View Full Version : Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us back in 1961

3rd June 04, 11:32 AM
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

Here's the guys who got us into Iraq.

The Pentagon's Defense Policy Board

According to the Center for Public Integrity, of the 30 members of the Defense Policy Board, the government-appointed group that advises the Pentagon, at least nine have ties to companies that have won more than $76 billion in defense contracts in 2001 and 2002. Four members are registered lobbyists, one of whom represents two of the three largest defense contractors.
The companies with ties to Defense Policy Board members include prominent firms like Boeing, TRW, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin and Booz Allen Hamilton and smaller players like Symantec Corp., Technology Strategies and Alliance Corp., and Polycom Inc.

According to its charter, the board was set up in 1985 to provide the Secretary of Defense “with independent, informed advice and opinion concerning major matters of defense policy.” The members are selected by and report to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy—currently Douglas Feith, a former Reagan administration official. All members are approved by the Secretary of Defense. The board’s quarterly meetings—normally held over a two-day period—are classified, and each session’s proceedings are summarized for the Defense Secretary. The board does not write reports or vote on issues. Feith, according to the charter, can call additional meetings if required. Notices of the meetings are filed at least 15 days before they are held in the Federal Register.

The board, whose list of members reads like a who’s who of former high-level government and military officials, focuses on long-term policy issues such as the strategic implications of defense policies and tactical considerations, including what types of weapons the military should develop.

Retired Adm. David Jeremiah, a former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who served over 38 years in the Navy, is a director or advisor of at least five corporations that received more than $10 billion in Pentagon contracts in 2002. Jeremiah also sat on the board of Getronics Government Solutions, a company that was acquired by DigitalNet in December 2002 and is now known as DigitalNet Government Solutions. According to a news report by Bloomberg, Richard Perle is a director of DigitalNet Holdings Inc., which has filed for a $109 million stock sale.

Retired Air Force Gen. Ronald Fogleman sits on the board of directors of companies that received more than $900 million in contracts in 2002. The companies, which all have longstanding business relationships with the Air Force and other Defense Department branches, include Rolls-Royce North America, North American Airlines, AAR Corporation and the Mitre Corp. In addition to being chief of staff for the Air Force, Fogleman has served as a military advisor to the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Council and the President. He also served as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Transportation Command, commander of Air Mobility Command, the 7th Air Force and the Air Component Command of the U.S./ROK Combined Forces Command.

Retired Gen. Jack Sheehan joined Bechtel in 1998 after 35 years in the U.S. Marine Corp. Bechtel, one of the world's largest engineering-construction firms, is among the companies bidding for contracts to rebuild Iraq. The company had defense contracts worth close to $650 million in 2001 and more than $1 billion in 2002. Sheehan is currently a senior vice president and partner and responsible for the execution and strategy for the region that includes Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Southwest Asia. The four-star general served as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic and Commander in Chief U.S. Atlantic Command before his retirement in 1997. After his leaving active duty, he served as Special Advisor for Central Asia for two secretaries of Defense.

Former CIA director James Woolsey is a principal in the Paladin Capital Group, a venture-capital firm that like Perle’s Trireme Partners is soliciting investment for homeland security firms. Woolsey joined consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton as vice president in July 2002. The company had contracts worth more than $680 million in 2002. Woolsey told the Wall Street Journal that he does no lobbying and that none of the companies he has ties to have been discussed during a Defense Policy Board meeting. Previously, Woolsey worked for law firm Shea & Gardner. He has held high-level positions in two Republican and two Democratic administrations.

William Owens, another former high-level military officer, sits on boards of five companies that received more than $60 million in defense contracts last year. Previously, he was president, chief operating officer and vice chair of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), among the ten largest defense contractors. One of the companies, Symantec Corp., increased its contracts from $95,000 in 2001 to more than $1 million in 2002. Owens, who served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is widely recognized for bringing commercial high technology into the U.S. Department of Defense. He was the architect of the Revolution in Military Affairs (RMA), an advanced systems technology approach to military operations that represents a significant change in the system of requirements, budgets and technology for the U.S. military since World War II. Owens serves on the boards of directors for several technology companies, including Nortel Networks, ViaSat and Polycom.

