with bonding proteans or enzymes. Uhmm...nothing.





I still wanna know what ever happened to Claire's high school boyfriend that could fly and especially, what ever happened to Monica Dawson, Micah's cousing in New Orleans, the one with the photographic reflexes.
If they got rid of Micah, Monica has no hope of coming back.


I guess we'll just have to wait until Heroes: Ultimate.

Yiktin Voxbane
20th November 08, 01:23 AM
Seems like we have an opening coming up next week to clean house by shooting alot of these idiots while they don't have powers.

Although wtf does an eclipse have to do with their powers?

Thusly their common secret is revealed ........ They're all Solar Powered .