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CaptShady
15th March 04, 02:28 PM
ACU Challenges John Kerry to Prove His Whopper Is Not a Lie

The candidate's claim that he met with foreign leaders looks like boldfaced lie, says ACU's Lessner

Alexandria, VA John Kerry's claim that he met with foreign leaders who urged him to defeat President George W. Bush looks like an outright lie, said Richard Lessner, executive director of the American Conservative Union in a statement issued today.

"Senator Kerry has had two weeks to verify his claim that he met with foreign leaders," Lessner said. "He has failed to do so. He has been unable to substantiate his outrageous assertion or offer any proof that this is anything more than a total fabrication.

"Exhaustive investigations by various news organizations have pretty much proved not only that John Kerry has not met with any foreign leaders, but he has not even had the opportunity for such meetings.

"This looks like a boldfaced lie, a whopper, a total fabrication. It's shocking that a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee would publicly utter such a reckless, irresponsible statement unless he were prepared to substantiate its truthfulness.

"As Secretary of State Colin Powell noted yesterday, it is easy to make wild, baseless allegations. But Sen. Kerry should back up his allegations with proof. If he cannot, then he should be branded a liar."

Sen. Kerry now appears to be backing down from his statement, claiming only that he has "heard" from these mysterious unnamed foreign leaders. But that is not what he said originally, Lessner noted. Kerry's exact words were: "I 've met with foreign leaders who cannot go out and say this publicly. But, boy, they look at you and say, 'You've got to win this. You've got to beat this guy. We need a new policy.'"

"Ignore for a moment the eye-popping assertion that Americans should vote for Sen. Kerry to please foreign leaders," Lessner said. "John Kerry stated plainly that he had met, in person, with foreign leaders. If he did not, then his statement was an outright lie. This episode raises serious doubts about Senator Kerry's character and credibility."

RockTiger
15th March 04, 02:38 PM
So where did you get that articule from?

kismasher
15th March 04, 02:39 PM
edit: rock tiger beat me to it.

captain i am forced to question your crediblity in light of the fact that i am unable to verify the source of your posts. not only do i think you made this up but i think that your character is questionable to the extent that anything you say is, in the least, deceitful and motivated by the prospect of selfish gain at someone else's expense.

now i say to you good-day,

i said good-day.

CaptShady
15th March 04, 02:42 PM
What, you think I made it up? I get it from neoconservative web pages all over the net. Just the same as the propaganda being spread about Bush is. It's one sided articles written to convince voters that the other side is evil.

kismasher
15th March 04, 02:44 PM
link please...

CaptShady
15th March 04, 02:54 PM
You pussy son of bitches! Go do your own fact finding? Where the fuck are your posts demanding proof from your bleeding heart libleral, socialist, dependency on the government creating bitches?!?!?!

Incidentally, http://www.conservative.org/pressroom/040315.asp and go fuck yourselves. YOu fuckers don't like facts pointed out against your boy do ya!??!

INCIDENTALLY, kiss-my-ass-licker, here (http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=YrM58up_0TplRVztUFlMyGws2mo-&csz=San+Antonio%2C+TX&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=) I am, bitch! 8 - 5 M - F

kismasher
15th March 04, 03:07 PM
oh my, thanks that made my day.

CaptShady
15th March 04, 03:09 PM
Bring it!

kismasher
15th March 04, 03:10 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=4&u=/ap/20040315/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_foreign_leaders

here's a similar article:

White House to Kerry: Prove Assertion
22 minutes ago

By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The White House, seeking to raise credibility questions about Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites), suggested Monday that the presumptive nominee had lied when he said some foreign leaders privately back his candidacy.





Latest headlines:
White House to Kerry: Prove Assertion
AP - 22 minutes ago


Kerry should identify the leaders who purportedly hope he beats President Bush (news - web sites) in November, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "Either he is straightforward and states who they are, or the only conclusion one can draw is that he is making it up to attack the president," the spokesman said.


McClellan put a sharper point on a response offered a day earlier by Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites), who also had called on Kerry to name his foreign supporters, but had stopped short of accusing Kerry of manufacturing the claim.


Questioned about the White House criticism, Kerry told reporters, "They're trying to change the subject from jobs, health care, the environment and social security. They don't have a campaign so they're trying to divert it."


The Kerry campaign also responded with a top-10 list of Bush assertions that it said "proved false." They ranged from Bush's claim in his 2003 State of the Union address that Iraq (news - web sites) had obtained nuclear material from Niger, to the administration's prediction that last year's tax cuts would create 1 million jobs.


Kerry said at a fund-raiser last week in Florida that he's heard from some world leaders who quietly back his candidacy and who hope he defeats Bush in November.


Three times, McClellan repeated the charge that Kerry was "making it up." And he sought to turn Kerry's assertion to the White House's advantage by using it to raise questions about Kerry's credibility.


McClellan took issue with Kerry's suggestions that the Bush administration held up for political purposes announcement of an agreement with Libya to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction; and that the administration had rebuffed offers from Russia and France to avert the Iraq war.


"This is not the first time he has refused to back up his assertions," McClellan said.


McClellan's remarks came a day after Spanish voters ousted the conservative party that had strongly backed Bush on the Iraq war.


Asked whether the Spanish election results gave credence to Kerry's claim that some foreign leaders want to see Bush booted from the White House, McClellan chuckled.


"I think that if Senator Kerry is going to say he has support from foreign leaders then he needs to be straightforward with the American people and say who it is that he has spoken with and who it is that supports him," McClellan said.


McClellan's pointed reaction illustrated his changing role at the White House. For months, the press secretary has deflected almost all political questions to Bush's re-election campaign, part of an effort to portray the White House as above the campaign fray. But administration officials say McClellan is becoming a more forceful voice in the exchanges with the Kerry camp.


The shift did not go unnoticed at Kerry campaign headquarters.


"If the president wants his White House press secretary to be the press secretary for the re-election campaign, he ought to get him off the taxpayers' payroll and stop using the White House for political purposes," Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said. "This is part of a pattern of the failure of this White House to distinguish between politics and governing."



--there see how easy that was

Deadpan Scientist
15th March 04, 04:21 PM
Everyone, please don't just post articles. This is not google news. Write your own thoughts.

Also, capt, please report to the texas throwdown thread.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8991&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

CaptShady
15th March 04, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by brandeissansoo
Also, capt, please report to the texas throwdown thread.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8991&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

You gonna be there?

The Wastrel
15th March 04, 05:19 PM
Yes, allegations should be backed up with facts.

(Owned, by the way.)

Balloonknot
16th March 04, 12:31 PM
right on Kerry!! Go Kerry!

PeedeeShaolin
16th March 04, 12:39 PM
You all know that he's probably telling the truth! I'm sure most of the worlds leaders would like to see Bush out of the Whitehouse. The U.S. is one big corporation and the CEO is fuking around and not taking advice and bumbling around. They want to see him gone as much as anyone so they can get back to business as usual.

If you read CNN today you'll see that the Republicans are VERY angry at this. I wonder if whoever told Kerry that will actually come forward if Kerry spills the beans. I'm sure he wouldnt unless the guy told him it was ok.

But this administration is LUNATIC to try and start a shiitslinging contest with someone. They have a HUGE pile of shiit to hide. Whats worse is that the huge pile of shiit is right out in the open and nobody really says anything about it. I think this administartion would have a hard time in a flamewar against Hitler, let alone a half crooked senator like Kerry.

punchingdummy
16th March 04, 12:45 PM
One mans shit is another mans fertilizer.