Harold Brown, a former Secretary of Defense under President Jimmy Carter, and James Schlesinger, who has served as CIA director, defense secretary and energy secretary in the Carter and Nixon administrations, are two others that have ties to defense contractors. Brown, a partner of Warburg Pincus LLC, is a board member of Philip Morris Companies and a trustee of the Rand Corporation, which respectively had contracts worth $146 million and $83 million in 2002. Schlesinger, a senior adviser at Lehman Brothers, chairs the board of trustees of the Mitre Corp., a not-for-profit that provides research and development support for the government. Mitre had defense contracts worth $440 million in 2001 and $474 million in 2002.

Chris Williams is one of four registered lobbyists to serve on the board, and the only one to lobby for defense companies. Williams, who served as a special assistant for policy matters to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld after having been in a similar capacity for Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), joined Johnston & Associates after leaving the Pentagon. Although the firm had represented Lockheed Martin prior to Williams’ arrival, the firm picked up two large defense contractors as clients once Williams was on board: Boeing, TRW and Northrop Grumman, for which the firm earned a total of more than $220,000. The firm lobbied exclusively on defense appropriations and related authorization bills for its new clients. Johnston & Associates is more often employed by energy companies; its founder, J. Bennett Johnston, is a former Democratic senator from Louisiana who chaired the Energy Committee.

3rd June 04, 11:39 AM
Now, is ANYONE surprised by this?

3rd June 04, 11:46 AM
really, who else shoud be advising the pentagon?

3rd June 04, 12:09 PM
I think he would rather have had the likes of Peter, Paul and Mary be advising on details of great complexity such as this. But hey smoke enough of the right stuff and who cares what happens! My daughters tell me that Hawaiian shit is pretty good.:D

3rd June 04, 12:14 PM
Why does the Pentagon NEED advising?

3rd June 04, 12:16 PM
Uh. People not striving for personal financial gain and power?

Lady Vic
3rd June 04, 12:31 PM
Hah! I work on contracts with half of those companies.

Defense contracting has been around since there were armies. Much of the time they're former military themselves.

Take, for example, an Aircraft Carrier. The military is not going to want to devote a huge number of sailors to the engineering and construction of something that huge.

They also do most of the R&D work and advise the military on the latest systems capabilities.

Ah well, I'm just a lowly analyst.

3rd June 04, 07:58 PM
Good way to totally avoid the issue, Lady Vic.

3rd June 04, 11:48 PM
What, people going to war for personal/political/financial gain, preposterous.

4th June 04, 02:48 AM
"is ANYONE surprised by this?"

Not really.

Lady Vic
4th June 04, 06:09 AM
patformlogan, nothing I say will make a difference to a neo-marxist like yourself.

You've already made up your mind. I'm pretty sure nothing someone says on here will change it.

4th June 04, 06:14 AM
patformlogan, stop thinking for yourself you asshole, who the hell do you think you are. support your country no matter what the cost, without using your own brain.

4th June 04, 08:06 AM
"neo-Marxist"? Phooey.

4th June 04, 09:33 AM
Hey, I'm a landlord, with a lousy cash flow. So not only am I a capatalist, I'm a crummy capatalist.

So two things are clear.

1 Most people think this in normal (and implied is not worth dealing with).
2 Some people (LV?) think that it is ok to do insider trading and back room deals.

Too bad it's WAR we are talking about, not making potato chips.

Lady Vic
4th June 04, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by patfromlogan
Hey, I'm a landlord, with a lousy cash flow. So not only am I a capatalist, I'm a crummy capatalist. I have to admit, I thought I'd get a less cordial reaction than that.

Darn. Guess I'll pick fights with someone else. :(

4th June 04, 09:49 AM
isnt neo marxist just a polite way of saying t3h r3dn3$$

much love
4th June 04, 02:47 PM
And yet another strand in the web of which mystery babylon is comprised.

4th June 04, 03:10 PM
Much Love:

I'd like to be you for a day.

It would be fascinating.

4th June 04, 07:18 PM
nah, Garbanzo, we swore off ganga years ago...

Hey, I bet that's why you want to be him for a day!